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[PUBLIC EPISODE] The Wizard, the Witch and the Wild One: ep030 "The Snake"

Aren't you thirsty, brother? Here is the well of stars. Here, the dark waters of the river. There, a bubbling spring. Drink deeply, and consider what swims and writhes beneath. For like a forked tongue flicks back and forth, like the great claw taps against the glass (To be let in? To be let out?) a clock, somewhere, tiks and toks unceasing, making what will be what is. And we are all full of snakes.

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Brennan Lee Mulligan

Erika Ishii

Aabria Iyengar

Lou Wilson

Produced, designed, and scored by Taylor Moore  at Fortunate Horse with exquisite design and editing help from Jared Olson.

SPECIAL THANKS TO: Tazer Army, Shannon, and Amanda Freberg.

Album art by the great Corey Brickley

Comments

I forgot that the chalice thing was connected to the MiB in this episode!!! I cannot wait to see how it connects in Book 2 🏆

Alyssa

DAmmmmmn

OneGirlPainting

Soooo does the watch bend time like mirara bends light? It’s got to, right?!??!! Because how else could the man in black be walking steadily and catch up to everyone.?!? 😱 I love this plot line!

OneGirlPainting

It’s SO freaking great!

OneGirlPainting

I'm still confused as to when someone danced... I thought I was paying enough attention to be able to catch it so I'd know when the music box was good to go

1man2hands

Ame’s conversation with Tefmet made me imagine her as a child actively approaching strange men and asking to hang out in their nondescript white vans :D

Liuba M

Hey there, it seems you might be confused about how podcasts work. You can actually add the RSS yourself. The RSS address for the public feed is public, freely available, and very easy to find. I’d post it for you here but Patreon is not allowing me to post a full url, probably to stop spam posting. But if you google “worlds beyond number rss” it’s literally the first result. Hope this helps!

Worlds Beyond Number

I'd really like for you guys to upload the podcast to YouTube music (It supports RSS feeds. Been really frustrating since they absorbed Google podcasts to not be able to listen for sometimes a week or more. This episode still isn't up)

Thisjus10

I am right there with you. The last 24 hours have been a whirlwind of emotional highs and lows. I still have the fireside chats to listen too

The Wizard Sparrow

I have spent the last three to four weeks engulfed in this podcast and the last 24 hours on the last three episodes (a.k.a. 1:30am 7/10) on a constant alert of OMG. My neighbors probably think I’m crazy. I keep trying to get my family/friends to join me on my roller coaster of emotions for this podcast but they won’t. So I am here sharing my intense love for this amazing podcast.

Tiffany Burnett

Wow. Both this and last week's episode had me on tenterhooks by the end. I was on the bus as Bodse (sp?) ate Ersulon last week and felt myself coming back as the theme music started. Complete transportation. I love this so much.

Lotta Andersson

Ame/Tefmet giving "You want to build a snowman? 👁🗝" But replace snowman with "... incite a rebellion?"

Sil

So I found WBN maybe 2 weeks ago and boy were these last weeks the best I've had in a while, making art while listening to the flip flopping of the hyper produced, beautifully and intricately told stories of WWW contrasred by the wild and unruley playback podcasts and I couldn't think of a better way to spend my time. And then, like the dropping of a guillotuine, the story was over. Hours and hours of content flooded away leaving only the last minute for me to realize. Oh. There is no more. And I low key wanna cry. Anyways great episode catch me in listen through #2

Paige Bowen

I thought he for a second that Eursulon was going to ask The Man in Black for his name. Brennan for sure has plans for that pocket watch, though. Remember Lou, the most powerful form of magic is chronomancy.

Samwise_the_G

AT LAST, THE CURSE UPON AABRIA'S LUCK IS BROKEN

Saleibriel

Brennan, have you and Lou taken that red eye to JFK to ray Artichoke pizza? I'm currently going back to listen to Unsleeping City season 2 (&accompanying AP) and need an update on this amazing sounding pizza!! 💙

Blake Vaught

Aabria's move with using Vandal to shimmy her way out of that sticky situation was one of the most brilliant and badass things I've ever seen, and Ame's conversation with Tefmet was simultaneously so warm and so thrilling, and Eursulon talking to the Man in Black was straight out of a Western in the best way, and Brennan is a freaking madlad across the board, and we already know Taylor's a genius, holy cow, one of the best episodes yet

Adarsh Nednur

this is beautiful

Shannon

Can we confirm my head cannon that one of the things Vandal writes in the library is akin to "The Bitch of Breaking Wind & Sharts," please and thank you?

