Ok Cass, I caught up with you. I found your YouTube channel about 3 months ago.I’ve rewatched Buffy at least 5 times over the years. This is my first Buffy reaction. I’m glad I picked your to be my first. You are so much fun to watch!
Sam Seawright
2025-09-04 06:01:18 +0000 UTC
Also Buffy literally wants to live. Aside from her mental breakdown in Spiral and her season 6 depression she isn’t suicidal, and if she was she would want to go out fighting. But unaliving oneself like Chloe did…she doesn’t get that mentality. As she said to Jonathan in “Earshot” : everyone is dealing with their own pain. To Buffy Chloe simply gave up. She was harsh tho no doubt about it but OOC? I don’t think so.
Joshua Taylor
2025-08-22 19:33:43 +0000 UTC
I know what buffy said about khloe comes off as harsh, and would be harsh if it were under any different circumstances, but considering the fact shes at war with the first and a big battle is coming i can also understand that what khloe did can cause major despair and panic to buffys potentials and if that feeling set in more it could really mess with all of their mental states. I think buffy just took action and decided it would better to get everyone angry and the potentials getting pissed at her would be better than the panic that could have over took the room. It also feels like in this episode buffy deciding to close her self off from the potentials as well once she had the thought she cant save all of them.
Rey R
2025-08-21 21:24:16 +0000 UTC
My Idea about Buffy's speech is that it was a bit too much but came out of Buffy's frustration at having little to fight against the First. She was in part intentionally making them angry, so she could direct that anger towards fighting it.
Bud Haven
2025-08-21 20:59:34 +0000 UTC
Kennedy is in fact very immature. Willow has been trying to explain how her magic can become dangerous, and she even saw what magic can do to a person 2 episodes ago, and yet she still treats it like skipping class and smoking cigarettes with your friends instead. I feel like she has a similar immaturity/recklessness to that of Faith. She needed to be put in danger to realize how dangerous magic is and why it shouldn't be taken lightly, the same way Faith had to endanger other people to realize how she needs to be more careful with things.
anna
2025-08-21 05:57:39 +0000 UTC
I actually never realized how much Slayer lore this episode gives us until I saw you watch it for the first time. Dracula told Buffy that "her power is rooted in darkness" and for a while we didn't understand where he was coming from because we didn't know how the Slayer line began. This episode answers this question, the Slayer power is indeed rooted in darkness, it started with a girl being violated. What the shadowmen did to her was brutal and undeniably unethical, and it's what created the Slayer line. However, just because Buffy's power is rooted in darkness, I don't believe that darkness is a part of her, or a part of her power. It is the source of her power, but not necessarily still a part of it.
anna
2025-08-21 05:47:22 +0000 UTC
Buffy's speech is harsh, but I kinda get where she's coming from. I cannot justify what she said about Chloe "being an idiot" because this was simply disrespectful, but she does have the weight of the entire world on her shoulders, now more than ever because she is fighting against something that can't be fought, and that pressure gets built up, eventually she lashed out.
anna
2025-08-21 05:38:15 +0000 UTC
I mentioned in a comment on the last episode that Kennedy gets hate all out of proportion to anything she actually does in the show...but she does still do a lot of infuriating things that I feel are epitomized in this episode.
People playacting at being domineering Drill Sergeants is common for kids who've never actually faced anything deadly, especially after the first time they watched "Full Metal Jacket", but Kennedy should be past that point. She's already learned the lesson that this isn't a game. Potentials have already been killed, she's been on the run for her life, and she's STILL treating it like a game.
Plus Willow has been saying for episode after episode that her magic is dangerous and she's not sure if she can control herself. The way Kennedy is so shocked by what happens sends the message that she's been dismissing everything Willow has been saying. The sum total presents Kennedy like somebody who is immature and has been arrogantly ignoring everything that everybody else has been telling her about what's going on.
She still doesn't deserve the extreme vitriol thrown her way, but she's never going to be one of my favorite characters.
JBK405
2025-08-21 02:44:17 +0000 UTC
YES!! Thank you!! Somehow that detail, not that it’s small…was missed.
Andrea Frank
2025-08-21 02:12:27 +0000 UTC
I really don't like the way Buffy spoke about the poor terrified teenage girl right after she killed herself, and I also really don't like the things she said to Spike, after telling him JUST LAST EPISODE, that she needs him by her side for reasons other than his demon fighting abilities. And to belittle his soul journey and his suffering at the hands of the First on top of that. And in front of like two dozen people, no less. I don't think I'll ever not be salty about that scene. I'm fine with her being a hard ass, but that was not the way to do it imo.
Also, I think you missed the significance of the scene in the high school when Principal Wood asks Spike where he got his coat, and he answers, "New York." As we learned in 'Fool for Love,' Spike's coat was Robin's mom's coat (hence why they showed him taking it off her body in the 'previously on'). Spike's answer was just more confirmation that this is his mother's killer, and now he's back to wearing his mother's coat as a trophy (though in reality, I think it's more like Spike's security blanket at this point, as twisted as that may be).
