Future Approach to Homestuck^2

super excited by the new updates and new team. if this patreon is revived / if they make a new one i will be subbing again. happy to support them. if hussie reads this: thank you for making sure homestuck^2 did not die half finished. i understand the HS:BC staff are not directly overseen by you, but i still wanna express my gratitude to you for the homestuck universe. thank you.

Sam MadamMelonMeow

so psyched to finally get new HS again!

Metatron Zero

I wish the new team the best of luck! If this patreon ever opens again I’d be happy to contribute further because this looks very promising

Jade Salgado

best of luck to the union

Aleph Null

With what the about page said I don't think so? it seems to mention they are independently funded so they may have found a way to fund the new team without using Patreon or what remains of it.

Dante Crossing

our PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED

Dante Crossing

is the new hs2 going to reopen the patreon?

Waluigi

Happy 4/13 everyone!

Tyupmojo

Homestuck will forever hold a special place in my heart. I hope things are going well for everyone involved on the team and I hope to one day see Homestuck^2 completed. Sending lots of love and encouragement to those involved. Take your time and put lots of love into it. I was here when this was posted, I'm here now, and I'll definitely still be here whenever it's completed and updated. You all got this <3

Tyupmojo

I waited for Kingdom Hearts for YEARS, I can wait for the best piece of media that exists ever to update UvU

Kethzia Sanchez

One day they will come back....

Danifb

just coming back to send some love and support

dkc1002

Still sending lots of love for everyone involved in this

Kayroos

Yo, are things still happening?

Nick Dickerson

despite everything, homestuck is still my favorite thing. and it breaks my heart seeing nothing but bad news for it. a single tweet saying "we're still working on it", would mean the world to me. or "no, its over", would spare me a lot of false hope. I love all of you on this team, and hope nothing but the best for you.

jane

Hoping everyone in the team is doing alright! We love you <3

Kayroos

Hope everyone on the team is doing well!

Fiver

Two hours left from here, and so far nothing... RIP

Nick Dickerson

I wonder if anything will happen on 4/13 Hope the team is doing well.

professionalDork

Can we have John use his retcon powers and make the bad stuff go away?

My name is not important

I thank you for taking the time to write out your concerns. I am a very latecomer to the experience that is Homestuck but I have loved everything about it ever since I read the comic. I was also majorly late to this sequel and have been extremely disheartened to find out the issues this has had. It's only now from this message that I understand. I truly hope this story is able to come to A conclusion at some point and I wish the best to all involved with its production. <3

Cole Ruffalo

I don't mind a bigger cliffhanger if it means seeing more of Yiffy 😅

Jeff's girlfriend

Sometimes I think about the concept of this being cancelled but they still have a bunch of content that they've completed, so they release what they have. I hope they (you? idk if writers read this) consider this approach if need be.

Jeff's girlfriend

I hope the team is doing well. I still think about the epilogues/homestuck 2 often and how great they are. You all have made such wonderful work. I know the hatred and aggression has been so loud but I wanted to let you know I still truly love this story 💓

jade

I still enjoy and appreciate the work that all of you put into this story. I hope you're able to finish it one day, but even if that doesn't work out for whatever reason, I hope that all of you are able to have new creative and emotional experiences that are kinder and more fulfilling.

Fern Slater

Hope the team is doing alright. Hang in there yall. <3

professionalDork

It's sad how much of the fandom has reacted to the story. Personally, I really enjoy it. Jane's character arc--perhaps the most criticized thing I've seen--was actually my favorite part, though in part because I was enjoying my own horror of theory after theory coming true. God, I can't believe I actually predicted what would happen based only on hs proper... I'm only a newly returning member of the fandom, admittedly, so I don't know if my perspective has been wrung and worn out already, but I'm thinking about making some of my own analysis posts defending the most controversial story choices. I can see why people dislike them...but more importantly, I see why the characters went the direction they did. I think the reaction from the fandom may have been a result of people not being prepared for what a bold move it all was combined with echo chamber, even though it fits my personal understanding of the characters very well.

Disgustedorite

i hope we get a update soon i really liked the story

Incomprehensible Mituna

Hoping work is still being done on it... I can't exactly condone recent controversy but that is alll private business far as i am concerned and the fandom's general reaction is.... Yea this shit ain't second coming of cosby or anything. Overreaction after overreaction... I hope its being done still and i will wait.

lordoffantasy

a yearly dump of content would be pog. also like. i feel like we might deserve a little bit of an update please.

jane

Could we get a status update maybe?

Nick Dickerson

So I'm new to Homestuck. I only picked it up about a month ago. After binge reading it I'm finally at the end of all of the published content, and I feel like I've turned into the memes wanting to tell people about Homestuck, and also anxiously waiting for updates. I have to say I love Homestuck2, and I've enjoyed the way the story is going thus far.

Fursona Erchon

hope to see more of this someday.

lordoffantasy

Hey just coming back to show some love and hope that working without the fanbase over your shoulder is as relieving as I think it is. Hope you all are doing well 💙

Olivia Lynn

All I have to say is that I am very ashamed in a lot of the fanbase. Their behavior has been unacceptable lately. The few of us "true" fans left, with me gatekeeping true fandom to those who don't fucking harass yall- we really appreciate all you do for us. I truly enjoyed homestuck^2 so far, and the exploration of these new ideas.

izzy g.

I hope you guys have a better time after this. Its horrible that people harass you guys to such lengths. Take as long as you need to, and enjoy yourselves while making it!

