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BC March Madness - Day 26

The people are screaming for Dick. It is our duty to give Dick to them. Dick, Philip K. moves on to the Final Four!

Up today—not Muppet's Wizard of Oz, but Oz and Muppets.

Okay, wait...Quentin Tarantino is in this movie????? Piggy plays the good AND bad witch? We might need to add this one, folks. To Oz, obviously. Muppets already a stacked lineup.

Anyway...

With WORLD OF OZ, we'd cover five films:
The Wizard of Oz (1939)
The Wiz (1978)
Return
 to Oz (1985)
Wicked (2024)
Wicked: For Good (2025) 

With Muppets, we'd cover eight theatrically-released films
The Muppet Movie (1979)
The Great Muppet Caper (1981)
The Muppets Take Manhattan (1984)
Muppet Christmas Carol (1992)
Muppet Treasure Island (1996)
Muppets from Space (1999)
The Muppets (2011)
Muppets Most Wanted (2014)

Who moves on to face Philip K. Dick in the final four?

Comments

well i got crucified, and I get it... but to be clear I listen to this pod despite the times griff drives me up the wall not BECAUSE of it. honestly the comms hes best on are the ones where god forbid hes gotta ask questions about stuff

JC9000

I’m dying for the Muppets to win the whole thing! I sat next to Patrick Cotnoir at the screening of The Muppet Movie at The Egyptian a few weeks ago. I think they should bring him on to talk some Muppets.

Nick Strauss

As much as I love Wizard of Oz and Wicked and want to hear Griffin talk about The Wiz the Muppets are just stacked great films

Adam Martin

Yes. For one, the best series are the ones where one of them has a personal relationship with the material. For two, the Muppets are great.

Max

A terrible thing to remember

Anthony Regina

1,000,000% yes

Anthony Regina

Kermit's Swamp Years is one of the few of Muppet things I haven't seen. Letters to Santa is a cute enough special. Paul Williams songs help it, especially in comparison to the Oz songs.

Tomas Marinara

I quite liked it, but I was a teenager more willing to put up with longer things at the time. It is, I think without question, about 30-60 minutes too long.

Donald W Pratt

Somehow missed this show when it came out, but saw it listed on Prime yesterday

jahr

I am also baffled at some of these comments, it is weird that people pay money to listen to someone they seem to dislike so much.

Winson Paine

JC9000, That is quite literally, what I'm paying to be here for, That "ignoramaus erf" was it? Brings me joy, you what else brings me joy? The mother fucking Muppets.

Harrison

Why are you on this patreon if you feel this way about one of the hosts?

Lee Morgan

I don’t care about Oz winning or losing. It’s their competition in this matchup that concerns me

Ditmarser

Everyone seems to forget that the muppet movies are far more than just Muppets but also the actors that play off them...ahem in no particular order: 1. Jeffery Tambor 2. Steve Martin 3. Michael Caine 4. Tim - mother fuckin- Curry 5. Charles Grumpy Grodin!!! And that's the tip of the iceberg. Now I am pulling for the 90's Scum Bum comics for the sheer variety but c'mon Muppets are just good fun and yes I wanna hear Griffin geek out as much as I wanna hear Ben geek out over the wet chains of Spawn or David discuss Dredd.

Chris Radicone

Both beautiful songs but Rainbow Connection is the Lance of Longinus and pierces my soul.

Chris Radicone

🤜💥🤛

Chris Radicone

Its definitely the weirdest sequel ever.

Chris Radicone

But you could have Indie Comic scum bums! Tell me watching Spawn with all the wet chains doesn't get you the least bit excited. We're talking Ben's porch picks for a solid 3- ish months with incredible variety and the creme de la creme 2012's Dredd!

Chris Radicone

" Spank me and turn me towards the TV I wanna watch Return to Oz" What is... things you'll never hear.

Chris Radicone

I was gonna vote Oz but now I am gonna vote for Muppets... even harder. ::clicks muppet voting bubble:: That felt good. Don't ever besmirch Watto

Chris Radicone

Very surprised the muppets are running away with this. Thought Oz had a shot to go all the way. We really want four months of muppet movies? 😱

Jason Perry

Lots of masochist blankies, I see

Colin

I'm pretty sure the forever-virgin spite vote is gonna push this one all the way

JC9000

James, is it just to spite everyone else? do you get off on hearing the whiniest ignoramus on erf talking over everyone to tell his life story in relation to puppets and how *integral* they are to his personality...blahblah... ?

JC9000

I’d vote Oz if they included Tin Man.

Donald W Pratt

Sincerely, yes

James Asmus

ah i thought I was voting for the HBO prison drama!

killbot_factory

Oz series is a great idea, they should really do it. Incredible spread of films. I now carry it to the buzzsaw and wave it a remorseless farewell.

