Should we follow up with Legend of Korra when we're done with ATLA?
Added 2023-08-08 20:20:41 +0000 UTC
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Powerful women. Some find that very scary.
aarswft
2023-09-15 18:36:50 +0000 UTC
I never said I stopped watching during season 1, and I'm fairly sure the key events I and people responding to me have been talking about took place across season 2 and some portion of season 3. Truth is I have no idea where I stopped watching because I was watching it on Amazon Prime, and LoK was apparently removed from Prime 7 years ago.
You have to allow people to give a shit about your characters if you want them to care about their development. You can't present them with an obnoxious asshole, doing incredibly annoying things for at least two seasons (as far as I'm aware) and then get annoyed when people form the opinion based on their own subjective experience that they either don't like or don't care about these characters.
As I said, I only remember the names of two characters from this show, Korra and Tenzin, That in and of itself speaks volumes, beyond any argument you can make regarding motivations and the merits of how they're written... I don't remember any of these people, they gave me nothing I cared to remember. Even when I think of Korra, my mind conjures a highlight reel of her being an obnoxious person and doing stupid shit for the wrong reasons.
Aang was never an annoying show off. The only time I can think of him showing off was the episode with the Unagi, and he learned that lesson in that episode.
Aang, Soka, Katara, Toph all had their flaws, they all had their moments, but they were all fundamentally likeable characters. Even Zuko, who is probably the most comparable to Korra in terms of personality, he was always at least compelling and the more you learned about him the more sympathetic he became.
Zuko's brashness, his stubbornness, his selfish conception that he has a destiny that fate has chosen him for, that makes him mistreat and disappoint those closest to him. These are all traits Korra has, but these traits that allow you to almost instantly recognise Zuko as an antagonist, are what make Korra very hard to swallow as a protagonist. Those traits, however; become understandable with Zuko when you learn more about him and why he's like that, he becomes sympathetic, and you care about him and want him to grow, you want him to develop as a character.
Korra has all of Zuko's worst traits, but you're given absolutely nothing to excuse them. The end result being that when she inevitably fucks up and gets whooped, you're almost sitting there thinking "Awesome, hold that L you moron!" and you can say...
"Oh trust me! It gets good if you give it another 12 hours of your time she totally changes her entire character!"
Which is fine, but it doesn't make the first 12 hours you have to suffer her obnoxious unlikeable ass any easier to deal with, does it?
Woz Lee
2023-08-22 23:30:43 +0000 UTC
You can’t talk about the end result because you stopped watching during season 1. Korra is supposed to start out egotistic. It’s called character development. Did you want a perfect character because there isn’t one. Aang is an annoying show off the entire first two seasons. You only look on him fondly because you watched the whole show and actually saw his growth. You have no right to have an opinion if you didn’t watch the show.
HQB
2023-08-20 22:05:37 +0000 UTC
What could you possibly be referring to?
HQB
2023-08-20 22:00:56 +0000 UTC
Dont watch it. Season 1 is fine but 2 ruins everything in a way that its not avatar anymore.
August Svarén
2023-08-20 06:22:03 +0000 UTC
I remember being really disappointed with Korra back when it was airing. Like, downright hated the show lmao. I feel like I could have written this back then as I felt almost the exact the same way. That said, I really think you should give the show a second chance anyway. Especially if you gave up on the show back in 2013 when your expectations were at their highest. A lot of your issue with the show is grieving the loss of what you feel made ATLA special and that's fine, I went through it too. ATLA is still top dog for me, always will be.
But there are really great narrative messages you can take way from Korra if you do embrace the show as its own thing, if stop mourning the loss of what you liked about ATLA and decide youll look at the silver lining of what Korra does do well. Particularly in the seasons you missed. Theres plenty of heart-warming feel-good moments, things to laugh at, complex villains and one characters journey ends up being one of the best depictions of PTSD in family friendly media, something that was very lacking in ATLA despite all the trauma the characters in that series faced.
