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D&D Court: Bonus Cases - Butt Hat

Dungeon Court is STILL in session! Justices Murphy, Tanner and Axford, as well as the jacked Bailiff Hurwitz continue their rule on high.

D&D Court: Bonus Cases - Butt Hat

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Except the one that's pretty dang shallow. Like my beloved bogs.

Lilli of the bog

One of the best moments I clever saw as a player was the first time PWK was used against a party I was in: DM: "dude tells you to die... ... ... and you do." THAT'S the use. That's the moment. Spamming PWK, or any super powerful spell, removes its meaning.

ThacoIsWacko

Power word kill is such a cool and fun 9th level spell to stock for the powerful bad guys. My favorite Character death i ever had was when my Eladrin Monk was about to get the Killshot on his centuries old nemesis who he's been hunting for almost 1000 years and the bad guy was fucming scared of me. To get the kill I was gonna use my mage slayer reaction but I had to get in range so I jumped through a wall of fire that brought my he down to exactly 100 HP. And then on his turn I heard he was gonna cast a spell so I said I was gonna use my reaction to kill him until my DM said he was casting power word kill and I fucking died and the bad guy got away. Not only got away actually but he also took my body so I couldn't be revived. It was such an exciting moment that was down to just a matter of action economy. It was the best type of combat and it led to a truly awesome arc where my character was brought back to life and enslaved to a bad guy for a while until he got freed. Loved that Character and loved the way he died and came back. That's the type of thing Power Word Kill should be for. Not for fucking with a single player every single combat.

Sean Boyle

Great Lakes are deep deep lakes

Mark Cormier

Did we ever get an update on the sorcerer who kept getting Power Word Killed by the DM, even to the point of bringing out 2 wizards just to take care of his counterspell?

CommodoreBlue

Super late I know but I love Ems idea about greater invisibility but I don’t think this DM would try and dispel he would give every enemy true sight. Like I have had a DM who was very Player vs DM mind set and he DEFINITELY would get wrecked once by this and then have every single enemy have true sight. But if the dm does that you know for sure the DM is just trying to annoy you. Like it’s odd to me bc they definitely don’t want to kill you because at level 19 PCs I can name many monster with very high CRs to be equal to the players who have abilities that would kill you to a point only true resurrection could bring you back or have some imprisonment that way you are alive but frozen or trapped in another plane. Like there are ways to permanently remove a PC where that character can NOT return to the game. so if it’s not that then they are probably just feeling like they can’t control the table anymore it’s to high level to deal with and that you are fun to pick on.

William Blankenship

Murph, who is your favorite stand-up? If it's not Gary Gulman may I recommend Gary Gulman. Thank you for your time. I love you.

Nick Lerche

The deepest lake in the world is 5000 feet deep

Anthony

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Amanda Z

Ooh, another idea for the Sorcerer if the same thing with two wizards happens would be to twin spell counterspell.

Gearbox

Okay to be fair, with the ass hat argument. there were many times when it was stated that Bev held up his amulet for people to see. implying he wasn't wearing it. but people still got healed by it. I know I am way late and the conversation, but these are just my thoughts.

k.allen

I regret listening to this while eating, I should have known better

Kitil

As a person who hikes all over the place and looks up everything about those places, making fun of people for any lake depth you make up is weird. My grandparents lake is only 8 feet deep, and Crater Lake is 1,946 feet deep. Unless you say the lake is 1 inch deep or 10,000 feet deep, you're in the clear.

Garrett Sharpe

I NEED an update on the Power word kill case.

mentallo

I know i’m late, but i would like to submit to the court the Smart Watch Precedent. If i have a smart watch, even if it is on my ankle, it will still be able to be bluetooth connected to my phone. Thus, I believe if a magical bracelet was in my stomach, it would still be able to attune to me as it is in constant contact with my body.

