Art Comparison / Accusation / Feedback Requested

Indeed the pose is similar, but it is clear that this is not a copy and in my opinion, it does not make in the case of a "reference". In your place I would keep this drawing without changing anything :)

El Tison

This happens a lot more often than people realise, you've done literally nothing wrong and both images have their own merits and individuality. Could you imagine how little art would be out there if each theoretical pose could only be drawn once from a given angle? :o

Thaldor

Dude, you're fine. Don't even sweat it.

Kyrii

Its not a direct trace or copy since there are differences. All in all, its just a coincidence that they look similar. No harm done.

Eksangha

I have seen poses, in graphic and photo, like it before. Keep it.

Overton Hallford

In which case I'm leaving the country and changing my name because I've been on the male side of that pose a number of times in my life and expect to be there again.

Steve O

The only thing that's the same is the view which isn't unique since wow that ass. Yours is obviously a work in progress while the other is a finished work. From the arms of the female to the actions of the male anything more than a superficial "hey that's similar" is laughable.

JCofearth

I see no issue here unless a pose can be sued for

R G

Thanks for the good laugh. If such a basic body position were grounds for the OP crying about your work, they would also be in positon to have hundreds of others claiming the same against them. This is not a positioning of two bodies that is in any way special to the OP's art. There are way to many other things that are so different to keep the works very easy to separate (species, types of contact, clothing, arm position and so much more.) The only thing similar is male kneeling before a female, hardly a copyright issue or any remotely artistic rights of any kind.

Sarn Balan

If you created your art independently of the other drawing you've violated no Copyright law. That said, I accuse the other artist of copying my entire last year's evenings

B Y Mathis

I think the similarities are as minimal as they can be to even call them similar. Yes its a woman facing away from the viewpoint and another around her waist but the entire orientation, style, and medium are different. Art can only be done for so long before some art starts to resemble other art.

Steven McKenzie

Let's be honest, while they look incredibly similar, how many positions are there to use? It's just like the drums or guitar; there are only so many beats and notes in the world, then eventually you'll inadvertently repeat one or two in a new song. Likewise, is every person who initiated sexual intercourse with that pose guilty of ripping off that art piece? Equally ridiculous. Leave the piece up. It's your work, not theirs.

Manrid Brizon

The two pieces are communicating different things. The context of the two moments is not the same. The characters are different, as are their implied relationships. There are wholly different tensions and atmospheres within both. So no, I think there is no reason to pull the image, nor even to worry about any implications of plagerism. There is, in fact, nothing new under the sun.

Shawn McCormick

Similarity is there but it's not close enough to be considered any kind of copy in my opinion just shares a pose which is common enough.

Chiyo Takeda

As they say, Simpsons already did it.)) But seriously, the people who criticize you should see the frescoes in ancient lupanars. There they will be able to find all the possible poses and angles that occur in the modern erotic art.

Alexey Belovolsky

The only similarity between these two images is they have a man kneeling in front of woman from the back side. And as someone else already stated I have seen this similar pose in many different formats. The body types, shading, actions, stances, framing, and pretty much everything else is completely different. If someone is trying to say your picture is a copy of the other picture, that other picture is a copy of thousands of other drawings that have come long before that picture with identical poses.

Robert

leave it up. There is some similarities but lots of differences as well. I agree with what KriegTiger on this one

Christine Bryant

Looking at them side by side, I wouldn't worry about it. The anatomy is different, camera position, angle, curves of the subject, and probably 100 other details my highly untrained eye could spot. You create beautiful art and you have done your due diligence. Leave yours up please. Finish it. It is YOUR art, YOUR creation, YOUR characters, and your heart and soul that you pour into each line you draw for us, your adoring fans. You do great work Jay and I am proud to support you in all you do.

CanisAstra

There are only so many orientations that two bodies can be artfully composed in to have certain impacts. I have seen this particular position (one person kneeling with knees wide in front of another) dozens of different times over the years in all manner of media formats (CG rendering, hand drawn, photography, etc). If someone is trying to throw shade on you for using this very common position for your models that's pretty damn petty and they need to get a grip and get over themselves.

Tib

I wouldn’t worry to much about it, honestly. While the positioning of the characters is similar, everything else about it (clothing, character action, coloration, etc.) is very different. It’d be akin to someone saying you copied Lord of the Rings if your story included an elven forest location.