ATLA was a show that sort of makes someone a better person and teaches young people important lessons. This is what entertainment and media should strive to do. Korra at the end of the day, despite its hiccups, did the same, even if it came a little late and even if it didn't quite live up to its predecessor.
Besides, with Avatar Studios being a thing now, with movies and a new series being in the makes, if you have any interest in the franchise still, it would be good to even begrudgingly finish Korra before checking out what's coming next. But if you're totally done with all things Avatar, so be it.
Cyan
2023-08-15 08:49:28 +0000 UTC
Kora would have been so much better if they planned for 4 seasons from the beginning, but even if they did it , as well as any other animated show will never top Avatar
JAMES D'ALESSANDRO
2023-08-14 21:04:19 +0000 UTC
It wasn't just that thing I mentioned. They changed an awful lot, the show used to be rooted in core eastern philosophical concepts and traditions, the world was a primitive almost fantasy setting which gave it a unique feel.
In Korra all of that had a sledgehammer taken to it, the entire vibe of the show was different.
Regarding "that thing", I don't accept just writing off that terrible decision as a crutch, it wasn't a crutch in 3 seasons of ATLA. It was a wonderful aspect of the world that opened the possibilities for all kinds of narratives, and rooted the show in really cool eastern themes regarding balance, rebirth and renewal, which were also largely scrapped in Korra in favour of some weird steampunk aesthetic.
The four nations, each necessary and vital for balance according to Iroh, have now been made largely obsolete by a massive city, a republic, which is far more reminiscent of a 1920s art deco New York than the primitive yet fantastical locations we were familiar with.
It really felt like they just wanted people to judge Korra on its own merits and not feel compelled to constantly compare the show with its predecessor, so they set about changing as much as they could, referenced old characters as little as possible and severed as many ties as they could.
Even Korra herself felt like she was written to be the polar opposite of Aang.
To the point where when "that thing" happens, it feels almost disrespectful. I remember wondering "If you want to go that far away from Avatar why even make a sequel? Just make a different show!" then you look at how sparse the show runners filmographies were (and are, even more so now) and you realise that despite the success of ATLA nobody seems to be interested in them making anything other than Avatar related stories.
Which I can't help but wonder, did they really want to make an Avatar sequel? Did they want to tell a story set in that world, or did they change that world to make it more amenable to the stories they really wanted to tell?
Which may be completely unfounded, but the fact I was even having those thoughts whilst watching the show, is itself a problem.
Woz Lee
2023-08-14 08:46:09 +0000 UTC
Yes, but Give it time before jumping into it. Like Give it "time" time lol whatever that means lol
Pedro Pereira
2023-08-14 07:19:56 +0000 UTC
Lmao Zorro, you talk about 'major hostility' even though you've replied with your unwanted opinion to nearly every comment in favor of Korra. I wouldn't have even felt the need to leave this reply if it wasn't for your incessant bitching and moaning. You said your piece now stop throwing a tantrum about it. Korra won the poll, move on and stop being annoying
Cyan
2023-08-14 01:39:07 +0000 UTC
That controversial thing was necessary for future storytelling to keep it from becoming a crutch. If you missed S3 Korra then you should revisit it, it was good.
Roaring Mouse
2023-08-13 21:33:34 +0000 UTC
Yes. I want to see you watch it. I think you will enjoy it.
On the condition that you don't over compare it to ATLA. It's a completely different story in the same universe: naturally, not everyone will like it. I'd give Korra an 8/10.
The focus on Korra's and the cast's growth is very human, very relatable, and quite gritty sometimes. So much so that personally I believe that's a large reason why people get put off by the show: many 'mistakes' are made. Divisive decisions. People can get annoyed by it as an audience.
Daniel Duarte
2023-08-13 00:43:31 +0000 UTC
Definitely regretted it :/
Yue .Yuu
2023-08-12 20:32:25 +0000 UTC
https://youtu.be/s7P9qTdVnMY
Alvin Everett
2023-08-11 23:51:25 +0000 UTC
Then I agree with you because that *insert villain group name here* had a compelling view of the world that is on par with Killmonger from Black Panther. Makes you feel things when they were on screen.