Ted Meredith

I get Dark Tower vibes from King of Night. Almost like he's someone who has a six-shooter on his hip. The more we learn, the more questions we have, and I think that is a fantastic build up for a villain.

Whyse Wytch

Heavy Tarot imagery. The art is gonna be so sick.

Alec Simkiss

That set of dice was fucking cursed

Alec Simkiss

It's interesting how southern the Man in Black feels to me. Like, he feels like a Working Man™️ in his vibe. Long well made leather boots, old hat, sitting in shadows, I forget the rest of his clothing but I wouldn't put it past him to wear overalls or some kind of jump suit, plus him wearing a belt that a massive sword could be strapped to? Weirdly, the Man in Black does feel in the shape of a man. I do not believe he is human, but his imagery...there's something more to him. It's as if the working man got turned classic southern and potentially Eldritch. He's so cordial, too, and polite. What is his fucking deal???

Alec Simkiss

“With it I can cut the spring from a man’s step and the apple from his eye.” Holy shit.

Matt Kilsby

My jaw fell open several times this episode, in delight and in awe. I was so wrapped up in the story my boss found me standing stock still on the street outside instead of entering the hostel building and laughed at me for a full five minutes. 😂. Wonderful collaborative storytelling.

Joanne Moody

I got, "Time for bed and a long deep sleep"??

Ashley Teatum

Same, but I feel like there's no way you could have done that without it being disrespectful 😂

Rain

Hey y'all I NEED to know for some reason what the antivallist Tefmet (?idk spelling or even the word lol?) said in a muffled voice behind the door, like the very last thing the character said ?

ROBiN

Our man’s trying to break his “Headfirst-into-Unknown-Holes” addiction, we have to support him

bloops

After the stunt with the table, the world said he better work for his title

bloops

When the stranger asked item or question I was SCREAMING Eursulon pick question and ask what his true name is!!!!!!!!! I love what he picked though and I'm so excited to learn about that pocket watch

Haley Nicholson

FUCKING FINALLY Aabria got some new dice and Rolls well!!!

Esper Rivers

if I had a nickel for every time Eursulon had an unbearable weight/pressure pushing down upon him I’d have 2 nickels (inside Badze & under the sea after freeing Naram) which isn’t a lot but hilarious that the Strongest Man in Silbri keeps having that happen to him 😄

I cast Vicious Inspiration

"I'm Nurse Fox!" HE'S SO ADORABLE, I LOVE HIM 😭🦊❤️

Sydney Jay

Drop. The. Ink demon. Art.

Aubrae C

Brennan. How dare you make a fae aphorism out of country idioms. Cut the apple from his eye. Skin the shadow from his boot. It's all great plains ass country energy, but it has this fey insistence with all sorts of double entendre. Every act is separating light from dark; the shadow from its source, the pupil (apple) from its eye, the dark clouds of thunder from the visible burst of bright lightning. But every act also takes away something of beauty: the apple of your eye, that which you cherish most or your literal ability to see, either way leaving you blind to beauty; the shadow from your boot, would leave unable to touch the ground, untethered, maybe even lost in darkness, leaving you blind; to split the lightning from the thunder leaves only the ominous toiling of a dark storm, again leaving you in darkness and taking away moments of terrible beauty. Even having lightning and thunder lets you know how close the storm is by the distance of its separation. Without it, with only thunder, you can't tell how far away the storm really is. If it's getting closer or moving away. YIKES my guy. That fuckin SLAPS.

Sean Boyce

Cut the apple from his eye literally made me gulp with nerves. It sounds like a cute expression, but the apple of your eye is either the thing you most love to look upon or literally the darkness at the center of your eyeball, the pupil. Either way, yipes. The latter is literal blindness. The former is taking from you either the thing your cherish most *or* your ability to cherish things, cutting away that part of your essence which can do so. Yipes.

Sean Boyce

I mean I get it, though I did really want Ursulon to take that free level in Warlock.

Adam Curtis

Wands and staves, swords, cups, and a coin of a watch…

annemjw

Hey brennan, what was your inspiration for the stranger in black?

John Lancaster

The stranger in black might be my favorite character.

John Lancaster

Idk how he did it but Brennan somehow made me forget Lou had been SWALLOWED BY A TORSO for most of this episode

Megs

Amazing ep, just wanted to say Brennan you're the kind of GM I aspire to be. Question for Lou, Erika and Aabria: How do you guys deal with bad situations so well?

