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Kizumonogatari Part 3: Reiketsu // Reaction and Discussion

Kizumonogatari Part 3: Reiketsu // Reaction and Discussion

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Idk how you came to that conclusion, the presentation is a lot harder to swallow in Monogatari compared to Mushoku Tensei. Mushoku brings up more controversial topics, but it mostly takes them seriously and doesn't fetishize the topics. Meanwhile, Nise will manage to make a teeth-brushing scene extremely lewd. Anyway, I love them both so personally idc.

Doodlegame

Exactly, bc they don't read comments People "telling them" there doesn't count lol but they have mods and it is kinda stupid to go that blind into this kind of series. It is not a big deal but knowing how they do their analysis and hearing their discussions I'm sure that being aware for example that this is a light novel will make them appreciate way more the anime.

Ecodude

Is there a possibility of lowering the price of the tier if you only do one episode per month?

Limini

They watched mushoku tense to the end, nise is kind of nothing against that

Limini

yea i think monogatari in its whole is a collection of ppl telling their stories. That's why the novel order jumps around in time a lot. Also i like the fact that we don't see any of the araragi and senjo date stuff is because araragi wants to keep that part private so he doesnt tell us.

TheMightyAnt

To me personally I wanted that they skip nisemonogatari. I know that it is important but I prefer that they skip this part instead of a possibility to drop when they are watching. I want so much to see they react to the other seasons, and nise has so many weird scenes that I have fear that they could drop.

Gabriel Tavares

Both got manga adaptions after the anime had been a success

Limini

Worth the wait. Glad to see you're coming back

menelito

Thank you so much for the reaction guys! This is peak, these movies are incredibly good and you add an extra layer.

pepe

Also worth mentioning that studio Shaft has animated both Monogatari and Madoka Magica so drawing parallels to them is no coincidence. Madoka was an original anime series and the monogatari series is based off the light novels. Just some fun facts

Sage Moon

Once again I LOVE hearing you guys' analysis. I especially liked how you said Kizu was like araragi finally feeling comfortable in sharing that story after the events in episode 15 of bake. I never thought of it like that and it makes so much sense! Love how you didn't just dismiss the shed scene as needless fanservice either and found merit in what it was trying to do. Excellent reaction and discussion as always and I look forward to Nisemonogatari next. It's gonna be a good one

Sage Moon

PEAK

Vladi

i think understanding araragi thru bake is necessary to understand his decisions in kizu, and im glad yall are doing it in this order. nisemonogatari (fake story) is up next!

Wendy

can't wait for the next installment of monogatari! Thx guys

Alexander Joseph Cruz

You might be correct that the fanservice moments in Nise disrupt the pacing. I'd have to rewatch it to see how bad it is. It's been a while and I guess I might have remembered only the good parts, lol. It's tough to say which arc is the weakest. Personally I think I would go with Tsuki, just because it's the least memorable and impactful one for me. I've also rewatched it the least amount of times. The first half of Owari first season has to be my favorite. I love the introspective nature of it and there hasn't been a character in fiction that I've empathized with more than with Sodachi. The main thing I look for in stories in general are "real" and complex characters that I might resonate or empathize with. I like when stories leave me with something to think about after experiencing them, or when they challenge my views. As stupid as it might sound, Monogatari taught me life lessons that I'll probably never forget, which I didn't expect would happen when it was described to me as a "wacky" and "problematic but fun" story.

Gromzi

Gooning for Re:Zero, crossing my fingers it'll be next

smth positive_

It's not a bad arc, just compared to the other ones (not counting the newest season, I haven't seen it yet) I feel like they dig a bit deeper. But that's just personal opiniom, depending on preferences in what people look for in Monogatari a lot of people disagree or agree either way. I think if they would have turned down the fanservice a bit they could have told nise more effectively, the fanservice often takes away from the moment, like when marvel movies do the "well, that just happened" after an emotional moment. It just takes you right out of it. Bake (and the rest of the series) has a lot of fanservice as well but I think it's just used better in those cases (shows araragis perspective, adds artistic composition, comedic moment) I feel like they interrupt the narrative less and are instead more incorporated into the story. Not sure how to express it. Nise is a good arc just not the best and there are plenty of fanservice moments that work but also plenty that don't, in my opinion. What's your favorite/least favorite arc? What do you look for in Monogatari?

Limini

An excellent birthday surprise

davyjones

I'm really impressed that they've noticed and discussed how meaningful the order of these stories is, and that the order is dictated by Araragi so experiencing it in a way that was intended also gives you insight into his character. Great stuff.

Gromzi

I don't think the story is at its weakest in Nise. The main theme of fakes in Nise is really strong and important for showing how Araragi views himself by making him confront Karen and her reckless sense of justice that he supposedly "grew out of". We find out more about Senjouhagara by seeing her interact with Kaiki. I also like Kaiki's philosophy on fakes. "Sometimes the fake can be more real than the real thing". I guess people get a bit stunlocked by the "fanservice" scenes and can't appreciate the good stuff in this arc.

Gromzi

It's not just overly lewd (how did you forget the toothbrushscene) but also the incest that makes people stop watching. The "usual" Fanservice shots also get ramped up by 30% at least. I can fully understand anyone who stops watching when they amp up the fan service, especially when the story is at it's weakest and gets even weaker bc of it.

Limini

People did, multiple times. For one reason or another, Autosave does not read comments.

♫ If your ho wife ain't treatin' ya right, come up and see ol' Dan, I'll rock'em, sock'em in the face, I am from the 60s, man ♪

NISIOISIN is easily the best japanese LN/Manga author... Like, the mf has Monogatari (which is GOATED) and Zaregoto (which in my opinion is even fucking better than Mono) under his belt... He truly is built different.

Diego Orozco

No thanks needed, just doing my job:D

Verols

lets not forget about the infamous tooth brush scene now :^) I do believe they'll be able to finish it fine, but this just the season that usually gets ppl to stop watching.

Kano Misogi

The only "overly lewd" scene I can think of in Nise is Shinobu's bath scene and the following seasons are not less horny... Plus, if they haven't stop watching after Hanekawa's shed scene I don't think there's anything that will

Enrique Barloco

compared to the other arcs I think it's one of the weaker ones

Limini

oh no, its not bad. love it honestly, introduces best girl kaiki. I say its a wall cuz ppl tend to stop watching due to the overly lewd scenes in Nise compared to the rest of the series.

Kano Misogi

The wall? Nise is a slide.

FluidDruid

nise is great tho.

TheMightyAnt

i pray for ben in the next season

TheMightyAnt

You saying it as if its bad

Enrique Barloco

source material Light Novel. just confirming. The Monogatari books are a classic in the LN scene.

Izaya

Today's a good day, but now that Kizu is over they got to get over the wall that is Nisemonogatari.

Kano Misogi

why nobody told them that shaft made both madoka and Monogatari? or that this is based on a light novel? or that Homura and Senjougahara shared same va? lol I can't...

Ecodude

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT WHEN THE NEXT MONO REACtiON WAS

megasteinfield

YESSSS

Balurion

IT'S A GOOD DAY

Priam

We're in boys

Wanderer

LFG

hampsterducktape

Today is gonna be a great day

DrWomanRespecter

Today is the day guys!!!

Loayza


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