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The Delta Flyers - DS9 Rivals 211 Video

The Delta Flyers is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, Terry Farrell & Armin Shimerman. In each podcast release, they will recap and discuss an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. 

This week’s episode, Rivals, is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, & Armin Shimerman

Rivals: Quark meets his match when a new rival opens a casino opposite his bar on the Promenade. 

We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Production Managers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeill.

Additionally, we could not make this podcast available without our Executive Producers:
Stephanie Baker, Jason M Okun, Marie Burgoyne, Kris Hansen, Chris Knapp, Janet K Harlow, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, Mike Gu, Tara Polen, Carrie Roberts, Tom Paynter, AJC, Nicholaus Russell, Lisa Robinson, Alex Mednis, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Nicole Anne Toma, Roxane Ray, Andrew Duncan, David Buck, Ian Ramsey, Feroza Mehta, Jonathan Brooks, Rob Traverse, Matt Norris, Stephanie Lee, Izzy Jaffer, Jan Hanford, Sam Mikelic, Thomas Irvin, & Jonathan Capps

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Comments

Except for the TNG ep “the game”. That one was a cool concept and a great episode

Doni Marie Sanchez

I love love love armins 7 degrees of separation stories

Sherry

I’m catching up up on these. I have to say that when you’re praising performances or wardrobe or makeup you so remind me of the ’so demure, so mindful’ trend on the socials atm 27/08/24

Sophie Kirkham

Mammils MAMIL’s Middle aged men in Lycra 😂

Sophie Kirkham

Same. Even though a lot of the episode is pretty meh, the O'Brien/Bashir story makes it ones of my favorites from this season

Wrestling With Gaming

This is a character building episode for Bashire and O’Brien. Love this episode for that.

Constance

Security and Star fleet can and do carry weapons when warranted. Odo doesn’t let visitors and non-Star fleet carry weapons.

Constance

It’s the extremes. Someone’s luck is someone else’s bad luck, so the extremes are in play.

Constance

She goes through her grievances quickly. And regardless, I do believe being cheated on would be enough to kick him to the curb.

Constance

It wasn’t a setup the time we see Bashir get called away. Bashir didn’t linger, he really respects O’Brien and made a decision to stop the bleeding on the court before he went to the infirmary.

Constance

He was helping her pack up

Constance

I thought the concept worked really well, it again leaves the audience room to think and speculate and to not spoon feed them. This show is great because of the respect the writers show to the audience. If you want to be on this DS9 journey, then I think you get what they’re saying. If you want to pick it apart why watch it.

Constance

What you ‘win’ is the sound - people are addicted to the sound of winning. The gamification of culture is a real thing today, this is a precursor to that. Just the pure idea of a winning sound is addictive. Speaks to a base instinct and desire.

Constance

It was open court, just like you’d find at a YMCA. O’Brien built the program for the court and anyone could signup. Then you just show up for your time. O’Brien doesn’t like Bashir and was surprised and kinda irritated that they had something in common, it was an important part of the episode.

Constance

The obvious development of Rivals from stream to competition must have Farengi origins: competition with those in the other bank of the stream of commerce!

peter

Have to disagree with Armin about this episode putting a kink in the friendship between Bashir and O'Brien because there was no friendship. This episode really displays how much The Chief really dislikes Bashir and sets them up for that to come to a head in 2 episodes. THEN the friendship begins to be built.

MG

I use the other search on that page a lot too. You can enter two different shows or movies and it gives you a list of everyone that appeared in both.

MG

I actually think Quark is better in this episode than many episodes in season 2 because we saw different sides of Quark in this episode.

Christopher Collins

This review reminds me of how well Season 2 did to improve Rom as a character compared to season 1 of DS9.

Christopher Collins

I think the game was the weakest element of this episode because the game was never explained and I never understood the appeal. I think in Star Trek they did the worst job writing original games. They were fine with Poker or Chess but when it was an original game the writers of Star Trek did a terrible job writing and explaining the appeal of those games.

Christopher Collins

I think this is the first episode where we start to see O’Brien and Bashir friendship begin rather than a rivalry. I also think Quark is put in a better light in this episode than som other episodes. It was nice seeing Quark go back and forth as positive vs negative light by winning and loosing.

Christopher Collins

That is interesting hearing the evolution of the script. That would have been interesting to see Gunian in the episode but at this time Whoopi Goldberg I can imagine was busy with films like The Sister Act films or doing her Comic Relief shows with Billy Crystal and Robin Williams as well as other projects.

Christopher Collins

I like the answer to the origins to Rival. I thought it was interesting that it was related to someone on the other side of the stream.

Christopher Collins

I love how Garrett pointed out the Birthday cake hair style. I have seen this episode many times and never looked at it long enough to pay too much attention to it before.

