Ramble: Movies I expected to hate, which surprised me

This is such an old video, but I only just watched it, and in your discussion of Disney sequels that were better than expected, I feel that Lion King 1 and 1/2 needs to be mentioned, that movie was genuinely good to me.

Claire

Obviously I’m super late to this video, BUT on the topic of Rainbow Rocks- it is an absolute CRIME that you discontinued friendship is witchcraft before making a rainbow rocks episode 😭 you are so right that it’s the best thing to come from G4, and I feel like it would’ve lent itself to FIW so well, and I would’ve LOVED to see your characterization of the dazzlings!

Harris Ryder

Can’t wait for the mystery lodge video whenever that comes out. I remember as a kid I was there for the opening of it and being super excited for it but now I have absolute no memory of what it even is/was.

Robert Romero Jr

Rainbow Rocks is so goood. i love it so much 😭

Isaac Banta

Not only did I like Sinister 2, but I thought the first Sinister wasn't that great. Definitely didn't live up to the hype. I thought it was boring and didn't remember a thing about it, which was why when I watched Sinister 2 I had no idea how the movies/ghost children related, which made it honestly pretty compelling. It's still not fantastic, but it's entertaining and weird, and fun to watch the kids casually interact with the ghosts. Also a case of people being murdered in over the top, gruesome (sinister, if you will) ways that only characters in horror movies would bother doing.

Loris

On browser there's a pinned post with updated links to all the rambles

Michael Bennett

Sorry, i’m new on patreon, how can I watch this video?

Gustavo Ulguim

They've just been moved! On browser there's a pinned post with updated links to all the rambles

Jenny Nicholson

hi, just joined your patreon and was really looking forward to watching all your back catalog but soooo many things are privet *sad face emoji*

Naama Weiss

Private :(

Oooch

I really liked As Above So Below. One time I watched it 2 days in a row with 2 different friends because I wanted them both to see it haha

Kelsey Barton

Or, failing that the video might be released to me. The video is mine. Bring Me The VID---

Andrew Hill

Ohh, roger, txtx. I guess if vaccination goes well and response keeps pace with the disease maybe this video will be relevant enough for wide release.

Andrew Hill

She said in one of these videos that it ends in a call to action and it wouldn't be as effective if their offices are empty.

Tj Belton

Pretty sure she mentioned in one of these videos that it would be weird to release it during the pandemic when the park was closed, so it's tabled for now

Ghostfellow

Wait this makes me so sad what happened to the knotts farm video has it been stolen

Andrew Hill

> "none of the things I pick are going to be like 'oh my god my favorite movie that Jenny likes'" > breaths later mentions 17 Again, one of my favorite movies in the world > Jenny on G4 MLP: Pony Princess: Good High School: Great High School Band: Actually very good I was being facetious with the last one

Cos★Atlantic

Oh my god I don't think you ever did your episode nine spreadsheet flow chart video

Chelsea Counsell

Thanks for being the negative space of horror movies. ;)

Andrzej Kapolka

You are absolutely my favorite content creator. So glad I can be a patron now

Ryan Fuerst

Jungle Book was good.

Mac Smith

Loving your videos! Just signed up as a patron.

Gavin W.A.

I love Knott's Berry Farm, Please make as many videos as you want about it XD

Omnimelon

I Love Mystery Lodge!

Omnimelon

OMG PLEASE DO A SINISTER 2 VIDEO!!! I love the Sinister movies, I have no idea why. Like, the Sinister and Insidious franchises, that's where it's at. I know my taste is bad please don't judge me.

Maddie Williams

SO EXCITED FOR ML VIDEO! Your theme park vids are the best.

Samantha Kitty Marks

I would say i'm a bit more interested in the flow chart over the trevorrow script, as I myself have been playing different ways ep ix could have gone with similar story beats, and how just a few tweaks could have made it a much better movie. I keep forgetting about it and then just waking up and turning to my roommate and saying stuff like: why did they introduce so many new characters in the last film it derailed so many character arcs of existing characters!!? Why did they kill Hux like a dog?! Why have Lando save everyone in the end?! etc etc. I'm going a little insane with it because a lot of the plot fixes seem so obvious and yet they messed it up anyway somehow.

Manon Hale

I recently re-watched 17 Again on a plane and had a great time! It really is a surprisingly fun, charming movie.

