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[PUBLIC EPISODE] The Wizard, the Witch and the Wild One: ep044 "To the Bone"

The keen mind is king, and you are not in your tower. You are here with us, underground, haunting the foundations of the world, a shadow, here to offer and support the force. In front of you is a cellar door and a brush of blood. Choose quick: Wear the muzzle, or grow some teeth. By a turning of the coin, you are awake and remember you are dreaming still.

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Brennan Lee Mulligan

Erika Ishii

Aabria Iyengar

Lou Wilson

Produced, designed, and scored by Taylor Moore  at Fortunate Horse with exquisite design and editing help from Jared Olson.

SPECIAL THANKS TO: Amanda Fredberg and of course, Shannon.

Album art by the great Corey Brickley

Comments

Brennan/Erika - I am hoping to get "Be Kind. Be Cunning." as a tattoo. Would you be kind enough to post a picture of these phrases written down? And choose between yourselves who writes/ who suits which phrase best?

Sil

I suppose it is too late now, so close to the end of the story, but may we please have content warnings for future WBN episodes if possible? Hearing animal suffering even briefly is really upsetting for me 🄺 Thank you so much; the show is amazing šŸ™

Nym

This has to be my favourite episode of the season. AmƩ's flashbacks hit so close to home and reminds me so much of "I was there, and not yet there. I was rage. I was a child."

Sil

I came here for this transcript specifically and found myself running into the same issue. I want to quote it for my Substack. In the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal and I can type it up, but yeah, not my favorite. :(

Sarah

Well, I owe you Lou/Aabria, because the phrase "slow is smooth, and smooth is fast" is paying dividends for me at work šŸ‘ŒšŸ»

Sil

I'm always so grateful for the transcripts but theres something odd about the ones for 43/44. I suddenly cant search through them or copy/paste text which is annoying because I love to search through and extract my favourite quotes

Rebecca

I just really want Suvi to realize what happened, it'll be that last nudge her character needs to go full rebel (ik she's basically there but I think her emotional connection to ghost will be like the cherry on top of it all and what seals the deal) I just hope ghost isn't too hurt when all is said and done. The poor girl has defly been through more than enough.

Shepherd of Stars - Nomad of The Cosmos - Monarch of The Aether

The people demand more queer NPCs!!!!

Yarl

not an actual himbo. himbo energy. i was being hyperbolic because of the big funny "huh????" sounds

Jules O

Oh, 100%. Brennan pointedly noted them yet again, and I felt just a little nauseuous reflex kick up in the back of my throat. Even knowing it's coming, I know it will gut me.

Aviva

is he a himbo or just does not care about wizard shit? nothing about him gave me the impression he was unintelligent, just had different information than Suvi and was a little crass in the way he communicates.

irisilmaril

I would have kept Keen alive. He would have been useful... even without his tounge. >_> A.G.

Aussie Griffin

Yeeeeah that's kinda what Im worried about

Cole

Possible involuntary Ghost plasma donations? She interviewed with the Glass Coronet, and considering how quickly she told the party about her abilities due to there usefulness I doubt she'd leave it out of what would be the biggest interview of her life. Sadly it's very likely she is being taken advantage of for worse than she was in Port Talon.

Shepherd of Stars - Nomad of The Cosmos - Monarch of The Aether

Anybody else have a really bad feeling about the dispelling agent ?

Cole

Thank you!

Katie D

They do but it runs a little behind. It looks like it's catching up though. The transcript for 42 is now up.

SvenTS

Does anyone know if they still do transcripts? There’s one that’s auto generated in Apple Podcasts but I’d definitely read a more polished one if they’ve got it! Much more doable to read stressful situations rather than listen haha.

Katie D

just got caught up, and this is my favorite arc so far! so many story moments that i thought would take many more months or years to happen have started to come around, and I’m just listening in bed while shedding a tear every few minutes. I always knew Suvi could do it, but i never imagined it would feel so satisfying. Aabria is a great storyteller because she’s so good at making me hate and love her all at the same time, and it’s a thrill! and literally i kid you not, i was adding up in my head all the times each PC has gotten to have personal story moments about family, and I was like huh… Ame really never talks about her family ever, i wonder if they’ll ever touch on that, and then BAM it happens immediately after lol

Camille Lanata

you should get either ā€œbe cunningā€ or ā€œdo rightā€ on the other wrist!

Camille Lanata

This one felt so fast,so dense, I had no idea an hour had past when it ended

Daniel Stevens

Gosh that last fight was so cathartic. How we needed that in the world right now - the baddie got it good.

Sara Gouveia

Really curious if there was any way aside from breaking the demon binding circle for Ame to escape. i assume she auto-failed the initial binding cause of sleep but wanted to know how the circles work mechanis wise, if it can be revealed at this time.

Wizard Spare

Having too much fun relisting to this episode again and again. Definitely going to ask my players to describe things more. Also Eursalon rolling 21s and flicking the guy off his sword ruled. v excited for the next installment

Wizard Spare

I loved the scene with Ame and her fox reflection. Especially that Erika provided us with a very strong Pratchett-esque dichotomy between what's kind and what's right, emphasizing that her need to be kind should not supersede the need to do what's Right. ...only for Brennan to say, "Uh-huh, but what I was getting at was maybe don't look under every basket you find propped up with a stick and an Ame treat."

Eli Plaskett

Yeah, I agree with you. I feel there’s been another non-clearing episode where I was quite triggered. Detailed descriptions of animal endangerment accompanied by haunting score and sound effects seems like a valid thing to have a trigger warning for, especially for a show that is often a comfort podcast for me.

The Wizard Stubborn

OH and i forgot to add - Ame's childhood flashback? yeah i grew up catholic & queer in a village in Scotland in the '90s while section 28 (2a) was in effect. schoolkids i didn't even know would come up to tell me what their parents said about me. Ame's story has been wonderful to listen to. Thanks for this, folks. šŸ’œ

Jules O

man, this show is somethin else. i have endless love for suvi. himbo energy from eioghorain has counterintuitively made him even hotter than before, so, thanks for that. eursalon in the basement had me pacing around my flat. couldn't stay still. everything ame & the fox did gave me shivers. i'm one big goosebump. ok so, sidenote: some teeny parallels with ame make my head spin. in late 2017, after moving into temporary accommodation, I got a tattoo on my wrist that says, "be kind". it faces towards me, for me to read. about a year ago i knew i had to embrace being cunning; it was the only way to flush out some sneaky bigots and make them expose their true nature. it paid off just this week. this show always hits Just Right. !!!!! storytelling !!!!!!

Jules O

They had a content warning when the violence happened very quickly out of nowhere, when Gramore pulled that wizard apart. I remember because the TW saved me from letting my nieces hear it! And I really appreciated that. But this episode was different. It was clear what was going on and what was coming. At some point you have to take responsibility for yourself and just use common sense about what you're watching, ya know? I really like that the show isn't usually covered in warning stickers. But I think a fan-made list of TW is a great project if that is something you care passionately about. I'm a big believer in what one of my old bosses used to say "If ya got time to complain, ya got time to chip in and help fix it!" I'm sure it could be a part of the wiki, no?

