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'could have uses some' uses -> used

Corwin Amber

Where is the discord link I can't find it?

Jamie Idle

Not that sure why but I kinda dislike the last few chapters. Ignoring the Jane chapters which I always dislike, I've been kinda put off ever since the Fae magic has been introduced. But this chapter right here was also a bit, no, very much creepy, I do not like the direction, I hope this is a planed and wanted reaction which you will resolve very soon. Either way, I think the people who actually like these kind of "mind control" or "prison" arc style chapters are a very small minority... Anyways I look forward to the next chapter!

Tungil

really tough chapter to write, i assume. erick's comeuppance for fucking around and finding out! probably will do better in two parts royalroad style. good stuff arcs, can' t wait for kirginatharp and erick to meet once again ;)

Robbs

Arcs: *Shuffles papers behind his screen* "Roll for plot armor." Erick: "... Nat 1."

Nathan M

How does slavery/mind rape make someone grow exactly?? That stuff causes trauma and PTSD which is the exact opposite of growth!! Eric has been largely humble and helpful to a fault in story. He could certainly have been a little more judicious in how he went about things early on in story but he has shown he has learned his lesson there with how he handled the grassland people. He is also already one of the more powerful people on the planet and has accomplished things that many others failed to do repeatedly in much less time than they've had. He doesn't have much more upward growth potential there before he starts approaching godlike power! The real advantage of his wizard powers will be of Paradox: the ability to step outside the Script and do things that normally aren't possible within its framework. More brute force power won't really do much for him.

tibbish

I will respond here how I responded in discord: I know that Erick's loss of agency is terrible, and the way he lost agency is horrifying, but... I can't really say much beyond that, because that would be spoilers, except that this is heard and seen, and I know it is bad. I didn't expect the depth of the reaction I am getting from some people, though, because I thought I highlighted the possibilities of what was going to happen if Erick fucked up long before now. It still sucks that this happened to him, but... yeah. I will add that one of the things that Wizards (and Shades, too) acquire in the course of their Wizardry, is becoming immune to outside sources of magical influence, and Erick's topmost goal at the current moment is regaining his lost agency.

Arcs

I will respond here how I responded in discord: I know that Erick's loss of agency is terrible, and the way he lost agency is horrifying, but... I can't really say much beyond that, because that would be spoilers, except that this is heard and seen, and I know it is bad. I didn't expect the depth of the reaction I am getting from some people, though, because I thought I highlighted the possibilities of what was going to happen if Erick fucked up long before now. It still sucks that this happened to him, but... yeah. I will add that one of the things that Wizards (and Shades, too) acquire in the course of their Wizardry, is becoming immune to outside sources of magical influence, and Erick's topmost goal at the current moment is regaining his lost agency.

Arcs

I will respond here how I responded in discord: I know that Erick's loss of agency is terrible, and the way he lost agency is horrifying, but... I can't really say much beyond that, because that would be spoilers, except that this is heard and seen, and I know it is bad. I didn't expect the depth of the reaction I am getting from some people, though, because I thought I highlighted the possibilities of what was going to happen if Erick fucked up long before now. It still sucks that this happened to him, but... yeah. I will add that one of the things that Wizards (and Shades, too) acquire in the course of their Wizardry, is becoming immune to outside sources of magical influence, and Erick's topmost goal at the current moment is regaining his lost agency.

Arcs

I will respond here how I responded in discord: I know that Erick's loss of agency is terrible, and the way he lost agency is horrifying, but... I can't really say much beyond that, because that would be spoilers, except that this is heard and seen, and I know it is bad. I didn't expect the depth of the reaction I am getting from some people, though, because I thought I highlighted the possibilities of what was going to happen if Erick fucked up long before now. It still sucks that this happened to him, but... yeah. I will add that one of the things that Wizards (and Shades, too) acquire in the course of their Wizardry, is becoming immune to outside sources of magical influence, and Erick's topmost goal at the current moment is regaining his lost agency.

Arcs

eh. A) Vague metaphorical imagery is harder to write well than folks expect. There's a whole lot of flowery handwavium and unnecessarily vague narrative. I started reading, went to skimming, went to skipping, lost interest. B) I also, for any number of reasons, don't care for the plot here, although I can understand the reasoning for the direction it took. Everyone has their own prefs, ofc, and some will eat this up. Just not my thing, rly.

fbt

Im still reading but if im reading this right then could there still be a living line of half angels in Ar'cosmos?

Pheonixarcher

No thanks. Think about the situation they are in. Erick is a former social worker so he understands the circumstances that produce villains. The dragons have been seriously wronged and he is going to help them, even if the ones in power need killing

Overclocked

I know nobody likes it when their MC loses their agency, but this is needed for Erick to grow. He was getting a little big headed and needed someone to humble him a bit and let him really know the consequences of blithely following the gods, the Wrought and others before having actual real power to back up his wishes. Hopefully we see Erick get some real power and by the time he leaves, he'll be a powerhouse like the Headmaster that people need to tread carefully around and not take advantage of so easily.