W1LDF1RE

Coins have ridges along the side as a preventive for shaving the coins. It's really an anachronism at this point, since it's ridiculous to try and collect enough metal that way to be worthwhile. It started when coins were still silver and gold.

Graham

I love how Emily basically changed Pendergreens (idk how tf it's spelt) name. I'm almost 100% certain when he was first introduced, it was Pendergaust or something like that, but Emily just kept mispronouncing it and eventually they went off of what she was saying 😂 If someone wants to go back and check, that'd be great

Bulbarat

They're specifically asking for Curse of Strahd because of the whole running water versus vampire

Andrew Fisher

To be fair, you can't just look at a lake and tell how deep it is

Eli McCool

Also the ridges on coins were put there to stop nipping. People would cut off the edges of coins. And as far as the socerer getting pwk, the DM could come back to greatsr invisibility with the npc has truesight

Evilbob02

I was very much on Jake’s side until he brought this up, you can’t just go out of sight out of mind

Miles W

I just wanted to add to the Rat Orgy discourse. Murph’s comment about hearing an ice cream truck being distracting brought to mind the time when I was in the middle of sex when bagpipes started playing (A semi-regular occurrence on my college campus). Burst out laughing. Couldn’t stop. Couldn’t control it. My hookup was VERY mad that I couldn’t compose myself and continue.

Miles W

This is by far the best short rest I’ve heard!!! Love the 2 crew!!

laurel peterson

Where does the clown thing come from?

Ragan Willis

Lake fact! I live on a lake and it is 180’ deep! Lakes can be pretty deep! (My lake is also a very large lake that is fed/feeds the savannah river-it has a dam and crosses state lines!)

Bryttany A

[spoilers] OMG wasn't this one of the funniest DD court short rests? "How many rats would take to ruin an orgy? For me three" "One!" It's very similar to "How many clowns would take for you to leave a restaurant?" Weren't Jake and Brian on opposite sides on that one? One clown Jake and several clowns Brian? So funny!

Peter S.

To avoid power word kill, silence and/or a use of heroes feast could help preventing sound or making your hp max over 100, you can also look for amulets to raise your Con if it's not at +5 atleast

Lorelei The Succubi and Kyra The succulent snack

Deepest lake in the world is Lake Baikel, at 5,387 ft (1,642 m). For context, max depth of the Atlantic Ocean is 27,480 ft (8,376 m).

SolemnSeagull

A rat wouldn’t have to move through difficult terrain because all of the orgy participants would most likely be two sizes larger than it (Tiny rat vs. Medium human)

Rafi Ronquillo

Love the requests for updates! Can't wait to hear more of the powerword kill fiasco and about terrible lake designs

Marlin

This is the comedy I pay for!!! :D

LINK8659

Can we please have an update on the video game?? Were devs ever found?

antibob

If I were the player, I would have just left the game...

Caitlyn Dill

That DM was being such an ass.

Caitlyn Dill

I don't think I've ever heard anything funnier than "rat at an orgy".

Caitlyn Dill

Can't wait for the follow up for the power word kill fiasco to be "so I casted greater invisibility and suddenly all the DMs wizards also had truesight"

Hardwons Left Quad

This delights me to know 😂

Jessie Kelly

My husband and I will now be incorporating orgies into our campaign regularly just so we can see what our players do to navigate them 🤣

Astrud Adler

Gold isn't soft enough to be dented by teeth. It was to make sure it wasn't painted lead

Callum Clark

Guy with a boner trying to stomp a rat lives in my mind now. Thank you.

Penny Garbo

We just gonna ignore the whole “How far can this fist fit up your ass comment from Jake?”

Ranch

The Magic Item section of the DMG has a section called “Wearing and Wielding Items” that talks about how magic items “must be donned in the intended fashion” in order to benefit from its effects/abilities.

Caleb Trayer

Loch Ness is 700' deep by 70' away from the shore, which is 1.5 fathoms of depth for every foot away from shore, hitting ~120 fathoms total. 50 fathoms is a bit high for average lakes but not too bad.