TheodoreKnob

Eioghorain

The Wizard Squeamish

There's been discussion of this on the Reddit as well. I also complained about this in the comments of The Clearing. Unfortunately, at this point I think if we want to see change in this way, we'll need to make it ourselves as a fan community. The Magnus Archive fan community has a good example of what this would look like: a database of all the episode with potential triggers related to the monster of the week. I think if there are some other fans with free time we should definitely organise something like this and maybe put it on the WBN wiki with spoilered text for the contrarians saying that content warnings spoil the episode for them Respond if you're interested

The Wizard Squeamish

There's been discussion of this on the Reddit as well. I also complained about this in the comments of The Clearing. Unfortunately, at this point I think if we want to see change in this way, we'll need to make it ourselves as a fan community. The Magnus Archive fan community has a good example of what this would look like: a database of all the episode with potential triggers related to the monster of the week. I think if there are some other fans with free time we should definitely organise something like this and maybe put it on the WBN wiki with spoilered text for the contrarians saying that content warnings spoil the episode for them Edit: Respond if you're interested

The Wizard Squeamish

Marisha Ray said that exact thing on the Critical Role wrap up stream this Thursday. I agree. What a character.

Lotta Andersson

Me too! I always save the episodes for my commute and the last few episodes have been like coming up from an ice bath when the outro music starts to play. Total immersion. And a good exercise is controlling you facial expressions.

Lotta Andersson

Incredible episode as always... But the lack of any kind of content warnings really bothers me, tbh. I was lucky to see a content warning online before listening so I was prepared. Please consider adding some kind of warning to your episode descriptions!!

Squares

The ink demons can be respelled for like 10 gold pieces, which I believe is payed for by the tower of the glove typically but surely Suvi could do it herself as well.

The Wizard Scam

I feel like these moments are what begins their transformation into what they will become - three beings of unrivaled power, a triumvirate presiding over both realms

Conor Steinke

Forever grateful that I found this podcast. This is so amazing. And the things I felt as Keen said (paraphrased) "from the moment I saw you in that beer garden I knew I had to have you". Such a perfect twist on what could have been a line from any romance novel and here it just twists your guts. So amazing. Thank you thank you! And pour one out for Vandal. (how do ink demons work? Is he dead?)

Lotta Andersson

I just love how unafraid and mature Brennan is with his descriptions. Describing torture like that was really powerful without it feeling cheap for shock value. He truly is the Mozart of storytelling.

One Punch Max

Yeah, that bit was surprising in a couple of ways. I was not expecting to sympathize with the parents. Then we don't see them tell Grandma Wren anything other than "she is possessed by something" and "she is not...proper." Good reason for Grandma Wren to despise them, but I find it hard to believe they would not have mentioned the mob wanting to drown their 5-year-old daughter. Also, I was picturing a village family, not one with money enough to have a house with a "nursery."

Carrie Mook Bridgman

Either she didn't know or, if she did, it made her worry even more because she knew there was no way she could find her quickly if something had happened. Brennan narrated that she looked like she had been crying before Suvi resurfaced in Port Talon and was confirmed alive. I could definitely see her repeatedly scrying in the hopes that maybe the pendant has come off at some point

Amaya

I would love to know if the revelation about Ame's village and family were a revelation to Erika or if she and Brennan had worked out her whole backstory from the beginning. There's a lot Aabria doesn't know about Suvi's backstory. If it was a revelation to Erika, has Brennan known this part the whole time, or did he just set up "Ame was abandoned by parents who couldn't handle her" and is improvising the details? I need the Fireside Chat!!!

Carrie Mook Bridgman

The null clef was Soft's edit removing the reflexive indicative--which Citadel wizards are taught is an essential part of every spell. The reflexive indicative is what identifies the spellcaster.

Carrie Mook Bridgman

Not the ring. The pendant. The ring is standard-issue Citadel equipment for drawing from the Aerith and keeping track of the people doing so. Suvi no longer uses the reflexive indicative, so it can't identify her. Though I do wonder when they will figure out, "Sky is the unidentifiable wizard, so if you see an anonymous spell, that's her." Also still wondering why no one at the Citadel mentioned not being able to scry on her. If Steel knew about the pendant, she wouldn't have bothered scrying, so either she doesn't know (in which case she would have investigated) or she wasn't the one scrying before.

Carrie Mook Bridgman

She's been upset before about putting him in danger and he's said danger is normal. Also, she opened herself to his pain when she didn't have to. She didn't pull away, and she sent him her strength. He'll forgive her--but she'd better explicitly promise all of them to be more cunning, and demonstrate that soon.

Carrie Mook Bridgman

Honestly what an amazing episode! It was a lot but soooo powerful

King Rob

I just got mine in the mail, I'm so excited to listen with him!

Luce

Lojaan, you're right. Absolutely. The grand problem is figuring out ways to stop the monsters without becoming monsters--to stop the poison machine without getting poisoned ourselves. That may not be possible. At any rate, withdrawing and doing nothing also makes us complicit. How do we balance "Be cunning" and "Be kind" without losing either one? There's no sure answer, and as others here have said, it's a job for *communities,* because it's way too big for any individual.

Carrie Mook Bridgman

I was holding my fox plushie so tight

Tyler Sweeney

"These things do not work if the person you're trying to convince refuses to meet you at the table." Ouch. It reminds me of a long-ago fireside when Brennan and Erika were discussing Ame's limits: B: "If you stand over me, I will bring you low--onto this kitchen stool next to me for us to have a cup of tea.... We are *bonded,* motherfucker, and you are not above me." E: "Sit the fuck down. Do you want cream or sugar?" That's a great goal when the standing-over is a matter of arrogance and has not progressed to torture and murder.

Carrie Mook Bridgman

Just caught up! 2 questions: 1) Did the Fox Spirit say 'WRONG!!' to Ame???? 2) Suvi is so interesting. 'Princess' is correct - Born to a friend of the Sword of the Citadel, the child of a power couple, uniquely talented in her own right - how many times did she get bailed out to not be completely paranoid to the chain of command and consequences? So interesting. banger episode. great stuff.

The Wizard Shitposter

Fk this is a mood - I busted out so much work doing the same

Sil

I guess I got spoiled by Dimension 20, but the fact that they include content warnings in their episodes made it super beneficial for those wanting to avoid certain scenes. I see now that it wasn't Brennan team doing content warning protections but the actual producers behind Dimension 20. Still a great episode, but something I'll have to keep in mind going forward.

leotoffee

Followed by Ame screams

Carrie Mook Bridgman

Keen was such a great character. So many characters are subtly evil, was fun to see a true villain. Glad that bastard got his.

Justin Leaming

One of my favorite episodes ever 🄲 coming over here from Spotify to comment because GODDAMN that was so good. This is my favorite show ever šŸ’“

Eliana Schwartz

Terrific episode! I’ve never been more sure Ame is more Granny Weatherwax than Nanny Ogg! Being good is not the same as being kind! ā¤ļø

Gearoid Cotter

Fantastic episode. Just have a quick question about how Ame's curses work. When she triggers the retributive curse and the fox fire lights surround Keen, is the Curse tag (or whatever you would call it) scrubbed from Keen? Is the curse for just one direct action. During the fight when Keen was biting the fox I kept thinking that would trigger another blast of the curse. Thanks in advance!

William Neil Scott

this episode was a LOT but the most harrowing moment was "this would be the moment for [the Fox] to say something funny and charming...but he is an animal" because I was convinced Keen had somehow taken away the Fox's magical prefrontal cortex and he no longer cared about Ame or had the capacity to demand fish slurry. I'm not sure if I could have forgiven that.

