Star Trek: Generations
Added 2025-02-21 05:00:08 +0000 UTCWe’re beaming up once more as we kick off our commentary series covering the “Picard Treks”; That is to say all the Star Trek feature films staring Sir Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard, commanding officer of the Federation starship USS Enterprise, with the 1994 David Carson film Star Trek: Generations.
Topics include: New York Film Critic Circle dinner post-mortem, Vilanch, prestige TV discussion, is Ben a Worf guy? What’s Ben’s nexus and more!
Movie Begins at: 30:14
Comments
Looks like I hurt your feelings little guy. Sorry about that
Anthony B
2025-02-27 00:06:32 +0000 UTCLol relax bro
Ray
2025-02-26 23:59:26 +0000 UTCAlso, it was meant in jest. Relax.
Ray
2025-02-26 23:58:53 +0000 UTCIn my experience commentaries usually have to do with the thing that they're watching
Ray
2025-02-26 23:57:20 +0000 UTCOh no talking during my star trek commentary 😢
Anthony B
2025-02-26 23:51:52 +0000 UTCFeel like if you are frustrated that people are talking during a commentary track you should stop listening to commentary tracks! This is how every one of their commentary tracks go just because they talk over a movie you like doesn’t mean you should be an asshole to the hosts. Its the whole point of a commentary track
Anthony B
2025-02-26 23:51:07 +0000 UTCJust here to say I love David's love for Trek, Next Gen is my favorite show ever. Every other show I love is "the best show without Star Trek in a title".
Doug Robertson
2025-02-26 21:29:11 +0000 UTCGood episode I love David Griff and Ben’s dynamic, it reminds me of some other podcast hosts who also have a great time. “Star Trek the next conversation” is a great watch along recap show featuring awesome jingles , great insight and is super concise…5 stars Matt n Andy!
steven dhanis
2025-02-26 17:19:29 +0000 UTCYou missed the tragic backstories for all the characters then which might have been cool if they were shown earlier so I could give a shit about them in the first place. The wandering eyeball hobo who wandered in from the cutting room floor of Game of Thrones somehow managed to get less interesting in the course of things. Dune Prophecy makes Rings of Power look like Cars 1.
Winson Paine
2025-02-26 13:24:36 +0000 UTCyup, its super awesome when griff feels the need to tell a story from his fancy youth. mfer is on one show and can't stop huffing his own farts
JC9000
2025-02-26 13:04:02 +0000 UTCHe's a special boy it only matters if it matters to him or sparks a story relating to him
JC9000
2025-02-26 13:01:04 +0000 UTClmao, it's honestly what I picture in my head as "Mark Twain" whenever that particular situation presents itself to my brain.
JC9000
2025-02-26 12:58:46 +0000 UTCThey really turned every characters dial to maximum bland. Couldn't get past episode 4. It would be one thing if it was bad in a funny way but it's not even amusing most of the time (dune p. Not penguin)
Josh Burcham
2025-02-26 12:08:31 +0000 UTCGeneralizing here, but I think Star Wars die hards have shown themselves to be largely not chill and not progressively minded, to say the least. So it doesn’t surprise me they hate trek. I don’t think trek fans dislike Star Wars in the same way though. They either like it too, just not as much as trek or they don’t think about it at all. But I don’t feel like trek fans hate Star Wars. For movies about the little guy standing up to evil space fascists, it’s weird how many Star Wars fans don’t seem to agree with its politics. Star Trek fans however, are almost uniformly aligned with the political ethos of the franchise. It’s weird.
Mike Cook
2025-02-25 03:44:34 +0000 UTCHOT TAKE: Star Trek shouldn’t change its depiction of technology to keep up with what we have today. That assumes today’s technology is evolving towards a utopic future. It clearly isn’t. Maybe in Star Trek they purposely stopped using certain technologies that were proven harmful to humanity. 🖖
Mike Cook
2025-02-25 03:33:41 +0000 UTCData even said as much in a Season 2 episode. "One is my name, the other is not."
Ben Cook-Feltz
2025-02-24 18:29:48 +0000 UTCI had the same response and I was mad that I did
CJ Foss
2025-02-24 04:19:47 +0000 UTCAs a big red dwarf fan I want to know more about Griffins opinions on the show. Fav season or episode? Or joke?