Beef Steak Tomato

Please no!

Bodie Davies

Do you guys seriously want to listen to Griffin talk about Muppets for 3 MONTHS! Everyone else will go insane.

Patrick Moran

Worse than Kermit’s Swamp Years and A Muppets Christmas: Letters to Santa?

Agustin Macias

It’d be real cool if Muppets didn’t win the whole bracket

Ditmarser

Add Muppets wizard of oz to Oz series if they lose this!

DG

David will explode like Crazy Harry if they do Muppet Wizard of Oz to either series. Easily the worst Muppets project and I say this as a loyal Muppets guy.

Tomas Marinara

Come on now... This is nuts!

Sean Sakimae

Can’t wait to sacrifice either at the alter of dick

Conor Dabler

Muppets are my… most wanted.

LT

Three words... Bobo the Bear

Chris Radicone

....but Oz heads be fuckin' ?

Chris Radicone

Muppets all the way to the bank baby

gayforbones

That’s a lot of Herbie the Frog

Douglas “Scoop” Reinhardt

It's going to come down to MUPPET vs. 90s Indie Comics in the final round isn't it? I'm predicting a <10 vote margin.

Wyatt Gray

It's going to come down to MUPPET vs. 90s Indie Comics in the final round isn't it? I'm predicting a <10 vote margin.

Wyatt Gray

Miss Piggy would make an excellent Galinda.

Douglas Wykstra

Neither of these are my faves, but VOTING IS FUN!! XOXOXO

sheabobay

Damn, that actually is a good question. Both songs hold up as bangers.

Sj

no such thing

Isabelle Iverson

We had Adam Sandler and Highlander. Could of been a fun summer. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 another year another disappointment.

Good

THIS is the hardest!!

Janine

PLEASE add Muppet Oz to Oz. But maybe don’t tell David and have it be a surprise

Sam Blum

Big agree

Brett Tucker

I just want everyone to have to watch Return to Oz

Eric

Bad movies have produced some primo commentaries (the Dundees, the Clauses, Naqoyqatsi, etc)

glenn clothes

I mean, I would be disappointed if we land on Muppets, but I would save screaming "what the fuck" for, say, Trump dismantling USA, instead of about people liking Kermit. Like, we need civility somewhere in the world.

Johannes Wiberg

This was a terribly difficult choice.

J Kyle Wilsor

I'll say the same thing I did for every Muppets vote so far. Henson/Oz for main feed! Vote for Oz (the series, not the director)!

Steve Runyon

Miss Piggy and the Wicked press tour hurt me.

Snoogens

I can't say I'm bothered about either of these but of the two I would have picked Oz but... I guess Muppets then. Oh well.

Damimoon Sunbeam

I won't yuck your yum, but that might just be too many Muppets movies in a row for me...

Johannes Wiberg

Good

QT, the true sexual deviant muppet.

Matt Quarterman

Bring back Happy Madison

Jimi cuell

Who hurt you, friend?

Jamey Bouwmeester

UUUGGGHHHH

Masturov Desguys

The entire bracket feels like it’s only Griffin voting 😄

Spam Boi

I have The Wizard of Oz on my four faves but I'm ok with bring blown away by a bunch of muppets.

heather

Hope they both lose

Blake Anderson

Voting Oz (Wizard) because I want a Henson/Oz mini on main feed!

youngthugisthegreatestlivingrapper

Me after clicking muppets, nervous about the results: "my faith in blankies is redeemed." I mean I like Oz as much as the next guy .. but muppets!

sko buffs

I want Henson/Oz main series and World of Oz patreon

Nathan Cranor

Damn you virgins!

Charles

Don't really want either of these to be honest, but I want Muppets less

Olivia Haidar

Bummed to see Oz losing. That would be such a fun series!

Anthony Strand

remember, keep it henson. we NEED Griff to fully nerd out on Kermit and Fozzie, the two friends

Visa-Valtteri Pimiä

HEAT WAVE!!! Areeeebaaaa!!! This is my island in the sun! Oi, oi! 🎶

bustghoster

I knew this is when Muppets would overtake oz but I still must fight for the losing side here

Ashley Minor

Down with felt

Ian Joshua Postman

Please can we let muppets win and bring joy to us in this trying time

Non è un problema per noi

if i remember correctly, muppets wizard of oz was made during this brief period of time where jim henson productions was owned by this weird european media conglomerate and all the muppets are sexual deviants in it. gonzo keeps making jokes about his nipples. also quentin is there

Wade Hollomon

Muppets all the way!

Mr. M

Voted for Oz bc I'd rather have Henson/Oz on main feed!