Joseph "Fortain" Housley

The very fact that you were concerned speaks volumes about yourself as an artist. Leave the page up.

voidme457

There are similarities, to be sure. But I've been following you for close to 20 years. This recent pic of Beth is definitely the sort of theme you would draw. I can definitely see you coming up with that image of Beth right from the back of your mind without reference to Vallejo's piece. And really, such coincidences are possible, can and do happen. But to delete your image on FA in the face of an accusation gives it weight. Undeserved weight, in my opinion. Were I you, I would acknowledge the resemblance is uncanny, but stick to your guns about it being an unintended consequence. You have decades of original artwork to fall back on as evidence of your character as an artist with original talent and imagination. Let that do the talking.

Goth Skunk

As a consumer/fan, this is an eye-roller. But as someone who creates erotic content for a living, I understand the desire to clarify this situation. This post obviates any need for an additional response, of course. But if it happens again, I would just pin the comment, complement the other drawing, and clarify that there was no relationship. If people object, entertain their response for a single comment at most. You pump out so much original content with such frequency that you don’t really need to engage with this kind of thing much at all.

Avid Reeder

Great Minds Think Alike, as the saying goes.

Goth Skunk

Yeah I guess I just equate the two when talking about furry drama lol. Either way I wouldn't pay them much mind.

Shmi Skyrunner

I think you just have to let these accusations lie, acknowledging it only brings attention to what is clearly an attention-seeking individual who can't even tell how distinct the two drawings are. Even if the 'camera angle' is similar they don't evoke the same feelings or even seem like similar styles to me. The accuser obviously didn't even take a close look before deciding to throw shade at a talented artist.

Peach or Man

i reall dont see the problem with your image, its true there are similaritys betwen the two, if you can you coudl contact the image author and ask for his/hers feedback on the matter, i dont mind really.

Fanfictionfan

The differences outweigh the similarities, in both style and content. There is no reason for you to take this down and no reason for anybody to object to it being up.

Skibs

This wasn't a troll, just a drama queen. But when I saw the similarities with the other image, I had to consider the point, even though I know I didn't reference it.

Jay Naylor

You understand you're one of the most trolled artists in the fandom, right? They're going to nitpick every little thing you do. Fuck those people. Don't let them get to you. Don't give them any more attention than they deserve.

Shmi Skyrunner

Imo: artists have been painting/drawing/creative for how long? Ya somewhere someone is going to find something that looks like something else, it's inevitable at some point. Don't let that get to you, draw what you want how you want, and keep doing what you love. Hope this helps.

Teza_Kinoku

Far too different to even both responding to the trolls, but trolls gotta be trolls

Warfighter21

Co-generated concepts are inevitable within the creative fields. There are enough distinct differences between these two images that you can clearly determine they are different works in whole, including proportion, assemble, framing, and pose. While yes there are striking similarities, the pose can be found in photography and art in many places. Further thought: the camera position is actually not the same, and the context of the pose is distinctly different as well for the relationship between the two figures. Aside from the most fundamental components (male figure kneeling legs akimbo in front of standing female figure) there is no clear relation between these images. #Wisdomofaformerartdirector

Voltmeter

Keep it up. There are only so many sex positions, and at this point every one of them has been drawn by someone.

MT_Fox

I'm not a legal expert, so I figure take with a grain of salt. It's not the same characters, two different genres (sexy furry vs dark fantasy) the similarity is in the simple pose. You're piece has the guy slowly drawing down the panties whilst the other piece is just holding her. Even wrapping arms around her. I think you are in the clear. You *could* reach out to the other artist and ask for their opinion. But if other artist is a dick, then that's a headache. In the end, I think you're safe. That's my non-legal-expert vote. :) Thank you for the continued stellar quality work! I'm proud to get to support.

Mike Gokel

This is an issue? By this point in time I find it damn near impossible to draw anything that wont have a similar image already in existe..... Yeah, what Brett said. :P

StahlPunk

It is virtually impossible to draw something that has not been drawn or photographed before. All angles and views have been done. As some of the other comments have stated intent is everything. Those of us who enjoy your work will continue to do so and critics are inevitable. Continue the fine work an i look forward to the next creation.

Brett

They are not similar enough to wrry about. Altho I'd like to see Beth in boots again...

Tam Barlas

Keep it up, drawn correctly nearly all butts in that position with that frame are going to look like that. Also as others have said, the intent is different.

Cole Muhly

Frankly I don't think the pictures are similar enough for it to be an issue.