Lael Newton

This episode was so stressful that I had to listen to it twice and attempting to calm down i finished my dishes, taxes, built a shelf and did my laundry.

kogdin

Have you ever considered that no organization is a monolith, you can have good people in evil places and bad people in good ones and you will never have systems working 100% as intended?

AL2VAR .

I don't think anyone other than Steel (and maybe other top people in the Empire) even knows about Coven of Elders, and probably only Steel cares about that - it sounded like Keen didn't know about it as it was the first question he asked.

AL2VAR .

Can't wait to seen the Keen fan art. Bc I've already combined Scar and Jafar in my head.

Ayon Jackson

They mention in a fireside that they're druids but I do imagine there transformations to be deeply unsettling like they sort of invert themselves into a new shape

Jack Jones

Tears in my eyes

Louie

Iā€˜m always listening to this on my way to work or when I’m on walks. I’ve been in public transport this morning making the wildest faces while trying not to SCREAM and kick my feet. I LOVE THIS STORY SO MUCH.

Urte

There have been a few videos of them at camp. It really is 4 mics in a quiet room. Good mics, but still.

Susan Buckley

Lol! That was my bisexual reaction as well!

Susan Buckley

The idea that the Citadel punishes every wizard who fails doesn’t align with how the institution actually functions. The Citadel isn’t just a school—it’s responsible for training and managing every wizard within the Empire. That means it must be efficient, filtering through countless students and placing them where they best serve. The majority of those who fail out don’t face exile or punishment—they often become guild mages, taking on roles elsewhere in society. Additionally, Suvi had already completed her training and was fast-tracked to leadership. Her fear of failure wasn’t about survival—it was about ambition. She had already succeeded within the system, which makes her position fundamentally different from those who struggled through the lower ranks. As for Sonder, he represents the reality that not every Citadel wizard is an elite mage or soldier. For every Suvi, there are likely dozens, if not hundreds, of Sonders—competent but unexceptional wizards who live quiet lives, supported by the structure of the Citadel. The existence of people like him contradicts the idea that the Citadel discards those who don’t excel at the highest level. Ultimately, power exists in many forms. The Citadel’s power is recognized because it is structured and institutional, but that doesn’t mean softer forms of influence—like Wren’s over Ame—aren’t equally powerful. Just because Wren didn’t coerce Ame doesn’t mean she didn’t shape her path. Influence doesn’t have to be overt to be effective. Nor does it have to have a 100% guarantee.

Agiddysea

This episode had me HOLLERING

Katrina Janairo

This is my hope; after the children are saved, I think Eursolon should use his train ticket to meet Tefmet, of course Suvi and Ame will be invited too.

The Wizard Sparrow

My argument wasnt that one had a choice while the other didnt. I was debating the ability for choice was unbalanced by the consequences they would have recieved from said mentors for saying no. The Citadel can give and taketh away is what Suvi has grown up hearing her whole life. Steel echos it. Has watch same aged peers flunked out and felt better then them for having passed the class. She has been fast tracked to the heights she has do to her connections. And still her fear that her own disobedience, any ineptitude could make her lose everything was a threat she had to live with her whole life. Suvi could/would never say no to any archmage or Steel at any given time before Abassin without facing immediate repercussions for being a faliure to state and empire. Her choices now have made her a full traitor. Ame had the choice to say no but chose not to. All she'd lose is the last connection she had to someone who loved her, but would never lose that love, even in death. If her memories were still effected, she wouldnt remember a coven where the majority would kill her due to her mentors inaction. They wouldn't have reason to and mirara would die alone instead. Wren knows of a witch who killed her mentor, of one who may possibly eat hers later if she doesnt accept, two that dont have one by choice and or faliure to acquire one, and two died. One without an heir cause she waited too long, while the last was betrayed and abandoned by her apprentice, so died heirless as well. There couldnt have been any assurances on Wren part that Ame wouldve agreed just because she gave her a home and was nicer than Indri. We, the audience, knew Ame would agree but I doubt Wren did given her history of witnessing failure after failure of apprentices from her sister witches. Wren trained Ame to be A witch, to given Ame confidence and stability afyer being abandoned. It was never an assurance Ame would take the mantle. Not all apprentices agree. Not all apprentices love their mentors enough to stay. It was a gamble on Wrens part that Ame would say yes. Shed never kill her for her refusal tho. Shed wouldnt even let Ame know if she was disappointed for it. Wren didnt seem the type to hold something like that over Ames head. Only Ame would force herself to feel like a faliure with no prompting from Wren needed. Even in death she seems to want Ame to be confident in her choices even if she doesnt agree in her actions. But who can know if it was her real spirit with magic induced pain visions. Steel could be a mom-mom for once and beg for mercy, a real court marshal, in house imprisonment for life, even banishment to save Suvi's life from her choices against the Empire. But if is told to execute Suvi and her friends on sight, weeeeellllllllllllllllll...... we'll see. Stacked as the choice of no was against them by their respective mentors, the consequences of a no by the two mentees was lesser for Ame; who could walk away depressed, alone, but unscathed save possible memory loss of women she doesnt know nor would they care for her anymore, but the memory of being still loved by a dying Wren. However, Suvi could not say no without heavy loss of personhood, country and family before Abassin, and could be killed or imprisoned or abandoned by Steel now for her actions. Not equal in choice or mentor, is all i argue. If thats over simplification of what these two have been dealing with, i dont have enough space in a podcast chat box to go further. As for Sonder. Hes a house-husband. His comfortable life is dependent on his wife's career as a general. If she dies, hes being relocated to a nice little house in the countryside as thank you for her service. Not his. By his merits alone hed get a small bag of coin and maybe a handshake. Hes not useful enough to warrant room and board in the war effort college without her, other than a body to dump spells. Maybe he could apply to be an apprentice to some older more accomplished wizard. Like Suvi's past cowokers under Silence were. But he wouldnt be as comfortable.

P. Cornielius

Talk about a big damn hero moment for Ursulon. That was an epic rescue. The sound design, the high stakes, the plots moving forward. Bloody excellent episode

James O'Dwyer

I've listened to it three times. This might be my favorite episode of this specific arc so far.

Alec Simkiss

Thank you!!

Preston From

Ah! Thanks!!

Witch of the Remembering Bog

They do- they just don’t get the fancy S names. Morrow was a namecloak, too.

Kodi Knight

Did you mean the null clef itself was tracking? I think the removal of it is what breaks the tracking of the citadel, unless I misheard the episode

rocket-flash

The sound design in this episode really sold the horror of Ame and the fox's Imprisonment 10,000%. I am curious whether they did any b-roll for the screams, especially with the fox or if some of that was just in the moment and edited over other dialogue very tactfully?

rocket-flash

I guess I hadn't even thought of his canonic d&d class before, but druid makes sense. I guess I had assumed the shapeshifter was a homebrew race but especially his healing in this episode reads druid.

rocket-flash

A brilliant episode. Amazing plays by everyone. Moving forward to unknown dangers but with a greater conviction to face them as their truest selves. I am excited to see what comes next.

Andrew Sparling

Anyone else catch Brennan dropping that Keen had a namecloak? It was right as he gets sliced… I thought guild mages were not supposed to have namecloaks. Is Keen a member of the League of Whispers?

Witch of the Remembering Bog

i was SCREAMING piss check during that scene. crazy that no one said anything.

milo

keen one of the nastiest motherfuckers brennan has ever played. what’s that about

milo

ah that sounds great!! especially love the pride element - i only first watched watership down a few years ago as i was in the process of realizing i was a lesbian and that line definitely woke something up for me. i hope you’re able to get that tattoo soon and that it comes out perfect for you!

