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Gender poll

A lot of people are asking about main character's gender. We firmly believe Glamour's protagonist should be female, but we can't ignore player's desires. Which is why we want to make a poll while the game is still early in the development.

1)  The protagonist should stay female

2)  I have no strong feelings one way or the other

3)  I want to be able to choose between genders at the start of the game

I want to clarify here that option 3 doesn't mean "just magically add twice as much content into the game in the same amount of development time". While the map, the characters and most gameplay mechanics like crafting will stay the same regardless of main character's gender, the events will obviously be unique. Which means half of the time we could've spent on Kate's story and events will be spent on another character instead. So while the number of ALL events will stay the same, this number WILL be divided between two main characters. Are you sure you want this?

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"Taking The Rubber To The Son Of A Friend Pies Have Been Feeling Ultra Estrus Too Comfortably Without Permission!himself Cowgirl Out In The Second Time!!" THE SECOND TIME!!!! Guys, do you know what that means?? Not the first time but the SECOND TIME!!! WHOOHOOO!!!! Seriously, Who writes this stuff?

Rodimus

Guys DO NOT follow any of these links. They appear to be virus links

EthanEverhart

Yeah, only because of this game, I fell in love with this genre of games, I hope that they will restore, and make backup copies for all their projects. Good luck to you!

Vulgar Joys

Remember love mourn Big Brother(((

Do care either. Just make it as enjoyable as the last game.

Very much in favor of female protag. Honestly sick of male protag/harem games.

What about a mtf and ftm like genoro game?

Nicolas

excellent !

If your game is meant to have a female protagonist then make it the way it's meant to be. Don't try to go halfway to appease people. Make the best game you can in the direction you prefer and it'll work out just fine

Vortex

If anything, maybe allow the player to be able to choose futa/trans so they can still poke everyone they want and less non-sexual scenes need separate renders and the story would require less alternate writing. Already, this game is going to be problematic because of the dev's desire for branching routes and history of setting aside those which become unpopular.

Nice, A poll where all 3 options still result in a female character. What a tough decision....

I like the idea of being able to chose, but I have a feeling that that will drastically slow down development. Also, is option #2 reference to Futurama? ;)

EthanEverhart

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visual & novel gamer's

Hello. I'd like to ask, since there is already game named Glamour maded by you(i think it went to version 0.8 or something like that) and characters and story plot seems to be mostly the same - is this going to be continued on that game or it will start completely new just with same story.

Prokopije Sismanovic

Please don't go for options 3, that's a terrible idea :P

Yes! Same girls as BB this new girl is ugly.

MGscott

I was very skeptical at first, but after playing the game "Kate" here on Patreon I like the idea. You have more "freedom" in regards to plot and ways to play the story compared to a male protagonist. I vote option 1.

Not interested in female protagonist, so I choose option 2 , it's up to you.

Not interested in female protagonist, so i’d Want choice to generate interest

Xsandman78

По моему очень даже интересно и сложно, честно говоря вот не одной игры подобного плана с выбором пола не приходит в голову, скорее всего, потому-что их нет. И это говорит не о ебанутости, а о лени разработчиков других игр, потому как писать в 2 сюжетки запарно вдвойне. Да и Сильвер обещался до закрытия ББ пахать на два фронта, в ББ и в новом проекте, но раз ББ закрыли, то пусть свою двойную силу пустит на одну игру и запилит 2 сюжетки и за мужика и за девку, как раз оправдает свои собственные слова.

Since announcing this project, DS, your posts have sounded really enthusiastic. You obviously have a vision that you are excited to share in this game. I am of the opinion that your previous game only suffered because you tried to keep people happy. When you first pitched this idea I'm sure you expected a lot of backlash over the female protagonist, but you went ahead anyway because you believed in your vision. I am willing to stay patron here for a least a few releases to give you a chance to show me this great game and prove to me that I can enjoy playing as a female character. So I choose to not to vote in your poll, and I hope you follow your own instincts, and don't compromise your project to try to please everyone.

send the boy to the military camp ... put some new character and ready, that is the new big brother of the girls, that is the one that takes care of them while the other is in the camp ...

Futa option.

I think as side project you should work on BB. A lot of people where supporting you for this for a very long time, and are prolly really sad to see it on hold. Finish it up we all wont to see where it goes, and do this female thing you want to do. Just my 5 cents

Johnni Schrøder

This is sounding more and more like a star citizen-esk game with loads of feature creep that will eventually kill it off.

I think this poll should have been for patrons only. Just my opinion.

FGD12

No gender bending stuff planned btw. But lesbian will be :)

Don't say nonsense please. We all are living in real world when we have to make decisions due to circumstances. I had no plans to stop BB at 0.13, trust me :)

I'd like the female option for a few reasons. First, of course, lesbians. Second, it still potentially leaves the option for a gender bending ending (ie dick girl, total gender change, etc). Either way, I'm looking forward to the new game regardless of the sex of the main character. Your animation, art, and story is what is most important to me.

