Forbidden Door SCOOPS THREAD and live discussion
Added 2023-06-25 22:58:02 +0000 UTCWelcome to our Forbidden Door SCOOPS THREAD!! Feel free to discuss the show below
- We're told there's been concern Adam Cole was banged up after his match with MJF, but he's still expected to appear on TV. He is actually out of tonight with an illness.
- There was consideration of having Tom Lawlor face someone else on Forbidden Door main show but it didn't end up happening. Serpentico vs. Tom Lawlor was a dark match before the show, with Lawlor winning. This was a very last second decision.
- Giulia referenced the "Forbidden Door" this weekend. As mentioned recently, AEW had indicated interest to Stardom in using her in the future.
- Not that this is any surprise, but sources on the NJPW side expect Forbidden Door to continue as a tradition moving forward.
- Britt Baker traveled into town last night but hasn't been announced for the show as of yet.
- Before the broadcast, Christian came out with Luchasaurus to heel the crowd.
- Thunder Rosa is at the show.
- Gedo has been at Dynamite, Collision and Forbidden Door.
- Kenny Omega & the Young Bucks and CM Punk were put on completely different sides of the building at Forbidden Door, we're told.
- Toni Storm had her nose busted during her match.
- Ospreay and Omega's spots were both blade jobs.
Comments
Wait, what legal issues? Who filed a lawsuit?
CSDX
2023-06-26 15:41:14 +0000 UTCIncredible PPV. One of my all time favs. Now I’m hoping for NJPW DLC in the Fight Forever game.
Devin Cox
2023-06-26 13:44:20 +0000 UTCMaybe just until any legal issues subside?
John McNeill
2023-06-26 12:54:36 +0000 UTCI was legit worried that he injured his right arm
Brent Hirose
2023-06-26 05:27:35 +0000 UTCWe walked by Yujiro Takahashi as we left the afternoon Toronto Blue Jays game.
Stacey BookSavvy
2023-06-26 05:06:01 +0000 UTC"Kenny Omega & the Young Bucks and CM Punk were put on completely different sides of the building at Forbidden Door, we're told." Do...does Tony really think he can keep this going for the rest of their careers?
CSDX
2023-06-26 04:03:23 +0000 UTCGreat match between Danielson and Okada. I could see them running it back at Tokyo Dome in WK18 since I don't think Okada is winning G1.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 03:58:03 +0000 UTCIt goes without saying, but Danielson is the best at scaring the absolute shit out of us with his selling.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 03:51:32 +0000 UTCThis is the best aew ppv since......forbidden door 1 (BTW I'm not saying the rest have been bad in anyway but something about njpw and aew really does click well)
John McNeill
2023-06-26 03:37:12 +0000 UTCThis PPV is clicking on all cylinders.
rocksolid124
2023-06-26 03:35:01 +0000 UTCTK the mad man did it. He got "Final Countdown".
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 03:24:40 +0000 UTCLooked brutal. Amazing match
Glen Flanders
2023-06-26 03:24:07 +0000 UTCThe tiger driver normally is a sit down move (ie piledriver with an underhook) will sat down like a tombstone it didn't really give much protection
John McNeill
2023-06-26 03:22:47 +0000 UTCThat was the Tiger Driver 91. The version Kenny normally uses is the Tiger Driver 98
Nick_713
2023-06-26 03:20:46 +0000 UTCIs that how the Tiger driver looks? Looked like he dropped him right on his head.
Glen Flanders
2023-06-26 03:03:21 +0000 UTCHope Kenny is okay!
steve
2023-06-26 03:00:46 +0000 UTCYeah might need a replay for the first one but yeah I think they might have just topped it
John McNeill
2023-06-26 03:00:14 +0000 UTCThat "tiger driver 91" looked absolutely sick
John McNeill
2023-06-26 02:59:01 +0000 UTCI have to go back and watch the WK17 match, but this match may be better.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 02:56:36 +0000 UTCI heard Kate was getting chicken tindies.... just a rumor though. 🤣🤣
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 02:23:08 +0000 UTCNo I agree I think both Sanada and Jack Perry are very talented performers but I never looked at that match and thought, that could be a great match. Very weird build both men basically saying they'd never watched each other before. The whole thing was a bit weird never made you want to see it more.
John McNeill
2023-06-26 02:20:32 +0000 UTCPeople kept saying that match would be like orange/Ospreay last year in that it had minimal expectations but would be a great match. I'm not sure it even met the minimal expectations
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 02:15:38 +0000 UTCMaybe, but I think time limit draw can set up 2 out of 3 falls for All In.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 02:15:13 +0000 UTCI was expecting Zenith of God, but he brought out his Assassin theme.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 02:14:13 +0000 UTCSurely it would be Ospeary win for a decider at All In?