Ross
2025-02-24 01:32:33 +0000 UTCI love my best friends Data and Worf
Ashley Schoenfeld
2025-02-24 01:09:20 +0000 UTCHere’s the thing about Star Trek v. Star Wars…why is it even a thing? Other than being scifi, they’re two wildly different properties. And there’s also no reason to choose between them. I get that in 1977 your average kid only had a quarter a week to spend on comic books and had to choose between DC and Marvel…but, by and large, Trek and Wars were never really competing in that way, nor was there ever a reason to miss out one in favor of the other. But to this day, 90% of Star Wars diehards will instantly tell you, unprompted, pridefully, and apropos of nothing, that they hate Star Trek because they’re “Really just more of a Star Wars guy”, as if that means anything and they were somehow forced to choose. It’s like saying, “Ugh, I HATE Harry Potter, I’m really just more of a Conan the Barbarian guy”.
CT
2025-02-23 20:10:45 +0000 UTCGriffin mixed up Mufasa and Scar! Get him!
Leonard Witte
2025-02-23 16:55:09 +0000 UTCIt bugs me in the movie that Troi and Worf were dating at the end of the series and it is never addressed.
Bill Fitzmaurice
2025-02-23 08:43:25 +0000 UTCWe get a glimpse into Griffins inner child on a regular basis, but it’s not often we see Davids inner child to this degree, very satisfying and entertaining
Jon Holt
2025-02-23 07:52:18 +0000 UTCBut then continually said “Datta” instead of “Daytah”
CT
2025-02-23 06:08:36 +0000 UTCI mean, it’s just rude. That’s not how his name is pronounced, nor is it hard to get it right.
CT
2025-02-23 04:19:17 +0000 UTCIt’s ok if they have a valid point….
CT
2025-02-23 03:48:18 +0000 UTCI mean, listen to the episode…Griffin goes on and on and on and on and on about how much he hates this show he has never seen.
CT
2025-02-23 03:45:47 +0000 UTCThat's not Rosalind Chao that David calls out in the Sickbay scene. That is Nurse Ogawa played by Patti Yasutake. Sadly it seems she passed away last year.
Erich Geiger
2025-02-23 03:37:39 +0000 UTCRead that as "fixes podcast protector".
Bairbre
2025-02-23 02:06:34 +0000 UTCHuge burn
Trevor Talley
2025-02-23 02:01:47 +0000 UTCCT that's exactly what I mean. David did watch it, but they have been pushing this bias against "legacy" TV that grates. I love the boys, they're smart and I listen to every episode. But there's a difference between their analysis of things they engage with and what they dismiss out of hand as an entire example of an art form. It's just not interesting at best and makes me very frustrated more often than not
Trevor Talley
2025-02-23 01:59:57 +0000 UTCHe’s such a precise, insistent pedant about most things, I don’t know why he can’t get this right. It’s not even a gif/jif kinda thing…it’s the man’s name, and it isn’t up for debate how it’s pronounced.
CT
2025-02-23 01:46:27 +0000 UTCI don’t disagree with your opinion, but my opinion is it’s fun and enjoyable. We’re both right.
Crash Calhoun
2025-02-23 01:40:19 +0000 UTCI had to turn down the volume a couple of times because they weren't paying attention and the movie was getting good.
Ray
2025-02-23 01:39:45 +0000 UTCExcept they didn’t even watch it, but instead decided before hand that it was the “type” of thing they were sick of and wrote it off
CT
2025-02-23 01:39:05 +0000 UTCAlso a good 20 minutes up top about The Penguin, a show only one of them has see any of, but that they both agree they hate in general principle(?!)
CT
2025-02-23 01:35:43 +0000 UTCNo…it’s not. And….no, it’s not. It’s some of the most desperate, derivative crap ever made. Cumberbatch as Khan?? Are you kidding? And was there really story about him hiding a bunch of his followers inside torpedos, or was I (hopefully) hallucinating that??
CT
2025-02-23 01:21:34 +0000 UTCI must be fully trek pilled because to me that man IS Mark Twain. FLAWLESS PERFORMANCE 🤣
Mike Cook
2025-02-22 21:57:40 +0000 UTCI love Star Trek and specifically TNG. This rocked balls! Can’t wait to hear what they think of first contact because it’s awesome and can’t wait to hear what they think of insurrection and nemesis because they suck. Fun either way!
Mike Cook
2025-02-22 21:55:29 +0000 UTCI don’t care about Kirk v. Picard…or Trek v. Wars…but for some reason, I always get irked when people mispronounce Data’s name.
CT
2025-02-22 21:15:41 +0000 UTC"Is this the earliest we've seen Guinan in the timeline?" *adjusts glasses, fixes pocket protector* No, she shows up on Earth in the late 19th century in the end of season 5 two-parter Time's Arrow. Which also features the worst Mark Twain impression ever put to film!