Brittany Bovine

Sorry Dark Silver your record for dropping games is to larger to over come.

a1fox3

You went glamour and dropped it then you went Big Brother and you dropped it now you go back to a new glamour so how long will this one last until it gets dropped.

a1fox3

Not happens soon, unfortunately

Gender chosen plot ofc

It has absolutely nothing to do with being emasculated. Some of us as guys do not want to play a game where we are trying to date a guy. That is not enjoyable for a straight guy. Why would a straight guy want to spend his free time trying to find ways to have sex with a guy?

MGscott

Make your own game , the way you want it to be. Lets see what we get .

This!!

Martyn

I'm all for a female character, rather than a male. I just think your stated reasons for doing so are invalid. At any rate, looking forward to it!

tsukiouji

RP'er by heart. Prefer being able to atleast somewhat identify with my character. That is alot easyer if said character is the same gender as me. (and can always allow us to corrupt someone else ;P)

Zilver Fox

Same as a1fox3. I chose option 3.. I know that meens making close to two games into one. But I do prefer that option.

Zilver Fox

option 3

Drakko

I want Big Brother to be worked on and place on one of the new patreon like sites.

a1fox3

All I know is my gut says Maybe.

I voted player choice for one reason. To Keep the members who refuse to play as a woman. I myself find the female lead is a great way to play. For men who feel emasculated by this they need an optional lead.

Threetees

Говорят: художника обидеть может всякий. И еще говорят: полдела дураку не показывают. Я думаю, что Автор должен сделать игру так, как он, Автор, считает нужным. ББ - отличная игра. И я готов верить, что способности не изменят Автору и впредь.

The original "glamour" was really good and the Mc was female. So i really don t see why we debate about this, do not change the base of the game just because some people dont like it, not everyone is going to like everything anyway and by giving the choice you are sure to make some unhappy, just impose yourself and allow the patrons to only have influence on things which will not modify the storyline. I see too many Dev who throw their own game away and make shit just because they dont impose their choices (like you did with your previous game)

The wording on these choices are so wrong. So when you say "choose between genders" do you mean - Gender chosen plot or female plot with gender chosen protagonist?

Female plot. Aaaafter the game gets off the ground, the team could go in and put stuff as choosing to take a different character. I fully expect the first releases to have more "this is the world, the people, your room" stuff and less "To seduce the principal's daughter go talk to the barman friend of your sister". At first we the players have to be introduced to the Principal's daughter and the barman...

FGD12

I kind of expectet this shitstorm after having read all forums over the past few days. We talked about this on Discord. As many before have said here they miss option 4. "Male character only". As a man it's hard to see any other way you can fully enjoy a game about seducing women. Sure you can role the part of a lesbian girl but this will be your only viable option. All content you add where the MC tries to score with men is gonna be just as much waist of time as the idea of having a choice between Male or Female. I defenetly think you must go with your guts on this and do what you fell is right. Your game, your rules and your ideas. I will try it out regardless of the outcome. But i feel voting on this is like the last American election. There is no option i support. Only Female - Makes me think of all the things i don't wanna do. Train nailpolish skills and put on eyeliner. Seduce men and avoid all other male characters. A choice of Gender - This will lead to everyone asking down the road for specific content. In other words.. More girls, less men and all the work will be divided adding to the workload for your team. I have reached an opinion of my own and concidering everything and all factors involved a Male MC will ensure the future of the game and potential of growth. A female.. Very unsure future and high risk. Do you best man but try to make your desission before you go to far into development. It's only gonna hurt more if you have to turn around the futher you already travled. Cheers :)

First let me say that you guys are by far the best adult game writers on Patreon. I mean sure, your graphics are amazing and the interface is great, but the plot and multiple story lines (converging no less) in BB was freaking awesome! So naturally I'm excited about anything you guys put out. Having said that, I've played a couple of female protagonist games and they just don't appeal to me the way male protagonist games do. Most of your audience is male and a male MC gives them the opportunity to sort of project themselves into the plot. Being a dude and playing a chick just doesn't appeal as much. Just my 2 cents. I suspect that if there was a "male protagonist only" option above it would easily sweep the poll.

I prefer a female prot. but I see the appeal of getting to choose. However, I think most people should take into consideration that the more customization a game has (especially depending on the game's engine) the more likely it is to double the work load for the developer.

За женского персонажа. Женщина может спать с мужчиной и женщиной. И аудитории это будет интересно. Технически, главный герой мужик тоже может спать и с мужчинами и женщинами, но подобный сюжетный ход совершенно не одобрит огромная часть игроков. Я уж точно не готов оплачивать игру про гомосятину )

Choseing genders is nice but make the game what you guys want to make we wil play the !!