Trish K

One of the most satisfyingly brief villains in herstory

Dylln

I receive my talking fox plush the same day I listened to this episode. Was this intentional?? Did you do this to break me?

Dylan Vosti

An incredibly poignant quote right now. I've got tattoo plans for it, a fox rather than a rabbit, and a little pride flag in it's mouth with the last sentence 🦊

Sil

KILL THE BAD BAD MAN LETS GOOOOO

disastersappho

That SNARL when Suvi fell into disrespecting spirits? Chilling

Jordan Charles

Can be reconstituted!

Sil

The quote that fucked with me from this one was "this is the dream, and the things that are real are dreams of the things that are not." Had to rewind and hear that one again.

Josh

I listen to all the episodes while I walk my dogs and I startled them (& 2 rando joggers) constantly this morning screaming and cheering along! Thank y’all for making my AM walks so fun!

Jamie Costello

not to comment like a tumblr girlie but I am screaming crying throwing up Ame the fox witch and BE CUNNING!??!?!?!?! HNNNNNNNNNNNG. Chills. literally.

Camille Alexander

Thanks for sharing that, Erin. I'm both sorry and happy for you as appropriate. šŸ™‚

Ross Llewallyn

Also Sonder is described as a passable wizard; he is capable of third level spells at most. He prefers spending his time as a husband and father. Sonder enjoys botany and gardening, yoga, collecting tea, and cooking. He tries to avoid caffeine. This is not a man afraid of the Citadel punishing him for failure or mediocrity apparently.

Agiddysea

Wow, I felt the same way tbh. Came here to say I lost my own familiar recently and listening to the ep today actually helped me heal a bit in an odd way. Helped me remember that my bond with him can never be taken away fully even when the Keens of the world (and congestive heart failure) threaten to or succeed in robbing us of their corporeal forms šŸ’–

Erin Hopkins

Can I just take a minute to shout out the STUNNING episode descriptions that are published with each episode! They so effortlessly stoke my anxiety and anticipation before each episode without giving away any of the twists and turns to come and add so much to my post-listening experience. They’re almost like an epilogue and riddle combined and they gives additional gravitas to the unfolding story. Not sure who writes them but — GODDAMN

Erin Hopkins

ā€œā€¦an older woman and her wife running the storeā€ *waving lesbian flag with anxiety*

kragonaught

Man the double team supreme beat down Ame and Eursulon gave out to the wizard keen (with a lil help from the best character 🦊) was so much fun to experience!

Fabian

(complimentary)

kragonaught

rest in piss Vandal, you cheeky genital-less fucker

kragonaught

Power doesn’t have to be coercive to be power. Just because Ame wasn’t forced into her role with threats or punishment doesn’t mean she wasn’t still influenced into accepting it. There is more to power than overt coercion, and we must acknowledge the quiet, insidious weight of obligation and expectation. Both Suvi and Ame were shaped by powerful institutions—one by the Citadel, the other by the Coven of Elders. Both were trained from childhood for a specific role, positioned as successors to carry on a legacy that preceded them. The idea that one had ā€œno choiceā€ while the other had ā€œcomplete freedomā€ is an oversimplification.

Agiddysea

Leaving*

P. Cornielius

Even if you say Wren had some awareness of control over Ame's career projection, at the very end, on her death bed, she gave Ame the choice to not take up the station. That she wouldnt be disappointed or love Ame any less if she left. There is only shunning and ostracizaction for living the Citadel. Scorn and seen as pretty much a failure dropout and possible assurances for families left behind ripped away. Manipulation or honesty; Wren still gave the choice with no downsides other than Ames own self placed guilt in not doing so. Not complete abandonment by an entire city and social structure, which was and is a threat for every Azure battalion solider and up; losing that support system for their families. They do not equate.

P. Cornielius

Aabria’s done some masterful rping in setting up Suvi’s rapport with Eiorghann and Brennan’s really enhancing her choices so well. It’s quickly becoming one of my favourite PC/NPC relationships, one where you could contentedly listen to them get coffee for 3 hours.

Ren Challacombe

Ghost from back in Port Talon

Kellie O Edwards

I HAVE NEVER FELT LIKE THIS BEFORE!!!! What a time to be alive and to witness this art

Zander Zamboni

It's under the pinned post at the top too (https://www.patreon.com/posts/faq-me-faq-you-78044362), but here is the form link, Honored Friend! https://forms.gle/S8paSygMkh3P4SZJ6

Ziggy Fox

I feel silly asking but could anyone tell me how to submit questions for the fireside? I swear I saw this mentioned somewhere but I can’t find it now…

Preston From

I'm part through this episode and just wanted to share that the small animal danger and torture have really affected me, and in a way I appreciate. My partner and I lost our 2 hamsters 🐹 last month, and each yelping sound effect from the fox 🦊 pulls my heartstrings and brings me to tears. I truly celebrate your artistry as it affects me so deeply.

Ross Llewallyn

Given that Suvi was trained by the Citadel after losing her parents, wouldn’t the same apply to Ame and Grandmother Wren? Both were taken in as children, shaped by the environments and mentors who prepared them to step into a larger role. The Citadel trained Suvi to lead as an archmage, just as Wren guided Ame toward becoming the Witch of the World’s Heart. And while Ame may be approaching it in her own way, the title and its legacy still carry on. It also makes me wonder—how much power do we really have in our relationships with those we see as benevolent benefactors? Wren, of all people, had to be aware of the dynamic between herself and Ame. She understands people too well not to recognize it. Her entire gift is forging deep, meaningful connections, and with that level of insight, she must have known on some level that she had Ame in her pocket.

Agiddysea

All right then, keep your secrets

Ty6260

Wait, wait, wait! Vandal? Someone get Vandal!

Fleur

It’s not complicated. Four mics in a quiet room.

Worlds Beyond Number

noooooo not my nastiest emotional degredation villain 😭 happy to see him go, but i was looking forward to seeing him get even NASTIER

Renoku

OMG this is soooo gooood!! I'm curious about the recording setup they use. Have they published a pic or any information?

Fernando G

he's prolly gonna make a split decision on it

I cast Vicious Inspiration

I try my best

Agiddysea

Jeez dude the vibes are rancid...

Santo

Amazing planning and strategy by Lou. šŸ‘šŸ½šŸ‘šŸ½šŸ‘šŸ½ Eursulon had to infiltrate first without getting caught, then face 3 powerful mages in close quarters while ensuring that Fox and Ame weren’t turned into casualties. His dice had his back, his plan worked beautifully. Chef’s kiss. Love the banter and interplay between Suvi and Eioghorain. They have so much chemistry!!! Also, his POV on this world being the dream and not the other way around…. wait what? Can’t be leaving us hanging like that bro. And there’s so much more depth to Ame now. I may be misremembering, but I think up until this episode, we didn’t really know much about Ame’s life before Grandma Ren. I think we just knew that her parents wanted to ā€œfixā€ her. Eursulon and Suvi seemed just a bit (just a bit!) more nuanced in that we have had a better peek and understanding of their relationship with their parent(s). That shit is COMPLICATED. Ame as a character just seems more whole now. Thanks, Brennan and Erika for another wonderful puzzle piece for us to enjoy and dissect.