Zorro
2023-08-11 23:31:27 +0000 UTC
Isn’t the sequel about Team Avatar? It wouldn’t really affect the viewing continuity
Zorro
2023-08-11 23:29:58 +0000 UTC
I just wanted Korra to grow as a character. I felt she was the weakest part compared to the side characters.
Zorro
2023-08-11 23:28:33 +0000 UTC
Idk about 99% but I can definitely feel some major hostility against ATLA supporters. Yeesh, they just don’t like Korra. Chill.
Zorro
2023-08-11 23:26:20 +0000 UTC
I said no.
The show is something like 55 episodes, that's 27 weeks at a rate of 2 per week, for a show I stopped watching and can only remember the names of 2 characters (Korra and Tenzin).
Why wouldn't I rather have reactions to Arcane, Invincible, Love Death and Robots or any one of a million other great shows?
Season 2 of Legend of Korra got like 60% on Rotten Tomatoes, that's a six-week investment into a season that even the most die hard fans will admit is difficult to sit through.
Woz Lee
2023-08-11 02:07:04 +0000 UTC
I would love to see them watch Attack on Titan, but I don't think it's their thing.
Woz Lee
2023-08-11 01:06:33 +0000 UTC
I never even finished watching Korra.
That show was weird, it felt familiar but awkwardly distant as well. Most people, myself included, were interested in the show to find out what happened to a lot of the characters that we know and love, but the show runners seemed to want to stay away from addressing the original cast except for a few references here and there.
The end result being you're not really getting what you came to the show for, and the show itself? In my opinion Aang's influence was sorely missed. Lots of the conflict in ATLA stems from Aang being a naive vegan monk trying to find the good in everyone and everything.
Most of the conflict in Korra stemmed from her just being an egotistical moron. Then there was something that happened, I don't want to drop spoilers, but something happened that made one of the coolest aspects of the Avatar no longer possible, and there were other implications of that decision that annoyed me so much I couldn't continue watching.
Woz Lee
2023-08-11 00:55:20 +0000 UTC
Korra is not nearly as bad as some of these comments make it out to be. 99% of reactors who react to Korra after ATLA really enjoy it. A lot of Korra haters have an ATLA nostalgia boner. Most of Korra's criticism comes from season 2 not being written well which is a justified criticism (certain episodes are still great that season) but seasons 1, 3 and 4 are all around well made, albeit different from ATLA. I know for a fact you guys will like the show. I can't tell you how many times Ive seen reactors get scared off from the show because of dumb comments calling Korra a bad show and when they finally watch it, they are very confused why the nostalgia boner people hate it with such burning passion. Different doesn't equal bad. Not as perfectly written as ATLA doesn't equal bad. It's a good show and every avatar fan should watch it.
Cyan
2023-08-10 22:49:45 +0000 UTC
OMG I beg you please
Pooofy
2023-08-10 12:48:36 +0000 UTC
That’s a pretty good point you got there. That’s one reason I prefer the OG show for sure. But it’s just the last season that really let me down. Same sort of dissatisfaction as GOT ending. Not as severe of course.
Zorro
2023-08-10 03:19:21 +0000 UTC
Season 3 was amazing. You got me there. Season 4 did leave a bad taste in my mouth. Probably because the S3 main villain is just one of my top 10 favorites.
Zorro
2023-08-10 03:17:21 +0000 UTC
Very wise, The disappointment is probably inevitable but back-to-back would definitely be very jarring.
Ventena
2023-08-10 00:25:17 +0000 UTC
I mean objectively it just isn't as good, granted it is still good but it took me a long time to actually watch it because for one I didn't like the slightly new visual (and probably financially too) cheaper animation style as well as the setting.
For two while the technological advancements make sense in terms of 100 years later but to me it lost a lot of that magic that came with the more primitive technology.