Carla Viz

Id really like the second jeff the killer video but I 100% understand if you're not comfortable making it if it ends up with harassment of the author. For fanfic books and actual fanfic maybe only do stuff that's so old that the author has stopped posting or just dont name the author. But I guess it might not be as much fun if it isn't about modern stuff. My chemical romance at hogwarts is absurd but maybe not as interesting to people now as one direction during the purge. A second Johnstone book would be sweet tho. Flow chart idea also sounds awesome. Tho tbh you've never made a video I didn't like so 🤷

Iso-kun

just the bear necessities

Sordahon

I love all of your Star Wars videos and would honestly love either option (or both) but I am definitely intrigued by the script doctor/flowchart idea.

Madison Hansen

Cool, thanks for the tip! Edit: Watched and laughed, great suggestion! For anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxx3_EnhxHs

bub

I'm really just interested if they're well-executed in terms of the basics of story construction, which is what most of this channel deals with. That and theme parks lol.

bub

Bailey Meyers talks about a couple of those.

Stuart Payne

A good movie and a bad movie can share the same plot, characters, and theme, so wouldn't high-quality horror be defined by how well it freaks us out, whatever its theme may be? Or are you hoping to tease out the biases of movie critics?

Steve Ray

I would love a crazy ep. 9 Script Doctor, and I would suggest that, if possible, you create a conspiracy cork board with all the plot points, and colored yarn showing what does and doesn't go together. I think it would be a more fun visual aid than a spreadsheet.

Marigold Lloyd Cameron

I'm not opposed to you making a pt.2 for Jeff the Killer because I totally went out and bought the book for myself.

Creamer

Super excited for all the content you've mentioned. I having a feeling the SW Land cooking video will be super fun because it'll be sort of a disaster -- in a good way (if you know what I mean). I've also always wanted to know more about Knott's (haven't never been). And I think others have mentioned this, but you could incorporate the "SW9 Spreadsheet Doctor" vid with elements from Colin's leaks (ie, "If you want to get to D7 from H4, you'll have to use this idea from Colin's ... Column ... Colin's Column. Geez.)

Darren Pierce

so hype about theme park videos coming up

Summer Eldridge

Fair enough, but I think you see what I'm getting at. These movies are treated like really high quality, which stems from their use of technique not usually found in horror and how they're marketed. I think a discussion about why this is happening, if the high quality label is earned or not (especially by looking at plot, characters, and theme), and maybe a silly "this is my prestige horror idea" would be a fun video.

bub

Yup, it was great; it was pretty funny and I found myself tearing at the friendship and such. My sister knew all the songs (which were fantastic!) and really enjoyed it. Couldn't've been a much better way to spend a birthday afternoon. Really grateful for the recommendation.

Shaun Cheah

Important? I thought both of those just presented themselves as being high-quality, or at least non-low-quality.

Steve Ray

Just noticed the bobba comment, that's a horrible thing to have to think about. Glad you are staying safe!

Neil Dutton

Flowchart would be great! Any interest in talking about the recent-ish wave of prestige horror like the VVitch or Hereditary? Hearing your thoughts on themes for some of those would be interesting, especially since they present themselves as being important

bub

I think this is it: https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/7153811-vintage-join-the-resistance-poster I'm buying one!

Luis

Ah cool. What are your thoughts on Noita? Edit: I ask because it is full of references to alchemy and quotes from the texts of alchemists and such. Also because it's a fantastic game.

Shaun Cheah

4 minutes in and jokes on you, Jenny, because As Above So Below is my favorite horror movie and I'm so glad you mentioned it. All the creepy imagery is actually incredibly well researched/conceptualized from an alchemical symbolism perspective. It feels like almost every beat in the story is a nod to those well versed in occult iconography and the concept of a magnum opus (like...the alchemical "great work", not the colloquial use of the phrase)

Luc Gendrot

star wars videos sound so good, but between flowchart and ep 9 leaks definitely the leaks.

Holli

i love your episode ix flow chart idea SO much, i had a similar feeling after the movie ended of "i dont know any single change i could have made to make the movie better, everything is conditional" and i would really love to hear your take on how you would've worked around certain plot points! but i'm also really excited for all of the other ideas you're planning especially the knott's berry farm one because i love seeing you talk about things you're passionate about and also star wars land 2 of course, so no pressure re: more episode ix content!

mari terese

I would prefer the flowchart idea!! It’s so unique and something you’ve never done before

Josh Swafford

The flowchart idea is really great and I would love to see that for TROS or any other media. Good stories have set-ups, not just a bunch of things we might have otherwise wanted to see.