DomPie

i think its more we only have heard him in his shifted form

Jack Jones

it's so rare that I listen to an episode more than twice in the two week span between releases - well I listened to it 4 times yesterday ... suffice it to say that episode was amazing!! thank you 5 so much for all the work that goes into these <3

Jaron Williams

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M Dorsey

Ok can’t lie I bawled my eyes out for the fox. Again, guys, you’ve outdone yourselves - this episode slaps. Can’t get enough of y’all.

SaĆÆda Siam

Absolutely loved the backstory and the comeuppance. I have not felt that much satisfaction for a villain death in a good while

Ammar Khalid

At the very least he’s Broken Up About the subject

Ali Brown

Real talk though… was Eioghorain always………. Southern? Did anyone else feel like he developed an accent this episode?

Yarl

Shiiiiiiiiiiit The first sound of Ame screaming through her closed mouth brought burning tears to my eyes. I GASPED when Keen knew Eursulon was coming and bound him!! Cannot believe the amount of Ame character development in a wonderfully scratchy, gritty and deep way, nor can I believe the torture they made us listen to at the beginning. THE PAYOFF THOOOO that fight was the best dnd fight I’ve ever heard, period

Yarl

Really well said, I also found myself this episode musing on the limits of Wren’s approach, how appealing she was as a sweet old hot grandma but (as happens as you grow up, and is happening for Ame) starting to see her flaws in a starker way. I will add though that I don’t see the role of their station as mending the world’s heart permanently, so much as an ongoing tending. So I don’t think Grandma Wren failed - she just had different tactics than what Ame is now developing

Yarl

I feel like that one Make Some Noise prompt may have awakened something in Brennan.

PocketNyx

If you haven't listened to it yet, try not to do it while ppl are sleeping. You'll likely want to be able to make many loud sounds w/o disrupting others. I had to do lots of motions and there were a few times I was unable to restrain myself. SO GOOD!

Bea W

I was prepared to be so mad at Brennan but then he got me in the last half lol

Jazz

Happy birthday!

Bea W

No because really wow that was something. I need to go relisten because just wowwie wow

Jazz

Ame to Suvi: can we join the war against the wizards nooooow? Lol

Jazz

Absolutely incredible šŸ˜‚

Jazz

Me at exactly 12:40am finishing this episode. I have made a mistake....but the deep satisfaction will surely bring us good dreams.

Jazz

YOU SHOULDN'T UNDERESTIMATE TRICKERY *cackles off into the night*

Jazz

I know how you feel! I've been campaigning for months to get ppl in my life to listen! I lifted my sister-in-law 3 months to the Patreon 2.5 weeks ago and she still hasn't started it! Ug

Bea W

Yeah, I get it. Citadel bad, I said that.

Agiddysea

Omg do NOT start this episode late at night if u need to sleep! This was so good!!!!

Cody Tucker

Same! I was listening while my roommate is asleep. I wanted to whoop with joy, but didn't want to wake her.

Bea W

Very interesting reveal that Ame's parents were potentially trying to protect her by sending her away. Still wrong that they thought ill of their daughter for being different but makes a little more sense they would go to Grandma Wren.

Susannah B.

They also have evidence this research is being backed by the Citadel with the testimony from the antivilist (a word that I am entirely guessing the spelling of)

Sean Lawrence

Damn damn damn I can’t get enough! And I NEED this escape bc the world is TERRIBLE

Danielle Olmoguez

Wait… I’m blanking on the NPC with innate dispelling abilities, can you remind me?

Lace Cameron

I'm worried about the little guy

Cas McK

So beautiful and so fucking good!!

LuChiChi4

I wonder what Keen really thinks of witchcraft I hear he's of two minds about it

mguin

This episode was so fucking good, the whole time. The petty bitch in me is ready for Witch Con 2: Break The Imperium Into Itty Bitty Peices, because god damn, way to poison the well of your ONE SINGLE ALLY in the coven of Elders, by trying to trap and hold Ame. This isn’t realistic, but I will be out here hoping for some eventual acknowledgement from SOMEBODY in the Imperium (might be Steel? Or Hot Prince? IDK LET ME DREAM) of how badly they fucked up by letting the Glass Coronet betray the ONLY witchy ally they had that was shielding them from a lot of shit.

Ali Brown

giggling and kicking my feet as two of my besties commit brutal murder 😌

bails šŸŒ€ witch of the what the fuck

Is Vandal ok???

Ben East

Hands up who else has developed an even keener loathing of Keen with every moment he’s had in the past few episodes! šŸ™‹ā€ā™€ļø

Beth Fraser

This exists. Join us! https://discord.gg/worldsbeyondpod

sabertruth19

Holy shit I didn’t breathe. I need to take a shower

Mubeen Khan

Another HOT episode. The music is hot, the sound design is hot, the mics were hot, the angst is hot, EVERYONE IS HOT. 🄵 OBSESSED

Erin

YOOOOOOOOOOO GET REKT KEEN

Rahne

Brennan, is Eioghorain slightly inspired/influenced by Saw Gerrera??? Getting some strong ā€œgotta kill to stop the killingā€ links going on

Wyatt Haywood

(Me doing little air punches)

DaphneDawn

I was having the same thought. Poor little guy

DaphneDawn

I was very grateful for spoiler free content warnings so I could listen after work. I’d have been fucked up listening to the first ten minutes then joining a Zoom call

DaphneDawn

Very grateful for spoiler free content warnings because woof

DaphneDawn

(Me doing little air punches)

DaphneDawn

šŸ™ Very grateful for spoiler free content warnings for this one. Woof

DaphneDawn

LOL i also thought it was koyaanisqatsi for a second

Elizabeth Agresta

Truly, my jaw was on the floor. So, so heinous. Comeuppance RICHLY deserved!!!!

Elizabeth Agresta

Stray observations: "I can't even begin to describe how bad it is that the Citadel is doing this, but trust me—it's bad." Ame is easily the most interesting character right now. Eioghorain refuses to be Suvi’s personal quest-giver or a convenient lore dump, and honestly? Respect. Eioghorain is coming across as a pure opportunist, which means maybe—just maybe—his moral guidance isn't the best compass to follow. Soft and Stone sound like full-blown doomsday preppers, paranoid conspiracy theorists in wizard robes. Softy’s ring is basically a high-end tinfoil hat. Shoutout to Brennan and Aabria. It was messy, sweaty, and took forever, but you finally got your rebel princess Suvi. The character assassination of the wizard Steel by the coward Suvirin Kedberiket. Suvi is desperate to make Steel evil or complicit in her parents’ deaths. Suvi throwing shade at The Wizard Silence is comedy gold. Like, girl, you don’t even know the great bullfrog—why are you so pressed about him? You never met him. Silence was (and still is) your boss. "I'm actually very smart" is one of those statements that immediately becomes untrue the second you say it. The idea that the Real is actually the dream and the Spirit is the Real is an interesting concept. Given the fact that the Wizards of the crown were the ones who captured and exploited Naram, threatened (and tortured) the Fox and try to harm and bind Ame and Eursulon, maybe the Wizards of the Crown are bad. Sorry I forgot Citadel and Empire are the exact same thing so it's always Citadel bad lol

Agiddysea

AME THE UNFLINCHING, FIRST OF HER NAME.

William Alexander

Brennan was not kidding when he told Eursulon that Keen was the most evil man he had ever seen, good lord. 5 minutes in and I was ready for him to die a gruesome death. What an episode! Dare I say, this is the best DnD actual play show on right now.