For example, I loved seeing how bending really drove the world with the north pole and earth kingdom walls/gates, the fire-bending zeppelins, and war balloons and one that really stuck with me was the earth-bending powered trains in Ba-Sing-Se the switch to electricity was honestly the hardest pill for me to swallow. I don't know if anyone else felt that way.
That being said it is still worth watching, just not so full of wonder as ATLA.
Ventena
2023-08-10 00:18:26 +0000 UTC
I think it is best to wait a while and let The Last Airbender marinate for a bit.
Going straight into Korra will feel disappointing and foreign, just because you are still so invested in the OG cast, and Korra is pretty different. Waiting a few months is probably the best call imo.
fatdabbyeet
2023-08-09 23:37:58 +0000 UTC
Don’t listen to the people saying it’s not as good, I mean it’s not however avatar is low-key the best show ever so it not being as good doesn’t mean it’s bad, you’ll still love it so it doesn’t matter plus it’s worth a watch for anyone who really enjoys ATLA
ATLA2001
2023-08-09 21:41:31 +0000 UTC
I just wanted Korra to finally become the badass she was sold as. Instead she just seemed to remain in that low point.
Zorro
2023-08-09 20:30:12 +0000 UTC
Korra just never steps up in my opinion the way other lead characters have. She goes through the learning curve but then stays down and seems like a hindrance at the end of the show. Every other side character seemed to supply a valuable lesson/contribution. She just gets bodied.
Zorro
2023-08-09 20:28:44 +0000 UTC
Nah. Xena is one of the most badass characters and ties with my favorite Spider-Man. Then of course followed by Buffy and Jessica Jones. I just think Korra never really redeems herself or actually steps up the way leaders should.
Zorro
2023-08-09 20:26:55 +0000 UTC
Yeah I think if you truly love the avatar series waiting a while is best as it's such a change. Either way I'm good with though x
T.wiley
2023-08-09 20:15:42 +0000 UTC
Arcane
main story is about the relationship between 2 sisters
Only 9 eps
TinCan Cosmanaut
2023-08-09 19:50:56 +0000 UTC
I've got to say I had to wait a while between Avatar and Korra to enjoy the latter. Watched the first episode, hated it, didn't go back for a few years then really loved it. I think it's a complicated switch and I was told by multiple different people to wait and go back to it :)
Natasha
2023-08-09 19:45:09 +0000 UTC
Korra has some really high highs, and just a couple of low lows. Please do it! I don't think anyone can really say they regret watching Korra, it's still a great show. It just doesn't compare as a whole to how amazing ATLA is. I mean, lightning in a bottle special. Can't repeat that twice lol.
Max
2023-08-09 16:14:37 +0000 UTC
Personally I dont think Korra is even close to the same level as Avatar TLA. Prefer a new animated show. Maybe Attack on Titan etc?
blitzman08
2023-08-09 14:46:12 +0000 UTC
SPOILERS You think ending in a murder suicide is underwhelming?
HQB
2023-08-09 13:45:51 +0000 UTC
So you just hate shows with female leads? That’s literally the only thing the two have in common 😂
HQB
2023-08-09 13:44:04 +0000 UTC
SPOILERS!!!! IDK, the end of season 3 with the single tear down Korea’s face gets me chocked up.
HQB
2023-08-09 13:42:15 +0000 UTC
All of thr facts! 💯
Theo Brown
2023-08-09 13:41:48 +0000 UTC
I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME! Season 3 of Korra is better than Season 3 of ATLA.
HQB
2023-08-09 13:40:34 +0000 UTC
Honestly agree with this one. I'd take two shows and two movies a week over three shows and one movie. More variety if someone isn't interested in one or two of the shows.
Jeff I.