John Fenster

Same those are my favorite!!

Avon Gale

COOKING SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!

1000thghost

"I really wouldn't recommend it to anybody but I was entertained by parts of it" is a good summary of my life :p

I think maybe you could use the Trevorrow script to reference when discussing the flowchart, without giving the Trevorrow script an entire video. Although you might have an issue that not everyone will know that script

Tiamat4

Any chance you could share where you got the Bek shirt, for other people who may think Bek is the best?

Brian Perkins

Theme park vids are my favorite for sure; can’t wait for the Knott’s berry farm video!

monsterthief

I would love another William H Johnstone video. I promise to be good!

Jeremy Cabo

The Jungle Book 2016 IS my favourite movie. I'm sitting underneath the huge officially-sanctioned Jungle Book poster right now, with my life-size cardboard cutout of Bagheera on the wall next to me. I want to meet Jenny's Jungle Book-stan friend to either befriend them or challenge them to a Jungle Book stan-off. That movie does indeed, slap.

Callum Moore

I love the theme park videos they’re so great.

Noe Ramirez

Ep 9 flowchart sounds great!! Would be interested in the Trevorrow video too but if we could only have one I'd go flowchart

Meghan

Thank you for “Fathom Events for babies”.

Johnathan Reale

I am so hype for literally every upcoming video idea. all of them are good and I need them. Especially another Johnstone video

Zutara Forever

Excited for the hard pivot to all Star Wars Is Dead content. Jenny stalking through Target yelling at Beaumont action figures.

Neil Dutton

I hope Jenny does the Star Wars cooking video, and dresses up as Harvey Korman in the Holiday Special and goes "Stir, Whip, Stir, Whip, Whip, Whip, Stir"

Bryan Sutton

I VOTE FLOWCHART. weird thing; i've been doing the same thing but in a google doc, compiling the best version of what ep9 could have been based on stuff other YouTubers have suggested and my own wish fulfillment 🙃

Laura Septique Tanque

i'm totally one of those people that knew nothing about Buzzy but cared about it deeply after watching your video so i'm psyched another one in that vein. your fanfic stuff is some of my favorite, but i get the concern about author harrassment. maybe that would be a good patreon-only video instead?

Shiny Skunk

jenny: none of these are gonna be your favorite movie; also jenny: 17 again

Flora

Haha I was so focused on the ramble I kept forgetting about the boba so the sudden close ups of Jenny kept making me chuckle. I wonder what flavor boba it was 🤔

Luis

Yeah the secret boba really ended up enhancing the experience, glad it worked out that way.

Shaun Cheah

The flowchart for IX also sounds really entertaining.

R.G. Nairam

yaaaaay I love the theme park videos

R.G. Nairam

I'm wondering why she didn't like Bambi II, I thought it was thoroughly enjoyable even though it wasn't as good as the original.

John Friedrich

I would love to see a collab between them. Like maybe Jenny could still go through and make jokes about the book, but it would be interspersed with Neesha roasting Jenny's earlier work. Then they could meet up with Bailey Meyers and Lindsay Ellis to get drunk and make fun of R.L. Stine's adaptation of Phantom of the Opera.

Dr. Kirill Hitoshi Lopez

I loved the unintentional drama that the close ups to hide your boba tea cup brought to this.

beth h

I'm excited about the Mystery Lodge and so ready to hear about Knott's Berry Farm.

Patti Carr

This is great. I needed some freshly baked content this morning.

Colin Ginter

I feel as if we have all probably written terrible fanfics so maybe we can submit our own works so no authors are harmed.

Spencer Hastings

My favorite videos are always you reading things so very hyped about a johnstone video especially about a romance. Maybe one from when he was still alive lol.

Spencer Hastings

I’m glad to see you’ve begun filling out the Horse Desk

Sara Nicole

PLEASE an analysis of Duel of the Fates

Michael Puckett

If this is her she seems really cool! From the Author https://www.amazon.com/vdp/14048c879be9403eb388a85588684e6c I think Jenny could do a video with her.

Michael Puckett

Flowchart idea sounds superb! Like, it is basically screenwriting rules but Star Wars-specific? Couldn't think of anything more edutaining

Vasyl Kerimov

Best post-divorce revenge projects might be a good ramble topic.

Vasyl Kerimov

Here's Nicole's comment: https://www.patreon.com/posts/25552435

Galewolf

Experiencing the Mystery Lodge as a 12 year old was the trippiest moment of my entire life to this very day. And I’ve tried EVERY drug... Get hyped for the video guys.

