Supernatural - 10x16 "Paint It Black" Full Reaction
Added 2022-05-15 01:00:26 +0000 UTC
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The only one I can remember in later seasons was in a BL episode in S7 when he presented himself as a rich investment banker (?) but then his pickup turned up to be an Amazon and he fathered a child. Well, they may have used his gross penchant for lying to pick up girls as lessons learned, I guessed, though no point for that duo for this. But I supposed they just rejoined the show during S7, they might have not gotten the memo not to write Dean using his aliases for and to further his sexual encounters.
My point is, that Dean had been using lies in his sexual encounters with women before - it's canon.
rose mnor
2022-05-16 01:39:28 +0000 UTC
@Hasnaa
I put my reply here rather than below your reply to Helen as I don't want to mess up her opinion piece thread in her original post.
I ... really think some of us had forgotten how the writers wrote Dean as this womanizing dudebro that falsely presented himself in the name of investigating the supernatural, and at the same time using this method to pick up women. He had used women before, whether we want to consider this as “betrayal” to women, that’s a topic for another day.
If memory serves, in S1 Dean straight up lied to some women while presenting himself as an entertainment talent scout, or as some high-rank individual when picking up women in bars. Whether they had sexual congress later on, is beside the point I am trying to make here.
As the seasons went by, the writers stepped away from that kind of that gross characterization of Dean and we see him less and less misrepresent himself to pick up girls, and more on using his alias to talk to them and let his individual charming self see whether they can go forward.
rose mnor
2022-05-16 01:38:45 +0000 UTC
Patreon is being very glitchy. Please accept this comment as a "like," and I'll hope it sticks.
ETA: By the way, since no one's said it yet, I do happen to agree with you about the confessional scene. I was nonplussed to learn from the comments that scene had been interpreted with such specificity, and I currently don't think the evidence is really there and/or strong enough to draw such a conclusion. But, like you, if it helps people find joy, I'll support them in that. 🙂
Like others have said, please do keep posting. It's entirely probable people are agreeing and disagreeing with you – partially or completely – and just not saying anything in that particular moment.
SKK
2022-05-15 18:16:32 +0000 UTC
Reposting as I went into to fix something and Patreon deleted my comment. Thanks so much for those who took a minute to read and like the original.
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So, this is me trying to explain my thoughts on the Dean's confession because I haven’t really thought about it that hard before, since I’ve rarely revisited this episode. I’m not expecting anyone to read or really interact as people seem pretty set in their own interpretations, which is fine. I just don’t really interact on many fan sites, so I’ll express my thoughts here.
While I don’t ship, because nearly everyone from various show runners and EPs, to the lead actors have said Supernatural is not about romance, I can definitely see how the confession can lend itself to a romantic interpretation, whether about Cas, someone else or an unknown potential future someone. This post is not about crapping on that because if it brings someone joy to interpret it that way, then great.
Ultimately though, I think this confession is more general. Dean muses about experiencing “things, feelings, people," differently or for the the first time, but that doesn’t necessarily mean "differently" or "for the first time" applies to all three. I’m not sure I expressed that clearly… Anyway, I don’t think Dean has any one person or thing in mind in this scene (not Sam, Cas, or anyone/thing else specifically). Unlike other times when he’s known he was going to die, he is now faced with the possibility of becoming a demon again, too. Not only is there the possibly of dying (which he’s done so so many times) but of living the rest of his life as not himself, a twisted version of himself. I think this has left him feeling regret for all the times he didn’t let himself be fully honest or vulnerable with his loved ones, when he has tried to play it cool instead of being earnest, for holding onto betrayals or grudges and letting them keep him from trusting others fully, for getting back into hunting when he could have fully tried to experience a regular life and not just as a promise he had to fulfill to his brother. I think when he is staring down the barrel of a gun of not simple death, but a kind of death to his soul (the real him), he is longing for all of the human experiences he thinks he will now not be able to have. I guess to put it in a much more concise way, I think this confession was Dean mourning the collective everything he now won’t get to experience, rather than it being about any one specific thing or person.