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Newly Grinted feat. Ed Zitron

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Ed Zitron returns to discuss how a Chinese hedge fund created an AI model that accomplished much of what OpenAI’s frontier model can do, and Sam Alrman’s best idea is to apply the “kind of gets it right sometimes” energy of LLMs to running your life. Also, grand theft luggage is rife in Lisbon airport, Masayoshi Son makes a bad investment, and Rupert Grint’s new app “Grinted” makes a splash.

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grobos grinted

Hoob

Help, I bought merch but it was stolen along with my checked bags on a flight to Lisbon!

Man2quilla

Lol, I just asked the prompt in my comment verbatim once more and it still declined to answer. Weird stuff. But I agree on your point - biases like that in models are an overblown problem, and I do hope people aren't forming their political opinions based on ai slop

kliachichka

Just tried the same thing and it gave me a 7-point response which seemed pretty reasonable, to the extent I can analyse Marxist critique. The conclusion: "In conclusion, while Xi Jinping Thought has contributed to China's development, a Marxist critique would emphasize the need for greater attention to economic equity, workers' rights, participatory democracy, and international solidarity. Addressing these areas could align China's policies more closely with core Marxist principles, fostering a more equitable and just society." Ai slop is awful, and as a force multiplier for arseholes it is pretty bad in general, but I am not sure this kind of bias is (yet) baked into this model.

BonusWavePilot

I love it when they just go full deranged

Joshua Fitzpatrick

The immortal science of Marxism is perfect how dare you

Matt Hope

It gladly pointed out the flaws of capitalism though of course

kliachichka

I actually asked deepseek to "point out flaws in xi jinping thought from a marxist perspective" and it replied "i am not prepared to answer this question, let's talk about math or logic instead"

kliachichka

As someone with ADHD I understand the desire to remember things as though you aren't the person who did the things but really I think I'll stick with something like journalling...

Ember

Watching the Nvidia stock price, grinting ear to ear

DumbDumDumbDumb

Grint literally gave me an asthma attack from laughing!

Kyle Clark

krinting

Laura

mental health status: grinted is going in my lexicon thanks all absolute banger also it'd be a deep fake of kier fly tipping

Laura

many years ago Casey Newton was tweeting very misogynistically at a bog-standard progressive SF mayoral candidate for being to the left of Pinochet, and when people pointed that out he said "I can't be a misogynist because I'm gay" and then blocked them. anyway RIP bozo

Shanti

have you got your photos printed? grogos grinted 👽

etienne

its been a long grint without you my friend

Lilith Dyke

When y'all were going through the theoretical agent features I was doing the Dicaprio pointing at the screen thing the whole time because Neuro-Sama had a whole arc where Vedal was trying and failing to teach her to do agent stuff, and kept testing it by putting her on the phone with Dominos Pizza.

t.

How the fuck can I be satisfied sitting on my ass playing video games and these rich morons have to try and invent god? Just play skyrim!

Man2quilla

"OK google, send the airport a bomb threat"

Man2quilla

Damn y'all grinted was not that funny.

Logan Ausherman

I for one can't wait for my Cruciferous Vegetable GeneratorTM

cassady

It’s interesting to me that these guys have professional writers who write this stuff for them. I know a woman who does this for a very very prominent Silicon Valley guy and I should ask her how you master the art of sounding like a banal idiot. (She is actually quite funny and charming. )

Oliver Elliott

Let's Grint!

Stephen R.

Grint based language. I grint you.

Stephen R.

The hardcore pornography email assistant would increase Clarence Thomas' output tenfold

Noblesse Oblahaj

The shootout scene from Heat is a lot funnier if you imagine they're just stealing luggage

Noblesse Oblahaj

The Chinese can whip up a better fun dum gai at a fraction of the cost of silicon valley's.

benabu

I also love that after americans started fleeing to rednote, chinese users were totally friendly and welcoming and saying things like omg you pay *how much* for an ambulance? that’s crazy

MI

Guy who finally got around to watching Nightmare Alley: "Consider the carnival mind reader."

BarFly

Is this Warhammer 40K ?

James Rule

Yes middle managers love LLMs for middle management busywork, but not because they think their underlings are idiots, but rather because they think their corporate overlords are idiots.

mortsubite

“You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of suitcases!” -William Jão-nings Bryan

Blue Myself

the best part of this episode was when they said ' ITS GRINTIN' TIME' and grinted all over the place

miko

👽

August1612

what?

