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CM Punk and Jack Perry had disagreement over spot involving glass

There was another issue with an AEW talent that CM Punk brought face-to-face.

Towards the start of Punk’s AEW Collision run, during the Canada tapings, Jungle Boy Jack Perry was brought to Collision to film a segment, and the two had words about the plans that Perry was supposedly pushing.

According to those on the side of Punk, Perry wanted to use real glass for a backstage segment. Punk was of the belief that he did this so he didn’t need to come to work the next week, which he sees as a big problem in the company. We weren't given clarity as to whether or not this was because the spot was dangerous or because Perry would have fulfilled a needed date ahead of time. Sometimes AEW does pre-tapes on previous shows to air the next week.

Per Punk’s side of things, Perry was going against production, doctors and Tony Schiavone advising him not to do it and them telling him that smashing real glass was a safety hazard, and Perry wasn’t happy with that. Shortly after, there were guidelines put in place and forwarded to talent of things that required clearance.

Punk’s claim was that he was asked to step in and calmly said that they don’t do that on Saturdays (for Collision) and if he doesn’t like it, he could stay on Wednesdays. Word of the situation had made its way around the locker room, and was referred to as an argument. Punk's claim was that Perry was throwing a temper tantrum over the spot not being cleared and people trying to prevent it.

We reached out to Jack Perry but did not hear back.

We weren't told how the situation ended, but several that we heard from agreed with the stance Punk at least claimed.

For those claiming that the tweet was misrepresentative of the story, it was called an "argument" by numerous people familiar with the situation. That is also an incredibly weird thing to get hung up on.

Comments

I believe Scorpio got injured a couple weeks ago

Aaron Kubisak

Perry sounds professional here in that he's not crying to the dirtsheets whenever he has an issue.

The Lane Family

Reading must not be your strong suit. Punk isn't management or talent relations and has no standing to tell another talent anything. He is a performer. Nothing more. Nothing less. And a hot headed one at that who doesn't choose his words carefully.

Forceofwilliam

Quick question, is reason why we've only seen Scorpio sky once on collision because he's friends with the Young bucks and punk is being a child man about it, I feel like punk has been having this hard on against southern California wrestlers, also I hate the argument punk is using against Christopher Daniels not being allowed because ace steel isn't allowed, ace steel was directly involved in the fight and bit someone where as cd was not involved with the direct fight and was only there to deescalate like you would assume is talent relations job, honestly at this point just fire punk im done with him in any form of power/tony waving power around at his behest

Charles Nault

This response seems riddled in "I don't care about the advice, I just care that it's Punk!" more than anything else. You're getting mad at him for doing the RIGHT thing because you dislike him for something entirely unrelated. That's not his fault, that's your fault. If he deserves criticism for something, then criticize him. If he does something good, don't criticize him.

Terps

Even if asked, I question the logic of sending Punk to handle interpersonal conflict when he can't even manage his own interpersonal conflicts appropriately. He definitely shouldn't have said "Leave that on Wednesday" either. Punk doesn't solve issues, he exacerbates them.

Forceofwilliam

Tell that to the people who asked him to talk to Jack Perry.

Nostradamvs

Yeah

Shmingy Dingy

I feel like if you're pretending to be a locker room leader, you don't go around doing locker room leader shit, like trying to convince younger guys to not risk their lives and careers on stupid spots involving real glass. That sounds like actual leadership stuff.

Nostradamvs

The dude literally is the leader in the locker room. For Collision anyway.

Nostradamvs

According to Alvarez, Jungle Boy wanted to do a pretape involving a car in order to write his character off of TV for a week so he could go on a planned vacation.

Nostradamvs

Alvarez reported that Jungle Boy wanted to do a pretape segment with a car so he could be written off of TV in order to go on a planned vacation.

Nostradamvs

According to Alvarez, Jungle Boy wanted to do a pretape to write himselff off of TV for a week so he could go on a planned vacation.

Nostradamvs

Lol exactly

Shannon Willis

While Punk was correct about not using real glass, the comment about saving it for Wednesdays was uncalled for. Also, of every single wrestler in the locker room, you’re telling me it was Punk people decided to bring in to talk sense into Jack? Tbh, it would have been way less inflammatory and would have made more sense to me had they called someone like Anna Jay (Jack’s girlfriend) to talk him down.

