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EP 36: LORE, CANON AND IP (PART 1)

In this episode we discuss everything we hated about Alien Romulus as a segway into a much larger conversation. Who decides what lore is cannon? What does cannon even mean? and how does all of that effect viewers? These questions will all be answered in part 2.

TW: CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SA


special thanks to Slic for our show music.

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Never have even touched the Alien franchise and I still listened to all of this

neff rango

since the hatred twilight received when it was coming out was mostly based in misogyny people really wanted it to be 'woke' and pro feminist to bring it back and make it a really relevant series again and in doing that we ended up circling back to a very white feminist way of consuming shit where as long as its uplifting white women a media will be deemed moral and 'politically correct'... sorry this is such a ramble but i think about twilight all the time for this reason... wld love to hear ur opinions on this if it resonates w y'all since you always have some funny shit to say about stephenie meyer and mormonism

TODD

im sure theres plenty of other factors that triggered this but i rly feel like the rise of 'conservatism is cool' is tied to the sudden resurgence of twilight that came around 2020/beginning of covid when a lot of people latched onto it as some kind of anti cringe culture and 'connecting with your inner child' shit (especially for ppl who were 12-16yo white girls at the time it came out) and since twilight is so blatantly racist in so many ways a lot of people just shut off their critical thinking when it came to spotting and critiquing racism in media

TODD

Highly recommend watching impetigore if y'all have a shudder subscription

Eden Amos

Okay so did anyone else get the vibe that the pregnant girly (Kay) was having the baby with Bjorn? Or did they just have weird chemistry?

Allie

having a very anxious day and your podcast is making me feel better. thanks yall.

Jamila Shante

I binged the entire franchise in preparation for these episodes - no other franchise has so many ups and downs I swear - and now I feel vindicated for really enjoying Prometheus/Covenant. People putting them at the bottom of their list because “dum dum lady didn’t run sideways lol” like.. is there literally not so much else to be pondering over here?

Dylan

I actually liked Romulus quite a bit but I approached it as someone without much attachment or knowledge of the series so a lot of the nostalgia stuff just came across as sensible production design.

Bryce3dKeygen.midi

beksinski!

sofia

The thing yall said about showing as little of the “monster” as possible in horror really stuck with me. It would be super interesting to hear y’all’s opinions on movies like bird box, smile, even hereditary, etc. where the evil force is more nebulous and the films focus more on the human reaction to them.

Stewart H

I also loved the visuals and I saw it in Imax so it sounded very cool. But also the main girl ended up lying to him at the beginning because she just "couldn't tell him" about the new home being anti-cyborgs. He had to find out through someone who wasn't his friend. 🥴

Shelby

wait can we get more into insidious and why it’s facist? are we meaning the conjuring franchise?

Madison O

are either of you familiar with the director Tsai Ming-Liang? i think you would get lots out of his work

Nate B

Really awesome to hear your thoughts on alien romulas. I enjoyed the film for the scfi and some really cool shots but I agree the plot was not great and I disliked how they treated Andy character especially for him being a black actor. And what i thought was really strange is that for Andy to be seen as "intelligent and usefull" he has to have a another synth (white guy) brain to be put into him. Which might not be what the film intended to do but that's what it conveyed to me.

ChopperLBP

everything yall are saying about the reception of Prometheus mirrors why people are so hot/cold on anatomy of a fall downnn. audiences hate when answers aren’t clear and isolated to the point where it overshadows the whole purpose of the work. it’s sick!! thank u for this omg

aniack

To be fair, we are certified haters. We forfeit the privelege of being mad at people hating on us.

Kay

it’s just so weird to me how people can observe someone that closely for so long just to hate like please get a productive hobby omg

Luci☆fer

perfect timing for my commute to work, thank you 😭

Dom Eccles

Was just thinking about yall then this dropped...

Hannah Allen


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