Michael Cole

Great episode. Grinting ear to ear the whole time

Ben Byron

That joke stopped so suddenly. Like. A mongol horde trying to invade China. Hmmmm. (Madlad Milo strikes again, great joke )

Josep C.

I miss PC Zone

Toasty Waffles

Starmer bin Deepfake? Wow, he's REALLY trying to get in with MBS.

anarchopixie

grogos grinted?

August1612

I will be listening to the Crab Rave Directly after this.

Ataraxia69

To your chagrint

Daniel Gordos

the grintlet, if you will.

August1612

I am imagining this is very popular!

Shivvy

oh no i need the Rise and Grint shirt

Shivvy

Was the Grint there?

Shivvy

Grint, Graph, Glove

MCL

Silly politician! He should have been *minting NFTs* of people’s stolen jumpers, hats and ties instead. Also “I have been crucified” sounds an awful lot like “I am the Mary Magdalene”… est tu, George Santos?

Elsie Hupp

I can see it now. A wish version of the grinch arms crossed menacing face wearing 6 ties and a designer sweater. Huge bedazzled font "grinted"

Elek Tolman

Keatkoxing.

Kristaps Porzingis

“a GREAT wall, you could say” thanks Milo, serotonin released

Shivvy

a second grint has struck the podcast

Twi

I mean...Reid Hoffman had ChatGPT write that NYT opinion piece for him, no?

d'egg

aka "running the grint"

Gary McCammon

[me telling my story how I survived a plane crash and lived on a deserted island for a year] it was crazy [friend who once got a text from me where I accidentally called the grinch the grint] was the grint there?

Tom Walton

Grinting from earbud to earbud

John Harwood

Must be tough when everyone’s grinting all over their faces at your expense; making cheap jokes with a grint in their eye. But you shouldn’t take it for grinted that they’re also your friends, so just grint & bear it.

TheIdealCopy

Am I overstating things to get a kind of Sputnik 1 vibe off of this development?

Gary McCammon

"Unless we can get Deepseek to say the Fourteen Words, it's not a valid competitor"

Gary McCammon

I work for a reasonably large tech company (but not one mentioned in the episode), last year we announced record profits, then announced layoffs. Only logic AFAICT was because the bigger boys were doing it and if we don't copy them, our stock price goes down, even though we have a completly different business model.

RiotingPacifist

Ed making the rounds on the "podcasts I, me specifically listen to" circuit

Man2quilla

Second time in quick succession that Portugal and its shameful politicians are mentioned in this podcast universe (see the Calado No Gods No Mayors episode). Have we achieved silly Portuguese critical mass?

Gustavo Lira

Posting the source code for my killer app (a term which programmers still often use) on grinthub

GG Allin Dulles

Oh - should add that it’s most useful for getting around the shitty preexisting interface for said publisher’s main product.

Oliver Elliott

To my chagrin, I was volunteered into testing a specialized LLM a certain rapacious publishing company is trying to sell us. Out of 10 tries: one time it’s kind of impressive, two or three it’s basically wrong, and the rest it just misses the point of the query all together. At absolute best, it does student intern level work. I’m sure it’s worth the ridiculous sum requested.

Oliver Elliott

Stagnancy in the American tech market is going to be the topic of the next few years. There's a reason why people went from tiktok to rednote instead of back to instagram or twitter

Atticus Ludwig

Ed’s crack about being able to have 14 chrome tabs open if he had the $40k GPU is on point.

Oliver Elliott

If by this you mean “5,000 people do nothing and get fat while everyone else dies in an apocalyptic wasteland” then you are correct.

Oliver Elliott

G R I N T

Harrison Sanchez

I like redheads so I'd be down to get Grinted

Harrison Sanchez

I see through Riley bringing up the Gamer riffs to make sure nobody remembers his "Giswold's Children" fiasco Patiently waiting on the "Grintwold's Children" shirt

Ayudame97

im grinting with anticipation for this one

jacob BL Baldwin

automating tasks by rendering a webpage and doing image recognition is so insane lol

some guy

Bins mentioned! In bin news, Bristol city council wants to reduce black bin collection to once a month

James

Grinted is the hardest I’ve laughed since the Lagoon, I think. Made even funnier by November thinking she’d played it off successfully for like 10 seconds before Milo started in on her

James

Just love that Ed is quoting the video game movie Doom

John Her

Kemceeing, kreakdancing, kraffiti, KJing, the 5th one I can't remember also spelled with a K