Dandley

I think I’m gonna say it. Best ep so far.

The Wizard Spicy 🌶️

Yes!! I did not make that connection, but damn I can't unhear it now

larkermouse

You wrong for that. However, you are right.

Koi Boi Tracy

House-style diagnostic procedural where it's the Fox just being like "The patient has a big stick through his torso. And that's...bad for humans. They do not enjoy that."

Brandon Carbaugh

Literally relistening to that one rn

Faith Price

THE KING OF CUPS, PEOPLE

Esotericrow

Incredible episode. So many big moments. Can't wait for the talk back. Was Eursulon's conversation with our favorite antagonist spirit just between him and the DM again?

The Wizard Saison

AMAZING show and AMAZING sound design and music as always omg!!

Raine

Ready for the Nurse Fox spinoff!

Jordan T. Maxwell

Big day for vore enthusiasts

Krusty Bo Busty

God this ep was great. From Aabria covering her tracks with Vandal and the amazing rolls (I was 40% certain that the Glass Spider was gonna be Suvi's wizard familiar), Ame *immediately* jumping in to help without any context, Eursulon having such a time of it but having such an impactful conversation. The reveal of the Chalice and the description of the sword was so incredible and has locked me in for the interest of this fuckin antagonist. Gah, incredible work

Witch of the Whirling Storm

MIB just be handing off a what sounds like a talisman to a party with a Witch in it 😏

Sil

TAYLOR! TAYLOR! The fuckin, brass when Tefmet appeared! The way that it was slow and swooping and very counter to the very imperial bursts that we hear usually from the Citadel. AND THE FEW LITTLE NOTES ON THE PIANO HIDDEN IN THERE??? SUVI'S INSTRUMENT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? *I SEE YOU*

Witch of the Whirling Storm

I have several comments, but most importantly, IF YOU TURN THE TAROT SUIT OF CUPS/CHALICES INTO SOME KIND OF BBEG MOTIF (I think that's the right phrase) I'MA BE REAL MAD FAM. Cups are my favourite of the four 😭

Sil

Give the people what they want. RELEASE THE CUSS-CUT

Sil

Holy shit y‘all. Unparalleled as always

Leo

Living for this Dead Eye AU in which his spirit becomes the Man in Black...

Krystine W.

"Well I appreciate the tea and the 𝓽͟𝓮͟𝓪͟"

Brandon Scott Robertson

YOOOOOOOO 🔥

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

Man in black had real "saint of killers" energy from preacher. Even a slight southern drawl (to my English ears anyway!). Brennan is king of a 🔥 monologue

The Wizard S_

O B S E S S E D with the Man in Black. Such big Stephen King vibes. "It's sharper than a spinster's tongue and harder than a miser's heart. With it I can cut the spring from a man's step and the apple from his eye. I can part the lightning from the thunder and skin a man's shadow from his boot with this blade." Like was this improvised???? hnnnng absolutely feral

d2k

Uggghhhhh….. it’s never enough!!! I need more!! Well done team! I don’t think I could ever pick a favorite episode.

LuChiChi4

BRO GOT VORED

Carla D.

ooh really thought Eursolon may jump in the well with the sword instead of attaching it to the Man in Black's belt. That probs would've opened a bit of a can of worms 🪱

lilgreenghoulie e

Soo, any bets that the consequence for the MIB drawing his sword is Morning Wren Song's retributive witch curse?

Fxd Gear Queer

also the quickest the blood has ever drained from my face in the first minute and thirty seconds (wild)

Katie Butler

Ame: "I'm full of snakes!" XD

Katie Butler

I too was really keyed in on that and the potential sumbologuu

Care Bear

What is a chalice but a vessel for water? What is water but a vessel for snakes? It's snakes all the way down I tell ya, always has been!

Will H.

That last line! "Next we meet as adverseries, but always brothers." "I choose a gift, to rememeber you by" Just 1000% FIRE

meesanime

Holy crumbs, gang. That was epic.

Barron Botts

Every blade is gory, if wielded with intent! Love the catch, I don't know if the Man in Black has any true physical power or if he must manipulate others

bitterbaldguy

So good!!!

bitterbaldguy

Love the fact that the description of what the Man in Black's sword can do did not include any "physical" harm. Skin a shadow, remove the apple from a man's eye, sharp as a spinster's tongue. All just metaphors. It's a metasword. Or a bladegory.