Bill Pack

Aid, Deathward, Toughness, Increase Con > Power word:Kill Honestly, they should have rolled initiative. Clearly abusive.

Bill Pack

I clearly need to up my orgy game…so many rules.

Professor Pratt

Plethora of lovers!!!!!

Professor Pratt

Wait, I read that lake guys submission before the episode. He definitely said the lake was 50 FATHOMS deep. Did he edit the post to save further ridicule?? WHAT IS THE TRUTH, JACK???

Justin Lang

I have a question what is the counter play to 2 npc's walking up to you out of combat and and casting 2 sets of power word kill other than beefing up you wizard to be above the threshold.

Mitchell Blake

This is one of the best Short Rests ever 😂

tonytheoneandonly

Jake, the Chthonic Bailiff

Axel Ottel

Some truly chaotic energy in this recording, we are blessed

Scott Hewson

I love how none of the explanations for the coin ridges in the comments are the same

Crits

So analyzing this case from the spectral jury stand, I think there was a hint toward the truth by our justices. There is some unspoken drama that has happened between the player and DM is the PWK case. Most likely crucial information that the player has conveniently left out of his case file. Our player, omitting this important detail, that he is sleeping with the DMs wife!!! What he doesn’t know is that DM has discovered the truth, and rather than confronting the player about said slight, he is taking the long approach: tormenting his player and ultimately draining this players joy from all things D&D. The question should be is this method of torture appropriate for this level of slight. If you really think about it, there really is no other scenario that would have birthed this conflict!

Mr. Satan, the World Martial Arts Champion and the Earth's protector

The coin ridges started to make it obvious when counterfeiters tried to shave or clip the edges of coins off to get enough metal to make fakes; more interestingly the idea for the ridges was Isaac Newton’s - for a while he was the chancellor of the exchequer (or some such equivalent) and was so focused on stopping counterfeiters that he had a special crime fighting outfit he wore when he was hunting them down

Calyx Rose

When I get surprising questions I don’t know the answer to like « how deep is this lake » I usually assert dominance like Murph says and reply « the lake casts power word kill »

Jonathan H.

The power, word, kill thing is insane. Imagine if all the characters in Harry Potter were casting Avada Kedavra 24/7.

Robin Moran

The coin ridges are so that people with visual disabilities can identify the coins

Robin Moran

So. The sword in a backpack defense May not hold up. In the legend of drizzt, Breunor, At some point, is holding icing Death on his person, but not wielding it, and yet still manages to benefit from it’s fire resistance

Pagos, Self-Proclaimed Fae King, Now with Real Musical Improv Action

Fingers crossed one of the crew sees this: Please stop at the Czech Stop for kolaches on your drive from Austin to Dallas. You’ll thank me.

Jordon Brown

I think it depends on the size of the rat. Baby rat? Still grinding

Ilana Galpert

Railroading is absolutely a real thing, especially among junior GMs. They have a specific story in mind, both setups AND resolution, and they want to play it out. They consider that the players' job is to guess the correct way to succeed the encounters, and if they do something else, the inexperienced GM will ignore/retcon it at best, punish them at worst. Learning that it's more than fine for players to "ruin" the story you planned is a major milestone for GMs. Maybe you guys weren't exposed to this because you're surrounded with people with improv/performance experience.

Garga Lenoir

I stand with Jake on the number of rats I can ignore in an orgy.

William Bowen

the PWK DM needs to be reminded that NPCs don’t know player stats. the wizards wouldn’t know the sorcerer only has 98hp. they can reasonably assume her hp is lower than a paladin or barbarian in the party, but it still doesn’t make sense for them to use the spell that way. he isn’t “outsmarting” anyone; he’s meta gaming.

Sawyer Smith

The best option for the Power Word Kill case is to give the player access to play Ryan Urphy. That’s the only way a PC can “outsmart” a DM like that.

