It’s extremely underrated. I know way too many people who never even gave it a chance and gave up after season 1. It’s a shame. BCS is S tier show.
Stanley Livingston
2025-06-14 18:45:45 +0000 UTC
Nacho’s story is my favorite in the show. Everyone says how his story parallels with Mike and his son but i think his character also closely resembles Jesse. Both in the dangerous middle ground between crime and morality and the desire to escape as the show goes on. Both manipulated by ruthless ‘mentors’
I still consider this show far too underrated.
Sammy K
2024-12-06 01:36:39 +0000 UTC
when jimmy walks into chuck’s house for the last time, chuck says “i told you i would get better. you just never believed me.”
obv he’s wrong; he is far from being better. but the funny thing is, he’s also projecting.
*jimmy* always told *chuck* that *HE* would get better. and chuck never believed jimmy. chuck never had any faith in his brother.
jimmy always believed in chuck, even when chuck utterly betrayed him. even when chuck showed the most obvious signs of mental collapse, jimmy believed his brother would get better.
chuck tried to improve for like…. a few episodes? but jimmy really did try to get better! jimmy worked hard for years to be as good as chuck wanted him to be.
obviously jimmy is no saint. many of his sins are reactive. and jimmy let his bad habits resurface every time chuck put him in a corner. but damnit, at least jimmy was trying!
Skialar M
2024-12-06 01:25:58 +0000 UTC
absolutely!
neez duts
2024-12-04 16:45:58 +0000 UTC
the boring answer is the actor isn't Mexican or even latinx and can't speak spanish haha. i just write it off as like disrespecting the Chilean Gus / mental degredation
Kara
2024-12-04 14:08:00 +0000 UTC
Rhea Seehorn doesn't get enough love. These small, emotional moments, she's always so good at them. Because Kim mostly acts very tough and strong and confident because that's what you have to do as a woman in a male-dominated profession. Seehorn even drops her whole register quite a bit for Kim, she doesn't normally have such a low voice.
But when she just expresses these bits of vulnerability, she always manages to carry so much emotion with such little effort. Like that very first scene, when Jimmy visits her in the hospital and she just seems so shaken.
Or when they have breakfast and she reflects on why that accident happened. The way she expresses her guilt and even shock at herself that she let this happen, there's just so much emotion there in her voice and expression.
That scene is also so great for once again juxtaposing Kim and Jimmy's characters; Kim always takes responsibility. She says "I'm an adult and I made a decision", and therefore she feels guilt about the accident. She arguably often feels too much responsibility. Whereas Jimmy is always happy to blame everything on other people and only care about himself. "I could have killed someone" "Yeah, yourself". Oh, Jimmy, that's not the point. I think it's also one area where Jimmy really doesn't get Kim, emotionally. He doesn't see the usefulness in feeling guilt and responsibility, so he actively tries to not feel those things, and also tries to convince her why she shouldn't ever feel bad about any of the things she does. But Kim doesn't really want that.
Christophe
2024-12-04 08:54:39 +0000 UTC
I love that final scene with Hector and Mark Margolis really gave it his all but I always can't help but think that it's kind of weird that this whole scene is happening in English xD like why?
Christophe
2024-12-04 08:39:31 +0000 UTC
As much as I dislike Chuck his whole breakdown haunts me. Stuff like that affects me deeply because it's something I'm afraid of happening to me. Just spiralling downwards with no control.
Adam Vialpando
2024-12-04 06:37:00 +0000 UTC
I don't know if I can say that Chuck cared deeply about him because if he did, he wouldn't have been so callous towards him for so long. I think the more accurate truth is that he didn't actually feel what he said last to Jimmy because if that were true he wouldn't have spiraled after saying it. He was feigning indifference because he wanted to hurt Jimmy as much as possible and knew that those words would do that.
Zane Platt
2024-12-04 06:31:08 +0000 UTC
He is a perfect example of Mike's story about there being 'bad' priests and 'good' criminals. Chuck saw himself as a good upstanding person but he actually wasn't. He was cruel, vindictive, petty, egotistical, and so on.
When Jimmy came to him in this episode and admitted to his wrongdoings, Chuck was unable to do the same because being 'morally superior' was all he had left. He based so much of his self-worth on being 'better' than his brother instead of being a good brother.