Alice Hoffman

Could this be a reference to the elite taking a week off (god forbid) after their blood and guts match?

BC_Auron

You meet an asshole once, you met an asshole… you meet assholes all day long? You’re the asshole. “If he doesn’t like it he can stay on Wednesdays”? Punk get a promotion? He cutting the checks?

Matt Graham

‘CM Punk had an argument with Larry over missing his music cue’

John Agostini

It's not Punk's place to say shit. That's why you have managers, coaches, trainers, and talent relations to talk to talent. Punk thinks he is all of those and only makes situations worse by getting involved. Punk needs to shut up and let TK run the company.

Forceofwilliam

LOL... WHAT?

Jeff Perullo 1LTPHOTO 2LTCOLPhoto

Where it doesn't belong? You're talking about hitting someone with actual fuckin glass lmao. Tf you mean? We're talking about long-term serious injury just because they didn't check the glass before the spot. There is absolutely 0 issue with a veteran wrestler to step up and say that shit isn't okay. Punk did exactly what he should've done and it might've saved them a potential disaster.

Terps

Well, if Punk wouldn't have kicked Daniels out of Collision for being too buddy buddy with the Elite, he may have been there to talk Jack down from the spot.

Forceofwilliam

Cool. Then have Tony send Jack out and be the manager. Punk inserting himself into any interpersonal conflict is a really bad idea.

Forceofwilliam

He's right, but it's not his place to get involved. Punk is definitely not management and should be the absolute last person handling talent relations and interpersonal conflicts in the company.

Forceofwilliam

Sorry, when was Punk promoted to management or talent relations. Punk is literally the last person who should be sticking his nose into interpersonal conflicts in a company because he takes everything way to personally.

Forceofwilliam

Sticking his nose where it doesn't belong? Punk isn't management or talent relations and should not be putting himself in those roles. Punk is literally the worst person possible to handle an interpersonal conflict between anybody.

Forceofwilliam

His stance was right, but Punk is just a performer. He is not management, he is not physicians, and he is not talent relations. It's not his place to tell a wrestler anything. Punk is literally the last person I would send it to try to resolve an interpersonal conflict with anyone.

Forceofwilliam

after the doctors, producers, and even Tony S say no, for some reason they thought Phil should get involved? I'll wait for the whole story.

BugabooJonez

per the article they tried and jack shut them down

William Rosmer

I'm normally not a Punk advocate, but he did absolutely nothing wrong here.

rocksolid124

He literally did nothing wrong here.

rocksolid124

I wonder having someone like Mark Henry, Paul Wight, Tony Schiavione, or Jim Ross be the Director of Talent Relations over Daniels would be an improvement? No reason to think CD isn't doing his job, but maybe he's too connected to the Elite, or not retired has anything to do with, or maybe just doesn't have the power from above to handle things. Just throwing things out there.

Robbie Wray

Through all the drama and constant gossip, it's mind-blowing this keeps happening over and over again, in AEW. Tony has his hands full with fragile egos, and understadn he has to walk carefully between multiple parties, but he needs to step up and nip this in the bud. It should've been done a year and a half ago.

Robbie Wray

the same people bitchin about this will be begging Sean by Friday about updates on Johnny Gargano and Randy Orton

Jeffrey Pollard

The glass for Blood & Guts was very much NOT real.

ryrevue

He's on Collision. He has a crew of people on that show, that are there because they don't hate him. It's his island, and Jack was probably testing it. Notice, that only Darby is on that show, and the other three are staying on Wednesdays.

Jason S Wooten

Reminds me of the Jade Cargill story where Jade was asked to do a chair spot, and she literally didn't even know how to hit a wrestler with a chair properly because she's so green, so she asked Punk. Punk told her how to do the chair spot, because apparently the producers weren't going to show her. They sorta just ask their wrestlers to do some of these spots and then totally leave them to their own devices without asking if they're comfortable doing it or if they have experience doing it. Even if people dislike Punk's attitude a lot, this was a GOOD thing that he did. This is not him being petty or difficult, this is him doing something that one of the producers should've done.

Terps

People are going to bitch about Punk from this story, but regardless of how you feel about him or his issues with the EVPs, he's 100% right here. How can everyone not agree on that? They were just going to go ahead and let him use real glass for this spot without checking first? The fuck is this? Punk may be wrong about many other things, but he's right in this scenario. Not really much of a debate. Thankfully he was fuckin there too, because it sounds like they would've gone ahead and done it without his input.