Joshua rassier

That reverse rain road was creepy as hell!

Lilith Evenstar

My brain cannot put any of the clues together but boy I’m loving the fucking mystery

Molly Gould

Truly one word. Confidence. The confidence to be honest "I do plan to kill your friends", the confidence to be amicable to a foe "whatever choice you make is yours alone, I will not harm you here", and just... fucking confidence, "Do not feel compelled brother, know that whatever you choose, I WILL succeed". 🪭🥵

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

I saw it as implying that the Man in Black is who taught Ruve to create such entities , maybe?

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

My eyes got wide at that point too, having just re-listened to episode 2 and being struck by how much of the shadows power was described as VERY Mirara

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

For the unnamed run of slurs I immediately jumped to "SuperCuntAFuckYouBitchYourAssIsQuiteAtrocious"

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

It was off the dome. The boy is a FREAK. -t

Worlds Beyond Number

Oh man, Hakea's aging makes more sense to me now. And Aabria's got one hell of a good memory. (And the BEST ink demon.) And and I also used that fruit in a chain of insults recently. ^_^

Bean Planter

Also the ending of this ep gives new meaning to the episode titled "King of Cups"

Jack Jones

That description of the stuff the Man in Black can do with his sword was an incredibly sick bit of prose. I don't know if that was jotted down or just completely off the dome, but goddamn.

Brandon Carbaugh

To skin the shadow from a mans boot is such a raw line man holy moly

Jack Jones

Same here!

Jack Jones

I agree that it would've been interesting, but I don't think he's ready for a move like that. Not to say that *not* taking it isn't a big move in and of itself. That is him denying his fae "family" (faemily, if you will) for Ame and Suvi, which will definitely have consequences, it'll just take longer for those to appear. The stakes of being potential enemies with The Man in Black is a braaave move

McKenna

The Stranger is my muse

Chappy Hall

Agiddysea

We love some solid shenaniganery. Making the most satisfying use of Vandal ever is just [chef's kiss] perfection. I was SO WORRIED about Eursalon getting potentially *digested* by Badze, but WOW what a chat with The Man in Black. I'm really hoping that "chalice" thing was just confirming that he was the one possessing the captain and not an omen of some even-greater entity holding sway over them both.

Danielle St John

WH AT IS THE TAROT IMAGERY ABOUT the ace of wands?? The king of cups??? Now a vest of cups WHAT WHAT WHAT DOES IT MEAN

lunarsummer

The Man in Balck describing his sword was poetic, profound, and beautiful.

The Overthinker

Yuuuuuup!

Dream Wizard Kyle Arca

Gods I’m so stressed about Ame and Suvi debriefing in the room with the scarf 😭

Makenzie

So that's how we're just going to start the episode huh?

Jasmine A Golphin

Are we sure Lou is rolling the right die???

Michelle Spurgeon

"IM FULL OF SNAKES" lol

I Davis

The way I FIST PUMPED at that ROLL 🤌🤌🤌

Ashley Teatum

Thank you for pointing this out. Details like this are are hard for me to pick out. i will have to go back and pay special attention to the music in the Tephmet's intro!

Dominic Corbin

I believe in you! You can fix him 🙃

Fxd Gear Queer

How does Brennen describe such hot people? How is The Stranger so hot?

Bree Manahan

That wizard roll!! That ending!! The last 10ish minutes gave me actual goosebumps!!

BingusBongos

Yeeeeeeeeeeah, I was super worried about them basically spilling ALL THE TEA right after Brennan mentioned the scarf. It felt like a huge flag being waved and ignored. It could be that they'd both forgotten (I mean, who among us, right?) or they were playing like Ame and Suvi forgot. Either way, I really feel like, if Indri heard that, shit might go down sooner rather than later. That being said, confronting the World's Heart Retinue publicly would be admission of a mistake-- what will her pride allow her to do next? This WitchCon has already been a murderfest-- it may end up becoming a bloodbath. Also, yes, I had to stop myself from cheering out loud with Aabria's rolls. I couldn't stop myself from applauding, though! LMAO @ the Mean Girls quote 😂

Whyse Wytch

Nice challenge to Eursulon's honour: Not to choose to engage in it or not, yet to examine what and whom to honour. A.G.