Aaron Cardarelli

Leave it they are not the same and there are a lot of differences .

bertus de jager

Leave it up! you're reading too much into their reference

DresdenQ

Related, might amuse you: <a href="http://www.unz.org/Pub/StartlingStories-1953jan-00083" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.unz.org/Pub/StartlingStories-1953jan-00083</a>

Professor Harmless

I say leave it be also. They have enough differences.

Dominiccrump

Its a pretty simple pose, it would be different if there was some similarity in some acrobatic feat drawing but this comparison is kind of ridiculous

Ztpia

The pose is noticeably different, the image is topically different, and I disagree about camera placement; yours MUST be significantly closer than theirs as well as at a different elevation. The lateral angle is to be expected as merely part of the "birthday dilemma;" it was inevitable given such an iconic concept. Further, there's no similarities in body structure other than the obvious "one is female and standing and the other is male and kneeling." You should have nothing to worry about. :)

Yes we can see some resemblance between the two but it's not close enough to bring accusations. You have nothing to fear.

Filux4

I looked at the picture before reading what you had written. I had seen the other picture before and yours did not remind me of it at all. I thought you wanted to know which one had a better ass. I don't think anyone in their right mind could misconstrue this as being derivative. Pose is different, theme is different, none of the curves are the same. So ya, don't feed the trolls. ;)

Xisis

Keep it up! ^^

Mstr f Dstrctn

Why are you feeding the trolls? These two pictures don' t look alike.

S.

I say leave it up. There's nothing wrong about an honest coincidence. With all the artists in the world, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more.

Eidi

You can leave it up. The images have only one real thin in common(lady standing while man kneels). The tone, subject matter, and the thing going on is different. Just one of the sheer coincidences in the world and nothing more.

Nick R. Kupila

Purely coincidental. With thousands upon millions of drawings, there is no possible way to see if someone has drawn artwork that "might" look just like another piece in a certain way. Looking at both pictures, they do NOT even look the same, I honestly can't see how this is considered copying at the least. Whoever complained is just trying to play a hero by looking like they're doing something special to gain favor with the original artist while creating an issue that doesn't even exist. I'd say leave it up and defend yourself if necessary. People are sometimes too quick to judge, hopefully the original artist is understandable, because I can bet, the other artist has drawn something purely coincidental as well if you searched their artwork too.

Sonny Starbrite

I'd leave it Jay. Let's be honest. You have made your mark in this community, and no one will ever argue that. So let's take it as it is; eventually, every artist will run into this kind of thing. You made art that somewhat looks like someone else's art that you have never taken before. Are you going to take down every love story because some guy named Shakespeare wrote one so long ago? Are you going to stop exploring relationship dynamics because 50 shades is so popular? I think you need to be your own guy about this and move on. Take it from a guy much older than you that this happens, and just let it go. Be yourself, don't cower in the face of correctness.

David The Old Lion

In thinking about it - you might take a similar approach to the one Westane did with me. Reach out to the artist if you can find them, explain the situation, and say "hey, by the way - if I can post a link to your patreon/site/whatever, just to cross-promote, let me know." There is always some risk they get huffy, but I think much more likely that they say "hey, that's cool - thanks!"

Wandrer

The only similarity I can see is a male kneeling in front of a female as seen from behind her. Everything else is different, so leave it up.

Wm. Van Ness

The pose is different, the intent/message is different, the style is different, the angle is different. Implying that your image is plagarism or copying is like complaining that two different authors wrote books about wizards. They both just liked wizards and made something. I wouldnt worry about it.

Ash Lupino

Obviously we are all biased towards you in this conversation :), but attempting to be objective...I agree with most of the others commenting. There is SO much art being produced these days that inevitably there will be vast amounts of duplication on poses and the like. Particularly, I would think, for sexytimes poses because there are only so many angles one can show bodies from that are sexy (and we should explore them all!). I think you have actually done a particularly noble thing - someone called attention to it, you shared your concern and the other piece of art. This is not a zero sum game - you both benefit in this scenario. (I'll give a similar example for me - @Westane started to produce a game based loosely on my Company stories, only eventually realizing I was still around and posting. He reached out, asked if it was cool, and then credited me in the opening to his story. He didn't have to do that - his story is similar but very much it's own thing - but everyone in the scenario is better off for it. We cross-promote each others' work, and we both get to enjoy something we like produced by someone else. Win win.)

Wandrer

With the sheer number of artists, and the amount of art produced, its almost guaranteed that poses and subject matter will be duplicated unintentionally. Look hard enough long enough, and anyone can find a near exact duplication of any given artwork.