Overclocked

Erick Flatt: I'm in a place I don't want to be in, with people I don't want to be with. Also Erick: Can I call a GM(Gods) to get me out of here?

Pheonixarcher

I think mind control and slavery are hated so much in webnovel format because it can take weeks, months, even years for those threads to resolve. In a book the mind control or slavery can be resolved in how ever long it takes to finish reading.

Avery Aderyn

whoops! fixed. "This is a welcome gift."

Arcs

> Erick picked it up, but he did not put it on. He slipped it into a pocket, saying, “Thank you.” > he decided against ever saying ‘thank you’ while here in Ar’Cosmos Was this a belated realization? Should it read that he decided against ever saying it *again* while in Ar'Cosmos?

loimprevisto

If you're going by the typical fairy rules they apply when dealing the Fae on their own land, not in another country, and certainly not when they had just agreed to essentially speak plainly and without shenangians. Its also worth pointing out that Fairy Moon already broke her own word (by killing that Illusion Archmage) without consequence or punishment which is a huge no-no (as in they can die for it) typically for the Fae. Fairy Moon is also apparently able to speak, act, and understand things in a plain manner when she really wants to as well in story. She just throws a tantrum when asked to is all....likely because she knows she can't pull her BS.

tibbish

I feel the author's take on the Fae is fairly accurate, and, for a Fae, Fairy Moon's actions are actually rather tame. You have to keep in mind that Fae logic and law is entirely alien to humans, despite any seeming similarities. The old rules of dealing with Fae were simple but absolute, because they were humans only protections. Never say 'thank you', as this implies a debt which the Fae may call on in a fashion that for them is entirely fair yet we humans would perceive as vastly egregious. Similarly, never accept anything from a Fae, not even advice, unless it has been explicitly stated that it is given without obligation. Do not break guest rite, regardless of ones method of becoming a 'guest', or awareness thereof. This was Erick's mistake. And the Fae embody the saying 'ignorance is no excuse'. Compared to some things the Fae can and, according to lore, did do for such trespasses were nightmare inducing. Regardless of whether this particular use as part of the plot was ultimately necessary, it is in no way out of character in dealing with the Fae.

Jonathan Howard

I think you're grossly misreading the comments if you're thinking the main issue with Fairy Moon is that she is a vallain. Its not the issue at all. There are plenty of baddies that are interesting in the story that are great. Its that her actions don't really make much sense or fit with the whole fairy thing. She just comes off as a random psycho who apparently hasn't figured out how to deal with people even after living with them for a million years or something rather than a 'gray' power that should be respected and listened to. Which remember that was supposedly what she was inviting him to Ar'Cosmos for: to learn and such. Not get randomly kidnapped and then enslaved/mind raped for no good reason. Like even if the Headmaster or the Wrought were going to try and keep him away from Ar'Cosmos that stuff isn't justifiable since it'd make Eric their enemy almost no matter what short've brainwashing him so thoroughly that he'd do whatever they want. If that was their plan they could've snatched him at any time to do so since apparently Fairy Moon is so strong and has that necklace from Shades she is effectively unstoppable to probably nearly anything or anyone in the Geodes. On top of that her actions mean that almost any chance at peace for Ar'Cosmos with the Geodes is blown since Fairy Moon pulled this + broke her own treaty by killing that Illusion Archmage. It'd be tantamount to trying to deal with North Korea or something None of it makes any sense. very late edit: And growth?? How does enslavement/mind rape make someone grow exactly?? That sort've stuff just causes PTSD and trauma NOT growth. And a guy like Eric, who is usually humble and helpful to a fault, certainly isn't going to grow in any sensible manner from that scenario at all.

tibbish

I agree with most of the comments here, the whole kidnapping and mind fuckery was not a great introduction into Ar’Cosmos but it was going to get there eventually and this just speed things up... violently. Might as well make take advantage of the situation. ALSO from what we learned it is totally possible the wrought or the headmaster might have tried and stopped Erick from helping Ar’Cosmos. I don't like the Wrought, they are too ridged and they are probably swaying Erick down a certain path or way of thinking. I think this sort-of balances things out on both-sides-ishhh... will have to see how he spend his time in Ar’Cosmos. TL;DR i don't totally hate this. The explation on why this had to happen the way it did is there, sorta.

twentytoo

Kidnapping and mind control of the main character is really unpleasant and hard to read, and I personally can't handle much more of it. Hopefully this ends soon.