Terps

Let's be real Punk isn't saying shit to Mox. 🤣🤣

Troy A Palek

Yeah, people who hate subscribe are actually hilarious

Troy A Palek

hey if someone feels a spot is unsafe, cant blame em for speaking up to protect somebody from themselves. Perhaps Jack desnt have the experience or the body of work in the business to understand this like some veterans would.

e d

I'm not saying this story is the most damning towards Punk (clearly since it's from his side), but at what point does this man's affect on the locker room become more important than his draw? He's constantly being contradictory and (sometimes not so) passive aggressive while he claims to not want "drama". It's tired man.

iightSoBoom

How is punk wrong here for looking after the saftey of a coworker

Jake Salazar

Exactly. I'm not seeing how this is any different than what he was accusing the Bucks of doing.

iightSoBoom

I am just so effing tired of punk right now

James Zimmerman

This is very true. Having Tony or someone else in management handle bringing this to Jack would've been the much better move.

Marq

grew up in Hollywood, no clue that stunt people don't like using glass either (sugar glass...something gimmicked, etc)

Billionaire Chimp

He's not wrong, but my bigger question is why should he have been involved to begin with. What interpersonal conflict situation has been made better by adding CM Punk into the mix.

Forceofwilliam

I know the moment. We still shouldn't be judging what is safe or not based on someone who concussed themselves on a door. Clearly, using real glass is stupid, but Goldberg should never be used for any measurement of anything.

Forceofwilliam

TK has coddled these brats so much they don’t even wanna work one day a week.

Joel Allison

They meant when Goldberg put his fist thru the NWO's limo window and nearly killed himself by hitting an artery

Troy A Palek

Sorry but did I miss the press release when Punk became co-CEO of AEW or was handed the keys to run Collision? 🤔

Spenny

Wait, that's what you got from this story?? Interesting....

Troy A Palek

This was my thoughts exactly lol

Jayson Major

Well, then get out, bitch. No one is keeping you here. Delete Patreon and you don't have to worry about it any more.

Forceofwilliam

Goldberg rings a bell

Troy A Palek

So you pay for this patreon and believe 10% of what's reported??

Troy A Palek

Remember when he said "I'm running a business" with his boss sitting right next to him. Even thought Punk doesn't have an official role, he still sees himself as the most important person for AEW. He had no reason to step into this situation and decided to do it any way.

Forceofwilliam

I'd say you will be missed but i hate lying

Troy A Palek

I believe the answer is yes. Lol

Troy A Palek

Yes dynamite has also. But that’s been occasion for years. On dynamite I also don’t have to watch “the face of the show” look so bad unless it’s multi man matches.

Jayson Major

Watch collision mate I watched on Saturday they fucked the ending

Jayson Major

Does Punk have an official role here or was he again just being a busybody?

Ryan Cremeans

Was he intended to be a part of the pre tape?

Jayson Major

For those claiming that the tweet was misrepresentative of the story, it was called an "argument" by numerous people familiar with the situation. That is also an incredibly weird thing to get hung up on.

Fightful Select

Multiple occasions he’s worked with Darby I’m curious if he’s ever told him similar

Jayson Major

He teamed with Darby allin why is he not saying the same to him tho?

Jayson Major

But Punk is not a boss and nothing good could have come from Punk getting involved as Punk does not handle interpersonal conflict well.

Forceofwilliam

Punk is very clearly a general issue from what I can tell. But in this specific case he's really not in the wrong based on what's being reported here

Marq

Goldberg concussed himself on a door. What Goldberg does or doesn't do should not be a barometer for anything.

Forceofwilliam

Was punk supposed to be a part of a segment with Jack Perry? I’m unsure on that also

Jayson Major

What is it about this story that becomes the 10% you choose to believe? Out of curiosity

Jayson Major

Jack Perry sounds more and more like a moron the more I hear about him.

SlickRob

Fake glass is designed to essentially shatter into a billion pieces so it’s safer for stunts. Real glass does not do that, it’s shatters in random patterns and can cut deep

Jon Blain

Nobody comes out of this one looking good. Perry sounds like he’s immature and Punk sounds like he’s pretending to be the ‘locker room leader’ nobody believes him to be except Bald.