Drago

Y'all take care of yourselves, I'm excited to see what you create <3

SporkleNibs

This is bull. You guys shouldn't have to put up with this. Thank you for all the effort you've done, and for what may be next to come.

My name is not important

Im glad this has happened, I have been very conflicted about continuing to pay £20 when im increasingly seeing other smaller patreon's who could benefit from my money just as much. I have always been waiting for things to get better and will do so still. The fact its free now will make doing so way easier and haters can no longer call me a Homestuck Consooomer for being paitient. I have faith that many of these writers had goals when it came to Homestuck 2 (IE: OptimisticDuelist's aim to present Jake's more likeable side which was underrepresented in the original comic) And I hope to see them eventually executed in a satisfying manner.

Maggcat

Fandoms suck, sorry about that. Be kind to yourselves, and know (for whatever it's worth) that I love the direction the story has been headed. Love you all.

CYR

Just wanted to drop by here too. Been here from the start and sad to see more things ruined. You still have my support and always will.

Sharla Williams

I might feel slight disappointment that there won't be regular updates, except that it's wholly outweighed by relief and joy that the people who work on HS2 will hopefully get a break from the unending waves of vitriol and negativity they face. It's been hard even to watch, so I can't imagine how hard it's been to live! I will always support y'all, even if you never update again. Thank you all for the joy and sincerity you've brought to us, and I wish y'all peace and healing <3

Nupur Maheshwari

Happy 413 Everyone <3

Tali Trinity

That's also the only way TO view this post in full.

Daniel McIntyre

Oh damn. Recently, I could feel that things were going rough behind the scenes, but it's still a real bummer to hear this result. :(

Done25

Always willing to support any Homestuck project. I've loved Homestuck for so many years and will die loving Homestuck. Thank you for giving us as much as you have regardless of people's opinions. I look forward to one day seeing the end of HS2 whenever and wherever it may end. Sorry it had to end up like this but if you ever need support whether it be kickstarter, merch, or patreon, I know many of us would voluntarily support your work on Homestuck again.

Tyupmojo

Though it's sad that's probably the best thing to do at this point, I still want to support your projects especially given all the headaches that happened with Hiveswap

wizardjack

I really had no idea people were ragging on hs^2 so hard. It's truly regrettable, and I just want you guys to know that I love homestuck and literally everything you guys have ever made. I've been reading the story and keeping tabs ever since the beginning, but I distanced myself from the fandom probably as soon as I had my first glimpse of them. Honestly their progression into further shitiness doesn't surprise me at all. I hate that they've basically chased you guys to posting things all at once like that. It's like throwing a live grenade into a hoard of rapid monkeys and running for it. I guess that means I get to have myself a nice little reading binge, though.

Gilbert Goch

im happy to keep paying, i like what you guys go going on with the fan fiction continuation aspect of hs^2 and really want to see how this connects to other things you've put out. honestly im aware this isnt for everyone and thats fine but i totally want to keep supporting its continuation since im defiantly in for it

JVman

Thank you Andrew for your kind words for the creators of HS2. Please pass on (if they do not monitor this and you do) that we are all here and excited for what they release. If this Patreon was to start charging again, myself and I’m sure many people here would not mind. Thank you all for everything you have done.

DDarksaber

Y'all are beautiful and deserve only love for all of the work you've done on Homestuck2! I'll always come back to this narrative! I don't want it to end!

Tali Trinity

This seems like such a tough decision you had to make and I'm glad the comic will be finished while still protecting the mental health of the creators, even if it takes awhile. Good luck and stay safe

Celeste Czarnecki

Hey, just so you know. You can still make an initial signup to the Patreon, by clicking on any of the locked posts. While this only requires a dollar minimum, if the goal is to no longer collect funds for the project you may want to look into that.

SMALL GOAT

I'm glad the project will live on, I really enjoyed Homestuck^2 so far and I'm sad the fandom is giving you guys so much grief, but that's fandoms for you, they can hardly ever handle change. All my love to the artists who are sticking with the project and know there are thousands out there that appreciate what you. <3

Marvin Fincke

Yeah when you harass people you might feel uncomfortable and disregarded and disrespected. it comes with the territory. Shifting to focus on "how people felt about someone" when you started talking about "valid criticisms" (implying something concrete) is telling.

JovialKnoll

Fandom really has to ruin good things huh. Regardless, I hope everyone in the team can take this time to lose the fandom's "aggro" as it were, and enjoy making their own continuation of Homestuck^2 into a satisfying product! Thanks for stepping in and helping your team out Hussie, very cool.

Darugo Sueño

Still shifting the blame to the victim.

Jekadu .

I’ve seem some negativity about Homestuck 2 for a while so I can see what you’re talking about. I still plan to support you guys how I can. I was just happy there was more Homestuck. It’s been my favorite fandom/story for over seven years. I plan to die on this ship lol. I hope people treat this work with more respect in the future. You have my support, and your team doesn’t deserve what they’ve gone through. I look forward to what you all do next. I’ll be waiting patiently.

Saint Valkyrie

This was notably all before the "Homestuck is intended for an 18+ audience" post, and she made kids feel uncomfortable and disregarded and disrespected. Feel free to think however you wanna think, but that never really sat right with me.

Roll+Weird

I deeply appreciate your approach to this and how you care for the people you work with; If this is the new direction I will patiently await the day that final update is released.

Gulfsquid

Kinda sad to hear we won't be getting updates anymore but as long as I get a finished story I'll be happy. I loved homestuck, I love HS^2, and I love you guys. Stay safe and let's finish this amazing story

Gabriel Guisgand

Really relieved that the project is still going at its own pace. Been a big fan of the continuation since it began and I hope the writers and artists involved can look back on this project fondly and still have fun making it. Thanks for everything y'all have given us!