Tereglith

it’s just too much muppets y’all

Cliff Williams

The Mike Flanagan/Brian Henson interview on the Commentary Podcast is fantastic. There's a lot of weird showbiz stuff to be mined there, including the Jim Henson company as a Succession like family business.

Alex Firer

I need another MM update video! We don’t get enough Chip Smith on the pod! Maybe keeping him on mic will stop him from his crimes off mic.

Emily Parker

How many kids does David have to have before you let the man REST! Let Griffins take the reins for a season.

Andrew Jansson

okay, this is a really tough one. i'm going with oz, but i've seldom felt so conflicted

elsie kate

Remember the weariness of Burton?

Abe Something

I wish I FELT differently about the Muppets. Wakka wakka!

Miles Lemaire

For Rizzo

Tom

I love muppets too much to listen to David and Ben be bored / annoyed for 3 months

Riley M

Voted for Muppets because fuck it, let the guys talk about kids stuff before they're 40.

Brian Blake

I've never really got Muppets. Its something I'm probably either too young for or missed that cycle. Going with oz

Jordan Coleman

Second to this!

Josh Darby

I would love both these series. But Muppets has to finally take this bracket!!

Josh Darby

booo, Oz has so much variety in it

Anthony Pierre Coco

C'mon. Vote for oz and get a Muppet movie for free? It's the better deal.

Brian Redford

Muppets makes more sense connected to a Henson/Oz series on main!

TheLibraryClark

please do the Oz silents they are so strange!

Caroline Kittredge Faustine

Finally putting an end to this Oz menace

Rory Dunn

I’m really struggling with the electoral analysis of how many 90s indie comics voters are probably also Muppets voters, the prognostication may be trickier than I thought

Rad Rodge

Muppets all the way!!

Nick Biedma

Muppets will win March Madness. Then they’ll do World of Oz in early 2026 and (throw in Muppets’ Wizard of Oz)

Chris Kw.

This is a brutally tough choice.

Curt Weiler

I agree Oz would be so much fun! But I don't know about "inevitable" you could make that case for every one of the 14 decade of dreams bracket directors. Just doing Lynch took half a year

Harrison

Muppets are somehow gonna continue to be added year to year until they get chosen... I already have made my peace with this fact

Brendan Radigan

and may we never have to hear of Wicked ever again. until the John M. Chu series (teehee)

dorium

Jimminy christmas

Rad Rodge

Only for the weak

Ryan Spearman

Don't think they're mutually exclusive, only 2 films overlap

Zack Stoudemayer

Screaming for Dick: A Decade of Dreams [🎶pizzicato version]

Rad Rodge

Muppets is too many for a patron series

Sean Collin Mako

It’s now time for the Muppets to just crush all the competitors

Anthony Regina

I have never recovered from watching Return to Oz as a child. So "it's time to play the music...."

Barry Wigham

If they end up doing Henson/Oz on the main feed (which they should), they can just do one episode about Caper & Manhattan and be done with it. It shouldn't disqualify Muppets from taking it all here. GO MUPPETS.

Mike Amato

The burning question: which series has the better Rainbow song?

Del Lorenson

*Not listed: The Wiz musical tribute sequences on Oscars Stage

JTA

🐸🐷🐻🥇

Manish Agarwal

It'd be fun to hear the reaction to the Tarantino cameo at least

Oliver Brindle

I am once again begging y'all to stop voting muppets so we get Henson/oz main feed!!!

Rachel

Muppets are going to take March Madness and I'm super cool with that

Evan

Wizard of Oz to keep Henson/Oz main feed hopes alive!

Kevin Gesme

The hardest one yet... 😭

ChewyWalrus

I do not.

Jason Feffer

Oz has a chance! Muppets can wait, Oz is right in the zeitgeist right now

Harrison Cordle

I think there is a world in previous march madnesses where i would've wanted both of these but right now, this is a real choice between my two least favorite options left on the bracket. Voting Muppets because I am already pretty Wicked out, and can only imagine I will be more so by the time For Good is coming out and we'd be covering those movies, apologies to all the other movies on that list that are good and would make good episodes.

Zak Goldberger

600 votes in two minutes is wild

Bonesaw Greene

You mean Frank of course?

Jack Harris

I need Oz for my Nipsey Russell fix. Teeeeny! Teeeeeny!

Andrew Wyslotsky

Muppets are awesome but also inevitable. Oz would be a fun and wild swing with so much context to talk about

Anthony Oleszkiewicz

Muppets! Muppets! Muppets!

Kyle Harlan

This reminds me there's a Muppets Wizard of Oz

Oliver Brindle

You should not add Muppets Wizard of Oz to anything. It's *very* bad.

Anthony Strand

This is a tough one.

Adam Macias-Celestina

Oz! Oz! Oz!

Jason Feffer


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