MiddKnight

You should definitely keep it up. It's different enough that anyone can clearly see it's a different piece with a different intent in mind. The poses are actually very different. Keep up the great work! <3

Endlessly

Keep it, you didn't trace the other artists work, so no copywrite have been violated.

Neverborn

You forgot to include that the original drawing is more fantasy based than Jay's is as I did when I posted my comment below yours.

Glenn Sellers

Jay, I'm no artist but I am very observant and, after viewing the comparison, I can say that, while the viewer's position is almost the same, and I do stress almost, the only part of the drawings that could possibly be the same is from the female's waist down. However, I would contact the artist of the original drawing and show him/her the comparison and let the other artist make the decision. You may be surprised and find that he's honored that the two of you had, basically, the same idea.

Glenn Sellers

I believe you should leave it up, because your version is so much better than that of the other. Some might like the other version better, although I don't know why, hehe! To me your art is always better than any one else's, but that is just me...I guess what I am saying is, people love your art, because its YOUR'S. Positioning and similar poses...that's just going to happen. The most important thing to me, at least, is that one of the creations is Jay Naylor's, a style and taste that is perfect to me....sorry, kinda babbling, but I hop this helped.

Chase

Either someone is unclear on the concept of what actually constitutes plagiarism, or somebody is trying to generate traffic to another artist's page by starting a kerfuffle on your (much larger, I figure, but I don't have an FA account to check) page. 1. Did you trace? no. so not a derivative work, thus not a copyright violation. 2. Did you emulate a very unique design, clearly trying to do your own take on the other image (ie. the artwork version of a "cover" song) ? no. so no need to give the other artist the courtesy of asking their blessing. 3. some people just have to crusade for their favorite causes but start seeing them everywhere. oh well

Todd Whitesel

leave it up. the feel of the pictures are completely different. the left gives the feeling of reverence where the right gives the feeling of possession. let alone if you start worrying about what if someone drew this before me you'll never get anything done for fear of someone claiming you copied.

yamaraj

I'd keep it. Some poses are simply classics, and people come up independently from time to time. And even should one be inspired by a different artist's work - that's normal in art.

Stiopa

Whoever brought this up is an idiot. Art comes back to similar or even exact things, because good things look good every time. Using the same pose or composition isn't plagiarism. Keep this up, fuck anyone who calls for removal.

legojohn

It looks purely coincidental. Yes, they’re similar, but what art isn’t?

Austrocylindropuntia

Leave it there, continue your great work, that's what I say. The locations and position of feet of the characters in relation to each other is similar, yes, but that's it. There are a million similar cases where the copying/referencing was intentional and they're still out there whether it was legal or not.

Caius

To a reductionist, every pose has been drawn. Every story has been written. If we go by this person's view, no new art could be drawn, nor could new stories be written. Ignore it and move on.

Kandrel

Whoever made the claim has nothing to stand on. Yes the angle is close but nothing else is remotely the same. They are reaching for something that isn't there.

Salt King

IT's a common enough pose and the hand positions, clothing, etc. are different. I think this is more a case of someone trying to stir the pot and cause an wanted drama for the hell of it.

Merv DeGriff

Maybe they see similar on the first sight, but the Message - the Feeling - one of each is delivering, is different. There are so many Pictures, so many Artist...its like in every other field: There is so much information, Inspiration etc. that there will be always be Kind of redundancy. But the Beth-Picture definitly has its own charme deliveres another emotion. So, dont remove your work.

roolive

I think it's not that unusual pose. You haven't traced it, and wasn't aware this piece even existed. There are lots, and lots of this kind of shots, especially in pornography. For me, you shouldn't even bother.

Bart Fox

No, they have no claim. There can be no claim or copyright no a pose, plus some positions are different. Even though you have never seen it the piece they're referring to, claiming you have taken inspiration from it isn't something one would ever even have to list. Their argument is weak and baseless. It's like saying I can't walk on two feet because another guy did it first. LOL

MKX Player

Dude you can leave it up though they may look similar they're both different themes and you can't really copyright or claim a theme.

Johnny Grimm

I'm going to join the virus of "leave it up." Similar, sure; but it's still your characters and there are plenty of differences either way.

Ryan Jackson

Leave it up

Kingkaiju

I'm no artists, but my two cents is to keep it up and carry on as usual. When drawing a piece containing two people (or cats in this case) there's only so many positions/angles that you can realistically draw and some will look better than others. Odds are you're going to end up drawing something either very similar or the same as someone else, but as long as you didn't copy/trace them, I see no harm. There are thousands of artists online after all, being 100% unique in every piece is impossible.

steven kiland

Where are the similarities? Oo The only similar thing here is a male kneeling infront of a female... Hell, even hand positions are different...