Christopher Collins

I thought the cowardly lion alien won and got his wish, to die, as well

Kris Hansen

The jailcell scene was nice but completely non realistic. People in jail are not allowed to bring ANYTHING into a cell with them. Odo would have confiscated the ball and put it into a storage locker. I never understood this episode or how the little ball worked either but I love the theory that if you "won" on the ball, then you would have good luck and if you "lost" then you would have bad luck. That way you could play the ball every time you were about to chance something and then it would tell you if you were lucky at that moment or not. I remember my MIL being totally addicted to a hand held poker game back in the 90s. She would sit on the back patio in her terry cloth tube top, drinking box wine in her white styrofoam cup and ignore the family for hours while playing. Ah memories... The alien dying in the jail cell after he finally wins reminds me of the scene in National Lampoon Vegas Vacation where the Sid Caesar character dies after finally winning at Keno. The family then steals the ticket and cashes it in much like Martus stealing the ball and cashing in on it. Contrary to Armin's claims, multiple rules were stated in about 10 episodes of DS9 and 1 on Voyager. Always be wary of the "we NEVER did this" claim. When Bashir was called to the infirmary, there was NO mention of an emergency. So him pausing a bit for a convo is no big deal. During Bashir's convo with Dax, every time the camera cuts to show Dax a different pair of extras is sitting there. First a Bajoran man and woman, then a pair of Starfleet officers, then the Bajorans, then the Starfleet guys, then the Bajorans and finally the Starfleet again.

ST Fan CB

Ok, just did the research on how many times Harry died in the series. Different sites give different numbers but here is my take on it. Harry died 5 times. 1. Deadlock 2. Timeless - Future Harry dies. This counts because he died before the timeline could be reset. 3. Emanations 4. Relativity - Harry died, but so did everyone else so... 5. Year of Hell - Every dies as well, not just Harry. Other episodes as mentioned by RDM: 6. Non Sequitur - Harry did NOT die but just sent to a different time stream. 7. Endgame - Future Harry did not die, the timeline just ceased to exist. 8. Course Oblivion - Harry did not die, his alien sludge duplicate died. I also found a reference that stated Janeway dies 15 times in the run but did not explore those. So Harry does NOT die more than anyone else.

ST Fan CB

“Humperdinck Humperdinck Humperdinck” was all I could think when I first saw him, too😂

Becky Messer

Okay! Now I need some one to write a scene between quark and Guinan

Sarah Zeisler

Enjoyed the new intro!

Heather Irwin

N.B. Re: drinks. They do occasionally order an “ale”. As oppose drop Romulan ale and it looks like beer. Miles especially does. Mr. Everyman.

Karen Chuplis

And Janeway for that matter

Craig Main

Didn't Tom "die" first in Time and Again, Ep. 4?

Mark Perron

Another great episode

Martin D

Just FYI, the "collaboration" search still exists on IMDB. You can find it when clicking on the "All" field right to the left of the search field, select "Advanced Search" and then the "Collaborations" tab (website, not sure about app) ... or bookmark the direct link: https://www.imdb.com/search/common/

cbaoth

Poor Sid in that outfit - not flattering. Loved the Harry death reel intro (did anyone make an actual death reel like Sean Bean's ?😆)

J

And speaking of Rosalind Chao, there is one DS9 episode in early Season 5 called The Assignment where she not only appears, but essentially carries the plot, and another in late Season 6 called Time's Orphan where she is integral as well. If ever Rosalind would appear on this podcast, those would be two good episodes to have her on for. More immediately, she's also good in Tribunal later on in this season, but that's mostly a Miles episode.

Ja Dav

Of course, some of us love K Callan from Lois & Clark. She was marvelous as Martha Kent!

Jeffra

This is one of my favorite "light" episodes, and I like how it appears to be somewhat of an homage to Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. BTW, the podcast should mention in an upcoming episode a plug for Rosalind Chao being the main antagonist in the current/final season of Sweet Tooth, a great show on Netflix.

Kip LeCrone

Hopefully you can get Jeffrey as a guest on here when he get to his era of this show.

Ja Dav

Armin, 100 miles is not a hike, that's a journey. :-)

Don Eitner

Great podcast! I did read somewhere that Whoopi Goldberg as Guinan from "The Next Generation" was originally going to appear as Martus (Chris Sarandon)'s mother. I'm glad that Garrett, Robbie and Armin got to talk about it. Liked the behind the scenes trivia that Professor Shimerman knew Chris Saradon before DS9. He has worked with a lot of famous actors, from Ron Perlman (in the "Beauty & the Beast" TV show) to James Earl Jones ( in the pilot episode of "Pros & Cons"). A missing scene with Quark and Guinan would be very fun to watch! My moral theme for "Rivals" is "Luck, good or bad, isn't something you should take for granted."

Nicole Brettell

Of course, I also love the play between O'Brien and Bashir. Stepping on the ball in mid-air -- terrific. :-)

Don Eitner

Yay, Rivals! One of my favorite DS9 "fun" episodes, which brought us several great Rules of Acquisition.

Don Eitner

Happy new week!

Peggy


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