Potential changes to the Hunter (10-dollar) tier
Added 2021-03-14 12:54:14 +0000 UTCI have done some considerations and would like to make an enquire. Note that this poll is open to every Patron.
I am gonna be honest; coming up with a meaningful side story that doesn't just feel like meaningless filler or potentially negatively affects future parts of the story is damn hard, especially with one being produced every week.
The time it takes to write a side story is also often the same, if not more than the time it takes to write a normal chapter. Some side stories taking quite a bit more due to how much longer they sometimes end up being. There is also the huge issue with how some side stories are just too relevant to the main story, and honestly should be open to everyone... but opening them to everyone would devalue the tier.
So, I have considered maybe changing so instead of a side story every week; we just change it to 1-2 extra normal chapters every week. Making the Hunter tier effectively award more chapters than the 5-dollar tier, growing every week. Likely till it reaches a number I feel is right (50 chapters total most likely). Side stories will still be a thing but will be less consistent and also a bit more liberal with who can read them.
For the 3 and 5-dollar Patrons, this will mean not result in any fewer advance-chapters, but only potentially also unlocking side stories.
Thoughts? Added a poll below, but any comments with input are also highly appreciated.
Comments
I actually find side stories interesting specifically when filling in gaps of knowledge and lore. Finding out about the primordial, races, tutorial, etc is all interesting to me. Would love a side story with the different types of alchemy and what they are for or all the professions and/or classes and how they can evolve.
Miles Mouton
2024-11-17 23:49:24 +0000 UTCI am a great fan of keep it simple. Honestly when reading books I often skip side stories. I get around to the side stories, if the book is good enough to reread. ;)
Bettina
2021-06-02 20:04:19 +0000 UTCI have no clue, I'll probably never go above the 5 dollar one, since I live outside of the US and with the pandemic the coin of my country has reached a ridiculous 6-1 ratio with the American dollar, so I pay really 30 bucks for it...
Pedro Sernagiotto
2021-04-14 16:12:56 +0000 UTCI concur. There is no point in subscribing to a story to be able to read ahead, yet not being of a sufficient tier to actually be up to date. I like this story, as do many others, but for people who read as a hobby, one story is just not enough to get their daily fill. Considering that, I feel it might be a gamble on Zogarth's part to change the established pricing. I'm certain there will be many people who will simply upgrade, but there will be those like us who will instead unsub. The question will be whether the former will be large enough to cover the losses from the latter. I hope it will.
Silfay
2021-03-17 08:36:04 +0000 UTCHonesty, the more chapters it gives the less appeal for permanent subscription there is for me. If you get 50 chapters advance while getting 20 per month, ideal price/chap ratio is sub once every three months and get all the goodies. I believe ideal ratio is for the final tier have same amount of chapters advance as you produce in one month. Then each month beings new content. Also side note it is much harder to bring new people in for 10$ then 5. Good example is Azarinth healer imo
Detrox
2021-03-16 11:12:28 +0000 UTCI'm completely okay with your 10 dollar patreons getting more...but I think 50 chapters is a tad ridiculous...why not do 35-40 instead
lionheart
2021-03-15 18:32:37 +0000 UTCMost of the appeal for me to follow on Patreon is to get to read the chapters as they are produced (not counting your personal buffer). An extra $5 a month (Amercian) might not seem like too much, but it adds up. One reason I switched from First Defiers' series to yours, it seemed more reasonable for what I was getting - because once you catch up, it is still 5 chapters a week. I would probably go in for the $10 for one month, to read the side stories, once there's more content... have you considered doing a mini-serial on Sundays instead of one-off sides? Following one character (that may become significant later on) elsewhere in the world. It might be easier than coming up with new scenarios/settings/characters so often.
Chris
2021-03-15 13:19:18 +0000 UTCI follow a few authors on Patreon and I never buy any tier other than the one that allows me to read the most amount of chapters. If I find it too expensive I will just read for free on RR rather than subscribe at a lower tier. That being said, I feel like the 5 dollar price point is good for the amount of content(word count) you produce every week.10 dollars is a bit too steep in my opinion and if you add more chapters to the 10 dollar tier I will probably unsubscribe rather than upgrade.
Daniel Persson
2021-03-15 11:24:10 +0000 UTCStill thinking about that one...
Zogarth
2021-03-15 11:09:20 +0000 UTCWill the change start in april?
_mori
2021-03-15 08:51:48 +0000 UTCI am significantly more likely to pay 10 dollars for more main story than side stories even though I do love worldbuilding side stories.
Michael
2021-03-14 19:11:34 +0000 UTCYou will still get 20/month for 5 just like before. Likely even a bit more with a side story here and there. The 10-dollar tier will move to be getting 25-30 a month until it settles on 50 advance chapters total.
Zogarth
2021-03-14 16:47:22 +0000 UTCThe still 20 chapter a month pace for double price? Feels I will pay double and get no extra benefit. I mean a kindle book costs about 10$ and contains like 30-40 chap. If you want to increase your monthly subscription to that range and still keep this pace, it feels overpriced. For 20chap/month I feel the 5$ is still acceptable, but 10 is a bit much
Zoltan Miskolci
2021-03-14 16:29:12 +0000 UTCAh that’s nice. I have nothing against the 10 dollar tier having more chapters, being 100 percent caught up isn’t really an issue for me. I just didn’t wanna scroll through 30 posts on my phone before finding the right one. Glad to know!