Option 4 : Main character is MALE only!

Derp

Playing the female isn't all that unique. Never tried a female protagonist game that was any good though. You could try doing something actually original and make a game where you play all the males and switch around between them. Opens up a lot of possibilities!

Nicke

I dont think a game like BB was supposed to end at some point. You can always put some new characters and story elements in it.

Choseing genders would be double work, so male only.

Make the game you guys want to make. If you think a female protag is the way to go, go with it.

Reutermo

Personally I wrote a review about Big brother in a forum analyzing the bad points mostly, basically what I did critic was the "time system" in which you are in a perpetual loop with almost no changes, "opportunity system" which was the only way to continue to develop your relationships with characters while truly forgetting respect and relationship levels (the became just limits to the opportunity system) and Eric that his only job was to be an opportunity blocker without doing anything else at all. About your new game I will say the truth, based on what you have said it seems great, however your defence of the female MC giving reasons like "she can be taken advantage of" it can happen too with a male MC if you add perverted females for example. Personally I think that's the only point that you should have given your patreons the choice to choose and vote since the start. I truly hope you the best with your new game and that you have a nice day.

Well he asked our opinion so we gave it.

MGscott

Exactly!

MGscott

Do the game as you and your team like it and do not listen to others it's your vision of this game. You showed us how good your games are. Thank you

I am affraid about progress if You will work with both MC genders. Half work for nothing, and every month progress for 2 minutes playing. As dual F. DS, You have perfect CG, but is spending too much time for work. Please, do what do You think, and we will see. And please try finish some Your project. I would like enjoy Your game to the end. Thank You very much. And GOOD LUCK

Tom G

What i would like to know is, if this game is going to be another one of these "slut creator" games. Because all the fmc games i played thus far, seems to play this way. You have a scenario where you either choose to be a slut and something kinky happens( till you fuck every guy at the end of the game) or where you choose the other options and the scenario just ends. I guess for most guys, or at least for me, girls who fuck a lot of guys aren't sexy at all. I think it would have been much hotter if you could play a guy who for example corrupts Kate. Different character perspectives(f.e. like Wicked Choices) could also be a thing.

Max

Make the game your way.... You want a female... Then so be it.... Maybe on down the road... Or while this is being developed.... Make the content for a male protagonist (but add none in updates) and release with a completed game...

Patrick Poulsen

What about protagonist being a futa?

I wish option 4 was available and to be honest, i lately find myself thinking whether i should even subscribe anymore considering the game i love is no longer in development.

ArchAngiris

I strongly agree with bds: Option 4, male player character only. Your point against option 3 makes sense. I strongly disagree with your comments for a female main chracter though - men are not as one-dimensional as you make it seem, maybe you would have been able think of other male main character-based story options apart from building a harem. There are plenty of great games with male main characters out there. But hey, just feel free to make the game you envisioned. Anybody is free to support the games he/she likes. I will for my part and I wish you luck and success and thank you for your great work in the past. Cheers.

TKone

MAN MAN MAN !!!

There are already games like this out there where you are the girl and they are stupid. I can't believe so many guys want to play a game where you are trying to have sec with guys. Wtf!?

MGscott

Playing for a girl would be interesting, a good idea! But in this case, I will be interested only in girls x)

I see many people complaining... But I like how your new project seems to be going. I trust you, and I know you will give us a great game. Good luck, and thanks for your work.

where is option 4? just forget this female MC game..

I think a lot of people that are picking option 1 are forgetting that, if we go that route there won't be as many girls to sleep with as there would be if the main character were a guy. Every chapter will be about what new guy she can screw, and I don't think most of us want more guy characters in the story. I know I don't, that's just me though man. Up to you in the end.

Tranquil Chewy

Hah, good point!

Option 4: You drop this game and continue work on the game people actually supported you for, just like Mr. Dots is doing. Don't waste your time making a game people do NOT want.

RSTAA

Maybe a Futa???

Roger

Agree with Scott, make the game you envisioned. Prove to those of us who don't think FMC are good games wrong. I'm still unsure of the set ups you've given; sounds like a MMC game from the other side. No matter what type of game very few want to play as a victim. Principle catches you in office; someone stills your clothes from locker; neighbors spy on you tanning, all responsive not one controlling event. Not a fan of the 10/20 to 1 in most RPG's, hated the Alpha of your last game; lopsided, pointless grind before you can enjoy a beautiful game or good story. The only request I would ask of you - Make your game the way you saw it when creating it, but be sure to give us a good story with a strong lead.

