The Delta Flyers - DS9 Prophet Motive 316 Audio
Added 2025-03-03 05:00:07 +0000 UTCThe Delta Flyers is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, Terry Farrell & Armin Shimerman. In each podcast release, they will recap and discuss an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
This week’s episode, Prophet Motive, is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, Armin Shimerman.
Prophet Motive: Zek, the Ferengi Grand Nagus, pays a visit to Deep Space Nine and moves into Quark’s quarters, where he takes on an important project.
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[Ratings] Robbie: 8.4. "I loved this episode! My only critique is the Bashir storyline." Robbie says he "would have given it a 9" if the B-story were done better. He insists that S3e6 is "one of the favorite episodes [he] has seen" so far and he genuinely enjoyed it. Garrett and Armin express shock. Armin: 5. Armin says he "didn't think this episode was 'going' anywhere until the prophets scene." The comedy was too broad, no one has any character development; Armin thinks this was a throwaway episode regarding "the narrative of thr show." Robbie pushes back substantially. Armin says it's useful to hear Robbie's perspective as an outsider. Garrett: 8.0. Garrett insists it was entertaining and that therefore it deserves a good score regardless of Armin's valid criticisms. Fans/Patrons: 7.2. Garrett and Robbie express surprise that it is low; they expected higher. Garrett's score was closest to the fans' score, as usual. (1:34:45--1:37:50)
Yule Tide
2025-03-25 14:37:39 +0000 UTCRight? Also episodes like these provide character insight to the audience. One could argue that it progresses our understanding of the character(s) and their motivations, which may come into play later in the series.
Hubert Ho
2025-03-17 16:02:10 +0000 UTCYeah, and it's also something people commonly do often as a defense mechanism; downplay how much hope/excitement they have to temper expectations, or to not "jinx" something. I'm a bit surprised that they didn't connect this to their own experiences, like a for a role or project that they (or a colleague) really wanted; but when asked, they might say, "Oh, it's no big deal, I probably won't get it anyway."
Hubert Ho
2025-03-17 15:53:32 +0000 UTCThe whole thing with Bashir will make sense in later seasons. There is a big reason why he downplays his ambitions
Ingrid
2025-03-05 07:23:11 +0000 UTCWhat Robbie said about “the wisdom to know the difference” may be the only thing helping me to get to sleep tonight. Thank you Robbie!
Mark K
2025-03-05 04:15:19 +0000 UTCAt this point in time, I agree that humanity is devolving. We need to WAKE UP. Employing the golden rule would reverse that.
sgtb99
2025-03-04 23:48:54 +0000 UTCEpisodes don’t have to progress anything. They just have to be entertaining.
sgtb99
2025-03-04 20:46:42 +0000 UTCIt was exactly trash talking with O’Brien & Bashir and it was hysterical!
sgtb99
2025-03-03 22:00:01 +0000 UTCWatch “Benson” and you will see Rene’s comic genius as a performer along with Ethan Phillips.
sgtb99
2025-03-03 21:44:35 +0000 UTCWell there are two things Armim mentions here where I think just not remembering previous events is the issue. As you say the Orbs are stolen from the Bajorans so selling them back is wrong but also saying how come the Prophets accept Siskos argument when actually what happens is he accepts theirs, that he actually still lives in the past despite his contention that time is linear. Also Sisko doesn't go in demanding anything from them like Zek does.
Andrew McKinley
2025-03-03 16:18:05 +0000 UTCI quite like the low key B stories we see in the second half of this season. They give the impression of DS9 as a living place and show the crew spending time with each other outside work. That said though I don't agree with Armin that every episode has to progress things I do find this one a little dull. I'd probably go for a 6.5 myself.
Andrew McKinley
2025-03-03 16:14:02 +0000 UTCI would argue the opening scene sets the mood for the male domination of the Ferengi society. Spoiler . . . . . . . . This also happens with Nog in a later episode.
Phil Adams
2025-03-03 15:11:56 +0000 UTCI thoroughly enjoy Armin’s perspectives, even when they differ from mine. In this case, I just think he’s too close to the execution of the A story to review it objectively. As Robbie and Garrett pointed out, there was a lot to like. I also think it did advance Rom’s story, even planting the seed for where he ends up at the end of the series. While I do think the Bashir story could have been developed a little bit better, I also think it continues to advance Bashir’s growth, including how much characters that once couldn’t stand him now genuinely care about him and his success. Consequently, I think this episode is a sold 8.
Andrew Cano
2025-03-03 14:07:18 +0000 UTCRegarding the opening scene, remember it was the 90s. Sexploitation was rampant in society. Not to justify but it was a sign of the times. I agree that it was inappropriate.
sgtb99
2025-03-03 12:09:19 +0000 UTCThe darts scenes are wonderful throughout the series! Good choice!
sgtb99
2025-03-03 12:03:54 +0000 UTCPicket Fences was a great show!
sgtb99
2025-03-03 12:02:01 +0000 UTCGreat performances by all! So funny! Not a favorite episode of mine though.
sgtb99
2025-03-03 11:54:39 +0000 UTCWith respect to Armin, he’s dead wrong about the ethics of Zek selling the orb to the Bajorans. The orbs are stolen goods. They were forcibly taken by Cardassian conquerors. Zek probably would have gotten it though Cardassian black marketeering. They are like the Benin Bronzes or Parthenon marbles. They belong to the Bajorans.
Jerry Emmi
2025-03-03 09:37:19 +0000 UTC
