Huge hit to WWE morale with Vince McMahon's Raw changes
Added 2023-04-04 17:59:10 +0000 UTCThere was a huge hit to WWE morale on Monday after Vince McMahon made sweeping changes right after WWE held a talent meeting where Paul Levesque (Triple H) and Nick Khan told talent nothing would be changing, and minutes before Triple H did an on-screen promo saying much of the same.
After months of being assured that Vince McMahon was not involved in creative, several WWE talent were frustrated when the day of an announced WWE deal, a bunch of Vince McMahon-esque changes were made. McMahon came along right before the show started, right after WWE led meetings saying nothing would change, and quite literally changed much of it. He was also in Gorilla position all night after WWE had told numerous sources that Triple H was to be leading the charge in that position. There were changes made well into the show and new run sheets being passed along. McMahon also had his own office all weekend.
After saying he would not be "in the weeds" with creative in an interview earlier that day, Vince McMahon instead came in and made last minute, sweeping changes that frustrated several on his roster. There were several that said they didn't even think the changes were creatively poor, but the entire dishonesty of the situation considering that over a dozen of these people had previously been fired under Vince McMahon was a depressing blow.
In addition to the hints of his involvement we'd reported last week, there were big changes on short notice between the 6 PM EST talent meeting and the show itself that have largely been absent since Triple H took over creative. There were originally set to be two triple threat women's matches that would serve as a tourney for a Raw Women's Title shot. Instead, the women's segments were cut and a tag team title contender match was booked. Bayley was also scheduled to be ringside, which was cut. We're told several of the women on the roster grew frustrated by the adjustment. Many staff and talent have said that after a successful WrestleMania, and several months without Vince that displayed that they could be successful, smooth and happy, it was demoralizing to have that happen.
Several of the women on the roster were very disappointed, including a number of them that weren't even at the show. In all, this was the biggest hit to morale since Vince McMahon left his spot last year, and probably the lowest point of morale in totality since pre-WrestleMania in 2022 when it reached near all-time lows. Needless to say, last night was a huge shot.
Vince McMahon was in gorilla position throughout the show and made numerous changes, even while the show was on the air. Production and talent were getting instructions as the show went on the air.
Omos vs. Elias was also a late addition, and several things that were originally planned for the show didn't end up happening. We're told Omos was in catering, and wasn't planning on wrestling, then the late change happened, and there was a scramble to make sure he had gear to compete in. An old Vince McMahon rule was to always bring your gear, and always stay til the end of the show, largely because he was constantly changing things. There were also talent that was scrambling to do last minute shoots.
There were backstage elements, including Cody talking on a phone, and an lWo-Bad Bunny integration that were also changed, but we're not sure if those were Vince McMahon changes. The decision for Brock Lesnar to "team" with Cody Rhodes was solidified by Monday morning.
Numerous WWE talent were disappointed as they feel this weekend was a way for Vince McMahon to wedge himself back into the fold. Just earlier on Monday, WWE sources claimed that Triple H would be the person leading Gorilla position. However, Vince McMahon was present and many talent felt like they were sold a bill of goods. We spoke to one higher up that said Friday's Smackdown will be a big test and an important day for the company, noting that Vince McMahon was already in LA for the weekend when Raw after Mania happened. However, if he travels all the way to Portland for Smackdown, whether he's in Gorilla Position or not, it will be a huge negative sign to talent and staff. There are important people in the company who had no idea he was planning to make changes Monday, and don't know his plans for Friday.
Fightful heard from at least two talent, including one near the top of the card that said they'll likely request their releases if this is a trend moving forward, and another that said they'll just ride out their deal. There are multiple wrestlers who are already exploring what their options would be in the event Vince McMahon were to be steadily involved.
Comments
The product over the past 9 months has been exciting, unpredictable and has actually made me tune in week after week with genuine interest. If the comments are true about McMahon man-handling Raw, it proves that he isn't listening to what the fans want, something Triple H's regime have been doing very well, he simply wants to do what he wants to do. It will be interesting to see if some of the 'Triple H' guys suddenly disappear from TV again.
2023-04-05 21:29:42 +0000 UTCWholeheartedly agree.
Allyssa Golden
2023-04-05 16:41:26 +0000 UTCI don't want anyone to lose their job and all that, but I really wish the roster would just band together and have their own protest against Vince. The show can't go on if the roster refuses to continue with this nonsense. What's he going to do, fire everyone and have no show to put on air, especially in a live time slot? That would only hurt him and his business when you don't have a show to put on.
2023-04-05 15:47:32 +0000 UTCAt this point either he thinks making money makes the quality immune or is willing to destroy it in case he gets booted upon the new board because 'if Vince can't have it no one truly will'. The worse part is, even if lets say Friday it's Triple H's show and Vince stays away, what if he's back next week, takes a break, returns, etc to the point Vince makes mess, Triple H cleans up to get back on track, Vince makes new mess, rinse repeat. That would be worse than Vince every show because just when things can return to normal, they turn to chaos. Vince just being back with the ability to run things is a headache waiting to erupt.
Fan
2023-04-05 06:32:26 +0000 UTCshe didn't tweet that today. she tweeted it monday morning. still.
The Mayor Pete
2023-04-05 05:53:04 +0000 UTCI'm speechless, really. Something has to give. Vince has to get booted out again unless he wants to turn his ship into another Titanic.
CSDX
2023-04-05 05:19:58 +0000 UTCAny update about Bayley’s tweet today? https://twitter.com/itsbayleywwe/status/1642578341835440128?s=46&t=UV_Xvl9UCOe04ba7HKGp1Q
mike MOON
2023-04-04 22:38:43 +0000 UTCThe deal has been done but Endeavor isn't in control. Vince can do whatever he wants with the worst thing being what? Back into retirement? All these decades later Sr's apprehension about selling Jr the territory have come to fruition. He's shit on his son publicly, is trying to ruin the improvements his SIL has put in place, and I don't think it's a coincidence that Steph said no thanks again. The guy is an all around scumbag.
Jeffrey Vander Logt
2023-04-04 22:32:10 +0000 UTCEndevor need to future endeavour Vinny Mac
Andrew Hendrickson
2023-04-04 22:21:52 +0000 UTCHonestly, reading about Vince's return makes me sad. Hoping Smackdown is better and without him. If he's there, not sure how much I can watch. I want to support the performers, but it will be tough.
Mike Chitwood
2023-04-04 22:11:47 +0000 UTCForget Succession on HBO, this is real life!
Bostorican
2023-04-04 21:39:27 +0000 UTCDid Bayley walk?
2023-04-04 21:09:47 +0000 UTCI’m not so sure I would put that on HHH. Sure, some changes had been done, but I wonder if even he expected those mid-show changes.
Eric Justice
2023-04-04 20:55:56 +0000 UTCPapa H lying to us isn't what's best for business.
Scott George
2023-04-04 20:49:07 +0000 UTCEndeavor needs to step in
Pairy
2023-04-04 20:39:52 +0000 UTCTimes are rough.
2023-04-04 20:24:24 +0000 UTCthis is so disheartening
Geo
2023-04-04 18:58:00 +0000 UTC