Angel - 1x13 "She" FULL REACTION

Took me a bit to watch this reaction because I really dont like it. Honestly it could have been fixed by one alteration having the men that are still effected by the "energy" still be able to control themselves if they want to. That my idea anyway. I just hate the portrayal of women and men in this. Or heck even have just the controlling spinal thing without the hormones and have the burned up people either be an intinictual defense mechanism or the bad guys killing people who try to help the women. Again I dont know but You were still enjoyable so that's some silver lining.💜

Catherine Thurmond

I think this is a sloppy and borderline offensive attempt to comment on FGM (men controlling women's sexuality by cutting off their clitoris, which still happens to millions of women worldwide). Unfortunately, Whedon struggles to talk about women's issues without objectifying and over-sexualising every female in sight at the same time. He is deeply committed to the whole "super hot sexy women fight back while still being hot and turning men on" thing. Bonus points for implying that women's sexuality renders men barely able to control themselves as well...definitely not a dangerous myth at all (I am a huge Buffyverse fan, so this isn't coming from a "hater"...but Joss in infamously tone-deaf in his approach to these kinds of issues. Bit of a tw*t, really)

cs

This and the previous ep are the 2 worst eps Angel season 1 has to offer. It's uphill from here. Angel the series took a bit to realize it needs to tread more lightly with specifically female issues than Buffy does, as Angel has a male protagonist and one female main character (granted it's out of 3). They def could have fucked this up in Buffy too, but at least it would be sitting in an overall feminist context. I appreciate the attempt more with She, since demon/alien pregnancy is covered plenty in science fiction and fantasy. But I enjoy watching Expecting more for some reason.

KT

I still think it's satire. Or at least a satirical story about FGM told in the middle of a straight-up detective story for some reason.

Bruce Trogdon

Yeah never been a big fan of this episode but that dancing makes me laugh everytime lol

Mel Saville

I believe this episode was meant to be a fictional world parallel to the very real life issue of female genital mutilation. I definitely applaud the show for attempting to tackle an issue like this, and of course as others have mentioned a Sci-Fi/Fantasy show, especially at the time it was made, is one of the best ways to bring subjects like this into the public conscience. I do think though that this episode, and others in the current Buffy/Angelverse have suffered from both sudden loss of actors & the need for rather rapid re-writes. I know with Buffy there was a much longer, and more interesting arc with Oz, Willow & Veruca, that ended up being cut down to a far too convenient feeling plotline that was done in one episode due to Seth Green leaving, and I think with some of the Angel episodes the same was true of the effect of Glenn Quinn's untimely departure.

Claire Eyles

The dancing scene is probably one of my favorite scenes ever 😂

Jenn Rose

This episode is many fan’s least favorite episode of Angel, but look at all it gives us: 1) Wesley’s humorous dancing; 2) David’s brilliant comedy dancing; 3) the stunningly brilliant scene by David in the art gallery; 4) Wesley being so funny in the nursery; 5) the chemistry between David and Bai Lee, which I thought worked; 6) Wesley joining the team!; and 7) a (barely disguised) shocking episode about female circumcision! The show was way ahead of its time on this, and that topic back then could have only been done in a science-fiction format, the same way the original Star Trek tackled racism and other subjects the network would have restricted otherwise. Watching this episode again gave me a lot more appreciation for it. Thank you for your reactions Liam.

Richard Lucas

Every once in a while I get one of my neck vertebra stuck in a can opener... ... then I remember this episode... and I don't feel so alone... and I feel better.

UTU49

The ONLY episode I skip in rewatch. Alien sex trafficking just isnt very relatable for me...

Bisibia

Yeah, this gets my vote for the worst episode in the Buffyverse

peggin

As you mentioned, the last episode (Expecting) was -- um -- interesting. Here is another episode that is -- um -- interesting.

UTU49

Ooof, this is a rough one. Definitely has my vote for the worst of the series. At least I Fall to Pieces felt like an Angel episode, this one took itself way to seriously and was just boring... and weird.

i know alot of people don't like this episode but I do so to each there own

Elisa H.

I was both excited and dreading this one. I think the first 5-10 minutes of this episode is brilliant but unfortunately it goes downhill very quickly after that. I think it might be my worst of the whole series which is a pity since the dancing scene was so iconic

Donna

Extremely boring episode only worth remembering for Angel dancing. It's frustrating, because the subject matter deserves so much more.

Thomas Hansen

I'm only watching this for the dancing haha

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