Queen Snarf

I've always loved Homestuck and Homestuck^2 and always will. I'm disgusted by the people who've treated the creators this way. I've written a full reaction on Tumblr (https://blaperile.tumblr.com/post/643115418172669952/i-just-read-andrew-hussies-patreon-post-and) - Blaperile

Blaperile_plainWonder

I have fully supported this project from the beginning, best of luck to you all. You're doing great work. <3

Florian

It's like the whole irony thing. If you 'ironically' do a thing you will soon be 'unironically' doing it.

Dante Crossing

im sorry someone thinks differently than you about vriska? im sorry they were rude about a non-issue? im not sure what this is supposed to prove

Daft

May you all keep your sanity about you, and fuck the haters.

McZed

It seems every webcomic I get into goes on hiatus after a month. Edit: Wow I had a bunch of passive agressive stuff here, just stay safe guys. Stay your morale safe too.

Lisa Artz

And thus HS^2 succumbed to the inevitable fate of reschedulings, delays and pauses as we all expected with dread it would. Some were still hoping that the curse lays only on the original HS but for most of us the sad truth became apparent, in the times when we still waited for Hiveswap act 2, that this curse is no more escapable than Red Miles themselves.

Apuis Retsam

I’ll miss you folks, but I’m glad we know we’ll meet again at some point

Full Blown Marxism

I'll miss the weekly upd8s, but I'm glad the team will get some way to work on this peace. Stay safe, and be well.

jacob

sounds like a good plan, take as long as you all like making stuff should be fun. love this comic so far :)

hay

I’ve waited before and I’ll wait again, take all the time you need and I’m sorry the team had to endure this kind of treatment, thank you for doing all you’ve done

Derek Blakely

I'm sorry to hear this. Homestuck 2 was enjoyable and those fans sound awful. I hope everyone is able to find peace.

Violet CLM

I had a feeling things would go to shit when I kept seeing people just constantly... dump on it. It's been kind of weird, honestly? Like, they go absolutely crazy over the weirdest things... even coming from the perspective of a fan that's been around since '11, it's like the Homestuck Is Trash memes got internalized and taken like... way too seriously or something. It's bizzare, and disappointing. Ah well, it was a good run! I enjoyed it. Thanks y'all~

Dizzy Valiel

I am so pissed at the way the team has been treated... it's okay to not agree with the direction the story takes or the way some characters are rendered or whatever... But abusing the creators is NOT. Never. Under any circonstances! It's fine that they are taking time to make the rest of the story happen, and I think we will all have a better experience as readers if themselves are having a good time making it. I personnally really enjoyed what has been done so far! I hope everyone take care of themselves. We'll be waiting <3

Maë

Y'all are doing great work imo and I've loved this evolution of the HS narrative. I hope y'all are safe and healthy, keep kicking ass on your own terms <3

SporkleNibs

This really makes me sad. I love Homestuck^2 just the way it is. I wish people had been nicer. The episodic story telling has been very fun I really liked it. I wish people who didn't like some could just, go read something else. I would really love to continue to support the development if there is any way I can do that.

Willow

It's so sad the way the fanbase has treated the team, it really breaks my heart. I hope releasing the full comic later is a better process for you guys, and good luck on all your future projects!

Vivian Irby

I had a feeling this was a possibility, but I am not active enough on social media to see these kinds of things. I only hope the team can work on and finish the project in a way that they enjoy without all the bullshit.

acloudwithfeet

She also left like, what, half a year ago? Mainly because of the harassment, which is definitely not justified whether or not her actions were. It's time to move on.

Ben Godlewski

So very glad you're putting the well-being of the team first. Looking forward to it and thanks for all the memories <3

Ben Godlewski

I'm sad to see this happen, I think I've been supporting the Patreon since November 2019 (maybe early December)

leo60228

a shame this has had to happen but imo it's the right decision. not a single one of you deserved any of the hate you got and i hope you're all okay and you can enjoy finishing this story <3 Homestuck (both the "original" and Beyond Canon) has helped me so much with coming to terms with my own trauma and identity and even learning how to handle relationships (or in most cases, how not to handle them heh) and i'm honestly so happy i was able to support this new project. i look forward to the rest when it comes! have fun making it and stay safe and strong <3

Ci Davies

Sad to see the Ultimapause, but fair. I look forward to seeing the story on the other side. ❤

Bill

I think the argument against that is the toxic update culture. It's easier for criticism to get messy when the end goal/point isn't known, which was part of the main issue here. Personally, I'm just thinking about it like the anticipated release of a book or graphic novel.

Malachite

For anyone reading convinced by this assclown, the photos were blurred, behind a paywall, and posted to Kate’s personal Twitter. That is to say, it’s nobody’s goddamn business but her and their financial supporters. Slut shaming/ sex work shaming in 2021 is fucking dated bro

Ollie

I hate to see this kind of thing directed at the team. All for the high crime of making something interesting, instead of more of the same. Fan adventures - wonderful in their own way - with some of the same people working on them, get hailed as being "more Homestuck" than HS^2, almost more as a dunk on the latter than as praise. It always makes my stomach turn a little bit.