John McNeill
2023-06-26 02:13:54 +0000 UTCWhat’re the basham brothers doing there
Spencer Van Eaton
2023-06-26 02:12:29 +0000 UTCWho's ready for a time limit draw between Omega and Osprey to set up All In? I'm assuming this match and Danielson vs. Okada are the only matches left tonight.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 02:10:53 +0000 UTCI agree, don't get me wrong I think most title matches you can say at least 75/25 you might know who's winning. But both iwgp and aew title matches there was absolutely no chance there was ever going to be one. As a fan as great as a match can be from quality pov you want to be able to suspend your disbelief at who might win.
John McNeill
2023-06-26 02:02:29 +0000 UTCThat match was great, pleasantly surprised at the ending
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 01:57:58 +0000 UTCOr make them non title. I hate the wwe brand supremacy thing but that kinda would work for this event
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 01:56:50 +0000 UTCReally bad crowd shot after the willow/toni video package showed just how many people using it as a piss break 😂
John McNeill
2023-06-26 01:55:34 +0000 UTCSurprised and very happy to see him get that pinfall. When he got tagged in I thought for sure it was to eat a pinfall
John McNeill
2023-06-26 01:53:48 +0000 UTCFinally, Ishii getting some shine. That has to be his first win in AEW.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 01:52:38 +0000 UTCI think it was a weird match to have honestly in the first place. So many more "realistic" options. It just seemed like a very safe option to have jack Perry to lose rather than a top star. My only criticism of the forbidden door concept is if you aren't going to make these title matches bigger than just don't have title matches? If that makes sense use the event for stable wars
John McNeill
2023-06-26 01:42:54 +0000 UTCMox pulling out his NJPW theme tonight. That's awesome.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 01:29:13 +0000 UTCThe original thought that he was banged up wasn't a concussion situation right? Cuz thats scary if it was
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 01:28:30 +0000 UTCI feel the real news would have been if he didn't bring said red shoes
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 01:26:51 +0000 UTCThat Sanada match was weird. Looked like the finish came real quickly. Almost like they used the NJPW title match just to turn jungle boy. I expected more from that match
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 01:25:49 +0000 UTCNot a bad illness. Several people under the weather
Fightful Select
2023-06-26 01:11:06 +0000 UTCWe need news on red shoes. I don't even mind if it's just red shoes had his red shoes with him, it deserves to be noted
John McNeill
2023-06-26 01:09:23 +0000 UTCAny word on why they changed the "Just 5 Guys" entrance to just music? I really prefer their actual NJPW entrance.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 01:07:05 +0000 UTCFirst hand experience? If not then I'm not sure you can call it anything. Scuffles don't involve lawyers 9 months later though do they? I hope you are right I hope it leads to something good on tv one day but for now yep there is unfortunately whatever is happening is still happening or lawyers wouldn't be involved. I don't know what happened but that is literally fact. I as a fan have nothing to get over tbh I can't speak for anyone else
John McNeill
2023-06-26 00:59:53 +0000 UTCFigured Larry would be the grown up and talk it out. Lol
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 00:52:36 +0000 UTCI mean on that one I wouldn't blame him so much. Lol
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 00:51:50 +0000 UTCIt was a scuffle. Using the word assault repeatedly is being overly emotive. If fans still aren't over it then I guess the company has an excuse. In 5 years this will be a footnote barely worth mentioning
Jack McInally
2023-06-26 00:50:06 +0000 UTCNo Larry has spoken to all parties involved there is no heat with Larry he was seen drinking milk with Kenny omega
John McNeill
2023-06-26 00:48:42 +0000 UTCLarry is there for revenge on some poor schmuck
Jake Starr
2023-06-26 00:45:17 +0000 UTCI mean considering it involved physical assault I cannot believe that anyone thinks its OK to just say "grow up and get over it" tbh. This wasn't a disagreement it was a physical assault...... with lawyers and litigation involved. Not here to argue either but your view like all of ours is only based on limited information because no one still knows what actually happened and is still ongoing. They all show up they all do their job and they all do what they are "paid to do"
John McNeill
2023-06-26 00:44:34 +0000 UTCI'm sure Punk will have an interview next week with ESPN and complain about it too despite winning.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 00:42:58 +0000 UTCAhh, classic case of randoms on the Internet thinking they know what goes on day to day in a wrestling company
rocksolid124
2023-06-26 00:42:43 +0000 UTCAfter someone is physically assaulted, you don't get to say how long it takes for someone to get over it. Also, lawyers are likely still involved.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 00:41:49 +0000 UTC100% no I think I hope he ends up in aew. But after his njpw issues to show up on the joint show signing for aew would be a bit of a slap in the face to the relationship between the companies.
