POLL - Should Hoshoryu get to become Yokozuna?
Added 2025-01-17 13:30:02 +0000 UTCThere is still a chance that Hoshoryu will be promoted to Yokozuna.
What do you think should be the minimum record he gets this basho to be considered for promotion, or do you think that after he wins this basho (which is not a foregone conclusion by any means) he should be required to win a 2nd in a row in March?
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I think it will be good to have a young and healthy yokozuna, even if he isn't as dominant as others before him. If he wins this basho, I'd say give it to him.
Stoyan Zaimov
2025-01-18 16:01:57 +0000 UTCShoot. Terunofuji's run up to Yoko is even more impressive: 2020 Nov - 13-2 J + Technique Prize 2021 Jan - 11-4 J + Technique Prize 2021 Mar - 12-3 Y 2021 May - 12-3 Y 2021 July - 14-1 J 3 Runner ups and 2 Yusho in less than 365 days.. all in a chain! In a world where Hakuho was not yet retired!
AnonHyena
2025-01-17 22:19:52 +0000 UTCI want Hoshoryu Yokozuna a lot, but he never beat Terunofuji and will never have the chance to do so. You can't be the best if you never beat the best. And Terunofuji won 2 in a row, and then was runner up against the GOAT in the 3rd! To get his rope! So Hoshoryu should need the 2 in a row, else his rope might always have a bit of an asterix next to it... Edit: As a side note, the year just started. We have before us a Year of the Warring Ozeki! Hoshoryu, Kotozakura, and Onosato battling it out for the empty rope! If its given away now, think of all the hype storylines we will be deprived of.
AnonHyena
2025-01-17 21:54:00 +0000 UTCIf he wins with a high score, he can be promoted. A win with 12-3 or maybe even 13-2 will require another strong performance in March. I believe high scores are more important than if it's Yusho or Jun-Yusho.
Heli Wu
2025-01-17 21:34:43 +0000 UTCI think that if Hoshoryu wins with a 13-2 or better, he will be promoted. The YDC has already indicated that they consider him to be on a rope run with his 13-2 jun-yusho, so I don't se why they wouldn't recommend promoting him with a 13-2 yusho. That would meet the informal benchmark of 26 wins over two basho. A 12-3 would be dicier. A couple of days ago I would have said that would not be enough, but with Teru retired, who knows?
laurajdogmom
2025-01-17 19:08:33 +0000 UTCIt should have to be 14-1 imo, but given the utility of a YK and Teru's retirement, the council may see things differently
D Lewis
2025-01-17 18:57:01 +0000 UTCWhile I dont know if the JSA would have a bias against Hoshoryu for any real reason since he is such an amiable person on and off the doyho, (other than the Gonoyama staredown) I would love this for him! Just shove it in the face of the JSA who would have tried so hard to deny him in this scenario.
Chris Hammy
2025-01-17 18:01:52 +0000 UTCThat is a great breakdown. I agree
Goose Short
2025-01-17 17:14:54 +0000 UTCI was a bit torn between 13-2 and 14-1, but I'm leaning more towards a 14-1 yusho being what gets him promoted, mostly because he has recent single digit kachi-koshis, and the fact that he's Mongolian..... but less than that might still be enough if the thought of being without a Yokozuna in March is too much
Michael Dyst
2025-01-17 16:53:11 +0000 UTCIf he wins the Basho, that ought to be enough. The sport needs an active Yokozuna, he's the best positioned of all the rikishi to take the role, which I believe he will grow into. If he were Japanese, this would happen by acclaimation,right?
Dave
2025-01-17 15:20:12 +0000 UTCNone of the above. He has an equivalent already iirc so a win here should be it. From my understanding that is what’s required and winning on the second seems to be more important.
Austin K
2025-01-17 14:02:05 +0000 UTCSomeone posted in youtube comments that previous yokuzuna were not often dominating before their succesful rope run. Both Kotozakura and Hoshoryu were on the same level of win rate before November basho. Also I wonder if the general level of sumo has spread more then before? There are so many wrestlers who while not contenders can easily play spoilers as they are good, but not great.
IcemanEspoo
2025-01-17 13:56:31 +0000 UTCTakakeisho was denied promotion in 2020 after getting 12-3 J and 13-2 Y. KIsenosato was promoted with 12-3 J and 14-1 Y. Terunofuji was promoted with 12-3 Y and 14-1 J. 25 wins was not enough for Takakeisho, so it should not be enough for Hoshoryu either. 26 wins was enought for Kisenosato and Terunofuji, so it should be enough for Hoshoryu, too.
Asko
2025-01-17 13:48:23 +0000 UTCMan, I really want Hoshoryu to become the next Yokozuna, but out of love for him and for sumo, I think the harder he has it to reach that promotion, the more awarding it will be for him and for all of the fans! It will be a far greater accomplishment if he can win twice in a row; especially if he clutches for a Hatsu yusho.
_hav0k
2025-01-17 13:36:48 +0000 UTCI think regardless of what happens in this tournament, he isn’t quite ready to be a Yokozuna. He’s my favourite active rikishi, and incredibly gifted, but the rank of Yokozuna must be respected and it wasn’t long ago he was 7-7 going into a final day. I have faith he will reach the rank, but it might take a little longer.
Jonny
2025-01-17 13:35:16 +0000 UTC
