Poll results
Added 2018-02-11 11:42:30 +0000 UTCOur previous poll about choosing your character's gender is more or less finished. Over 2400 people have voted and about 36% want to be able to choose main character's gender. I think it's safe to talk about the results now.
As some of you already know, our new game Glamour is a remake of my first game. I came up with the idea in June 2015, and I've put a lot of thought into the game's story over the years. Adapting some parts for a male protagonist would be very complicated.
Technically, we can add the option to play as any character in the game. Theoretically, we could even add Max's family into the game and you'd be able to play as him, one of his sisters, Ann or Kira. But of course we're not planning to do this in the foreseeable future, and we're definitely not doing it on Patreon.
But Glamour was always envisioned as Kate's story. She's the point of view character who tries to make it in a big city and sometimes gets into sticky situations to get out of. It's an interesting story, and I want to tell it to you, but it wouldn't be possible with a male protagonist without significant changes.
When I started working on Big Brother, I added Eric as the Big Bad the players were supposed to overcome. Of course, that meant I couldn't add an option to get rid of him right at the start in 0.1. So in the very beginning on the game he was temporarily completely unbeatable, which pissed off a lot of players who wrongly assumed I'm into NTR and Eric is going to fuck everything in sight, while Max will be hiding in the closet and jerking off wearing a Superman costume or something. A lot of people got really upset at Eric because they assumed the game will never have an option to get rid of him. I decided to appease the players and made him more tame. Ultimately, I think it hurt the game because he wasn't threatening enough and turned out to be more of an annoyance than a proper antagonist.
I can't make everyone happy, so I'll just try to realize my vision of the game and hope people will like the result. I understand that some people really want to see male protagonist and they might decide to leave. A lot of people already left. But I'm sure when we'll show people how good our game is, a lot of people will return and even more people will want to play our game because it's going to be very special.
Some things aren't set in stone, we're still going to have polls because I care about your opinion. But the main plot of the game is not one of those things.
Comments
Its a dilemma - a real mess! I understand ds and that he's not willing to risk getting banned by patreon. On the other hand I really loved bb and really hope that a way can be found so bb doesnt have to die!
ChaosTigger
2018-02-21 23:24:18 +0000 UTCThank you for writing YOUR story and not a combination of all of our stories. :)
2018-02-15 05:08:44 +0000 UTCthen he has to give the money back to the people who gave money to Big Brother. The game is not finished. and there is still a lot of open in Big Brother. As I read, there are already two games that he does not finish. How many will be added ??? I do not think that many will support him here yet. read in other forums. BigBrother fans are very angry. What he writes above about patreon is a lie. If that were so, then School, Love & Cousins should not be continued. And others do not play either. I have no confidence in him anymore, so I will not support his new or old game either. And do not play.
maik weber
2018-02-14 20:26:27 +0000 UTCThat was meant to be no interest without male protagonist
Xsandman78
2018-02-13 19:25:20 +0000 UTCShame, no interest who male protagonist personally but best of luck though.
Xsandman78
2018-02-13 19:23:49 +0000 UTCNo animation, sorry
2018-02-13 00:24:43 +0000 UTCBut it does become stale. And lack of Eric is only one of the reasons. Other game elements which are dropped about the same time - skills, money mechanics, challenge, coherent plot and character progression. Basically everything aside from a bunch of fap material.
Ascher
2018-02-12 10:17:20 +0000 UTCLol.. Someone is mad about results..
ataoz
2018-02-12 09:01:32 +0000 UTCIt is amusing that people say the game got stale after Eric was gone. I hated him and got rid of him ASAP! He was a cock-block and was using and lying to Ann and was wanting to use and abuse the rest of the family! (But getting rid of him as fast as I did caused me to miss out on forcing Eric to let me touch Ann. Will do that when I replay the game.)