Kenny

I mean as a bank teller I’ve received money that was eaten by rats so I wouldn’t be surprised if people bit coins

Grass

That's what I was thinking- at higher levels most boss-level creatures you encounter have some way to see invisible things, but based on this DM I'm guessing even enemies that technically shouldn't have a way to do that are going to all suddenly have True Sight once this player starts casting Greater Invisibility. That should definitely be this player's sign to leave if they weren't fed up enough before.

Stephanie Beal

I need a pwk update. That was insane

Leo

I sincerely had no idea Pendergreens was a name based on a store around them. I just thought their razzing had gotten sloppy 😅

Shane H

Does swallowing an item and passing it fulfill attunement?

Nick Lerche

While I'm not going to defend the nothing but power word kill case, I would like to bring out the Harry Potter defense where EVERYONE big bad knew power word kill (called something else) and other crazy high level spells. The defendent does need a new group of friends tho, they def getting bullied.

Owen Bardsley

The ridges on the sides of coins were originally to ensure that nobody shaved silver off the side of the coin

Jonathan Wiedenheft

WHAT ABOUT THE BELLY CHAIN

Ilana Galpert

Getting flashbacks to that hilarious "Episode 1 Tarrasque" bit where Murph was just screaming slightly off mic.

An_Armed_Bear

That PWK DM sounds like an absolute atrocious p.o.s! The fact that he has targeted this pc MULTIPLE times sounds pointed and he has a grudge against this pc. He doesn't want to have fun, leave that campaign 😤

Jeremy Tyler

In defense of the rat in the orgy, it's important to note that it's a blood orgy. If you sign up for a blood orgy your grossness tolerance is likely high and therefore wouldn't mind a rat

Vie.

Snakes can regurgitate what they eat too when they feel like they're in danger so I can see them just spitting it back up but if the item requires attunement then it's not gonna make a difference mid fight

Martian

I can smell all the enemies now having true sight from here folks

Steven Olson

I feel bad about the Power Word Kill sorcerer. They could also just not come back to life the next time they die. Since you can choose not to come back to your body if someone revives you, you just simply let your character die. Then make a new character designed specifically to kill magic users. A eldritch Knight fighter or monster slayer/ horizon walker ranger built with Mage Slayer and War Caster to use Booming Blade as a reaction so they can't move away. Maybe Lighting Lure to pull people in if they're just out of range. Maybe a dip into hexblade warlock to get eldritch blast and cool sword shit. Just absolutely fuck up your DM's shit

BassToad

They're a sorcerer, so they can quicken spell and still have an action/bonus action free to cast a cantrip. You still gotta go first but just cast the spell before you go into a room where you think a fight might be. That way if the DM is trying to be shitty they'll move the fight to another room, and you just keep doing that until there's no fights.

BassToad

The problem with greater invisibility is its an action so its useless unless the wizard goes before the monster and that's not common

Rigs216

For the lake question, the DM could also always say “your character has no idea…hop in and find out ;)”

Beetlefish

It wasn't a Wilson Wink! It was a total Voight move.

Gumbercules

I really we get a follow up on the power word drama

Noah James Perito

"COVER MY HOLES, I DON'T WANT THE RAT CLIMBING IN!!"

Welibwe

That's a pretty shitty spoiler Murph, some people still haven't seen..... The Hobbit?

Lorelei The Succubi and Kyra The succulent snack

The reason coins have ridges on them is because people used to shave the edges of them to get the precious metal so to stop that they started being minted with ridges so you could tell if someone had messed with it

Emmett Moon

In tears about rats at an orgy

Casey Alexander

you know i don't think a rat would ruin my orgy truthfully

foster the boneless duck

Real "Mouse Hole / The Woman In The Wall" energy to this one.

Thomas McManus

At first, hearing Jake say "Nothing can take me out of that bliss" was insane. Insane, until you hear the reason. Absolutely you don't tell anyone about the rat, look him dead in the eye, and give him a wink.

Anthony Abreu


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