Aaron E

The STORY, the ACTING this episode was legit!!! bravo

Sam Weese

Eioghorain casually dropping Druidic cosmic horror on us damn

Jack Jones

The old creeky house noises made this feel like I was there! Taylor and Jared as always, amazing job on sound design.

Justin Smith (Barbarossa Builds, LLC)

real grrm style line at the end, beautiful

Alex H.

insane that the talking fox plush got to my house today of all days, after crying about the fox at 10 AM

Loch Thompson

Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed <3

Jorey Kay Mull

Yes we need to fight war with MOAR WAR. That always works.

Lojaan

I’m still not sure if it’s the null cleft, the sapphire pendant, or both working together. ?

Henry McParland

i would love if they answered this in the fireside because i was wondering the same thing!

Rex Beck

I remember. I just meant for other wizards that may find themselves labeled as traitors. More of a world building speculation. Like if a name cloak could only be removed with the aid of someone that knows the wizard's true name or if there's a super secret vault that stores true names in the event that cloaking needs to be undone or, alternatively, that no knowledge of the true name is required

Amaya

(Man remind me to submit that last scene to the animatic questionaire later omfg)

Ruvi

Hey Erika! What's it like having Ame Officially join the "she could kill me and id thank her" club?? ♔♔♔

Ruvi

my GOD yall: 1) these character revelations from Ame were so incredible hats off to Erika for your character creation and portrayal 2) i did not think we were gonna get rid of keen this quickly and i am THRILLED BEYOND BELIEF

Lauren

This episode was SO satisfying

James

The craziest thing in this episode was Brennan whipping out "aides de camp" -- AND pluralizing it correctly -- mid-improv without missing a beat.

Brandon Carbaugh

Softy's ring protects Suvi from scrying as noted in episodes 9 and 33.

Agiddysea

Same? Idk why it’s hot but it is šŸ˜†

Kalyn

OMG same experience with my baby daughter a few months ago! šŸ’• one day 1000% gonna share this with our kids.

Kalyn

WELL SAID

Kalyn

Ugh I felt so sad in that part, hoping our little guy will forgive and they’ll heal after that. 😩

Kalyn

This was a serious episode!! The storytelling, the acting…THE DICE! Imma ride this high for the rest of the week! Thank you guys for another epic episode!

Michae Burton-Schnüll

I came back to this too. Aabria has two of them now…hopefully she doesn’t forget to check.

Witch of the Remembering Bog

TAYLOR That KOYAANISQATSI ass throat singing vocal! Don't think I didn't catch you, the Wizard Score, absolutely flexing out here. What the fuck gang. What the absolute fuck. So good.

Sean Boyce

I am such a sucker for sequences where characters learn to embrace the more primal and animalistic parts of themself. Ame’s attempt to replace ā€œbe kindā€ with something just as restrictive and narrow minded was great. We see that the reason Ame makes these drastic erratic decisions on a whim is to repress herself and uphold an idealized version of her mentor. If she embraces who she is, a creature of mischief and cunning, she becomes a witch more suited to the World’s Heart she now tends to. Empires and misguided Spirits don’t fall through kindness.

irisilmaril

Hey guys this was fucking fantastic

irisilmaril

it has been said many times before but the world must be SO grateful that BLeeM is not real world evil

Lauren

I freaking knew it the dropping of the null cleft was the way the citadel could track it's wizards.

Glen Petrofski

Do we think that name cloaks can be revoked? Like in a world where Suvi wasn't protected from scrying in general, could the Citadel revoke the cloaking of a treasonous wizard and thus remove the protections a cloak provides?

Amaya

Yo where do I buy some of Lou’s Blackjack dice??

dain saint

As a chronic pain sufferer Brennan describes perfectly that ever increasing pain sensation that is not aided by any medication or technique.

Glen Petrofski

Perhaps it is the cast’s incredible storytelling, or the insane amount of animation I have consumed, but the visuals for this show go crazy. One of the best episodes yet!

Emily

piss check. piss check

sylvie

WITH THE SAVE! LET'S GOOO!

Dream Wizard Kyle Arca

https://discord.gg/jZMvrPSw one exists!

bluebluebutton

Truly it is unending this is one of the best shows ever

Joker

I'm taking notes over here as keen makes my skin crawl how to make a good villain right there my lord Brennan you sick twisted fuck I LOVE IT!!!

Joker

FUCK YEAH I feel like I need to do a fucking victory lap

Josie

I loved listening to Keen get his shit rocked. As always Brennan makes fantastic villains I love to hate

Beau Rydman

Mechanics wise. Was Ame’s first curse from last episode still in effect or did Keen have less than 20 hit points?

David Giannetti

ā€œPulling an Aabriaā€ and ā€œI GO HEREā€ - so much love for this story and the creators of it. I would posit the tooth pull was also Brennan pulling an Aabria oopa Burrows End style. So sick! Roll low, ROLL DEEPšŸ¤™

sabertruth19

Happy Birthday! 🄳

Wren

This is legit the best story I have ever been told before.

Moss V

banger after banger after banger

Crits

Brennan is legit scary when he needs to be. Everything with Ame hurt. Everything with Eursulon was epic. Everything with Suvi was amazing. To me the *weight* of this episode perfect.

Randon Beasley

That would be awesome šŸ˜Ž

Wren

ho. ly. fuck... the Ame flashback & reflection was insane, like you all go crazy with off-the-cuff scenes all the time but just another one for the fucking books. and the mental image of Keen's top half being held aloft by Ame's witches grasp as his bottom gets split in half by Eursulon is a thing of beauty, thank you for that haha

I cast Vicious Inspiration

Omg omg omg, that combat was SO GOOD!! We’ve had some intense and really great combats this campaign, but THIS?!? This was on another level!! It was smaller scale than a lot of battles, but I was so much more invested. And Brennan was rolling like shit too!! It wasn’t even that close, but I was still on the edge of my seat. The dice tell their story, and in this case, that story is ā€œdon’t mess with a witch.ā€

CommodoreBlue

TWENTY ONE!!!!!!!!!! GIVE IT UP FOR TWENTY ONE!!!!!!! MVP OF THE EPISODE IS THE NUMBER TWENTY ONE!!!!!!!!!

ceeg

I was thinking about the witch class and I wondered if we were going to see the start of a slide into wickedness, but I’m quite glad we didn’t end up there. ā€œTut tut, good witches aren’t mean even to people who torture us and our friendsā€ would not have felt great as a takeaway…

Erin

absoloutely baller episode. one of the best pieces of media ive ever had the joy to listen to. im literally overcome lmao i need more lore neooww

J cryingcrow

Edit: the existing link is posted! Hey, so like... y'all (fellow fans) wanna make a WBN discord? I think that'd be super fun. 🄰

Dream Wizard Kyle Arca

AIEEE this gave me chills! I feel like the Fox might not be happy with Ame for putting him in danger. This was hinted at when Ame first tried to reach out to him in her mind with the line something like "But you told him to go under that tarp and now you're both trapped". I hope he's not mad for too long!

Lace Cameron

I imagine it is a lot. Because I'm yelling just as much. Lol

Randolph McGurrin

AME.

Krystine W.

As long as we don't forget "be kind" along with "be cunning." I'll be curious to see how dark things get. Hopefully Ame's friends and her good heart keep her grounded.

GrumpyTrees

Dear Fireside Folk, we thank you. We thank you for the two great blessings this episode ended with, both the top half and the bottom half. We thank you for a perfect slice of narrative for a perfect bastard.

