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The Boney Island Whitefish in: Being Joel David Moore

We're saddened to inform you that there is no potential supernatural murderer posited in this episode. But we're very happy to inform you that at least 30% of this episode is promotional material for the premiere of the 3D Summer blockbuster James Cameron's Avatar!  We also have an update on Bagelgate, a letter from a listener and our earliest instance of Wild Speculation yet!

The Boney Island Whitefish in: Being Joel David Moore

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So this is grave posting on grave posting, but that part also struck me weird because it felt like there was something that made sense but it was hard to grasp because it wasn't well described. I *think* what they were trying to say was that the show leans into the idea that you can list a number of traits about someone and that creates a complete character, which of course isn't true and definitely is a problem I see creators now falling into. So not that being for example non-binary isn't legitimate but just that it can never be the entirety of a person. So if you introduce someone as transfem gender fluid, on the spectrum, and grew up in foster care in a show like Bones that would mean you now understand everything about them and everything they do and that the existence of those labels explaining their behavior makes them "authentic". When of course with a real person you still don't know them at all (Not just in a "might defy stereotypes" way but in a "unrelated depths way") and they could still be masking in all sorts of ways even if they are open about those labels. I think the point they were making was not to fall into the trap of believing you are explained simply by your diagnosises and trauma because all people are unfathomable and complex or that assigning behavior to them means you are being authentic to yourself because that is hard and important work you have to actually do. Its possible none of that makes sense and it's also possible that interpretation is unrelated to what they were trying to say, but it's my best attempt at processing the ideas they're putting out through a haze of Bones derangment. Anyway I hope anyone who actually sees this is has a good day. Feel free to continue this discussion in 2028 if society is still around.

Alma Blue

I know this is an older episode, and perhaps some of it is clumsy phrasing, but this last bit at the end where you try to differentiate between legitimate things and then ‘tumblr’ identities, and how struggle is interesting. I came out as trans in 2010, when one couldn’t push the idea of nonbinary into someone else’s head as a possibility— we were not at denial yet. I’d’ve come out sooner, but I was told that my experience of a different dysphoria, that being a nonbinary trans man, was ‘appropriating the trans experience.’ We were dismissed as silly internet/tumblr bullshit, in these terms. That discourse never entirely died; right now, ‘theyfab’ is making the rounds to describe that specific thing. The things that are said about neopronouns now are what was said about the possibility of being publicly trans and surviving; of being seen as nonbinary at all. Further, re: the sentiment that mental illness is a way to be authentic— I agree with that in regards to how it is expressed in the writing of this kind of show, and it this exacerbates the thing I’m about to describe, but I’m finding very little space for me socially as someone who *does* struggle authentically with these things and would like the space to express that in my work. It has helped me to see this in the work of my friends (not this mega platform stuff like Bones, mind); I don’t necessarily think you were trying to strafe that population, but the literal statements and the effects of those statements *do* strafe people like me. Which, like, please don’t? If you want to critique tumblr culture, there is plenty to do that with— the current fondness for moral panics and fascistic tactics being adopted by queer youth on tumblr, for example, or the unquestioning reception of the logic of shows like bones, or even the fealty they show towards ip as expressed by mega corporations. There’s lots there. Why hit low to the people who are trying out new language for their self-conceptions and experiences?

AnIconic Dog

Nobody's going to read this absolute graveposting but I have lived my entire life in this country and never seen bagel spelled weird. I recently had a pack of bagels and they were spelled the normal way. Is this something they do in the south?

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