David C

"Perry was going against production, doctors and Tony Schiavone advising him not to do it" Sounds like Punk was more of a last ditch attempt to convince Jack otherwise, talent-to-talent

Trevor Robb

I don't have a dog in the fight but Phil saying "aye big dawg take that outlaw sh!t to the Wednesday show" is hilarious

Justin A. Thomas

Isn't that Goldberg story with real glass legendary at this point? Regardless of why using it seems like a risk not even remotely worth it.

Insomnia Inc

I watch Collison weekly. I see a bunch of FTR and Ricky Starks tags and trio matches where they are carrying Punk so hard that I'm shocked their back isn't broken yet. He was outperformed by pushing 60 Kojima at Forbidden Door. I know he's your hero, but Punk doesn't have it.

Forceofwilliam

So you're willfully ignorant then and ignore facts. You already invalidated your opinions multiple times just in this thread, but as long as you agree you're cherry picking the news you want to agree with, we can be under the understanding that your thoughts on anything related to Punk and the Elite should be ignored.

Forceofwilliam

Young wrestler needed to be talked out of doing something dumb.

Brian Bayless

"Towards the start of Punk’s AEW Collision run, during the Canada tapings" for all of the passive aggressive corrections you make, you sure overlooked that!

Fightful Select

Ikr I had a chuckle at him after his first 5 minutes at Forbidden Door, he was sucking wind with his mouth wide open and covered in sweat. While his opponent nearly a decade older, was Daisy fresh with dry hair.

Dan Morrow

Bye

Tempo1337

I haven’t seen any facts other than The Elite being spoiled brats . I’m not even that big of a Punk fan I’m just sick of the Elite crying about everything and constantly running to dirt sheets.

Joel Allison

Except it's not Punk's place to shut it down. If Tony had an issue with Jack's recommendation, he could have used coaches and talent relations to address the issue. Sending CM Punk for anything that might cause interpersonal conflict is a bad idea since he takes everything personally.

Forceofwilliam

Yeah, this definitely sounds believable. Just like how manure sounds tasty. /s

CSDX

Agree with Punk here. It was reckless for Perry to want to do this. Glad he stepped in.

Corey Moore

Sounds like CM Punk is a little high on being the locker room leader. Reminds me of that old Booker T story lol.

Shmingy Dingy

There's so much about this I don't understand. Why would Perry WANT to use real glass? "Punk was of the belief that he did this so he didn’t need to come to work the next week" -- so Punk thought Perry wanted to intentionally hurt himself so he could get a week of work, is that what that's supposed to mean? And I think it's a big problem if the company is reaching out to any wrestlers to try to police the other wrestlers. That's not other wrestler's jobs and will surely lead to bad locker room morale. I'm not saying I don't believe this story, but I feel like it's missing some information. Also, this is the second or third story over the past couple of days where "punk's side" is leaking information. For somebody just wanting to get along in the locker room, that really seems suspicious.

Jimmy 'Big Sexy' Genslinger

I guess you don't have to believe reports when you're dick riding Punk as hard as you are. Your line of thought is why MAGA people can't believe Trump committed any crimes. You're willingly ignoring facts that make you feel bad.

Forceofwilliam

Watch Collision and you will see great matches that actually make sense unlike Dynamite.

Joel Allison

What great matches? He had a decent match with Joe and then....nothing. Punk's matches are 3 to 4 star at best.

Forceofwilliam

You need to stop believing everything you read I believe about 10 percent of what get posted dirt sheets are the fed agenda info rarely facts.

Joel Allison

Didn't he just work with Darby Allen two weeks ago and that's Darby's whole gimmick of doing dangerous stuff. He only cares about whether you suck up to him. He doesn't give a shit about anyone's safety.

Forceofwilliam

Remember 3 months ago where the apologists were saying we'd all soon just be taking about his great matches? Lol

Dan Morrow

Nice to finally see a Punk report where I agree with him! The remarks further dividing Wednesdays and Saturdays notwithstanding

Ray Hernandez

Punk is no one's boss despite your desire for it to be true. If someone had a problem with Jack's spot, it needed to be someone who is actually in leadership, not CM Punk. Tony, one of the coaches, or one of the talent relations people that Punk hadn't tossed out of the building should have talked to Jack.