Begemott
2025-02-22 16:25:13 +0000 UTCEvery time Griffin says "Datta" it hurts my soul. I didn't realize what a tremendous nerd I am until this moment.
Randy Johnson
2025-02-22 15:22:32 +0000 UTC“Let me do this! You shush!” A+ David energy 🤣
Manish Agarwal
2025-02-22 12:02:37 +0000 UTC“Engage.” [Presses play button]
John Thomas Glenn Lowery
2025-02-22 10:41:05 +0000 UTCPsssh I’m sorry, I wanted to be positive and I let Rise of Skywalker back into my mind and I lost decorum, I want to refocus on Bruce Greenwood’s sideburns, that was good stuff
Rad Rodge
2025-02-22 06:54:06 +0000 UTC(Which I guess is often the JJ Abrams story in movies, a scintillating casting director and great curator of performances who just has certain things he wants to write that I wouldn’t have encouraged if you had let me put in a word)
Rad Rodge
2025-02-22 06:49:58 +0000 UTCI mean, Bruce Greenwood is hitting 5 treys in limited minutes, that’s what I take with me about the movie, really all the acting is good to great even though I rarely agree with the purpose it’s being put to but Greenwood is my relationship to the movie
Rad Rodge
2025-02-22 06:41:22 +0000 UTC90% sure the picture of Picard shows to Ben of the "Picard with hair" test was actually from a later season when they did a flashback.
Boogie
2025-02-22 04:49:14 +0000 UTCThis is why I support Blank Check. They’re not afraid to stand up and speak out in the face of Gen Z Honk Shoe erasure!
Chris Hubbard
2025-02-22 04:00:57 +0000 UTCNot a burger, but I fed Michael Dorn three days in a row when he was in town for a convention. Wonderful tipper and polite as hell.
Bonesaw Greene
2025-02-22 03:56:29 +0000 UTCI feel like so much of the Blank Check Bob Pat journey has played out exclusively on Special Features, it’s such an important thread by now
Rad Rodge
2025-02-22 03:31:59 +0000 UTCI didn’t really see it coming but I welcome it
Rad Rodge
2025-02-22 03:30:37 +0000 UTCJenette Goldstein snuck right past them huh
Podcast Enjoyer
2025-02-22 03:07:06 +0000 UTCYeah. I didn't realize how much I needed this series, and how grateful I am to listen to it.
Aaron Watson
2025-02-22 01:57:39 +0000 UTCI was 12 when TNG started. Through Junior High, High School, and into college I never missed an episode. I was that person. Thanks for getting back to these.
Aaron Watson
2025-02-22 01:54:30 +0000 UTC11:12 - David Simms, the funniest man in podcasting
Zwoozy
2025-02-22 00:15:54 +0000 UTCCannot even wait for the NEMESIS jump scare
Nathan Costello
2025-02-21 23:47:14 +0000 UTCEarly on but loving this so far. 🙂 And please.....MORE Laszlo Toth jokes!
Geoff Gershon
2025-02-21 23:39:56 +0000 UTCStar Trek Into Darkness is a good and fun movie. You’re allowed to like it folks. It’s ok to do so.
Crash Calhoun
2025-02-21 23:30:25 +0000 UTCI forgot that I was informed enough to know this
Rad Rodge
2025-02-21 22:34:12 +0000 UTCI regret to admit that I believe you are correct
Rad Rodge
2025-02-21 22:33:54 +0000 UTCGriffin is pronouncing Data just like Doctor Pulaski
Daniel Chilvers #BringBackTheKrynoid
2025-02-21 22:00:40 +0000 UTCDune Prophecy is a dripping watery shit tho
Winson Paine
2025-02-21 21:38:14 +0000 UTCI LOVED THE PENGUIN SO MUCH I CARE DEEPLY WHY THE PENGUIN IS SAAAAAD
Winson Paine
2025-02-21 21:37:52 +0000 UTCI love Star Trek. I am excited for these!
Hygge State
2025-02-21 19:47:29 +0000 UTCThey're absolutely watching the movie for this one and I am here for it.
Andrew Rogers
2025-02-21 19:31:00 +0000 UTCI love that Griffin used the term Trekker, rather than Trekkie.
Billnetherlands
2025-02-21 19:14:03 +0000 UTCI just rewatched all the Trek movies. It was wonderful. Generations was the first Trek movie I ever saw in theaters, special one for me. When Kirk asks Picard at the end, as he's slipping away, "Did we do it? Did we make a difference?" Well, I'm tearing up just typing it out right now. There is power in the vague altruism of "making a difference" that Shatner conveys in a uniquely powerful way.