Aussie Griffin

Suvi really bugs bunny’d her way past the ice queen!! dat oughta hold her awight…

robo

TAYLOR!!! The French horn and piano during Tephmet’s introduction worked so well! The horn is perfect to give us tones of citadel brass with the warmth of Ame’s themes. I listened to that introduction three times 📯

Sarah

I have never just fist pumped so hard as when Aabria rolled well on important and badass wizard shit. Damn what an episode.

VeritaAmore87

I was fearing that when they were talking by the well, but it doesn't fit with what else we know about the Man In Black. Anyone catch the significance of the cloth pattern?

Dominic Corbin

Man I need like 30 more minutes of this episode. Aabria is rolling so well and Lou is just biffing it left and right LOL, poor Eurselon. I'm glad he's not dead, and it seems like Heinrule might not actually be dead either??? Who knows. Every interaction with The Man in Black I just have goosebumps the whole time. And now I gotta relisten to the EP with Emless, truly a lifetime ago. But she was a vessel, he's got cups, get it? If this is a long con Monty Python joke I will be a little mad but mostly impressed. Your mother was an Antivellist and your father smelt of kudzu kind of a thing. Ame clearly has no chill with just straight up asking Why doesn't your name start with an S? Like, you can't just ask people why they're white, Gretchen!!! So much for her wading into a shallow end first vs deep end whenever she meets a new person OMG. She even told this person she recovered memories recently??? Like just truly spilling all her guts, she is so stressed out. THE WIZARD SKY IS TRULY EATING IT UP, dang those rolls are superb. I love the mode of distraction, but I am slightly worried that the scarf is still in her rooms even if it's under stuff. Do we know that muffling it even helps??? Time to listen again and again.

Emily C

The first 3 minutes of description were SO GOOD, the horror fan inside me is CHEERING.

lunarsummer

CRAZY BONKERS THEORY: what if the Man in Black is a corrupted sprit of Sir Curran?

Miriam Meeks

I haven’t even listened to the ep yet but that description gave me SHIVERS! Also anyone else reminded of “This is the water, and this is the well. Drink full, and descend.” ? 🫢😏

Casey Furtado

Absolutely pounding my desk with my hands after every roll by our Wizard. Amazing ep.

Patrick

The Man In Black is such a compelling entity. I really hope we get to learn more about them in the future. Excellent episode, and I am glad Vandal survived his magnum opus

James O'Dwyer

I find myself really liking that The Stranger consistently returns to the theme of autonomy- which feels very Wild-One; a Cowboy code to match his appearance one might say. "Your will is your own", "I will not compel you", "You make your own choices"; he also seems to bear no ill will against those choices "We will take the field of battle as friends or foes, but we will always be brothers." Maybe I'm just easy to manipulate, but, then again he also seems relatively honest with Eursalon "I tried to kill Wren here / I do seek to destroy your friends." I love a great opposing force / 'bad guy' with a Code. You've got me Hook Line & Sinker With this character Brennan! Hmmmm *remembering how all of my other mysterious misunderstood noble bad-boy crushes ended* NAHHHHH, this time it'll be different, he's different! You just don't understand him like I do!😋

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

Allow me to repeat the sentiments of other commenters... Brennan, what the fuck? 😱 Damn, that was such an epic episode. Aabria had such epic rolls for once. Out of celebration I found myself fist pumping the air more intensely than a Rocky montage.

Michael Mills

Is the wolf man alive still? Getting flashbacks to the guardian ape from Sekiro

Sam Thomas

hey brennan what the fuck

Miriam Meeks

The description of the sword gave me chills, Brennan what the fuck!?

John

Spill 👏🏻 the 👏🏻 tea

Sil

Ame out here quoting Uncle Iroh 😭

Shannon Leimbach

Me too! Just around dinner time

Glen Petrofski

"I don't only carry good drinking tea" Ame?!?!?!

Glen Petrofski

Exact same thought LOL

Whyse Wytch

This is a life saver ❤️

Lojaan

Vore fans rejoice(?)

SvenTS

Here we go, I love my time zone (CET) 😋

Fxd Gear Queer

Nom nom nom

Magnolia Eve

In think my brain unconsciously saw the ' brother' at the end of the sentence and read the first part in the Strangers voice - We are all full of snakes sounds like Hakea wisdom? WEEEEE!

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

My body is ready and I am ensnared

Sam A.

Here we go!

Whyse Wytch

I know!!!! It is too long a wait

Glen Petrofski

Ahh I’ve been waiting all week for this!!!! Thank you Brennan, Erika, Aabria, Lou and Taylor for making my day 🙈

Ellen Wrathall


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