Forceofwilliam

Punk making sure Perry doesn't kill himself is bad? Punk's actually being a decent leader here.

slick

Curious when this happened. Did Perry have a segment with glass or was it scrapped altogether? Was the glass for Blood & Guts real? Maybe Mox gets carte blanche?

Excellence of Flexecution

Dude it’s my opinion your not changing it move the fuck on.

Joel Allison

Punk could have shot and killed Jack on the spot and you would still be defending him, Joel. Your opinion ain't shit.

Forceofwilliam

Can we get a 'CM Punk had a _____ with _____ over ______' randomizer, because this is just comical. And sad. It's like every episode of Family Matters when Carl gets tired of Steve barging into the house.

Shannon Willis

If Tony had a problem with it, Tony should have stepped in. It's not on Tony to delegate to CM Punk of all people. This seems like something the head of talent relations should handle, but Punk apparently tossed him from the building too.

Forceofwilliam

Schiavone was around when Goldberg was seriously injured with real glass

Richman

Punk was upset that the elite missed a tv taping at one point. Is that related to him thinking that real glass is being used to take time off?

thenumber9door

Doesnt make it right for Punk to say that. Probably better to say "hey we need you here and this could hurt you physically and slow down your story".

Ryan Lemire

This bit is what strikes me as the weirdest part "Punk was of the belief that he did this so he didn’t need to come to work the next week, which he sees as a big problem in the company."

James Horgan

Probably get cut up pretty bad as opposed to like fake glass made from sugar or tempered glass.

thaddperkins

Not for much longer, thank fuck

Matthew Daley

Jesus dude.

thenumber9door

I mean, if that is the case, Punk is definitely right to help shut that idea down

Trevor Robb

Issue Perry his walking papers

Scott Harris

Yeah this seems more Jack Perry is an idiot. The way Punk handled it is how he's been doing it since early 2000 ROH days. Probably assumed that Perry wanted a week off. However definitely seems Perry is just being a typical actor in Hollywood.

Ryan Lemire

Yeah on the glass side of the situation, I’m mostly with Punk here.

Cody Berntsen

You sub to this Patreon

Steve Corrente

I actually agree with punk on it being a safety hazard. I don’t really understand why it had to be him stepping in to tell perry though

Nick banda

Well to be fair, Punk was correct here. Broken clock and all that.

Ry

Cause that gives off the same vibes as military people shooting them selves in the foot just to get sent home. Like is it that bad? Everything else except THAT will be taken from this story.

Steve Corrente

“He was asked to step in”

Christopher Eckhoff

Fightful is just the messenger buddy

Busby

Yeah, I'm Team Punk on this one.

Kurtis Allen

Pepsi Phil should buy AEW from Tony

Chris Kessler

Not a Punk fan lately, but he was in the right this time.

Wyll Banta

I mean, someone's gotta do it.

Kurtis Allen

Why is all of this being aired right now? All seems a bit pathetic - why tf would you use real glass

Alex KP

Real Glass sounds like a terrible idea. Ask anyone who has done that. You can sever a nerve or an artery. Dumb.

Philip John Basile

Phil is the gift that keeps on giving.

BKRMKR

Yeah, that's my question too.

Bill Bodkin

jack sounds like a huge baby

Andrew Cieslak

Confused on how using real glass would mean he doesn’t need to come to work?

thenumber9door

Just so we are clear. Is Punk making the claim, through this report, that people purposely doing hazardous spots so they can get the week off, is a common thing? Cause..

Steve Corrente

I’m with Punk on this Jack has always seemed to have a lazy side to him.

Joel Allison

It’s less than two weeks until AEW’s biggest show, time for the dirtsheets to do as much as they can to make the company look like shit.

Matthew Daley

Jesus Christ, can Tony sit Punk down and remind him who is the boss of the company? Spoiler Alert: It's not Punk.

Forceofwilliam

Seems fair, to be honest. The “keep it on Wednesday” is lame, but whatever.

thenumber9door

If this is all the story is, it's just Jack Perry being a brat 😭

CMRN

So is Punk in charge or Tony Khan? This is a rhetorical question.

Busby

Yeah I'm with Punk on this one.

Helios Eusebio

So how exactly is this supposed to be a slight on punk like people are already making it out to be lol

CMRN

Everything is getting aired out now.

Niners94


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