Angel: 2x10 Full Reaction
Added 2024-08-06 20:00:06 +0000 UTC"Reunion"
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Preaching to the Horse's Mouth
2024-08-13 19:27:57 +0000 UTCHonestly, I loved Holland. He was such a great villain: always in-control, always at least a step ahead of everyone else, forever focused on the big picture. Sam Anderson did a wonderful job of combining a kind of corporate, bland evil with a charming, fatherly persona with nothing behind the eyes. Still, it is fun to see his plans blow up in his face after spending so long running rings around everyone so effortlessly.
Jorgalorg
2024-08-08 16:20:58 +0000 UTCI first started watching the show in season three when it was first airing, so through flashbacks/recaps I knew what had happened here, but it was still so shocking when I went back later and saw this arc climax here. Holland trying to prompt Lindsey to start a romantic relationship....I can't call it "good", but it's a great touch to show that he's HUMAN. Not just stupidly evil, but somebody who does have a "normal" life. He can talk about things outside of work, including his passion for wine, which emphasizes that he's an actual person. Showing this side of him, the human side, lays the groundwork for Angel's actions at the end: Just because you're not literally soulless doesn't mean you can't still do bad things.
JBK405
2024-08-08 03:59:46 +0000 UTCI really enjoyed the moral introspection at the end. Angel the series is really great for that kind of philosophical musing! The song Drusilla sings to Darla is the same one she sings back in season two of Buffy. Apparently, her mother used to sing it her. Which ties in nicely with the 'mother' role Drusilla plays in this episode. Something I always enjoy is Angel quoting Holland's deeply callous line from earlier in the episode: 'Yet, I just can't seem to care', (as he closes the doors). The horrified look on Holland's face as Angel says this is quite chilling.
Rebecca
2024-08-07 18:46:38 +0000 UTC“Don’t be cross, I could be your Mummy” — Drusilla, 120 years prior
Isaiah Bryant
2024-08-07 12:36:00 +0000 UTCIam thinking along the lines of Wolfram and Hart, while controlling so much of the bad elements, they lost sight (or Holland specifically) of the fact that demons and vampires are notorious for being uncontrollable in the long term. Especially heavy hitter ones like Angel/Angelus, Darla, Drusilla, and Spike. The "Senior Partners" are likely not surprised by this and probably not all that upset themselves (they strike me as the sort that have contingency plans ready to go if any project goes up in smoke...). Angel also just demonstrated that "soul" doesn't necessarily equate to "good" by being pushed too far. That is where his actions are coming from I believe. Only remaining question is "how bad is Angel about to get?..."
Michael Labs
2024-08-07 05:11:51 +0000 UTCOn the one hand it is a reflection of similar creepy corporate culture in the real world: enforcing cultural and religious norms in the office. Its also a way that Wolfram&Hart control and manipulate their employees through their family.
The Testimony of Mushroom
2024-08-07 01:21:28 +0000 UTCOne of my English professors taught us that gibberish is one of the most difficult things a writer can write. It can't be just random nonsense; it has to make some kind of sense while sounding as if it doesn't. Drusilla has a secret logic in what she says if you follow it closely.
DanielOrme
2024-08-07 01:07:06 +0000 UTCThat close of the doors is both chilling and gratifying. Brilliantly done I think.
Jonathan Hall
2024-08-07 01:00:06 +0000 UTCI thought it was pretty clear from the way that Holland made his little speech that he only had W&H employees in the cellar with him. Even Holland's wife was upstairs. I'm picturing a little group of wives/girlfriends hanging around in the kitchen, waiting for the business part of the evening to be over so they could start the party.