Nekkowe!

ive seen Fractions of the hate online whenever i try to look at fanart, so i can only IMAGINE how much youve all recieved directly, and im SO SO sorry that people are attacking you so. ive loved everything youve all created for the story so far, and you all deserve to get as much peace and joy as you can while you continue. <3

Princess Aridan Jayce

In the past I've protested about 'lack of transparency' on the patreon. While I never said anything abusive or harassed individuals, I still feel bad for harping on about a relatively unimportant matter as much as I did. So I want to apologise for that. Homestuck^2 has been incredibly fun, a breath of fresh life into Homestuck. Thanks for creating something that's made me smile and laugh every month. I hope you can find similar joy in the project again . Or really, that the abuse lessens - I know it never truly stops.

Darel Halgarth

I've known about the negative criticism but I find it extremely upsetting that it ever reached this point of harassment. I find the thought of ever expecting Homestuck^2 to be the same as Homestuck to be ridiculous in the first place and it's really unfair to the creators because OBVIOUSLY it's not going to be the same - it was never even supposed to be. HS^2 honestly does an amazing job at following the original series while still being a thing of its own, and I've genuinely enjoyed every single update so far. It obviously sucks that we won't be getting updates for what I assume to be a long time, but I find pausing the updates to be a logical decision considering the state of the fandom (+ anyone else who attacks the team for literally no reason). I really, truly hope this serves as an opportunity for the team to get a break from all of that; they haven't done anything to deserve this harassment. On a lighter note, I'd like to be able to support the project even without getting any extra benefits, so it would be great if there were still a way to donate while the Patreon is frozen. I'll be looking forward to any news, and I wish the team the very best going forward. Know that despite all the bullying you've been on the receiving end of, there are still many people who support and love you for all the work you put into this project, both up till now and in the future <3

Krabkat

Thanks a lot for the update! I suppose doing it like this is a good way to avoid the hate. I've noticed these "trends" even in the fandom and it made me really sad, as I find HS2 a really enjoyable story. I hope you can keep us updated via Patreon though, because it would be a bit sad not to hear from the project for a very long time.

Jana Nathaniel Intora

i shall wait and see how it happens but... i kinda hope you guys don't post it all at once cause that is gonna be a lot to digest at once. As a guy who has been supporting this since day 1, i say that when it done, release chapters on the weekly so we can eat it a bite at a time rather than force feed ourselves.

lordoffantasy

i cannot say that i am happy about this but i can understand it. it has just been a wall of negativity with some new bullshit happening after the other. Maybe it was the shitty year we've had, maybe it was just immaturity, but... i really really hate that its come to this. i was so enjoying being a part of of the upd8tes for the first time, i came in long after homestuck finished. Now i gotta wait........ the thing is flawed, i ain't gonna lie, but everyone kept on exaggerating the flaws and kept on stirring up the drama more.... i part of me just wants to see how the thing continue to update and for me to continue to support it.

lordoffantasy

This is a shame, the last few updates in HS^2 had me really excited and I was loving the direction the candy storyline was going. Stay safe everyone, I look forward to reading the final conclusion, whenever that might be.

Theostopheles

You can seek out the personal patreons of the team members and pledge to them

Your Resident Homestuck Guy, Gumba Masta

I hope everyone on the team stays safe. Being a Homestuck fan from the start and realizing my own journey of being trans, it was refreshing to see that portrayed in Homestuck^2. It saddens me that not everyone feels positively about this, and I'm glad you are putting everyone's safety first. Bullying and discrimination unfortunately don't stop as you get older, and it hurts to see something that helped me cope with those issues as a child now affect those who work on it when I'm an adult. Know that everything you, the current team of Homestuck^2, and everyone who contributed to Homestuck have inspired me and many others to move forward each day. Thank you all for being a part of my life, and I wish you all "all the luck" as you finish this story.

Mattie Dziejma

Allow me to quote a Cracked article about Gamergate for a moment: "Editor's Note: A few weeks ago our message board and general inbox were bombarded with demands we address something called the "GamerGate Scandal", posts written with the urgency and rage one would associate with, say, discovering that Chipotle burritos are made entirely from the meat of human babies. It's apparently a big deal in some circles, so we followed the links and read the piles of data presented, and had to stop and take a deep breath just to grasp it all. "Gentlemen," we said amid the stunned silence, "do you realize that if what they're saying is true, then this is still the most pointless fucking bullshit anyone has ever forced us to read?"" This is pointless fucking bullshit and good grief, grow up.

Jekadu .

i feel like im being selfish by asking but will the bonus stories get finished too? id love to see Jane’s redemtion arc <3 Also is there any tea on HiveSwap?

L0n3 Duo

i've been loving reading homestuck^2 so much, and it's deeply saddening that it's come to this. it's not fair to the people working so hard on this project that the homestuck fandom is so mean. homestuck^2 was never meant to be homestuck, and that's why it's so special.. it has the feeling of homestuck while also being its own thing entirely, and it's such a fun read!! i hope that the team can make something that's just as good as it has been so far, and i hope that they can enjoy doing it. i'd gladly continue my pledge even if i wasn't getting any monthly updates or anything honestly!! anyway this is kinda rambly because i'm typing it on my phone and can't see how much i'm typing lol. if anyone from the team is reading this, thank you for working on homestuck^2, and i look forward to seeing the end result <3

luminaryFlowers

I was aware of a few comments here and there that were shitty but christ I didn't think it was THIS bad. I'm sorry that this was what you all as a team came to decide on but I will always support you. Thank you for all of the hard work you have put in so far and ESPECIALLY all the incredible work I know you'll all be doing in the future. I don't care how long I have to wait - I'll absorb the rest of the series like a sponge when it comes out. It's a fantastic project and haven't hated a single chapter yet. Love you all <3

David Raymond Gibellin

I can only echo what so many others have said: it's sad that things have come to this point. I absolutely support taking whatever steps seem necessary to protect the artists involved. I'll miss the updates here, but I'm heartened to hear there are plans to see the work to completion. Much love to everyone involved with the project.