Zane Platt
2024-12-04 06:27:13 +0000 UTC
Endangering his firm, yeah that was spite. But most of the other stuff, you're wrong about. Chuck doesn't exist just to hate on Jimmy at every turn just because. He has good reason to resent him. He does these things because in his eyes, Jimmy is unworthy. Unworthy of touching something as precious as the law, unworthy to have all these people love him when he's the criminal who does bad things, and Chuck is the one who did everything right. Of course you're gonna resent the sibling who seems to have everything when you should have those things because you aren't a rule breaker. Chuck has good reasons for not trusting Jimmy can be anything but. Yeah, Chuck shares blame too, but what did Jimmy do everytime things got tough? Go the Slipping Jimmy route. He hurt Chuck every chance he had because "Chuck hurt him first". Again, very understandable, but not justified. We've seen where endless cycles of revenge go. Look at Hector and Gus. Revenge literally leads Gus to his own death. The one thing he could never let go of, blinded him and got him killed. I agree that Chuck is mostly wrong about Jimmy, but he is a little right at the same time, just in a backwards kind of way.
Lorenzo Baxter
2024-12-04 05:27:13 +0000 UTC
SPOILER
In the end, he is wrong about Jimmy. I think that the reality was that Chuck wanted Jimmy to be below him but above a criminal. He wanted him to have a very certain amount of success. It is also a bit odd that you were shocked by Maple assuming spite out of Chuck when he is the definition of the word. He literally chose not to tell his brother his mothers last words... He did that out of spite and jealousy. He chose to turn down Jimmy at HHM because of spite. He chose to endanger his firm out of spite. Even before he was mentally unwell, he was doing a lot of shitty things out of spite and his own pettiness.
Zane Platt
2024-12-04 05:07:10 +0000 UTC
maple is sooo young, first Kevin Costner, now Blockbuster! :)
Chris Bruneau
2024-12-04 04:43:07 +0000 UTC
Nacho and his dad kinda parallels Mike and his son. Straight-arrow guys being dragged into the dirt against their will.
Joe Blankenship
2024-12-04 03:01:12 +0000 UTC
Yes, and I also think the one thing that binds all their flaws together is the illusion of control. They don’t properly perceive the danger they’ve invited on themselves because they imagine themselves to be in complete control of the situation. It just seems so much more egregious with Gus because, instead of leaving a Walt Whitman book lying around, he leaves a psychotic ex-drug lord who wants him dead lying around.
It’s actually Gus’ supreme attention to detail that helps undo him. He is so ridiculously competent (and knows it) that he thinks he can get away with leaving his mortal enemy kicking, even while another of his adversaries is trying to kill him. Even Walt didn’t imagine himself to be *this* good, and that probably contributes to why he won.
It’s a nice twist of irony that Gus’ uber competence is the thing that causes him to make the least wise move any of these players make. We often talk about Walt winning despite all his mistakes, but he never makes as big a mistake as Gus does. Watch any sports game and you know full well that a huge mistake by one team can completely nullify a dozen smaller mistakes by the other team. Leaving alive someone who wants you dead was one of the first mistakes Walt *almost* made when he knew nothing about the drug world, but Gus makes that amateur mistake every single day from this episode til his death.
Eric Wall
2024-12-04 02:40:48 +0000 UTC
That Blockbuster joke Maple, started to hurt my soul. I'm not ready to be old lol
ZitherManifesto
2024-12-04 02:23:33 +0000 UTC
I know the main points are Gus, Chuck, and Jimmy, but I just love the character of Kim. Rhea Seahorn does an amazing job acting the scene where she starts to fall back in line with her old ways and then catches herself.
Joshua Luzania
2024-12-04 01:43:46 +0000 UTC
Gus' need for revenge is his fatal flaw in the same way that Walter's was needing to fufill the provider role all on his own. They both exploited that aspect of each other. Gus manipulated Walter with his "a man provides" speech to get him on board as his cook, and Walter manipulated Gus' unrelenting need to control Hector's fate to lure him to his death.
Most of the main characters in these shows have a fatal flaw like that, even Jimmy and Kim. It's often the thing their struggles and circumstance revolve around and the show will keep coming back to it through a cold open or a parallel in a conversation, like the fruit tree and coati story Gus tells later. That's basically his whole motivation rolled up into a nice little childhood anecdote.
John Cedar
2024-12-04 01:20:39 +0000 UTC
this definitely happened, i laughed when they did it. much like "sweet summer child"
Kara
2024-12-03 23:18:59 +0000 UTC
Chuck arguably built the sort of "empire" Walt talked about too, he grew HHM from "6 employees" to one of the largest firms in the state.