John McNeill
2023-06-26 00:40:50 +0000 UTCThey have to be kept separate and miss shows due to it. I'm not here to argue. I cannot believe nearly a year on people are still against the idea they all need to grow up and get over it
Jack McInally
2023-06-26 00:40:45 +0000 UTCLarry has warrants in Chicago and isn't allowed to travel internationally. Larry is that much of a bad ass.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 00:40:40 +0000 UTCThat flying elbow to the nuts was gnarly.
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 00:40:30 +0000 UTCLarry has heat with Ace cuz people originally blamed him for biting Kenny. Lol
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 00:39:56 +0000 UTCJust because you are "paid alot of money" doesn't change the issues that came from it? They are all "paid alot of money" to wrestle and all of them fulfil those commitments without any issues? So them being paid alot of money has no baring on the topic because all of them show and wrestle which is their jobs no one is questioning that any of them do that?
John McNeill
2023-06-26 00:37:18 +0000 UTCDo we know what locker room Larry is in? He may still have some unresolved issues with the roster.
John Agostini
2023-06-26 00:35:35 +0000 UTCI'd like to understand how lawyers are involved because you say that TK is enabling it but the fact there is lawyers still involved to this day would suggest there is a legal issue? So it might not be TK enabling it more working around it?
John McNeill
2023-06-26 00:35:05 +0000 UTCYeah well we'd all have been suspended and put on a disciplinary. Then expected to come back to work. Or we would have all just been fired. They're paid a lot of money. It's time to get over it
Jack McInally
2023-06-26 00:34:35 +0000 UTCDo we know how severe the illness is for Cole or if it’s something not expected to be a long term issue?
Jake Starr
2023-06-26 00:33:06 +0000 UTCWhile I generally agree, I don't think your coworkers threw chairs at your head and bit you.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 00:32:13 +0000 UTCI kind of feel like Tony khan is enabling it now by not telling everyone to get over themselves and work together. I have to work with people I don't like every day.
Jack McInally
2023-06-26 00:30:56 +0000 UTCI don't think the Bucks are there yet. I'm assuming the Bucks and Hangman will be there after Punk finishes his match and leaves.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 00:29:55 +0000 UTCI'm guessing the Young Bucks and Kenny not just Kenny?
A
2023-06-26 00:29:14 +0000 UTCI'm assuming Punk is heading out after his match and the Bucks and Hangman will be coming in after he leaves.
Forceofwilliam
2023-06-26 00:28:52 +0000 UTCInteresting little nugget there
CMRN
2023-06-26 00:28:19 +0000 UTCIt is way different. NJPW's are better to take bumps into and on, and I always found them easier to climb.
Fightful Select
2023-06-26 00:25:43 +0000 UTCAnyone know if the turnbuckle being different is a legit reason Tana can't seem to balance on them? Its a great cover if not
Troy A Palek
2023-06-26 00:17:29 +0000 UTCFrom what I heard Ibushi said a while back that they may have actually had discussions so it sounds like it’s at least getting sorted out now, but it’s probably at blood and guts regardless but there’s still a chance knowing that
M
2023-06-25 23:20:27 +0000 UTCYeah I do. Would be a great addition.
Shout out to Gianna Michaels. Need her at DPW ASAP
2023-06-25 23:13:16 +0000 UTCyou think for blood and guts?
emmanuel eh
2023-06-25 23:12:45 +0000 UTCNah, not with the relationship issues with NJPW and Ibushi. Maybe in the next few weeks tho.
Shout out to Gianna Michaels. Need her at DPW ASAP
2023-06-25 23:11:59 +0000 UTCy’all reckon ibushi shows up tonight ?
emmanuel eh
2023-06-25 23:09:14 +0000 UTCHopefully Lawler gets the match with Adam Cole on Dynamite or collision or something in the future
CMRN
2023-06-25 23:05:57 +0000 UTCBummed for Adam Cole :(
Andrew Bates
2023-06-25 23:04:19 +0000 UTCThis is that shit we like to see <3
Fightful Select
2023-06-25 23:03:21 +0000 UTCfor a guy who certainly had a period where he thought he’d never wrestle again, i love it for christian that he’s so confident this isn’t his farewell tour yet that he’s heeling it up in his hometown
Noah Ross
2023-06-25 23:01:18 +0000 UTCNot able to watch tonight and tend to lean more towards the WWE end for my entertainment, but I hope you all enjoy the card tonight!
Trevor D.
2023-06-25 23:00:26 +0000 UTC
