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Ted Lasso 1x4

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The Last of Us 1x9

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My Hero Academia 6x21

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this is a good idea, polls on Youtube get a lot of user engagement and boost the channel

B Mowglli

I don't think I ever implied that the fireflies did anything right, this isn't at all what my point was. I'm saying that brushing off the choice by dwelling on the possibility of the cure and distribution details is undermining the point of the dilemma at hand. Obviously conducting the procedure without her consent is ethically wrong. Murdering 15 people in a hospital is ethically wrong. Nobody is not in the wrong here. The fireflies shouldn't have gone about this how they did in the first place. Joel shouldn't have stopped them in the manner that he did. Nobody was interested in giving Ellie a choice, both the fireflies and Joel made her choice for her, which is why I made the point I did in the first place. That this, including the moral question you raise, and the one Joel raises, should all be the main focus of the ending, and that brushing off that the fireflies wouldn't be able to create, or distribute, or would withhold the vaccine is completely undermining and skirts around all the beautiful complexity that has been set up here.

RonJon

Yes cures work. I really have to say this? Wow.

G W

The wrinkle is The Fireflies lied by omission and didn't tell Ellie she was going to die. If Joel saw with his own eyes Ellie saying yes, I doubt the outcome would have change. However, conducting medical procedures without full disclosure is ethically wrong and violates the Hippocratic oath. Along with the moral question you raise is the moral question "Is it okay to lie and mislead someone if it means saving the many?".

Chaos T

They mention in the TLOU uncut that Navi has seen the show before

Subwoolfer born on the moon

Y'all need to do a poll for do you love or hate Deku.

CodePhoenix13

Why is Navi the person to explain? Does she have a job that exposes her to similar jargon?

Thoko

Yes? When its one of the best shows on TV?

Brakthir

Lol corporate jargon. In other words the vocabulary of a tenth grader.

Shawn Brink

giraffe was real, just come to tell xD

Eryk Klukaczyński

Do we really need reactions to 4 seasons of a show where the super-rich are all being evil jerks?

Arctic_stark

Please react to Succession now that TLOU is over. Yes it has a lot of fast paced dialog and yes there are a lot of corporate jargon that most people dont have experience with but its a fantastic show! If anything, invite Navi to explain any details that are easy to miss/missunderstand.

Subwoolfer born on the moon

Who has giraffe money? HBO, that's who!

Grand Moff Slackin'

Yeah I agree with Ron. It's pretty clear by the way Ellie refused to go back to Tommy's place that Ellie would've taken the chance at a vaccine. The parallels between Henry's situation and Joel's is also a great point. You can't ask the parental figure to sacrifice their child, they will make the 'selfish' choice every time. Questioning the probability of a working vaccine after the sacrifice is just a coping mechanism because the surgery was going to happen if Joel hadn't intervened.

A. Saffari

I understand why so many people bring this point up because it's a logical thing to consider, but I really don't like the argument that the vaccine probably wouldn't have worked. It's a reasonable thing to question but I think that it's pretty clear that the point of the ending and the moral question being posed here is "Would you sacrifice the one you love for the good of everyone else, or save them" and I think that saying that it wouldn't have worked anyways is just undermining the point and skirts around the entire meaning of the ending to give him an out. The dilemma has been set up so well, even with Henry sacrificing the leader of the Resistance in order to save his brother's life, Kathleen even says to him "do you think that he's worth... everything?" He is worth everything to Henry, just like Ellie is to Joel, and it does end up costing both him, and all of Kansas City, everything. His efforts end up being futile in the end, just like Marlene says to Joel here, that he can't protect her forever, it's just a matter of time. A very complex problem that I don't think should be washed away so simply.

RonJon

i was so sure it was cgi too, hbo putting that budget to good use! what an incredible first season.

Foggy

the close ups of the giraffe are real lol, real giraffe surrounded by blue screens, there are BTS photos!

kyle


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