2023-08-09 13:23:46 +0000 UTC
Well it’s more mature and nuanced with how it approaches the Avatar’s role in the world. In the original the protagonist were outlaws so they could literally lie, cheat and steal to get what they wanted. It was more interesting to see an Avatar that was bound by the laws of the land and had to work WITHIN a larger system instead of trying to destroy it. Toppling the world order is fun, but maintaining it is far more delicate and important. LoK is a more interesting story IMO.
Norrin Radd
2023-08-09 12:18:08 +0000 UTC
I've loved your reactions to ATLA and think you would really enjoy watching Kora as long as go in with an open mind. There are definitely things I don't like about Kora but overall I loved it and think there are some seasons/story lines that are really great.
Samantha Estrada
2023-08-09 08:13:27 +0000 UTC
I would like more films over another show.
Travis B
2023-08-09 06:09:24 +0000 UTC
YES! Just sit back and let Zhu Lee do the thing! If you like the lore and the world they created you will like it. If you go in expecting just a continuation of last Airbender you might be disappointed.
Zack
2023-08-09 05:09:24 +0000 UTC
This is all crazy acronym talk to me, so I'll catch up to y'all in the movie watches.
Dee Aitch
2023-08-09 04:37:11 +0000 UTC
I voted yes, but idk if really needs to be back-to-back right after the first series.
Jim Frykman
2023-08-09 03:59:46 +0000 UTC
The Legend Of Korra has 3 of the best villains in the entire franchise. While Aang is more of a Hero’s journey, Korra’s themes are a little more adult-ish
Alvin Everett
2023-08-09 03:55:41 +0000 UTC
I think watching another show would be more worthwhile, I do not know if you have already seen Game of Thrones but I would greatly recommend it!
MrMoleHole
2023-08-09 03:10:10 +0000 UTC
Man, I completely disagree with both of you. Respect your opinions but I think you're looking at all wrong. But to each their I own I guess
Theo Brown
2023-08-09 02:40:43 +0000 UTC
korra isnt better
Jayshawn Robinson
2023-08-09 02:38:06 +0000 UTC
book 3 of korra is def a contender of best season in the entire franchise, me personally i have it 3rd
Jayshawn Robinson
2023-08-09 02:37:28 +0000 UTC
I'm kind of curious about the results of this myself. I only watched ATLA for the first time this past year, and I've seen one season of Korra. My feeling was it started kinda slow, hit its stride, with an underwhelming finale. I also felt like some of the supporting characters were kind of meh/underdeveloped.
But overall I'd say I liked it, and definitely plan to check out the other seasons at some point.
Patrick
2023-08-09 01:23:25 +0000 UTC
It’s more uneven, but also more ambitious. Certainly worth watching
Dwarfin
2023-08-09 01:16:32 +0000 UTC
this show carries the biggest “what if” of all, with how much they were given to do in such a time. i love it, even if i do catch myself saying “what if” a lot
TokyoLopez
2023-08-09 00:05:40 +0000 UTC
And it's a very good show despite all of the crap Nickelodeon put them through
Theo Brown
2023-08-08 23:26:42 +0000 UTC
🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯
Theo Brown
2023-08-08 23:25:24 +0000 UTC
I wish I could downvote the haters. The show has its ups and downs, but considering how badly Nickelodeon screwed with its production, there is NOTHING that renders it unwatchable. It's excellent in many ways and absolutely worth watching. Most people hate the show because 1. Korra is a girl. 2. It's not ATLA. 3. It retcons some lore (THAT even I'm not too jazzed with). 4. It's not ATLA. and 5. Korra loses a lot.
rrrebo
2023-08-08 23:01:00 +0000 UTC
I’m just saying. Korra gang fumbled the ball when Team Avatar literally started them 1 yard from a touchdown. Plus Red Lotus was my absolute favorite villain squad. ATLA can’t touch that aspect.
Zorro
2023-08-08 22:42:17 +0000 UTC
You should watch it. Imo season 1 is an 8.5/10, Season 2 is a 6.5/10, Season 3 is a 10/10, and Season 4 is 8/10. Season 3 is phenomenal and one of my favs and the aftermath of it reverberating into Season 4 is well executed.