GrumpyTrees

HOLY SHITBALLS

Rachel Davis

I think we also see here, with Brennan's gentle condemnation of the goal for an individual's mantra to be "do right", that no one person can mend the world's heart on her own. That task is too vast and continual for any witch to accomplish on her own. In the end, community is not only the domain of the Witch of the World's Heart, but also the answer to how stewardship of that domain is accomplished.

bluebluebutton

Taylor - how much yelling do you have to edit out every time Brennan switches to a new scene? I have to imagine it is a lot.

Patrick

I adore Brennan's narrative ability to heighten drama - that scene with Ame lit by the lightning? Wow. So many awesome scenes for everyone this episode. Eursolon unleashing was something else. Hell yeah, Lou!

Romit Comet

Those of us who listened to the Children's Adventure knew that this story would grapple with child abandonment eventually, but even so I had to pause and cry for baby Ame. And then to get the explicit explanation from Erika that Ame chooses kindness in part to make people think she is normal made the neurospicy part of me feel very very seen. That moment felt like incredible representation for neurodivergent folks who have had to hone masking techniques to be accepted by even their own families.

bluebluebutton

Happy birthday!

Emily

A lot of good things being said about this amazing episode but I need someone to cast identify on the powdery dispelling agent from the glass coronet. I gotta know if that’s connected to a certain Npc with innate dispelling abilities šŸ‘€

Joshua Jones

Lol not a period to be seen… I’m so deeply in love with this story and world y’all have created. Thank you to everybody at WBN!!

Emily

The combined Aabria/Erika "yay-hey" around 1:05 might be one of my favorite sounds

Christina Eichorn

Damn, Brennan, not the Fox! Those screams hit hard, especially when Ame has to contend with that being a result of her choices and actions, and having to justify it all. I really do love Ame getting this moment and being able to see that kindness for her is not innate but an active choice she makes. And the growth in realizing her cunning. Its nice to see more demention underneath the "super kind witch trying to help everyone" thing that Ame always has going on

Chameleon

Deeply harrowing episode y’all!! But such amazing character driven moments for each and every one of them, y’all are all such amazing storytellers ✨ I was especially struck by Ame bc What a way to be reminded the heart of Ame’s character is struggling with these ingrained concepts of self and purpose and how to move through these disparate worlds as an imperfect individual. Choosing again to model herself after the standard her grandmother set, to DO ā€˜Right’, and seeing a beautiful aspect of herself, this Kitsune covered in blood, that could be seen as antithetical to the kindness she’s devotedly cultivated, in spite of the pain and cruelty she’s endured, can coexist and reminds her to Be Cunning!! She is not like anyone else, she never has been!! Ame and Eursulon beating Keen bc he well and truly underestimated and was staggeringly ill-informed of their will and power and what makes them individuals instead of collectibles of a set was so fucking satisfying, what a CREEP btw! I doubted the move to go for the statue but never again bc I will trust that those chickens you’re swiping Erika are delicious, thank you for this meal!

Emily

God, the SATISFACTION at the end of this episode! Feels like listening to Ame really come into her own here. And Eursulon really finding his confidence as a spirit in the last few episodes has been so amazing!

Krissi Carson

Oh, the scene with Ame. *Chef's kiss.* Leaving a bunch of blank space to avoid spoilers: I think we're now starting to see Ame realize that, in a way, Mirara was right about Grandma Ren. The rolling pins, the cups of tea, the encouragement to be kind. These things are good, and necessary for a peaceful world. But these things do not *end wars*. These things do not work if the person you're trying to convince refuses to meet you at the table. Ren spent over a century traveling the world, trying her best to help people and solve problems. But even after all her efforts, the World's Heart still seemingly beats in rhythm to the drums of war. Perhaps, she was *too* kind, too stubborn to change her approach in the face of what was happening. I think we're seeing Ame realize that Ren, while a phenomenal person and amazing witch, still failed to mend the World's Heart. So it's time for a different approach. The time for the carrot has passed. The time for the stick is here.

Brandon Brewer

With Yoren saying Steel couldn't handle that she wasn't actually "saving the citadel" and the fact that she told Suvi that Yoren killed her parents, I wonder if Steel has still been a somewhat true believer and this will be what breaks her out of that justification machine. Her daughter being accused of treason and the "soft arrest" that was definitely gonna have severe fallout could send her fully down the rabbit hole and get to the bottom of what actually happened to Soft & Stone (assuming she doesn't already know about it) I say severe fallout must have been guaranteed because Keen acted in a way that indicated that he didn't think he'd have to contend with Suvi for his actions against her friends

Amaya

(With affection) hello, this episode was exhausting and exhilarating, how fucking DARE YOU

Adrienne

I was walking with my son, 10 months old, in his stroller whilst listening to this episode. When I got to THAT scene with Ame, I gasped audibly and started getting teary-eyed with chills running up my arms and spine, so much so that I woke my son up. What a masterclass in storytelling, worldbuilding, foreshadowing and roleplaying. No notes. Exquisite.

Jesper P.R.L

Continued is the experience of an incredible amount of goosebumps, broad grins, and mouth agape. Finishing this episode with tears in my eyes and an exhilarating shout of ā€œYES!!ā€ with a fist punching the air. Absolutely, breathtakingly phenomenal . Screw any medium that’s not the theater of the mind!

AyunderfillVonScotchguerd

🤣

Myka Ozlynn

And stay down.

Myka Ozlynn

So many things to process!! But, I can’t stop thinking about the depth Erika is bringing to Ame. For me, the spirit fox scene just really brought to bear the difficulty Ame experiences balancing her disposition while holding the shifting weight of her station’s responsibilities. Wow! I’m super curious how facets of this scene opens new pathways and pitfalls for Erika to explore. Soooooooo gooooood!

Chris Lindgren

I have never been so close to throwing up listening to this podcast as I was the moment I realized See Invisibility was in play 😩😩😩😭😭😭 God! Yal are too good at this!

Nandi Kayyy

Omigud, omigud, omigud! Brennan, you are freaking me out! They're in the basement of a butcher shop which is in the middle of imperial war preparing soldiers, and they just made a bunch of violent noises... and you call it THERE!?!? Honestly, I would have it no other way! :-D

Shane Gallant

Having just re listened to the children’s adventure and arc 1… the call backs are beautiful and add so richness and depth to the story telling of this episode. Immediately need to re listen because there was so much happening, and my brain was working so hard to take it all in… breath catching, beautiful, scary, thrilling, and a joy/terror to listen to. Thank you to everyone who makes this podcast happen… the sound design, the epic story telling. Also, a little sad I’m all the way caught up on the podcasts and the fireside chats. The time between is so sad for me.

flyingwriter

You aren't Keen on him? Personally, I'm rather Split.

Alec Simkiss

Didn't even get twelve seconds šŸ˜‚

Amaya

i rewatched watership down this weekend and having ā€œAll the world will be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyedā€ fresh in my mind for the ame bit really put me in my feelings lol

Trish K

This episode is incredible, and could've used a content warning

The Wizard Sandalwood

I haven't finished the episode yet but "Do I know anything about you...? NAW." is such a good line delivery I had to pause my listen and come here and say something

Dezzi

aaaaand replaying immediately

Raquel Albert

I haven't even started and the title alone is giving me chills.

Lilith Evenstar

Happy Birthday Bev!! šŸŽ‰šŸŽ

Wren

Happy Birthday Molly!! šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‚

Wren

The episodes are long, but they never feel long enough. Amazing episode guys!