am

Great chapter. I think this is going to be the transition for Erick to fully come into his own power. Strength grows in adversity and now he is forced to grow and grow fast. Many people have been telling him that yes, he is powerful but he is by no means equal to those that are TRULY powerful. Poi estimated that his domain wasn't even Mag 9 or if it was it was one of the weakest. Erick needs to grow as a Wizard to become the Pioneer of Civilization that he is working to become. I don't trust Rozerta or the Wrought or any other of the established powerhouses to truly have his back when he needs it. I bet there will be a lot of mixed feelings about this chapter as webnovels where the mc gets mind controlled or soul fucked usually makes many readers upset or even leave. Some people seem to really hate Fairy Moon and her fae bullshit and I think that's great. Writing a villain that people really hate or want to see gets their comeuppance can really elevate a story. Sure we're angry now at Erick losing his freedom but imagine how awesome it will be when he becomes a kick-ass Wizard and TAKES his freedom back. Fairy Moon says she will LET Erick go when he proves himself but i think she underestimates him. I can't wait until he improves himself and is not given freedom but demands it. Great writing as always and I look forward to more content.

Nathan M

He can retaliate because after she soul raped and mind raped him, he can't really trust anything that is being said or done. Why would he(or we) trust anything that is being said or done by the people of Ar’Cosmos?

Torbjørn Nilsen

I skipped everything between slave and rape, and everything after that.

Bob

Yeah, without the rules being laid out clearly + some sort've neutral 3rd party enforcement mechanism for everyone if they're broken the whole fairy rules thing comes off as random and pointless. Random because without knowing the rules nothing makes any sense, its just "oh you broke a rule now I can do anything~~" and we're all like "uh what rule where??". Pointless because without a 3rd party neutral means of enforcement that applies evenly for all sides the most powerful person present can just go "cuz' I said so" and nothing else matters. The MC (and hence the reader) knowing the rules would set the scene and tension and the 3rd party neutral arbiter would prevent "might makes right" shenanigans and so give the rules some teeth which would raise the stakes (thus supplying the drama + action) for everyone involved.

tibbish

Yeah I really, really hate how this arc is shaping out. The fairy hospitality shit is obnoxious and makes no sense.

Ellija

The whole fae rules being broken, soul shackle, mind control or whatever it is just feels like adding fake tension where it’s not needed. They are literally on the same side and working towards the same goals as far as I can see. And I don’t see how Eric can even retaliate and not look petty. He can’t kill Fairy Moon; she is immortal and likely all powerful in Ar’Cosmos. Not helping the dragons out of spite is just ridiculous. Eric is better than that. Also, the dragons are honestly innocent for their actions on Veird in my eyes. They literally can’t help themselves when it comes to killing each other and anyone that is around their fights. The only ones he should blame are Kirginatharp and Melemizargo, although Melemizargo was completely off the rails when the curse was created. And it looks like the dragons treat even Wizards better than they would be treated on Veird, but that is yet to be seen if it’s true. Aside from the method of his arrival, everything else that Eric is going to gain in Ar’Cosmos will be positive. Finish the [Gate], become a full Wizard and learn everything related to it, maybe even some sweet new magics, who knows. Getting over the kidnaping is not that big of a pill to swallow in the light of that. This whole Worldly Path arc feels to me like it’s building Eric to become a villain. Yes, I know he is out there helping people, but you know what they say about roads built with good intentions. But seriously, he is doing whatever he thinks is best and everyone that wants to make sure that he will not make things worse is standing in the face of progress in his head and they just have to deal with it or he will deal with them. He is hateful, angry and paranoid so much that it seems like he is one step away from killing the people that he wants to help. And once the world learns about his Wizardry things will get even worse. They might even go after Jane, she already killed in Melemizargo’s name after all and her father is a Wizard. Not looking good at all for any of them. Anyway, this comment feels a bit ranty, but it’s not intended to be that way. I really love this book and aside from that whole mind control feeling pointless and a bit forced I love everything else. Although, I would like to see Eric fix his anger and paranoia issues, but I think things will get better once he starts learning Wizard stuff.

snakefist

Can we just slaughter everyone in Ar’Cosmos and move on the next arc please. Thank you.

Radius Morse

There are no rules*. *technically in story there are but they're never laid out only hinted at in vague manners that are open to interpretation in numerous ways for purposes of ~~plot~~. Fairy Moon is pretty much going to be doing whatever she** wants and its not going to make any real sense or be honestly believable or interesting because of that. **the author I still like the story but slapping in the whole "fairy rules" thing into the [Gate] arc is a mistake

tibbish

How was he at all bound by the rules of hospitality after he got kidnapped, that he could have violated them enough to let Fairy Moon impose her restrictions on him? Being in someone's house isn't itself enough to be considered a guest, a prisoner isn't the same thing.

Gardor

No. this is the correct wording there. "it will lessen as you follow the rules"

Arcs

“It will wear off with the wearing of obedience." Swearing?

Gardor


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