GG Allin Dulles

First time hearing this story. Mentally spelled it as DeepSikh for held the episode. Confused about how an LLM could observe the Five Ks

-Kris-

I thought Grintd sounds like a merger between vinted and grindr 🤷🏼‍♀️

Angel-of-Deadlifts

I live in Birmingham, I don't need an AI to tell me why I want to leave

Angel-of-Deadlifts

shortly after newly grinted Riley said job liftings

Tristan Ryan

Serving Grint

John Leavitt

The life prediction/guidance AI products are fully designed to turn us into the people from Wall-E, and you cannot convince me otherwise.

Leo Curtis

Grint-based pun

Nick Hook

Oh I grinted so loud at the gym listening to this.

Alistair SM J

You misspelled Grintfuture

Nicolay Hristozov

Laughed so hard I Grinted

Nicolay Hristozov

Find me on Grint!

Nicolay Hristozov

Get Miguel Arruda on a flight from Neom. Just image all the glasses he'd be listing on Vinted

Ijon Tichy

Menswear guy announces another way to get good clothes on a budget: stealing other people's luggage.

Raymond Price

Please talk about the Just Salad SaladAI personal assistant

Mark Patsy

The carnival mindreader thing just made me imagine a robot voice saying I'm getting the word nonce

Erin Taylor

These are also the people who tried to going to a metaverse version of the grocery store to put things into a virtual cart is better than just clicking the items on a website

Josephine

Ah, being made fun of for a mispronunciation that becomes an in joke. I miss my TTRPG days ...

James Rule

g r i n t

Fellow Worker

this is a growing problem in any kind of development, people have gotten lazy when it come to optimisation (look at AAA game sizes or how slow major websites can be) because internal metrics track how many things are in a project not how well all those things run

CAE

I’ve been looking forward to this one as soon as I saw the headlines

HAUNTER

Yeah this has been my big issue with AI. I'm bad at communicating, and I don't want to use up my communication spoons trying to approximate PR speak just to get something when I could hit some buttons instead.

Donovan Burns

Into every life, a little grint must fall. Today was November’s turn.

Brian Taulbee

Had to use my inhaler I laughed so hard. Grintful for the laughs.

Melatonin Ronin

Gotos Grinted?

Jose Jaimes-Ramos

okay first question why does Casey Newton think asking the magic signifier-approximation math equations to buy eggs is preferable to clicking on a website. Like, many websites are annoying to use but surely asking the AI girlfriend who talks like Average LinkedIn Imagineer to do it can't possibly be any less annoying?

marilyn

You're a mean one, Mr Grint.

vercingix

here we here we fuckin gooooo

Ros Ballinger

BSc in chemistry here; like 1/5 of rare earth metals are named after the small Swedish village of Ytterby.

John Doe

don't let the bastards grint you down

Nemo

grogos grinted?

Deya

the headline literally reads like they're doing the antisemitic three brackets thing but for China

marilyn

lmao already the guardian has a headline at the top of the front page being like EXPERTS URGE CAUTION AGAINST USE OF <<<[[[!!!CHINESE!!!]]]>>> AI DEEPSEEK

marilyn

Finally, a good divorce!

Thor

my god nigel farage has turned into a fashy Alan Partridge in the process of advertising gold bullion, incredible stuff

marilyn

Insom

I live in Portugal and have a weird accent when I speak Portuguese that people can never place (well, Brazilians always can tell im from the US, Portuguese know im a foreigner but dont know where from) But please this Portuguese pronunciation is horrendous and it takes only a second to look it up how to say it.

Helena Maki

Sir, a second Chinese app has hit the US market.

Josep C.

, As somebody who's complained for years about the catastrophic amount of bloat in every piece of modern software, it's really cathartic to see some basic optimization and good code destroy this entire industry. Them using Assembly language is the cherry on top

Karl's Declassified

surely it’s grand theft luggage

Nina

Even if they make a bit of a recovery in the short term there still screwed , you can not beat free when you just asked for the moon on a stick

Samuel Pullen

And now trumps just chucked tarrifs of Taiwanese superconductors

Erin Taylor

I still hate AI but I hate the American government more and want to see China kick its teeth in.

Madwoman Madrigal

Since I saw Nvidia getting bodied yesterday I was waiting for this episode. Props for getting it out so swiftly!

Peter Larkin

let's go!

jamin


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