William Cole

I love you all!!! I want to help if I can. I can't wait for the day when Ultimate Dirk shows his face online again.

Romulus

When things seem really bleak and I feel like there's nothing to look forward to, thinking about where homestuck^2 was going made me excited to see tomorrow. I'm really grateful for everyone's hard work and am very happy to have been a patron. I'm still excited to see where it goes whenever it's finished. You all don't deserve the hate you get and it's a shame that the fandom has become so intolerable. Thanks for everything, I hope you all are able to find joy in the creative process with the new freedom from schedules :)

Isaac Alexander

I’ve loved every chapter of HS^2, I love how different it is from the source, how much love the team had put into it, how expansive the world has gotten with the bonus content, all of the canon kids who are WILDLY different and way better than anything I expected, and just everything about this team and story. I’d love to say that I’m shocked by how people in this fandom have treated the team behind HS^2 but unfortunately this doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. I hope that finishing the project outside of the public eye brings the joy back into your work, and I hope that you’ll open up a ko-fi or something soon because I’d love to keep donating to the project! I can’t wait to see how the story ends, I’ve loved it so far and I hope you guys have a great time finishing it 💖

Erica Malca

I would as well. Hell, I keep throwing money at the screen but it's not working! Why isn't it working!?

Totally Not Alpha

I get a lot of stuff in my inbox from Patreon, but I think this one might be the saddest (I don't mean "pathetic", I mean "heart-sinking" sad). The fact that you've all been dealing with hate over Homestuck of all things is just painful to hear. Homestuck has always been about the fun from day 1, to see so many people being attacked for not following the lore of a canon where one of the main protagonist's defining features is a love of "Con-Air", it makes you think about a lot of shit. You guys did amazing, absolutely amazing. It's funny, Hussie said that he wanted you all to do something different with Homestuck^2, but by doing exactly that you all really stuck to what Homestuck is about, and that's being something new, and odd, and unformulaic. I'm gonna miss the regular updates, I won't lie, but if the cost is everyone on the team having that same fun they set out to have at the beginning, then that's what needs to happen. Even if that means that Homestuck^2 just doesn't get finished, then that's how the cookie crumbles, and I don't regret subscribing and throwing my money at a talented team of creative people who really did put their best foot forward. Thank you all for your work, down to even the smallest contribution. I like to think that, at the end of the day, the Patreon isn't ending, it's just following Homestuck tradition by outdoing the GigaPause. Here's to the InfiniPause, so long, and thanks for all the Faygo.

Totally Not Alpha

I appreciate all you and the team have put out. Ever since I first picked up homestuck I knew I was in for the long Haul. I want to thank Aysha, pip, taz xmag as well as the rest of the crew for putting in their time and effort. I love their work and hope to see more of it down the line.

Dante Crossing

The big man really sat us down for the heart to heart.

Dustin Vantas

As would I.

Dante Crossing

why do you feel entitled to getting art that conforms to your definition of good? and before you say "many/most people are saying its bad" does that justify hindering the artistic integrity of the work for the people that like it how it is?

jane

Anyway, much love to everyone involved. You've done a fantastic job with HS^2 and don't let anyone take that away from you. :)

Jekadu .

i cant wait to see it when it's finished!

Casper

i cant speak for all patrons but i would be happy to continue paying to support this project

dkc1002

I know we cannot speak for every patron but we would honestly be fine at paying at the $5 level indefinitely until the project is completed. We really care about these characters and the representation and the creative process.

Kaelyn & Ria

This is completely understandable, and I'm sad that things got so bad. Watching people get so excited to work on the project only to drop it completely because of the harassment was dismaying to watch, at the least. I hope everyone is okay and enjoys the rest of the work!!! This was a very thoughtful letter. Good luck everyone!!!!! <3

Xan

My wife and I have been enjoying homestuck and homestuck 2 immensely. As an emby and transgender woman seeing the representation and our own comunity members make this work has meant a lot Andrew. We have been supporting since the first month I believe or near to it. Thank you for making this decision. We look forward to it!

Kaelyn & Ria

It's a story, you don't have to read it. "I'm glad it's no longer being made" is just... do you not understand how awful you are being right now?

Jekadu .

I am saddened to hear this, but I understand. Is there any way one can go about to keep supporting the team and/or What Pumpkin financially? Homestuck has meant an incredible deal to me in the past decade and I really, truly want to give back whatever little I can.

Jekadu .

Andrew's carried a successful "when was the last time I did anything wrong" trollingly-adversarial-to-the-audience attitude off well for years and years, and if you're willing to criticize Kate for it that means you were fine with it when Andrew did it. I've heard criticism of Kate *floated* but... complaining about Kate doing the same sort of thing just because she was a bit more accessible on social media seems odd.

BlastYoBoots

Mhmm, I thought Dirk here might've had a point for a moment, and then I browsed through this image compilation they posted and I reconsidered. Why are any of these seen as damning behavior from... *checks notes* ...the personal twitter of some artist who works on a project?? It reads like a condemnation from someone who's never seen Twitter before, much less Andrew's trolling responses to inquiries throughout... *checks notes* --the about-third of Homestuck's development for which you could actually get criticism to him.

BlastYoBoots

I have to agree with everyone else, it's sad things came to this but you gotta do what's best for your people. Looking forward to seeing the finished thing, and to the next stage of Homestuck!