Harry_Hirsch

While far from being able to be considered an artist, I'll still put in my $1.43 (inflation is a bitch...) Are they similar? Only in the sense that it's a straight on shot from a low position with the female blocking the view of most of the male while he removes her panties. I've shot photos like that before, as have probably thousands of others. It's a great view and people like to admire it! It's been drawn tons of times in the past, and there is only so much you can vary with the positioning and still have the same effect, so you will get "similar" looks quite often from it. There is nothing wrong with that. You have quite a number of differences in it from the image they referenced, and I would say that there are so many that the thought of it having been traced as a reference is laughable.

Peter

Just keep it up. That pose is very common and it's more about the subject matter rather than the base construction. You can draw the same pose 5 times but with enough differences to warrant them being different situations such as: on a beach using sunscreen, sexy night with lingerie, looking up a dress, grabbing some ass. There really is no limit to what anyone with a pose can do and having similar poses is nothing. Also it's easy to just take similar poses from both characters and just mesh them together to make the pose one would use as a base so there's that. Sometimes I use poses multiple times but with the changes to setting, character, intentions and so on they can easily be different things. So honestly keep it up, you're gonna have that comparison every once in a while by people that jump to conclusions. Long as you're not directly stealing someone's content (which I already know you'd never do) then there's no problem.

Viro Veteruscy

It's a common sub perspective, implying worship, people in the kink/fetish community are fond of these types of poses.

Gebreel

This pose is very common in photography and is referenced in alot of art. Besides art is freedom of expression, you got nothing to worry about. If anyone has a problem with your art, they can bugger off.

Twin Rooster

It's a super common pose used in all imaginable combinations (FF,FM,mf,mm…) The arm positions don't even match. Total coincidence. Ignore the crazy.

ExDee

Really? It's not a pose I've seen often (I've never been on fetlife), which is a pity because I really like it. o:

Silvador

I’m not sure about the legal grounds but I don’t think it would be illegal even if you had used that image as a base templet since your using your own characters. Infact I’m sure I’ve seen that pose and angle used in other art and photographs. I suggest ignoring them or find and reference an older piece that’s similar.

J. Patrick Walker

Oh, even still, anyone who has seen your history knows you aren't a known art thief, it's nothing more than a coincidence. If anything you could give the artist a shout-out, do something nice to clear the air and show good terms.

Skellitor301

I've always held this belief as well, that a pose can't be copyrighted. It's the very reason I save YCH poses for later reference, because I'm terrible at coming up with ideas myself and some are really gorgeous. Obviously I wouldn't hand an artist a YCH image and ask them to colour/finish/fill it in for me, I'd ask them to reference the pose in their own way and style just as any other image I might present them with for pose reference.

Silvador

No artist is accusing this. This was just the inference of one fan who was rude with her accusations out of the gate.

Jay Naylor

No, it's a very common pose, I've seen it on fetlife countless times.

Gebreel

I also say that there is no problem with this image. I have seen some other images with the same topic and pose but all of them are different because of the artists personal touch. For me there is no difference in two pictures showing the same pose or the billions of pictures out there with a doggystyle position shown. There won’t be any trouble coming up and if yes, you should grab a drink and smile while thinking that this world surprised you once again. :-D

Dude, the similarities are there, but I have seen extremely similar poses used in multiple photos, drawings and paintings. Simply tell the accuser that it s a company and well used basic post in many different media, including movies, and as such the composition, while simlar, really bears little resemblance to the fantasy picture in question. (And you can use that quote, with my permission).

JasonAW3

Fact of the matter is there really is no real protection for art submitted online, it's done largely by an honor system and backed by fans if necessary. While it's crappy it happens, there is nothing anyone can do outside demands, worst case a ban. Now that being said, that does not mean you did this, your long time followers will likely defend you as they'll know you aren't known for doing this. So if someone tries to accuse you of art theft, they'll have to argue against a long history and your fan base to make one coincidence damning evidence that you did this on purpose. All I'd suggest is you let them know you were not aware of the art, and you don't have a record of art theft to speak of. Anyone who continues isn't worth your attention if they don't want to be reasonable

Skellitor301

I remain on FA because I have a massive watch list on FA. If any "big name" artists were to move, I'd follow and watch them elsewhere but that is no reason to 'leave' FA. I may not be an artist, myself (as far as drawing goes) but there is still quite a lot of activity on FA and I still find some really talented artists there. From what I've seen, a lot of artists upload their art to a number of different sites because not everyone is active on the same sites.