2018-02-12 08:15:35 +0000 UTCDo what you feel best Dark Silver. You can’t please all of the people all the time and that’s fine! I agree that having Eric too tame was somewhat disappointing. I understand some people maybe got too emotionally attached to the game - see all those previous and current comments about hating Eric with a passion - but I can’t identify with them. After all, it’s a game, but for some apparently it’s more than that lol.
2018-02-12 08:05:13 +0000 UTCTotally agree Ross, that would have been the smart way to do things. Too bad the creator decided to listen to some loud haters
Enrico
2018-02-12 07:15:19 +0000 UTCI stand behind the creator of a project following their vision.
Miro
2018-02-12 05:45:02 +0000 UTCGlamour was half finished just a four years ago. The fact of switching between games for now - is about that, that Dark Silver is tired a little by Big Brother and wants to finish an old good almost finished game by reworking it on new engine, plus - add some episodes, that wasn't implanted in game earlier. If he will just remaster already existing game - in will take all your time for a few weeks. I'm like Big Brother very much, but Glamour is a little better (as i was seen it).
Volontieur
2018-02-12 04:49:20 +0000 UTCHaving an antagonist is all well and good, but games are supposed to be fun not piss you off. I hated eric with every fiber of my being. I wanted an ending where he gets ass-raped by 100 rabid pitbulls and then slowly lowered into a wood chipper feet first. I always get rid of him as fast as I can.
2018-02-12 03:59:37 +0000 UTCthe result is not a miracle. if you ask the questions wrong. Nobody wants a new game. Because Big Brother is not finished yet. What do you want with a half finished game? Since there are still many possibilities in Bigbrother, I now wonder if this is only half finished game. Is this the system now? We liked to take money but now wee bad luck, we make something new?
maik weber
2018-02-12 02:35:47 +0000 UTCI'm technically not a patron, but I'm a fan of Big Brother, and I'm pretty excited for this project too. Despite being a straight dude, I actually enjoy playing games with a female player-character. I don't necessarily project myself onto the protagonist like I would with a male protagonist, but I enjoy directing the life of the female protagonist and steering her towards the content I'm interested in. I'm sure there aren't truly that many people that will end up having a problem with a female protagonist. Most of the grumblers will probably try the game out and find it fun.
Spectacular
2018-02-12 01:55:35 +0000 UTCNot really clear and losing 47% of your patrons is a huge hit.
2018-02-12 00:38:26 +0000 UTCI wasn't particularly bothered by the NTR; Eric was just a massive asshat. The option to actually OVERCOME him is what enables him to be a villain. Otherwise Max was just an observer of Eric's story. Don't know why people thought the game was "all ntr all the time", but I wasn't here for the early days of the game.
tsukiouji
2018-02-11 23:58:40 +0000 UTCStill very sad over the way the Eric saga played out. Since I don't get emotionally attached to the MC, and find any type of seduction cool, I was happy to see the challenge of Eric. I get the whole "unbeatable" gripe, but I still would have liked to see Eric be able to seduce all women there. And by see, I mean see an actual seduction path rendered, especially for Alice and Lisa. It would need to be reversible, so that you could just be lazy at the beginning, let Eric have his fun, then take him out behind the woodshed for a beating. I still think DS should release an Eric update, showing all of his conquests.
rossbach
2018-02-11 21:53:58 +0000 UTCOh don't fall for the "mith" that he's gonna lose patrons because of that kink. He's losing patrons right now as a consequence of the new Patreon rules. There is now plenty of creators that added ntr as a kink to their game and had their earnings doubled or more. Dark Silver in my opinion doesn't deserve to have patrons htat he decided to ignore until now come back. Unless he somehow comes up with a masterpiece, but I highly doubt it considering how bad BB became
Enrico
2018-02-11 20:26:44 +0000 UTCAfter what you did, cutting ntr from your game (by far it was the most interesting part) just because some loud spammers told you to do so, I really doubt I'll ever try to support you again. In the meantime, other creators more clever than you had great success adding that kink to their game.