Nick Dickerson

You guys did an amazing job, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. If there's anyway to still financially support the team id be willing to support!

stoicParamour

Fruz

It's really unfortunate that it even had to come to this. It sucks when people attack the creators of a work just because they don't enjoy what they are doing with it. I really enjoy HS^2 and I am glad to see it is still going to be finished. It is unfortunate that it is going to be done it private but I totally understand. Excited for the final product! hope you all stay safe!

Keeks

I've really loved the story and looked forward to it's completion. I've been reading homestuck since I was young and I learned so much from it. It makes me the happiest and most emotional. I thank you guys for all the hard work and will continue to dedicate myself to this fandom and story till I die. I wish you all the best going forward!!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

Paisley Dodge

i would prefer to have a handful of updates a year but the creator's safety is more important. im so disappointed in the fandom that it came to this. im very proud that the project and hussie are sticking to their roots and creating art for the sake of art, not for money of popularity.

jane

thank you to the team I wish it was under better circumstances but I hope it ends up the way you guys wanted to. I'm looking forward to the complete project

cckiller

I've been enjoying HS^2 greatly, I think it's a great project and the story so far is very intriguing. Is it what I expected? No. But that's what's nice about taking in content from different creators, it's all different, refreshing perspectives. It's very upsetting to hear you and your team have been getting abuse from people who don't even contribute to your project, and this course of action is understandable, especially since it's for the protection of your crew. I look forward to the series completion, but I'm perfectly fine with waiting if it means the safety and sanity of the team that's working on it. Thanks for sticking to it and I hope there is some other way us fans can continue to contribute to and support the project.

Kiernan

slut shaming in 2021 feels a bit dated.

JovialKnoll

yup that sure seems like a bunch of people dogpiling someone who doesn't want to talk to them. Pretty sad.

JovialKnoll

It takes a lot to handle this fandom. They keep screeching and screeching for attention like toddlers. Sometimes the screeching gets too loud and you have to pay attention to them. Other times the screeching is from someone unrelated and all you can do is ignore it or walk away. I sincerely hope the artists can come to forgive (ignore) these toddlers who refuse to mature. I will eagerly await for the time this story unfolds once again, for its one Ive kept for so many years. Whats a year or two more of waiting, right?

NeoPhantom

I hope the entire team does whatever they need to for their own well being, and also want to say that I've been consistently thrilled with the content so far. I would love to financially contribute to future development if you think that's viable again at some point. I hope only for good things for everyone involved.

JovialKnoll

I agree. :(

Daisy

As someone who’s been a fan of MSPA/Homestuck for over a decade now, I felt so blessed by the existence of a Homestuck sequel! HS^2 is brilliantly written and I enjoy it even more for how its writing diverges from the style of OG Homestuck. Both comics have brought me a lot of joy, excitement, and comfort — especially in quarantine! — and I am grateful for the work everyone’s put in so far. I appreciate the team’s willingness to see this thing through to the end because I love this thing very much. It really sucks to see/hear that the HS^2 team has received so much abuse. If there is a way for me to continue supporting the insanely talented team writing this comic, I would be more than happy to do so.

Max (swordguy)

I'm really enjoying HS^2 and am quite dismayed that it’s going to be quite a while before we see the end (OR ANY CLASSPECT CONFIRMATIONS/ DECONFIRMATIONS AAAGH), but understand from personal experience that people’s emotional states are fuel reservoirs that are easy to burn and exhaust, especially based on team dynamics, subject matter and the state of the world. So I hope those who continue working on Homestuck^2 over the next while can deliver it to us for the least emotional cost. I don't think most works of fiction are worth wringing significant pain out of the creators. There will be some sort of crosspost of some of this news to the Homestuck twitter and the site itself when possible right? Not just here? To give some level of this information to those not already subscribed here (and since it's impossible TO subscribe now)? Though I understand if you can't get into the accounts right away without the cooperation of people over long distance.

BlastYoBoots

I just genuinely like HS for what it is, HS, Candy & Meat, HS^2, was overall an enjoyable read because I personally just take it for what it is with no uhh, expectation so to speak. In the sense that, I've seen some people on twitter for example have some visceral negative reaction because it was not something they expected or like, *wanted* to happen, that the way they word it sounds so... pompous as if they would do a better job. It really bugs me to see people be so negative in that way, as I have just been having fun and enjoying the read, so of course with that I appreciate and thank everyone who is working on HS^2, and I agree & like the decision to finish because everyone worked very hard on it and it just sucks to see ones work cut short or stopped. I genuinely hope everyone working on the story is able to enjoy as they finish it.

Jayden Sai

Absolutely miserable thing to read, but I can't pretend it's surprising. I massively appreciate your commitment to telling stories that were not only compelling, but also challenging. Glad to hear it will be completed and excited to follow it through the end.

MBT Yu-Gi-Oh!

Much love to the creators. I've not been able to read hs^2 as much as I'd like, but I am so proud to support those that work on it. Thank you all for being wonderful and pouring your love into homestuck. I love you all~

.(ɔ)

Thanks for standing up for the team.

Greg V.