IJustWannaRead
2021-03-14 15:56:21 +0000 UTCI think you can choose "tier" at the top of the menu and select your tier in a drop-down. If not, you should get an email every time a post is unlocked and there will also be a notification and link on Discord.
Zogarth
2021-03-14 15:48:27 +0000 UTCIs there some way to change settings or something to only unlocked chapters or is that already a thing? Don’t know much about patreon. I’d the 10 dollar tier is gonna end up 20-30 chapters ahead of the 5, I really don’t wanna scroll through all that just to find my chapter every single time.
IJustWannaRead
2021-03-14 15:39:18 +0000 UTCyeah if you add more chapters ill gladly double my contribution of 5$ :D
Sol
2021-03-14 15:06:26 +0000 UTCyeah the 5$ option has been, in my mind, the “all chapters not available to everyone” having the tier above get more chapter would be pretty annoying, especially that we wouldn't be the “first” to get the wonderous chappies :'(
LurkDuck
2021-03-14 14:12:37 +0000 UTCBecause a lot of the comments downplay side stories themselves; here's my perspective. We're all here for the main plotline *including the author* but getting side stories is a little bit extra in between the main plot, which the author will (hopefully, please keep going we love you) write and release anyway so all in all it's more content. Next point from my perspective, it's really really really nice to get a supplementary glimpse of all the extra world building that comes with writing fantasy and would otherwise be forever relegated to "notes", and I really appreciate the authors that take time to format it into readable work instead of keeping it locked away to *maybe* release all at once in the future if there's enough die-hard fans. Long time reader first time long post. Blessed be ❤
g00b3r guts
2021-03-14 14:10:06 +0000 UTCAgreed. Never understood the extreme interest in side stories. I personally mostly skip them in stories
Pokox
2021-03-14 14:09:57 +0000 UTCAnd I don't think that is anything anyone wants.
Zogarth
2021-03-14 14:05:14 +0000 UTCSide stories are hard to write without multiple true main characters.
Pokox
2021-03-14 14:03:02 +0000 UTCPersonally I believe you need to be true to the story. I want you to do whatever is best to make this overall a better read.
Pike
2021-03-14 13:25:19 +0000 UTCI'm here to support an author whose story I enjoy. The way I see it, as long as you are enjoying the process then write as you see fit.
Daniel Tickle
2021-03-14 13:24:29 +0000 UTCYou misunderstood me. I won't be dropping the story but I would just take a break, wait for royal road to pick up and read there or I would wait say two months and then read three months worth of chapters. And as I said, it's nothing to do with story but the budget I have for supporting my reading habits. As you surely can understand double price means I have to balance the money and I dislike supporting for halfway as I said before
Detrox
2021-03-14 13:20:53 +0000 UTCI know it's called 'Patron' but candidly- this extra money is my 'entertainment' money. I'm not some version of Bill Gates here- every dime is accounted for. So long as I'm being entertained- I can honestly justify to myself and others- giving you money every month. I'd point you at the LoRG that 'puddles....' is writing- he doesn't branch out- and he's doing $6400/mo! I'd enjoy you sharing who else is doing so well- trying to write a main and side stories too?! Recommend you save the side stuff for 'DeepMagic' entries and focus on your Main.
Silver Beard
2021-03-14 13:18:50 +0000 UTCNot sure how i fell about that (5$patreon here). For me the 5$ is not x chapter a week, it is more having up to date access to the story and while the chapter per week wouldnt change, beeing behind just wouldnt sit well with me. I would probably have to switch to occasionally paying 10$ to catch up and then not supporting for a month or two.
Brisyngr
2021-03-14 13:17:50 +0000 UTCWell, none of these options have anything to do with the main story itself, just the release of it.
Zogarth
2021-03-14 13:14:50 +0000 UTCNot sure about the poll options but I'm just here for Jake's story tbh. I don't mind if it's occasionally told from someone else's pov but not super into stretching out the story to give side characters more air time or to add some razzle dazzle. A concise story is a good one, makes for good pacing.. think it's been good so far so keep it up!
Samuel McCarren
2021-03-14 13:12:20 +0000 UTCWhen I consider which stories to support I only pick the tier with full access. Firstly If I want early access I want the whole package and secondly It tends to fuck with most recent posts as the unlocked post isn't latest. Don't get me wrong, I like your story very much but there are more stories I support and sometimes I switch around as my budget is not infinit. When considering which story to drop the 10 $ ones are in my eyes two other stories I won't be picking. So while I absolutely agree with you that the side stories are not worth the effort you have to put in, adding main storyline to 10$ will very likely force me to drop this one and maybe resub once every few months instead of keeping it up the whole time
Detrox
2021-03-14 13:10:17 +0000 UTCWe stand above all others!
Hedincool
2021-03-14 13:09:41 +0000 UTCIf 10$ offers more chapters, there will be more than just a few. I personally don't really want to pay an extra 5$ just for side stories. Now, 50 chapters ahead? That. That I can support.
Bodoroo
2021-03-14 13:05:55 +0000 UTCYay! Love for us Apex's! We of the few and mighty!
BubblyGhost
2021-03-14 13:02:51 +0000 UTC