Daniel Stephan

Really excited for another Johnstone video (hopefully one of the cowboy books), and the Trevorrow video because it's always funny when people dunk on Collin Trevorrow, and I'd be really into a Sinister 2 video. Also, as far as Jeff the Killer, if somebody submitted that as a ramble topic, would that be a good workaround? It would be a shame not to have a normal video of it, but at least it could be something without causing any trouble for the author.

Steven Clark

as far as bad movies that are surprisingly fun, masters of the universe. Frank Langella does such a fantastic job in a bad film that he elavates the quality of the whole thing, also the behind the scenes stories make it surprising that it's watchable at all. in regard to episode 9, I vote for a Trevorrow episode 9 video, his idea isn't great but it's still better than what JJ did and George Lucas original script for star wars wasn't great either so with decent script editing I think that could have become a decent film. JJ's film on the other hand, where do you even start to script edit it. I've got solid ideas on how to make batman V superman work as a film or even star trek into darkness but the rise of skywalker, I'd just have not made that film, I'd have had no Palpatine outside of a reference to perhaps him and the empire inspiring snoke in some regard. I'd have had force ghost Luke play a more significant role, specifically having him interact with Kylo and following up on the line see you around kid and I'd have had an alliance between hux and the knights of ren be the villains of the story perhaps with hux planning to betray them when he's Supreme leader.

Matt Reynolds

Unfortunately the messages/comments about the author of Insanity: Jeff the Killer were true. She had watched the video and she had commented on it (there's a post with a picture of the comment in the community section of this Patreon somewhere) and she did make a video about her thoughts in 2018: https://youtu.be/lNyfoeQpO_E While looking for that video I also found this update in 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEgDxt0f7uU In light of all this, and as much as it sucks to say this (Insanity 2: Welcome to the Mansion has been a hugely anticipated video and kind of a running joke on this Patreon is how often it's been brought up in rambles as one of the future videos, I think only the lightsaber video has been in the works for longer), I don't think there's a way to make the video while respecting the wishes of the author. She doesn't want her work out there, the exposure is obviously to this day causing her hurt and harassment. The one way I could see to kinda resolve this would be if she was somehow a collaborator on the new video. Hopefully she could be made to see that people do actually enjoy her work, that she made something creative and funny and quite surprising that was very entertaining, even if it wasn't in the way she intended. It could also be an opportunity to talk about the negative effect of Getting Big on the Internet and how to deal with that, and the importance of people in general to just be more nice out here. But yeah, it's a really unpleasant situation and it's a shame it's come to this but it is what it is. The internet just really sucks sometimes.

Shaun Cheah

I need that mystery lodge video! Mostly because I’m lost inside it and don’t know how to get out.

Chris Reifsteck

I haven't reached the end of the ramble yet but hearing Jenny drag Equestria Girls was so life-affirming; it was my youngest sister's first introduction to My Little Pony so for the longest time she believed it was the original version of the show and that the pony stuff was secondary, which was a long struggle to correct and even now is incomplete. So to hear that Jenny hates the original movie and the design and all that... It really helps. As I said, though, I haven't finished the video so I'm posting this at a risky moment. The whole premise of the ramble is that the movie she's about to discuss is actually kinda good, so I might unpause this and just immediately have to hear praises for the very thing I wrote this to complain about. Can't resist a good gamble, though, so bring it on. Edit: Okay so now I'm gonna have to watch Rainbow Rocks with my sister and also I think I like Equestria Girls. Also wow that revelation about the My Little Pony movie, gotta revisit the video with that information in mind.

Shaun Cheah

Did anyone else tilt their monitor so that the room would be level?

Jerry Nicholson

so hyped for the theme park video!! & i’d love to watch the ep 9 spreadsheet video if you do another tros vid

Taylor

lol I fell asleep halfway through Underwater but the parts I was awake for were entertaining! I love the theme park videos so definitely hype to learn about the Mystery Lodge. Star Wars cooking sounds fun and also TROS was such a letdown I'd love to see the spreadsheet/flowchart video.

Luis

Wow I am so excited for knotts content

Julia

The end of As Above So Below is lifted from Dante's Inferno. I think it was a good idea, and I liked it, but I think the filmmakers gambled on people "getting it" and lost.

Robbi Graves

Queen of surprising herself

Sandra Lee