It's all good, you do what you have to for your team and I'm glad they have you looking out for them. The last year has been pretty insane and the abuse the writing staff has been put through is honestly one of the saddest things I've ever seen. I hope they'll be able to enjoy writing in peace, I'm looking forward to the day it's completed. Until then, have fun :)

kaleidoscopeMediator

I dont have a twitter or hardly any social media due to how shitty it is, especially with fandom toxicity such as steven universe in the past, etc, and Ive also not been among anybody else who appreciates homestuck, but Ive always loved homestuck and every bit of content. I defs understand why this is happening and hope Im not too late to join, and as someone who found homestuck in the gigapause, Im more than happy to wait and see :) thanks for looking out for everyone, n to all the content creators, youre awesome ^^

Brittany Kay

As someone who did follow this & enjoy it, today is a little sad for me. I do appreciate the decision that you're making though, & feel generally pretty bad for what the writing staff has gone though the past year. I look forward to the day it is finished, & wish the whole team well throughout whatever they do.

Echo

Sad to hear, but I respect the decision

Mike

well this is all a bit depressing :(

Lewis Wood

its actually been pretty difficult being in the homestuck fandom since hs^2 started. the fans have definitely been overcritical to the point of ridiculousness. there were definitely times when the writers made mistakes, but the fans took Punishing them for those mistakes to a whole new level. i'm really glad you're all trying to finish the project in private - that's honestly the best thing that i could have hoped for! i was worried that the writers had gone off the project bc of how much hate they got for it. i just really hope they can enjoy writing the rest of it, and i look forward to reading it when its out! :)

Hawke

As someone who is very active in the fandom and is working on many Homestuck related fan projects, I've been in conversations with many "fans" that are just so needlessly disrespectful of the new content and it's creators. While there are valid criticisms to be sure, there is a level of hostility that is clearly rooted in their hatred and uncomfortability with transgender representation, whether it be the characters or the creators. And with all the hatred I've seen for the team from just being an active member in the fandom, I can't imagine what it must be like to be the person being hated. While I've personally greatly enjoyed the comic so far, I completely understand why you would make this decision, and I look forward to the finished product when it is eventually completed. My only regret in this situation is that I can no longer support the creation of this comic financially. Thank you for your hard work on this project, and remember that even though the haters must feel like the majority, there's a larger number of people that genuinely enjoy Homestuck^2, they are just much less outspoken and less likely to give feedback.

Camyosh

Honestly this is such a relief. It sucks being part of a fandom that’s becoming a ‘hatedom’ or whatever, I can only imagine how much it must suck to actually be receiving the abuse. I love hs^2, and I’m definitely willing to wait for it. The real people working on the story are more important than anything else, and I’m glad that’s the perspective you’re taking here. Much love to fellow trans and non-binary people on the team, I for one really appreciate the rep in hs^2, and *can* wait to see more! 💙💗🤍💗💙

Dani

hey, is there going to be any way to continue to contribute financially to the development of homestuck^2? i really love the story it's told/is telling, and i want to help get more of it out there.

heroboof

The only workable decision. People should not have to suffer in order to create their art, nor suffer for having created it. It's kinda sad that the only really decent conversations we can have about HS these days are on carefully curated discord servers. I could be all "what does this teach us about the society these harassers grow up in" but nobody has the privilege to actually be concerned about that these days. It just occured to me while writing this that the way we keep ourselves safe on the net is pretty much in sync with how we have to keep ourselves safe from the rona. What cruel god is writing this story... Be safe, keep your friends safe. Everyone is stressed enough as it is. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if, when it finally comes out, the writers/artists involved don't want to be credited for the first X weeks. Just like HiveSwap Act 2. I still think that was a good move.

Tinokel

I appreciate you guys. Thank you for all you do. Please stay safe out there.

elendraug

(And I say that with love, because I know cool stuff awaits us)

harriet

very on brand with homestuck I think, waiting endlessly for new content haha this is PRECISELY what I have signed up for

harriet

I wish you folks all the best! I'm so disappointed to hear about the harassment but I suppose I should have known that there were such nasty shitters out there. Thanks for the ride so far!

Eirdwen

I just became a patron a few days ago so now I feel like I cursed this timeline lmao. Sorry to hear that the team has been having a rough time. I love hs^2 and I can’t wait to see it finished some time in the future. Stay safe and good luck!!!

harriet

http://imgur.com/a/h5Rp6tf

Roll+Weird

Kate posted links to nudes on main, called people who didn't agree with her pigshits, and overall brought a negative energy to the project. I feel like simplifying it to "people picked on her because she's trans" undercuts valid criticisms because that's the end all and clearly she was "always in the right" because she "did nothing wrong"

Roll+Weird

i'm very glad it's getting finished and that steps ar e being taken to protect the team. i think this is the best possible option. i've enjoyed this project so far, and i think you'll all do a great job! reddit is a shithole and they hate literally everything

Jared Perry

I wish all of you the best! I've loved everything homestuck^2 has put out, but the amount of harrasment really was utterly inhumane. I support this decision all the way. I look forward to seeing what the team makes, however long it takes. I hope everyone has a good one, and a well deserved rest. <3

Lucabyte

well damn, still extremely looking forward to seeing more from it all!

Heather Turcich

I'm so glad HS^2 isn't getting canceled.

Fotu

I'm sad to see that this is what this all resulted in, but if this means that the team will no longer be subjected to daily harassment from the very same people they're working to put this content out for, then I will definitely continue to support the project and wish everyone the best moving forward. Thank you for all the work so far, and for what is sure to come <3

localbeefcake

Sad to hear this, but I think it's the better choice.

Byron

I truly wish to everybody working on Homestuck^2 the best of luck. I am quite frustrated and disappointed that the horrible side of the fandom has boiled over to the point where it is now. Good luck <3 (Sidenote question: Will this include the patreon only side stories? Or will those be left unfinished due to the main priority being finishing the main project?)