Silvador

Poses can't be patented. End of story. Some people just want to draw attention to themselves :)

Kofie

lolwut?! they actually did that? XD that's hilarious. Some people are just... *sigh*

Silvador

I see no reason why you should take down your art. Given the massive amount of people drawing art, today, and the vast history of art that has been draw all across the globe, one should recognise that there are, although not a small number, only so many positions a person can be put into, even with another. It is inevitable that at some point someone will draw an image that is similar in a variety of ways to another image by pure chance, and thus inevitable that someone will be reminded of that other image in your own creation. It's simply a statistical probability and therefore nothing to be concerned about or ashamed of. That being said, if someone else finds some sort of fault with this, then the problem is entirely theirs and they should either move on and not look at the pic, or get over themselves. I mean, just look at how many "squatting spread" positions characters have been drawn in. No-one bats an eye at those. The 'problem' here, I think, is that a position was chosen that is not commonly used. One needs only to reverse the numbers. If this standing, rear view pose was commonly drawn, no-one would be drawing comparisons and crying foul. But if a commonly drawn pose was rarely drawn, it would no doubt remind people of similar images they have seen using that pose. Whether you used the image as a reference or not, again, I see no reason to take your artwork down. Nothing wrong has been done, here.

Silvador

Exactly.

Micah Nightwolf

Alas. I was accused of not fessing up to using a reference when I posted it. I guess it was stark enough to stand out to the viewer, so I left the link in place so others could see.

Jay Naylor

I don't find them all that similar, really. The basic pose is the same, but neither of you is the first to draw it. I wouldn't think either of you copied the other. So I say keep it up.

Dan B

The issue is that it's not a matter of exclusivity. We're not deciding what hotel to stay at. We can be everywhere. The fans can be on all sites, too. There are new fans entering every day, and some of them are entering through FA.

Jay Naylor

If the reason people are on that expressway is to see your work... then you can literally choose whichever expressway you want. Why don't artists realize that?

Jurann MacRae

You put your billboard on the busiest freeways, no matter how bad the potholes.

Jay Naylor

And if you and Scappo and a dozen or two other big-name artists said "Fuck FA, we're going elsewhere", the fans would go with you. The more the merrier. Other sites have even better facilities for advertising and keeping your fans informed about everything from Patreon to streams to things you have for sale. And they don't fuck with the images you upload out of some fear that people will 'identify' your images as yours. =P

Jurann MacRae

No one wants to leave simply because everyone is already there. The logic is ass-backwards but it does make sense for creators to post their content where the largest number of eyeballs will be able to see it. The same thing is true about Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter. That's why I like to call them the "Kim Kardashians of social network sites." They're popular because they're popular. That's it.

Micah Nightwolf

I went out of my way to try not to be as rude as I normally would have been in the past. But I was especially tickled that she did an overlay to ensure I didn't trace.

Jay Naylor

Because it's a hugely trafficked furry site and a great place to let furries know (and remind them) that you're active on Patreon.

Jay Naylor

While similar, they are not the same. If you looked hard enough you could probably find a dozen pictures equally as similar to this, or any other picture you'd care to name. You have produced a good piece of art based on your own characters and should leave it up. Many thanks for your work.

Suski

Speaking of FA... seriously why does anyone even still use the site? Fans and followers will go where the artists go, not "where the traffic is". You've got a few super skeevy dudes (namely Neer and Yak) running a skeevy crapola site that split off dA's software 10+ years ago and hasn't improved a lick since, who then sold-out to ultra-skeevy corporate interest (IMVU) which should have been the death-knell... and there are great alternatives out there like Weasyl, FurryNetwork and InkBunny (I know they have a bad historical rap but it's still a solid site) with more features and better stability and yet... artists don't realize they are the ones who make FA what it is, not Neer and not IMVU. Just fucking leave. You guys all hang out and jam amongst yourselves, you can make a group decision to bail on FA.

Jurann MacRae

Linky for those who want it: <a href="https://www.furaffinity.net/view/26332288/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.furaffinity.net/view/26332288/#cid:126819016</a>

Micah Nightwolf

Yeah, I just read the comments on FA. Proves my point that FA comments can be a dumpster fire. This person starts out by being rude, so I wouldn't be inclined to take them seriously.