Rod Bate
2024-08-06 23:53:08 +0000 UTCi was thinking along the lines of ‘angelus’ hitting a high at being able to reunite with his vampire mate darla again for the first time in a long time (after so much connection took place leading up to this) idk, thinking out loud and reacting leads to a lot of throwaway thoughts🤷♀️
Cassie
2024-08-06 23:06:35 +0000 UTCIt is pretty messed up for Lindsey's boss to basically order him to have a romantic relationship. I would say that Lindsey should go to the HR department but at Wolfram&Hart that would probably be a risk. Also Holland was asking if Lindsey was inviting a girlfriend to the wine tasting, so some of the people may not have been spouses to the Wolfram&Hart employees; theoretically someone in that room could have said yes to a fancy date with a lawyer.
James Smith
2024-08-06 22:40:00 +0000 UTCWhy was Darla so mad? Why fight everyone? Because she is damn tired of being the victim, being under anyone's power. Not Angel, Not Drusilla, and f no not Wolfram & Hart. She reconciled with Dru when she made it clear she was not "hers" she was doing what she wanted now, and Dru could come along if she was going to do what she was told. The scene where Dru broke down in tears in her arms out in the street, touching and great acting, but easy to overlook. Drusilla is not fine being alone, and did not expect Spike to leave her when she fooled around with the locals down in South America. After Angelus sired Dru, the three of them lived in a menage-a-trois relationship for 20 years, or at least Angelus was sexually involved with both girls (vamps! naughty by nature). When Dru made Spike, she had her own boyfriend now, but to Spikes eternal consternation, she still slept with Angelus occasionally as well. Spike is eternally sore about Angel with him as a consequence. Dur was very sick when we first met her on Buffy, spending time in bed mostly, and hiding. Spike and Dru went after Angel to steal his blood and restore her, and it kindof worked, but left Spike all messed up physically. When Angel turned again into Angelus, Dru and Angel resumed their sexual relations, taunting the wheelchair bound Spike with it all over again. This ends up turning Spike against Angelus end-of-the-world plans with the Demon Acathla and he helps Buffy. Buffy sends Angel to hell for 100 years, and on and on. Dru and Darla loose in L.A. has got to be Angel's personal nightmare, how can he kill his family, like he killed his human family, but weirder, and all that. He knows he has to fight two of the most able vamps, now, and one of them can see the future, in her twisted crazy way, and the other knows how Angel thinks. Has he lost his mission? He seems more than just annoyed by the Powers That Be sending him on a standard help the helpless mission, in the middle of his personal thing with both of his homicidal exes. Then he jettisons his crew, all of a sudden, like he doesn't need them anymore. Pride, and personal ambition, is it getting in the way, or is he on his way to the dark side, this time willingly slipping down into it, because it is more interesting than being a servant of uncaring forces somewhere off the mortal plane sending him on errand-boy missions to save poor people? "Somehow I can't bring myself to care" a line repeated, and Lindsey saying "I don't mind", then Angel not minding either -- That whole BS last episode with the trial making him throw his life away, may have soured Angel on the mission itself, as the Powers let Darla die, seemed not to care about what he cares about. So maybe he doesn't care anyomore either. That is definitely going to come back on him.
spikeysnack
2024-08-06 21:21:12 +0000 UTCregarding what you said before the episode started, that maybe Angel would lose his soul right then and there and be reunited with Darla, I'm confused why you think he would lose his soul after experiencing a soulcrushing event when the curse is about pretty much the opposite (pure happiness). just curious on your thought process
madfem
2024-08-06 21:13:47 +0000 UTCYes, 'Are you now or have you ever been' was totally and purposefully foreshadowing whats happening rn
madfem
2024-08-06 21:08:59 +0000 UTCI'm not sure that the idea was that those were wives of the W&H rather female employees/lawyers who were there for the wine tasting. Either way some pretty dark shit from our boy there😬 Very reminiscent of him leaving the old hotel guests in the 50s at the mercy of the paranoia demon. Even with a soul Angel still seems capable on some level of doing some pretty awful stuff.
Preaching to the Horse's Mouth
2024-08-06 20:49:54 +0000 UTC
