Midnight Pals: O Canada
Added 2025-04-13 17:29:09 +0000 UTCPoe: so things are
Poe: things are pretty crazy these days
Poe: so crazy it's hard to even see the point in getting together with some friends
Poe: around the campfire
Poe: to talk and tell stories and forget the world a bit
Poe: yeah it sure is
Poe: but maybe-
King: hey did you hear the president is going to declare war on Canada
Poe:
Robert Heinlein: yes!
Heinlein: YES!!
Heinlein: [doing end zone dance] YES!!!!
Poe: you're awful excited, rob
Heinlein: you bet I am!
Heinlein: as a writer of military science fiction, you better believe me when i say
Heinlein: i love wars!
Heinlein: they're so theatrical!
Heinlein: [finger guns] pew! pew! pew!
Heinlein: finally! the time has come!
Heinlein: the Patrick henry society will rise again!
George Romero: the Patrick henry society?
Heinlein: you may remember us from our pro-Vietnam campaign
Romero: i thought science fiction writers said they wanted no more Vietnam
Heinlein: oh that's a typo
Heinlein: it should say "No, more Vietnam!"
George Romero: he can't declare war on the socialist paradise of Canada!
Robert Heinlein: oh yeah, ya dirty hippie? give me one reason why not?
Romero: for one thing
Romero: first of all where would all the conscientious objectors run away to?
Heinlein: you mean draft dodgers
Romero: eat shit heinlein
Heinlein: there's nothing better than a war!
Heinlein: i can't wait until we prove our AMERICAN SUPERIORITY by quickly & decisively crushing a weaker country!
Heinlein: this time, i'm sure it'll work out good for us!
Heinlein: i know it didn't really work for us in Vietnam
Heinlein: or Korea
Heinlein: but this time
Heinlein: this time i'm sure it will
Heinlein: i mean what are the odds that it'll bite us in the ass a third time?
George Romero: fourth
Heinlein: what?
Romero: fourth time
Romero: you forgot iraq
Heinlein: well now come on
Heinlein: that one's debatable
Heinlein: i mean
Heinlein: did we REALLY lose that one?
Romero: Afghanistan
Romero: fifth
Romero: what about Nicaragua
Heinlein: what about
Heinlein: that doesn't count!!!
Heinlein: who is this America hater?
Heinlein: this blame America firster?
Heinlein: this pinko commie lesbian socialist democrat?!?
Romero: they call me George "comrade to the people" romero
Heinlein: [narrows eyes] that sounds like commie talk to me
Heinlein: where did you say you were from?
Romero: Pittsburgh
Heinlein: [on phone]and, as soon as i get off hold with this snitch line, that's where you're going back!!
Comments
Heinlein's politics were, like most people's, kind of an incoherent melange, so I'm sure that someone could make the argument that he wasn't TECHNICALLY fash. But I think it's hard to argue, drawing both on his work and his personal life, that he didn't feel a desperate need that CERTAIN PEOPLE should be kept in their place by the grinding heel of authoratarianism and that's fashy enough for me to say that the specifics don't really matter.
Bitter Karella
2025-04-21 18:14:49 +0000 UTCI've read the thoughts of a Heinlein fan who says - and I'm not gonna argue with him, 'cause it's opinion, but the gist was, "He wasn't PRO-fascist, you see, he was just saying that in this sci-fi setting it was a government that *worked* and therefore the characters you meet are naturally gung-ho about it," and I'm reading that thinking, "OK, but doesn't it strike you as a touch weird, if you think about it, that the guy was like, "Fascism? YEAH, there's a government system that can REALLY WORK! Let's use that!"" And that's aside from the "intellectuals and professors and whatnot are all corrupt failures jealous of the amazing successes of brilliant (probably military, DEFINITELY armed) genius self-made folks who really deserve success and acknowledgement . . . also sex. Like TONS of sex," vibe that kinda runs through all his books. I even read some posthumous collection of his letters and whatnot, including him complaining about how a publisher wanted him to remove kids with guns from one of his stories, infuriating him because "IT'S *MY* NAME ON THE BOOK!" Pretty sure the publisher's name is on there, too, you freakin' child. Yes, I'm still bitter because an ex's dad (Navy guy, which explains it, really) talked me into reading a bunch of his books when I was a teenager and I liked 'em for about 3 weeks, until I kinda spotted the thread.
Vikki Vixxxen
2025-04-21 13:07:56 +0000 UTCI read all my Heinlein when I was young and dumb.
T. Ledoux
2025-04-14 18:49:55 +0000 UTC"eat shit heinlein" 😆👍💯🎉 I am not over reading Moon Is A Harsh Mistress what a load of crap
Gary McCammon
2025-04-13 21:00:18 +0000 UTC