Maia Brodsky
2025-08-21 01:02:22 +0000 UTC
I absolutely agree with you on Buffy's confrontation with the Shadow Men and her refusal to accept the demon power. I have no idea if Joss was consciously drawing a parallel, but to me it was very reminiscent of the stories of the temptations of Jesus and Buddha. In both cases, they are in crucial moments, Jesus in the wilderness, Buddha under the bodhi tree, when the devil approaches them. What does he offer them? Worldly power. And they reject it, knowing that isn't the way. That's what Buffy does, too. She understands that just power (knowing especially that it's demonic power) will not Get It Done. Something larger is at stake, not just who is stronger, but who is right.
DanielOrme
2025-08-20 23:01:00 +0000 UTC
I don't think I've ever seen SMG chew the scenery like she did when ranting at the Potentials, great stuff.
Btw, Andrew's "Big Board" is a reference to a scene from Stanley Kubrick's apocalyptic dark comedy, "Dr. Strangelove".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zD9QDbmoY
Gaius Frakking Baltar
2025-08-20 22:54:22 +0000 UTC
No subs again?
Jon D Arthur
2025-08-20 21:41:56 +0000 UTC
That wasn't just any cool leather coat to make Spike feel badass, that was the coat he took off of Nikki Wood's body after killing her. I think that's why Robin was asking Spike where he got it.
Christine Cox
2025-08-20 21:31:57 +0000 UTC
In the opening of "The Harvest", episode 2 of Season 1, Giles briefly fills us in on some world building. He says the following:
"This world is older than any of you know. Contrary to popular mythology, it did not begin as a paradise. For untold eons demons walked the Earth. They made it their home, their... their Hell. But in time they lost their purchase on this reality. The way was made for mortal animals, for man. All that remains of the Old Ones are vestiges, certain magicks, certain creatures."
We've not seen or heard much about Old Ones since then, but at the end of S3 the Mayor's Ascension was intended to transform him into an Old One called Olvikan. And judging by the fact that he was gigantic and nigh-impervious even after only just transforming, we can judge that the Old Ones were incredibly powerful. Anya also talks about them in Graduation, either Part 1 or 2, calling them Pure Demons.
It's easy to forget, as it's not brought up very often, but I always liked this element of this universe.
I can understand Buffy's anger and why she lashes out, but she took it way too far in my opinion. Calling a suicide victim weak and stupid is just nasty, no matter how frustrated you are.
"Your power is rooted in darkness" - Dracula in 5x01. "I have searched the world over for you...for a creature whose darkness rivals my own." We've gotten tiny little hints like this throughout the show that the root of the Slayer's power comes from a dark place, but here we have it confirmed that the Slayer was created by imbuing her with the spirit of a demon. I think what we're meant to understand, or at least my headcanon is that the demon's essence has faded somewhat over the millennia, which is why the First Slayer was so brutal and animalistic compared to someone like Buffy.
I really appreciate your reactions - I'm enjoying S7 more than I normally do watching it vicariously through your eyes. It's not my least favourite season, but it ranks pretty low for me usually.
Jordan McLaren
2025-08-20 19:38:35 +0000 UTC
I think it's meant to be tough love in which Buffy is truly right, but it's just written in such an over-the-top way that everyone comes across as being just a little out-of-character.
Jorgalorg
2025-08-20 19:07:04 +0000 UTC
The lore about demons being on the earth before humans is actually something Giles talks about waaaaaayyyyyyyyyy back in the beginning of season 1. It hasn't been brought up much since then (possibly not at all until this episode), so if you haven't rewatched the early seasons, it's understandable that you would have forgotten about it. Supposedly the last demons on earth became the first vampires, mixing their blood with humans (he said something like that).
Regarding Buffy's speech, YES it was quite harsh. I don't condone her speaking to the potentials that way, especially since none of them asked to be dragged into their current situation, but I also understand the frustration from Buffy's side. She's been a slayer in Sunnydale for seven years now (and before that she was a slayer for one year in L.A.). She's faced apocalyptic crises again and again, at least once per seasons. She's constantly fighting, constantly saving people, rarely, if ever, gets thanked. She's tough, but she still gets wounded, gets her house destroyed, she's died TWICE, and the only vacation she's had from any of this was being DEAD.
And now she's in arguably her most dangerous scenario yet, fighting an entity that can't be fought, that's killing off her potentials one-by-one, and she has a bunch of strangers living in her house -- that alone has got to drive her insane -- all of whom she's responsible for.
I don't think it's right that Buffy took out her frustration on everyone in that moment, but I can't find it in my heart to blame her. She's damn amazing and she deserves better than what she's going through right now. Here's to riding out the rest of the season. We'll see how it all shakes out in the end.
Cheers!
Steve Quast
2025-08-20 18:31:52 +0000 UTC
Yet another example of why I despise Kennedy and cannot be convinced otherwise. She's the absolute worst and it STILL has nothing to do with her not being Tara. (Though also, Tara would never behave this way anyway, because she was actually a better person.)