Enrico
2018-02-11 19:18:24 +0000 UTCSo glad you decided to stick with the original version ^^! Let s this be a lesson it s your game don t listen to the hater, if you lose some pledge it just mean you will also gain others who will appreciate your game after all the art is good and you can make good story (the beginning of BB show us that at least). So i m eager to try this new "Glamour" ^^. Also glad that you decide to not make anymore poll who could affect the main plot (finally a Dev who show some guts ^^ took you long enough :p)
2018-02-11 18:51:10 +0000 UTCthanks, it's a great decision. just put in my first pledge.
zb123
2018-02-11 18:21:54 +0000 UTCwill there be animations in the new game dark silver or are you using the same program as big brother?
john blanks
2018-02-11 18:14:01 +0000 UTCOnce your new game is up and producing content people will return. I'm here to support your talent. I had a great time with BB. I did not enjoy the grind much but it certainly passed the time and gave anticipation. I would love for there to be just an ongoing story mode option. I would love audio. The dream should probably be full on live choose your own adventure type video, but that might be impossibly expensive. Anyways it's fun and I am here. Thanks for adapting
Patrick Reynolds
2018-02-11 17:09:15 +0000 UTCAt the end of the day, the best thing you could do is make something YOU are happy with, and hope that other people like it too. Keep on trucking, my dude.
Ronald Bakbacon
2018-02-11 16:51:12 +0000 UTCDark You know how I feel about BB and Glamour. I am not going to say anything more. I just upped my pledge as promised.
Threetees
2018-02-11 16:34:22 +0000 UTCOh yes, the minority NTR lovers have spoken. And once again. If DS didn´t made the decision to got rid of fucking Eric, he did have lost a lot of pledger. The story with him, the characteristic of mom, so terrible... oh whatever. Waste of time to discuss it...
Hlextor
2018-02-11 16:01:07 +0000 UTCКак бы хорош не был сюжет новой игры проблема не в нем. Проблема в ассоциации игрока с персонажем. Скорее всего основная аудитория таких игр мужчины, а это значит что и главного героя хотят видеть мужского пола. Что касается опроса, то необходимо учитывать и тех кто голосовал за пункт 2. С учетом пункта 2 перевес уже не выглядит столь впечатляющим.
2018-02-11 15:24:06 +0000 UTCYou care about people's opinions but your not willing to act on them, DS you've really gone and fucked yourself tbh
M4t7theNinja
2018-02-11 15:18:56 +0000 UTCSpeaking of Eric... I think a back story about him would be awesome, the perverted tycoon lolol. With lots of hidden camera action and stuff, I'd be interested in that!
Tranquil Chewy
2018-02-11 15:14:25 +0000 UTCWell shit, you don't think Eric is hard enough, and I still have yet to beat him... on the other hand, about the new game. I will give the game a chance, but I can't promise anything... like I said in one of the last posts (I believe it was the actual poll post), that most of us are men. We want to see more nekkid girls, but with a female protagonist we will most likely be seeing more nekkid men. I'm just not into men man lol, I'm not saying their is anything wrong with it, but I'm not like that so... yea.
Tranquil Chewy
2018-02-11 15:07:30 +0000 UTC2461 votes from 2167 patrons? Cause of the typical fluctuation of patrons?
2018-02-11 15:02:07 +0000 UTCVery happy to hear that you’re going to continue on with your original vision. If people want to leave because it isn’t what they want, then let them. BB clearly suffered from listening to people who didn’t like Eric and you shouldn’t have to deviate from what could have been a sting storyline to cater to a group of complainers. It’s your game and it’s impossible to develop something that makes everyone happy.
shmerlin33
2018-02-11 14:43:06 +0000 UTC53% is a clear message, fuck the rest.
BoomBoom
2018-02-11 14:42:46 +0000 UTCBest of luck with your game not really into playing a female in these style of games, really has no challenge imo. I know the male formula is played out a lot but I liked how you did BB with Eric and actually giving the game some difficulty, and it became stale when you removed him. Honestly see this being a game about just not being taken advantage of like Eleanor.