Micah Nightwolf

6 year art student here chiming in. Honestly? They're nothing alike. It would be like someone accusing you of drawing two people walking down the street together in similar poses/stages of their gates as they walk. Since it's clear there's no plagiarism or concept-stealing here (no details other than the general pose and angle really match), I wouldn't worry about it unless the artist of the other piece themselves requests you take down the image. I would imagine they're smart, skilled and experienced enough to realize there's zero inference.

Jurann MacRae

This is not serious, but it's one of the things I've always wanted to say to someone. That aside, by my estimation, you are completely in the clear.

Afunnythinghappedtome

Won't matter because by now the picture shared all over the place regardless

FastFoodBun

Whoever is claiming this as copying is hilariously misguided. It’s not, yours is better, and we know you’re not a fraud. Don’t let this stress you out and carry on with being awesome.

Ragnarok

I hold the patent on butts. My lawyers will be contacting you shortly.

Afunnythinghappedtome

There isn’t any similarity other than pose. The angle of the camera, the amount of the female shown, the amount of male shown, clothing, art style, body shape, species, and pretty much everything is different. You don’t need to take anything down.

Gramuel089

I am going to go with what everyone else is saying, it is no contest.

Michael J Simmons

To me the pictures are very different. The "action" in yours and the other artist is a different concept. Heels/No heels, Stockings/no stockings, Panties/no panties. even different hand positions. That aside, look at the number of the famous "Monroe poses" from "The seven year itch" drawings on the net. Look at the number of Mona Lisa inspired works. You can't copyright a pose or a woman's butt.

Jim R

The only similarity is the pose. By that logic, some bellend could have all the art on FA removed because all the poses are similar to other poses. Just search for "missionary" or "doggystyle" on e621 and count all the images that look alike. Keep it up, and only take it down if the other artist asks you to. Also keep in mind, FA comment sections can be a breeding ground for asshattery. They're not as bad as Youtube, thank God, but it only takes one bad person to build a dumpster fire.

Micah Nightwolf

There is a clear solution to this dilemma. Challenge the accuser to back up their convictions by eating a 7 pound burrito. When they inevitably fail, say that you'll not take the art down because they clearly lack belief as shown by their lack of appetite. If, by some weird chance, they manage to eat the 7 pound burrito...then still refuse to take the art down, and when they protest then flip your cape dramatically behind you and declare in your most serious and gravelly voice "So its war, then" and storm off. *Special note: You should be wearing a cape for this process.

DKN

im a ceramic and 3d artist and there are cases where we create very similar creations out of clay and ultimate we as long we both understand that it was not intentional than we just leave them up. especially since there is alot of cases where some art inspires an artist to make something similar under that type of category it makes us fill kinda of honor because its kind of flattering. plus no 2 creations weather it be from the same artist or 2 different artist will never be the same unless the intention is to copy it to an almost identical forum . but this is just from the point of a ceramic artist.

Discreetly Working

If it's a zealous commenter on FA then it sounds like someone picking a detail to gripe about. Anyone can do an image search of a piece and find something that looks like it.

Evirix

Eh, I wouldn't worry about it. I mean, there's only so many positions an individual can draw, eventually you'll end up with a pic with the same general idea as another one. If the coincidence of these two being similar becomes a problem, then I'd hate to start pointing out how similar one doggy-style picture is to another one.

Zuboko

I'll preface this by first saying I'm not an artist, so I don't have that perspective. But as someone who's followed artists who create fan art and/or original art for quite a few years, from what I've seen there really shouldn't be an issue unless there is blatant tracing or art theft involved, which is clearly not the case and anyone who has followed you for any length of time would never accuse you of either. Even if you had referenced the image for its pose, I've never seen anyone, artist or otherwise, really put up a fuss about it. On top of that, there really aren't many similarities between your image and the fantasy piece outside of the two characters general posing. I mean, there's only so many possible poses/positioning, right? If we're going to start taking down images just because they share positioning or other vague similarities to images created before them, there would be a lot less art out there. I really don't understand why this person even gave the vague similarities more than a passing thought. I say don't worry about it and keep the image posted.

Eddie Murphy

No, the original artist didn't. It's a mainstream fantasy piece by the looks of it.

Jay Naylor

There's zero reason to remove it. It's a basic and far from unique position, and they aren't even exactly the same.

Volpethrope

I'm not in contact with that artist. The accusation was made by a zealous commenter on Fur Affinity.