You need the self awareness to catch yourself making unfair comparisons. If you compare anything to perfection, you're gonna be disappointed and resentful, like some of the folks in these comments. If you see this as a a brand new story in the same world, you'll have a better time. These are new characters with their own personalities and strengths and flaws. Their journeys are different. They're also teenagers, and teenagers are stubborn and obnoxious at times. I see a lot of reactors and commenters hold the characters to standards that they themselves could never reach in similar circumstances. The world the characters live in has changed and continues to change and become more complex compared to the aang gang.
hurryupmode
2023-08-08 22:03:56 +0000 UTC
Absolutely yes. Just be aware that Nickelodeon screwed over the creatives throughout the entire run of the show and you'll be golden. I love Legend of Korra and at times I think its better than ATLA.
Lynn Walker
2023-08-08 21:50:30 +0000 UTC
Meh, it's literally a seasonal rollercoaster. S1: Great! S2: Sucky! S3: Amazing! S4: Nah
It's worth it just for S3 alone, in my opinion. It's got some great storytelling, philosophies and character arcs.
Henkan
2023-08-08 21:41:47 +0000 UTC
Nope trolling. I meant what I said
Theo Brown
2023-08-08 21:25:53 +0000 UTC
This comment hits the nail right on the head. Please for the sake of all the goodness that ATLA brings, don’t watch LOK. They don’t deserve such punishment.
Zorro
2023-08-08 21:25:14 +0000 UTC
I can’t tell if this is a troll or not.
Zorro
2023-08-08 21:24:10 +0000 UTC
Absolutely not. Legend of Korra I rewatched recently and it was still in my opinion a show that felt spotty with a poor ending. Think of She Hulk. I know that personally I would never wish another person who loves ATLA to be put through LOK.
Zorro
2023-08-08 21:23:36 +0000 UTC
People who haven't seen these shows
Sky Alderson
2023-08-08 21:08:19 +0000 UTC
Hard no, it isn't a good show. If you decide to watch it I would at least leave a couple months in between the two shows. The direct comparisons are impossible and Korra doesn't hold a candle to original series. Not to mention the unwanted over explanation of the universe as a whole which honestly ruins the fun mystery of it all. People say it is more grown up but to that I disagree, it is just more edgy and seemingly only for the sake of being edgy.
Ronald Foster
2023-08-08 20:57:13 +0000 UTC
For real, who is saying no! lol
Theo Brown
2023-08-08 20:51:07 +0000 UTC
Saying Korra is better is like saying 2 is more than 1.
Omega Sirius
2023-08-08 20:30:25 +0000 UTC
Who is saying no to this?! It is an absolute yes vote for me! I love it just as much as the OG
2EUCE
2023-08-08 20:27:51 +0000 UTC
Korra is better. A lot less sentimental though, so no tears. You gotta watch it!
Norrin Radd
2023-08-08 20:25:18 +0000 UTC
Yes, but give it time to rest. It's hard to jump right in and not be disappointed. Season 1 is good. Season 2 ok with 2 stellar episodes. Season 3 is a high water mark for any show. Season 4 is mixed but better than 2
Roaring Mouse
2023-08-08 20:25:08 +0000 UTC
Yes. It's a very different show, and spectacular in its own right.
Daniel Murgueytio
2023-08-08 20:24:13 +0000 UTC
ABSOLUTELY !!!
shinji_86
2023-08-08 20:23:48 +0000 UTC
I am going to give this the biggest yes I can possibility give. In my opinion, Season 3 of Legend of Korra is the best singular season of the entire franchise. You will guys will thoroughly enjoy Legend of Korra. Watch it immediately after ATLA Is done, like right away lol
Theo Brown
2023-08-08 20:23:13 +0000 UTC
If you don’t, you’re going to be confused when Avatar Studios puts out their sequel series. It’s already in the works. If you want to watch that when it comes out, you have to watch Korra.