Kara
2024-12-03 23:17:46 +0000 UTC
Can't fault Gus, he needed to keep Hector alive long enough to see gay marriage legalized.
Kara
2024-12-03 23:16:32 +0000 UTC
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Gus saving Hector’s life is by far one of the stupidest things any of the main characters of this universe does. Character-wise, it makes all the sense in the world why *he* would do *that*. But logic-wise, you have to dig deep to find examples of worse decision making in this universe. Whenever I see it, I experience a bit of schadenfreude remembering how Walt is the one who gets to exploit it.
Maybe Walt didn’t deserve to win, but Gus absolutely deserved to lose; and this is the episode where he starts earning that fate. You mine as well picture him swirling a glass of red wine and saying, “Hector, I hate to tell you your business but, dying? Not so much. Maybe your real death… is still out there.”
Eric Wall
2024-12-03 22:47:48 +0000 UTC
Chuck suffers from the same disease as Walter White, severe case of pride, except instead of running a drug empire, Chuck pushes everyone who cares about him away, and even if he feels like he made a mistake that same pride will never allow him to go back on his words or admitt a mistake
Elesh
2024-12-03 22:44:37 +0000 UTC
Chuck also has literally no one looking out for him. No one is gonna just show up at the door like they used to. And of course he has too much pride to eat any of the words he’d spoken to Howard or Jimmy in order to reach out for help.
It’s one of the main commonalities I see between Chuck and Walt. They’d both sooner destroy themselves and everything around them than admit any of their problems are their own fault.
Eric Wall
2024-12-03 22:34:52 +0000 UTC
The sad thing about Chuck is his last words to Jimmy were the harshest thing he could've said, but also they were not true at all. It's no accident that the day after he completely pushes away Jimmy and cuts him off, is the day his mental stability takes a divebomb, ruining his house, and then sitting fire to it. Chuck loves Jimmy, but he's been so hurt by him that he's done with him. He doesn't believe he can change and that makes Jimmy's turn to Saul even more tragic. Chuck isn't inherently right about Jimmy. That he can never change and can never be more than just Slippin' Jimmy. But, that is exactly where Jimmy ends up. Chucks belief about Jimmy is a self fulfilling prophecy. Because Jimmy did embrace it, and became the worst version of himself, but its not because that's who he always was. Also it was a bit shocking that Maple thought for a moment Chuck did that out of spite, which tells me Chuck has been so demonized in your perspective but come on, he's literally not that petty. He's a mentally unwell person who is hurting. And when you're hurt, you push people away. I feel like that's a formula as old as time.
I'll drive this home all day, if Chuck and Jimmy went to a joint family therapist, they could've worked out so many issues and all of this wouldn't have happened 😭
Lorenzo Baxter
2024-12-03 22:07:59 +0000 UTC
how many times have people wanted to tell their boss those VERY words! :)
Chris Bruneau
2024-12-03 22:02:35 +0000 UTC
Chuck is a special kind of dick:
Chuck on a first date; "I'd like to be totally honest with you,-- I think you are fat, ugly, and stupid.....Hey, why are you leaving???"
Chris Bruneau
2024-12-03 21:58:46 +0000 UTC
despite what he tells jimmy, chuck deeply cared for him. so much so that as soon as he pushes him away, his spiral begins and this time he doesn’t have the thought of his brothers worry holding him back from going over the line. i’d like to think that as he’s kicking the table, he recalls that memory of him reading to jimmy; two brothers basking in the warmth of that lantern.
bryan pineda
2024-12-03 21:47:55 +0000 UTC
Great reaction. I think of Hector's "DA BAWS CAN SOCKK MEE" roughly once a week. Gus giving CPR like "you aint getting out that easy bud". Nacho was roughly 30 seconds away from capping Hector then having the most awkward cartel meeting ever, this is why you always check your texts before a hit.
Brutal ending. At the time like many people I assumed Chuck died cuz his house was full of newspaper and insulation all on the floor, with no fire alarm. If he dies, his last words to Jimmy are the lie "You never really meant that much to me anyway". Feel good show!
Kara
2024-12-03 21:46:02 +0000 UTC
My guess is this "shame" call made it to them through cultural osmosis. Like they have heard that without knowing where it's from or even that it is from somewhere. But no further spoilers than that ^^'
Christophe
2024-12-03 20:59:31 +0000 UTC
If you think that shame was bad, you ain’t seen nothin yet. You’ll be shaming it up big time some point next year.