Jay Naylor

It’s not like they are even close to being the same it be like having to remove a image because some one is sitting down on a bench or something and that’s been done a million times before

ScarX_X

You created it. Regardless of what it may or may not be similar to so you can do with it as you wish. No one can tell you otherwise. Personally, looking at that image I cannot believe someone would even bother complaining. There must be thousands of other drawings that could be considered similar.

Wrooty

I don't see an issue here at all. As one of my old art profs used to say, "You can't copyright a pose"... Moreover, it's pretty obvious you didn't trace over the other artist's image, so I wouldn't feel bad in the slightest about it.

Andrew Hunter

I don't like satanic stuff so

Durango Foller

Since that pose has been done more than just these two times, spend a few hours on the net and read a few books, and humans tend to have very similar mindsets on thing I would say leave it up. Honestly if someone makes a big deal about it then they are just as much an ass as the guy that pushes veganism as though it is the saving grace of society. I forget who coined the phrase but it goes: “You will only ever have three original ideas on your lifetime.” That’s pretty much how things work, it’s not often an artist (of any variety) comes up with something that is truly original and takes no resemblance to anything else that has ever been created before. For example, take the hottest car on the market, whatever that might be to you, is it unique? No, most of it is just a tweaking of an already established idea, but I bet you bottom dollar there are people that will say it is either the most original thing ever to hit the streets or say it is just a copy of someone else’s work. It’s going to happen. Another example: The telephone, created by two separate people during the same time period, the only reason Bell got the credit was because he got to the patent office a little faster. Keep your work up, if the other artist(s) and neigh sayers make an issue of it, explain yourself and the fact that until it was brought to your attention you had no idea the other image(s) existed. I feel this might have been a little long winded. Also, I used cars as an example because I use to restore them for a living and you would not believe how often people get called copycats for building and painting them a certain way.

Sphynx

umm it's a pretty generic shot, I don't see the issue here. Your picture is different enough without being an issue.

Cayen

No, let's get real here there are only so many angles you can draw someone going down on someone could you imagine how many law suits there would be if some had trade marked the money shot? no harm no fowl

Durango Foller

Is the original artist the one making an issue of it? If not I wouldn't spare a thought to it. Even if he did, does he have a team of disney lawyers that place copyright on that specific pose or something? The internet astounds me with how things get blown out of proportion, this discussion shouldn't even be a thing. Please don't take it down and don't apologize, especially not because people are whinging for it. To think that of the hundreds of millions or artists on the planet, two individuals would draw a similar picture should not be a topic of discussion. Don't take it down, nothing wrong has been done.

Joseph

I’m sure that if you search the internet you will find that someone drew a picture or took a photo with someone in the same position. Everything has already been done before. So, if you truly didn’t used it as a template, there is no issue and there is no need to feel guilty.

Christophe GABEL

You should probably ask the artist of the other drawing if yours is too much alike, claim that this image was brought to your attention after yours was drawn. In my opinion though the only similarities between the two is the poses which shouldn't be too big of a deal. In the other drawing it shows a demonlike creature and a full body of the girl being wrapped in what looks like tenticles. In yours it's beth getting her panties dropped. You can go the extra mile and ask the other artist if you're crossing bounds, but I'm also sure that this comparison was just a "this reminds me of this." I'm sure something like this has happened multitudes of times.

Evirix

There's no reason to think you copied it, in my opinion. Similarities are always a thing, but your images have two different themes, and said pose is... very common, in porn. You're safe, man.

bloodclaw

I say as long as you don't try to sell the drawings as prints and make sure you say you didn't know that photo existed, you'll be okay. It's a pose I'm sure has been drawn before, and it'll be drawn again. they don't own the pose

thatsaltybobcat

I would call this safely in coincidence territory-- if we took down every picture that was similar to another, the internet would be barren

Meesh

Personally while the camera position is similar the demon is hugging here (and probably eating her out) our orange Anthro here is pulling her panties down. So the action in my opinion makes it different enough. Still I think you should keep it up as it's an excellent image and is in no way an attempt to copy the other artist

pokediginut

This is not an uncommon position and this is so different - furries versus demons, unclothing versus grabbing thighs. Any image can be found to have thousands similar to it - don't sweat it.

nekomancer

Just seems like an honest coincidence. I don't see why any action should be taken.

SummerHeart

They are different enough I do not see any issues.

Ivory Sai'ee

Intriguing, but since this a purely coincidental so neither party is at fault so I’ll say keep it up.

Bolt

Software engineer not an artist, but I say keep it up. You're innocent of copying, the image is different enough that even if you referenced it it shouldn't matter, and the world needs more booty, not less.

ArcadeDragon