PharaohNoir

bro couldn’t even last a full minute against Ame and Eursulon 😭

Seth Carter

I don't know if podcasts can win a grammy for sound design but if they can I would like to start the campaign for Taylor now!

Byshera Williams

Brennan said "all you hear are screams", which was horrifying and bone chilling, but my brain immediately turned it into "all I hear are screams" from EPIC the Musical, which did help take the edge off.

Amaya

I can't explain how grateful I am that this didn't turn into an "I can fix him" "people can be persuaded into not being evil and cruel" type of thing. The kindest thing to do when dealing with those types of people is to choose to be kind to the world and make sure they can never hurt anyone else again.

Amaya

the line delivery of "Nah, not really..?..?" Was,,, so good 😭

Jaron Williams

I stan with Erika

João Padinha

WOWWWW WHAT AN EPISODEEEEE

Elana Kadish

So so so so so so very happy and now needing it to be 2 weeks from now for the next episode 🄰

Caliburn

The fact Ame chose not to deal the optional necrotic damage for Witches Grasp... I mean she is a lot kinder than she gives herself credit for.

Sean Bradley

I can't breathe! PERFECTION! 🤩 I'm crying and laughing, thank you all for this gift!

Trina McDaniel

Happy birthday šŸŽ‚ Molly

The Wizard Sparrow

Happy Birthday šŸŽ‚ Bev

The Wizard Sparrow

I was replaying The Retinue…

The Wizard Sparrow

Never have I been happier to have my birthday on a Tuesday

Poppy

Yes..yes..yes

The Wizard Sparrow

You have no idea!!!

The Wizard Sparrow

100%

The Wizard Sparrow

Also be in a location where vocal satisfaction from the dice rolls are not seen as crazy.

The Wizard Sparrow

I DO NOT LIKE THE WIZARD KEEN.

Rachael

Suvi has a moment at some point realizing that she knows more about witches than most of the Citadel, I think they just don't put a lot of effort into thinking about them.

Pyrohydriscence

Cunning to the Core…

The Wizard Sparrow

That would be amazing…also the Fox spirit in the mirror

The Wizard Sparrow

Erika’s ā€œhotā€ reaction got me rollingšŸ˜‚

The Wizard Sparrow

OMG….the best episode!!! I am still screaming in my apartment. That ending, split in half by wave breaker…my jaw is on the floor. Ame’s true spirit The Fox emraces her wisdom as she sinks her metaphorical teeth into Keen…and not to forget Suvi’s quest against the Citadel begins. I need to listen to this with others..in person..active discussions. I love posting here but seriously does anyone live in Milwaukee WI??

The Wizard Sparrow

BIG TW for animal... torture? Cruelty. And the sounds. So just... hopefully this can help steel at least one person against that cuz boy it sucked!

1man2hands

Incredible!!!!! This was so stressful!! Really looking forward to this new side of Ame! That cackle at the end was truly chilling.

Michelle Spurgeon

Right!? Don't think we can let the ending overshadow how huge that scene was for Ame.

Michael Mills

Updated with some rough timestampery Torture/sadism/cruelty (Throughout) Animal endangerment (with sound effects) (Largely throughout for general, sound effects at 9:59) Child endangerment/abuse (memory) (Starts around 24:00) Minor body horror (Multiple occasions as theoretical descriptions, 42:26 for act and sound effect, 54:44 for minor sound effect.)

SvenTS

Compartmentalization - add that to the reality Steel only gained a smattering of context, and probably reported what she learned to the higher echelon of the Citadel - who have a proclivity towards secrets

Onomatopecan

Obsessed with the 3 different reactions to Eioghorain's knife-tooth Lou: that was so gross Aabria: that was so cool Erika: that was so hot!

xatlern

"Be cunning" is a thing I tell myself every day to get what I need, so this was cathartic af to hear.

Sil

Wow, what an episode!

Steve D'Orazio

AHHHHHHH!!! Ame!!!! The reflection 😭

Ashley

the penumbra phantasma…

robo

Holy fuck. I promise I will use the form but I do have to scream here about how much I want that last scene animated. I know it's on the long end but HOLY FUCK! How satisfying.

Pyrohydriscence

Petition to rename this episode "Satisfying as Fuck". Absolutely buzzing after this one. Taylor, you continue to blow me away every episode with how immersive these episodes are and how you can capture everything so perfectly... Suspense, creepiness, gore, joy, sorrow, and even somehow putting a bow on pure badassery. Chef kiss!

Michael Mills

Thank. Fuck.

Sil

Literally no misses in this arc! Did anyone else find it interesting that Keen / the Glass Coronet did not seem to know about the Coven of Elders? I totally imagined them as a sort of covert intelligence faction under the royal family, so it seems strange to me that they wouldn’t be aware of the CoE in the way Steel and other Tower-wizards seem to be.

Luke

Minor spoilers to follow. This episode is a heavy one. Make sure you're in the right space and mindset to handle it. Some content warnings include, but probably aren't limited to: Torture/sadism/cruelty Animal endangerment (with sound effects) Child endangerment/abuse (memory) Minor body horror The payoffs are worth it - but the cost of riding the ride are high as well. So make sure you're ready before jumping on board.

SvenTS

Yahoo hloʻo Crackle Crackle. Can't wait to go down this latest Fox Hole by these amazing storytellers. Many thanks to all involved in helping bring these incredible tales to us!!

Ryan L.

screaming crying throwing up

Emily C

Oh Ame, your AuDHD punished by the world is so captivating and beautiful and relatable

Rina the Floof

Haven't watched yet and this is the first comment I see šŸ˜… I know it's gonna be good now!

Joker

Lou yelling "JESUS, Brennan" made my whole day.

Aryn Davis

I'm voting for slowly eaten alive by Eioghoran and the Fox.

Pyrohydriscence

I'll give you the help action

Raquel Albert

Hoooooboy that was an episode. Amazing payoffs - but damn there's an emotional cost of entry to reach them. Make sure you listen when you're in the right space.

SvenTS

Yo Brennan what the fuck

Rina the Floof

What a lovely way to wake up

Ro Lara

I'm only 15m in but I need Keen to die - the more slowly and painfully, the better.

chiralitycounts

Omgomgomg its here!

Pyrohydriscence

Hooooly shit that beginning. Spoiler Spoiler Content warning 9:59 - Torture and Fox screams

SvenTS

Happy birthday! šŸŽ

Jules O

God, I love Tuesdays

Jules O

Happy birthday!!!

Bev

That reaction when the ep drops a little earlier than normal... Didn't know I was capable of making such a high pitched squeal. I am so excited for this one!

Michael Mills

I only hope they put us through even more emotional distress, I wouldn’t want anything less

Bev

Very heavy day today and I am so thankful for this little escape. Much love everyone!!!

OminousOwl

Happy birthday, birthday twin!

Molly Gould

I paused the Children’s Adventure episode I was already listening to so I could play the new WWWO episode that just dropped lol

Chanelle-Lize

Happy birthday!!!

OminousOwl

Happy birthday!

OminousOwl

Gonna listen to this episode with my new plush fox!

Tyler Sweeney

Happy birthday to meeeeee!!!

Bev

Thank you for this wonderful (and totally intentional) birthday present šŸ˜‰ ā™„ļø

Molly Gould

Cheeeee!

Stefanucci Mozzarella


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