Gwen (Wolfvi)

...good point, I think

Jeff's girlfriend

sad about this. Very relieved it's probably continuing though. Thank you (plural you) for giving us such a nice story so far.

Jeff's girlfriend

im honestly disapointed in the fandom, no im fucking sick with how this fandom has acted and how it came down to this if theres anyway to donate to the team without being via the patron that'd be nice to know i want to continue to support hs2's development

June Serket

im saddened by this news but im glad that the project is still going to be completed. thank you for doing what had to be done.

Viralsiren

so glad that the team's wellbeing is the main priority. have always loved the project and wishing you all the best in finishing this and whatever you work on next ♥

jade

Thank you for the sincere explanation. Much love to the team, I hope y’all stay safe and are able to enjoy working on this project, whatever form it may take ❤️

Melody Anne Rórdán

It's been heartbreaking to see how some fans have treated the team, this is completely understandable. Please take care of yourselves, and thanks for all that you do for Homestuck^2. I have loved following the updates as they've come out and am looking forward to the day the rest of this is done.

C. Victor Ford

hoping the best for this project and all involved with it. from day 1, i've never been a fan of it's direction, but i respect it as a piece of art, and i've come to regret the harsh and juvenile remarks i've made on it since it's reveal. as you said, i truly hope the team enjoys and is able to be proud of the work that goes into completing homestuck^2. happy to have been a patron in the short time i was one.

tempest2k

Unfortunate that things reached this point but this sounds like the best resolution going forward. Best of luck to those still working on the project.

Gecko

so what you're saying is that we're in some kind of big pause, like, a million or even a billion pauses all happening at once really appreciating what the team has done so far, whenever it completes I'll be there

Elias Forslind

wish the best to you and the team! keep it up ^w^

Museium

I can’t wait to see how this ends and hope everyone is making the story they want to make and are having a good time doing it.

Tyler Belmont

I think this is probably the right call, but still, it's heartbreaking. I really loved HS^2, and it's repulsive the way the creative team were treated the whole time. I wish it didn't have to end like this, but no one deserves the kind of abuse I saw being hurled at the team.

Corv Leary

Even if I read homestuck for the first time in December it has become something really important for me. And when I discovered the sequel it was something amazing to read. I want to say thanks to all the team working on it from me and my friends from Spain. Thanks for making this amazing job and I hope you don't keep suffering this harassment.

Linkmidna

I'm glad you decided to do what was best for the team. It would have been painful to see how harsh and abusive criticism would have affected the story- Homestuck (well, storytelling in general!) should be all about having a good time; that's how it started, after all! I'm personally sad I won't get that monthly adrenaline rush that is upd8, but knowing it will be completed just means I'll get a bigger one on the day the release comes! <333 Good luck to all the creators; have some laughs and don't take it too seriously! It's been a fun ride for me so far! : D Lots of love!

Ena-Malika Børve

ive seen enough of fandoms to consider this very understandable ^^ I look forward to the finished project, whatever form it may end up, and I also look forward to everyone in the team's future projects, hopefully less.. .toxic

Yoann Bourse

Hope it works out. Excited to see further stuff. Thanks for letting us know, and making something neat!

William Thompson

The Bonus Updates are free now

Your Resident Homestuck Guy, Gumba Masta

well dang

Michael Lewis

Absolutely understand. It's disgusting seeing 'fans' who attack the team bringing us such a fantastic new story. I hope what words of encouragement we can offer will help raise their spirits, but online Fandom is such a polluted place. I know I just wanted to support the writers that have continued one of my favorite universes. Thanks so much!

Mark Godec

I think this is a very good call. Giving my best to you and the team. Homestuck has been a huge part of my life and growth and it sucks watching folks who love it and work on it take such abuse.

Callie Strilondian

Sucks that this had to happen, but you should really consider opening the patreon back up to those who’d like to donate anyways. I’ve followed homestuck since I was a kid and I’d like to monetarily support the team in whatever capacity I can. If it makes your lives easier it’s the least I could do for creating such amazing content. I’ve been around since I was 14, and I just turned 21 today. Just consider it please. Thank you.

Emmanuel

Honestly, after all the abuse you guys have seen from your “fans” this is more than fair, I wish the team all the best going forward

Monkinkin

This seems like a good idea for the well being of everyone involved. Thank you for the update and my heart goes out to the creative team, whose story I’ve enjoyed immensely thus far <3

Claire French

Very sorry to hear this has gone down like this. If there's ways for us to contribute please let us know. I have seen similar ugliness in all my fandoms in the past few years and is really upsetting.

Cryo

Soo, what does this mean for those patron-exclusive tie-in stories? Will those be made available to the public now? It only seems fair.

Meron JM

Thanks for this update Andrew. I'm grateful to take part of your thoughts on the matter.

Humla Karlsson

Thank you for the update and for the very decisive measures. This was clearly a difficult decision to make, but it's heartening to hear that you're putting the safety and well-being of the team first and foremost. There's such an expectation in the arts and media world of putting the work before the artist (and I say this as someone who's been in these industries for over a decade) - and that's without including toxic fandom behaviours in the mix. I'm so sorry to hear about the abuse your team has faced that has affected their enjoyment of the project. I hope they'll be able to find more projects and spaces that will support them and fulfil them like you have, without the audience toxicity. Good luck with it all!

Creatrix Tiara

Hey, thanks for the post. It absolutely sucks that it had to come to this, but I'm ultimately so glad that a decision was made with the best interests of the creators and team for Homestuck^2 at heart. Much respect to you and this team.

SAGE

Godspeed, I hope it works out better somehow

Retrospecter