Djinnee

For the love of god just keep doing what you had planned. The last thing anyone wants is for you to become resentful that you were pressured into making a game you didn't want.

Conviction07

3 is perfect as the female and male leads could actually be a couple at the house able to have sex with each other but in an open relationship so they can have others to or corrupt others to bring back to the house for a 3-way

InTheNine

58% of you will be wanking to men goodluck

M4t7theNinja

i dont want to play a lesbian game. either im a chick that sucks a lotta dick or a dude who fucks alotta chicks.

James

Dick move not giving a 'male only' option. Obviously even some of those that prefer a male character are gonna choose 1 or 2 because you're being difficult and saying only half the content will be done in the same amount of time. The signs don't seem good for the future of this game.

In perfect situation I would be for 3 every single time as having a choice is always better. But development on Patreon is patron's dependant so slowing down whole procces is bad. I voted for 1 then but 3 isn't quite bad

Ignazzio

If you enjoy/are intrigued by what the content creator does, go along, support what she/he/they are doing, if you don't find what they're planning/creating don't support them in the hopes of being able to change the mind of the content creator(s), if the artist can't go with their own flow of idea and is forces to try and appeal to everyone's wishes, the end result is anything but pretty. And for DS: even if some supporters would drop out cause they don't find your idea appealing. Others who didn't find the last idea appealing could find this new game intriguing and come along to support you.

Niko

Ну всем угодить всегда сложнее, но думаю это того стоит. Если 2 пола, то можно взглянуть на историю с разных сторон. Получится как 2 игры в одной, и все довольны будут.

Stick with the plan. A compromise usually means a moderate result. Continue with FMC and make a great game!

On one hand a duel gender option would open up additional consumers. Allowing the consumer to pick his/her preference. But that'll take more time, with a single gender option the focus will be on that one character.

ghost556

Personally, I would like to see you create the game you want to make, not the game someone else wants to see. I feel artists have a vision and if that vision is broken by others then the creation will lack the things that makes it unique - Desire, inspiration and heart etc.

Honour your russian heritage and fulfill your mission, DS. ;-) Maybe I am the only one here being happy about the abandonment of this stupid and boring BB. But now just become the hero of all ETO-wankers. Ok, a clever chosen small animated GIF warms my heart more than these cold and dumb 3D-Models but if you are able to rescue at least the atmosphere of the old Glamour everything is forgiven. Honour your girls. CU in hell.

Not everyone finds the same kind of woman attractive. Therefore if the main character is a female and the player does not think she is attractive then he is stuck with her for the entire game. If it is a male then there will be many female options for him to be with and then everyone hopefully will find one they like. I honestly do not find this main character attractive in anyway. The eyes are not natural and border line evil.

MGscott

Я ждал гламура очень много лет, ещё на альбедо следил, с первых версий. И моё мнение, если оно кому интересно. ББ тебе патреоны не дали сделать, как ты хотел и он скатился до визуальной новелы. Теперь есть у тебя поклонники и навыки. Делай игру такой, какой ты её видишь.

I agree max was hard to relate to. The guy should at least be good looking. Someone the girls would actually want.

MGscott

For 'over shoulder' or first person I'd probably prefer male. For third person perspective I'd prefer female. I always thought Max looked a bit of a dick and was hard to relate to. I think trying to do both (male and female) would be a mistake.

I do not know this for sure but I would guess most of us are men. So why on earth would we want to play the role of a female? That is not exciting in anyway. There are already games like this where the main character if a female and in my opinion they are not enjoyable. Dark silver you are not looking at it from out point of view. We are that character so if she is doing things with a guy it is as if we are doing things with a guy and to a straight guy that is not enjoyable. Also I really wish you had given us the ability to vote on the physical appearance. Many of us are disappointed with the main character. The females in your last game were far more attractive and more realistic. This character looks like a computer image. The face and eyes do not look natural at all! If you take a vote I bet you will find most of us think Ann from the last game was the most attractive then Lisa would be #2. This girl looks like an older version of alice and most of us feel she was not all that good looking. I am not trying to complain but since some of us give you $40 a month I do think you should ask us for our opinions much more than you do. This is simply my suggestions and no disrespect or insults intended.

MGscott

Female (or a choise between female and male) but definitively not male

Chocoboobs

You have imagined the game with a female as the main character, so i choose the first option. But to be honest i don't care, male or female is the same for me. I just want to enjoy your game :)

Definitely Female, because this give us so much more Possibilities in the Story, not again another stupid male main.

a bit less, but still a lot

I say go with your vision and stick with female. Adding a male alternative to what is a story originally intended for a female seems very painful to work on. Plus, that would mean actual story progression would take nearly twice as long, probably less though?

GeeSeki

Option 3 :D

never )

Make a futanari 😀

x524

Option 4) The protagonist should be male. xD

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