2018-02-11 14:42:21 +0000 UTCStick with your guns and make the game you guys want to make. That is the only way.
Reutermo
2018-02-11 14:10:15 +0000 UTCI'm looking forward to seeing how this one turns out. Bout time something different came along... good luck guys, I'm sticking with you.
2018-02-11 13:43:40 +0000 UTCThere were games with female protagonist earlier. They didnt get popular...i expect the same here.
2018-02-11 13:42:35 +0000 UTCбудет ли игра поддерживать русский язык если да то я буду поддерживать игру
Georg
2018-02-11 13:25:13 +0000 UTCI am not crazy about the idea of playing the female as well, but, I'll stick around a bit and see how it goes and give you that chance, you haven't disappointed me so far, so, we'll see.
Bobbo69
2018-02-11 13:24:31 +0000 UTCYeah like most straight males I'm not into chasing guys and lesbians are boring to play. The only female protagonist game i played I just clicked through and never played again. Wish you guys well, I'm sure you will have some sort of success but I've cancelled.
2018-02-11 13:09:36 +0000 UTCЖду короче!!!
2018-02-11 12:48:48 +0000 UTCNever had anything against Eric and when he was gone BB became a bit stale tbh. Not at all into this play a girl and seduce men thing so I'll take my farewells as a patron now. Good luck with the game and all.
Nicke
2018-02-11 12:45:38 +0000 UTCFor me, after the threat of Eric left, the game became stale. An enemy that always kept my attention that I had to fight to keep away from my "roommates" was far better than Oh look, another porno shoot. Was also a tad disappointed that I could not peep with a bazillion stealth points on Eric and Alice if I sacrificed her. It was a good looking door though, I guess..... Anyway, an enemy that tries to screw with your emotions when you feel a connection with the characters would rock. Closed doors suck. 😊
SomeOldFart
2018-02-11 12:31:15 +0000 UTCТемный Серебряный админ ответь ты сделаеш вебмани и киви я деньги кину
2018-02-11 12:26:47 +0000 UTCSounds great. Hope you'll be able to keep such attitude. BB whole design just broke apart after Eric's removal. Sandbox might require much better gameplay than what BB's late versions had. Keep it up
Ignazzio
2018-02-11 12:14:59 +0000 UTC... but these people payed him! So, i think it is ok he did what he did. The customer is king. ;-)
Hlextor
2018-02-11 12:07:52 +0000 UTCCongrats dude. dont let people change your vision. big brother got creatively screwed because people forced you to make something you didnt want and didnt completely understand.
MastergamerPaul
2018-02-11 11:58:47 +0000 UTCthat would indeed be awesome
Str Ant
2018-02-11 11:58:22 +0000 UTCI love the idea of a female protagonist, it will be exciting seeing this develop. If you will be having any voice acting opportunities in Glamour, please let me know as I would love to audition! :). www.VoiceLikeCandy.com/voiceovers
VoiceLikeCandy
2018-02-11 11:53:48 +0000 UTCTo me Eric was a proper antagonist because he wanted to take my playthings :) and i'm sure Glamour will be great i like the idea of the female Protagonist very much
Str Ant
2018-02-11 11:49:10 +0000 UTCI for one, like the idea of a female protagonist. It'll show the other side of the story for once. I'm curious how it all will unfold!
Friar
2018-02-11 11:48:24 +0000 UTCThanks for you explanation. I will stay and give glamour a chance!
2018-02-11 11:47:26 +0000 UTCThe people have spoken.
2018-02-11 11:47:05 +0000 UTCDo what you do best. Good games. Im not into female protagonists so Im out. Maybe I will give it a try at some point. Good luck with your new game :D
Legendary Duo Games™
2018-02-11 11:46:29 +0000 UTC