Angel: 4x1 Full Reaction
Added 2025-05-27 14:00:08 +0000 UTC"Deep Down"
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Who's fluffy? Lorne said make sure fluffy is getting enough love. I couldn't make sense of that the first round of watching either, even though it's so obvious.
Morgan Williams
2025-05-30 17:04:55 +0000 UTCYou're going to want to pay close attention this season, a lot happens and it's a puzzle you can only solve by paying you're utmost attention.
Morgan Williams
2025-05-30 15:38:39 +0000 UTCThis form of "Wesley" is my favorite Buffyverse character other than Spike... At somepoint soon Wesley will explain "What happened to him" and it's my favorite line in this entire show....
Bryan J Brown
2025-05-28 18:42:51 +0000 UTCDark Wesley is one of my favourite characters ever. Still completely committed to the good fight, but also completely bitter toward the good people he should be fighting for. It's like he spent three months rescuing Angel just as revenge against Angel for ever doubting him. And Denisof's performance is so good here: the casual cruelty in his delivery of lines like "I wasn't thinking about you when you were here" last episode and "I'll take away your bucket" in this one are genuinely scary.
Arlo Murphy
2025-05-28 02:29:27 +0000 UTCWesely is deeply ashamed at being played and betraying Angel Investigations, and has basically been told off by each of them in turn, never to come back, to stay away. So he himself has been trying to find a way to atone, but knows asking for forgiveness is out. Lilah realized near the end that she was being squeezed out, played by these men, including Wesely, as she did not even see the return of Angel coming despite sleeping with the enemy. Why would the sexual chemistry of those two bring them together? For Lilah it is an act of rebellion, but for Wesely it is a way to wipe away the old Wesely for a new harder version, one that has decided that he has to be out for himself as much as his mission, whatever that is going to be. He came to L.A. to be a rogue demon hunter, but found purpose and training and experience and a link to TPB, and even got laid a few times, dating hot rich babes, and killing gnarly demons. He even got to go universe hopping and do magic and stuff. But it all went sour and nearly killed him, put him back down into the hole, on the losing side again. He isn't about to let that happen, and he isn't going to infect the group he secretly deeply cares about be dragged down into his psychosis and existential crises. Not just yet. Be sure that just when he thought he was out, things are going to drag him back in. Correct me if I am wrong, but so far Lilah has only killed bad guys, is that right? Not for lack of trying, but she only actually pulls the trigger when its personal.
spikeysnack
2025-05-28 00:25:55 +0000 UTCGreat reaction to an excellent season premiere. Lots of interesting stuff for all of the major characters, especially like Lilah getting so much to work with this episode. Really liked Angel's 'how the world should be speech' at the end.
James Smith
2025-05-27 23:36:42 +0000 UTCSame here
Andrea Frank
2025-05-27 23:21:58 +0000 UTCOne of the big differences of watching a show during its original airing versus a quicker watchthru now is how the impression of time is so different. My memory of this arc is that Angel was stuck down at the bottom of the ocean for a long time. Because there was the full gap between seasons, and then another week between this episode and the next, for me he really was gone for months. But on rewatch, where he's found just one episode after being dumped, it feels like it's so much quicker. I think Wesley's behavior, and the way he continues to act "for the best" without checking with anybody or consulting anyone else, is an attempt to convince himself that he was always right to do what he did with Connor. He's trying so hard to show that him acting "for the best" is actually the right thing, because look at how it's paying off now! And if it's right now, then it was right then as well. And that means that he wasn't wrong in the first place, and he doesn't NEED to apologize to anybody else, THEY need to apologize TO HIM. Because if he ever admits that he was wrong to take Connor, then he would have to admit that getting his throat cut and getting turned on by Angel is his own fault. And he couldn't handle that. This is the first time we ever get a name for one of the Senior Partners at W&H. "Mr. Suvarta". One of my favorite little bits of trivia is that Linwood refers to his department at Wolfram & Hart as his "corner of the sky". That's a reference to the song "Corner of the Sky" in the musical "Pippin". The actor John Rubinstein, who plays Linwood, originated the title role in the Broadway production.
JBK405
2025-05-27 23:01:01 +0000 UTCUnlike "Buffy", I haven't watched the entirety of "Angel" in quite some time. I'll remember point A and point B, but not how they get from one to the other. Just a long way of saying I'm excited to rediscover season 4 with you!
Christine Cox
2025-05-27 22:14:09 +0000 UTCMud. Angel's son's name is mud. That's what it is.
Steve Quast
2025-05-27 21:03:13 +0000 UTCM.C. Escher was a dutch graphic artist who created (among other things) images of "impossible" objects, playing with perspective etc. See e.g. his works "Relativity", "Day and Night" or "Waterfall".
Markus E.
2025-05-27 17:55:50 +0000 UTCWriter Steven DeKnight outdid himself with this episode's script, so many iconic lines. Champions "live as though the world was what it should be, to show it what it can be."
Gaius Frakking Baltar
2025-05-27 15:59:44 +0000 UTCWesley, like the Watcher he was modelled after, has a darkness deep down. He draws upon it when times are tough to continue the fight (like Luthen Rael he is condemned to use the tools of his enemy). Wesley is like the Yang, the light side with a dark centre. Lilah is like the Yin, all darkness with a light centre. Everyone at Wolfram&Hart is evil and Lilah excels there mostly because she embraces the evil but on occasions she pushes back. In particular she often resists the blatant misogyny, one time killing a personification of this evil. I think this access to the light, even if usually it is only an insight rather than an action, sometimes gives Lilah an edge over her fellow lawyers.
The Testimony of Mushroom
2025-05-27 15:46:30 +0000 UTC