Infinite Terror
2025-02-21 18:58:01 +0000 UTCIt seemed like it was a long haul project to keep Patrick Stewart interested in Star Trek, he was going to quit the show a bunch of times and in Best of Both Worlds they are even laying the groundwork for him to leave in case they cannot come to terms with Stewart on his contract. So he's even coming into these movies not feeling Picard or Star Trek is something worth doing anymore.
Neal Fersko
2025-02-21 18:09:56 +0000 UTCseated for the RBatz fangirling
Chas
2025-02-21 17:53:49 +0000 UTCIt’s ok to hear people have a negative opinion of something you like. I like The Penguin too but the boys are just talkin’, it’s fine
Ginger’s Boyfriend Matt
2025-02-21 17:36:44 +0000 UTCLong shot but I wonder if David ever managed to get a copy of Fade In by Michael Piller who was a lead writer on TNG and also the film Insurrection. It’s not really a tell-all dirty secrets book but it does touch on one of the issues that came up during these TNG movies is that Sir Patrick Stewart always wanted to be an action movie star. Once you know that the way Picard’s character shifted over the seasons as well as a lot of the sillier stuff in the movies shifts into focus. It’s hard to fault the guy for pursuing a dream outside of a kind of dignified erudite typecasting but he might have been somewhat responsible for the greater TNG sphere getting sillier as a way to help fulfill his James Bond fantasies.
BensDecoy
2025-02-21 17:36:07 +0000 UTCThis is a blast. Gonna need you to change your release model to daily for just this series please
Ginger’s Boyfriend Matt
2025-02-21 17:34:40 +0000 UTCYou may want to sit down for this, Mark Wahlberg also owns a car dealership in Columbus, OH : https://www.markwahlbergchevy.com
Matthew Park
2025-02-21 16:58:26 +0000 UTCYay! Can’t wait! Literally relistened to the motion picture commentary last night. Does this mean Griff has finally watched TNG? I guess I’ll find out!
Mike Cook
2025-02-21 16:14:29 +0000 UTCBut David “the penguin” is dark and dare I say TWISTED…. Super bold new take right?
steven dhanis
2025-02-21 15:14:29 +0000 UTCLet's fucking go girls
Sloane
2025-02-21 14:34:15 +0000 UTCHaven’t we seen Guinan at an earlier point in the timeline, in the episode with Mark Twain where they travel to old times San Francisco? God I can’t believe I’m writing this
Bob Al-Greene
2025-02-21 13:53:08 +0000 UTCMovie begins at 31 mins, don’t even need to listen to know it’s a good episode
David Baxandall
2025-02-21 11:57:21 +0000 UTCre: star trek music, don't sleep on Vic Fontaine (James Darren) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0X-4_ySb5U
JC9000
2025-02-21 10:00:05 +0000 UTCPatrick Stewart is doing a master class of cry acting and they're talking about Mark Wahlberg. What is life
Ray
2025-02-21 09:15:12 +0000 UTC🖖🏾
Manish Agarwal
2025-02-21 07:43:52 +0000 UTCPatrick Stewart's best role was as the villain in Castlevania Lords of Shadow
Spencer Pommier
2025-02-21 06:43:54 +0000 UTCAfter episode 1 it’s downhill for the penguin. I only kept watching it because Colin Farrell was so damn good! It’s crazy. Matt Reeves batman was so boring OMG! the first 10 mins was pretty amazing though. I just don’t understand why they didn’t just make a movie 2 years ago.
Good
2025-02-21 06:23:04 +0000 UTCMake it so
Andrew Rogers
2025-02-21 06:02:27 +0000 UTCGriff looks pretty good bald not gonna lie. Patrick Stewart’s body is also helping but still 😂😂
Good
2025-02-21 06:01:16 +0000 UTCPenguin rocks. I would ask that the 3 friends maybe recognize that they don't like this kind of tv. Some of us do.
Trevor Talley
2025-02-21 05:50:49 +0000 UTCAnyone else not seeing it in their podcast app? I’m using overcast fwiw.
Mike Brogan
2025-02-21 05:28:58 +0000 UTCWHAT ok well I'm jazzed. nice one! the end of the run is gonna be a tad rough. Also, having done all the Moore and Pierce Bonds... TDalts is only 2 movies and would make it all one continuous series..!! ...just saying!! edit: kudos to dave for trying to keep griff reigned in, how hard can it be to talk about a movie you haven't seen without looking up and reading out shit off your phone simultaneously? Ben needs a "stfu everyone" buzzer to hit because hes paying the most attention
JC9000
2025-02-21 05:28:32 +0000 UTCHell yeah, call me Jodie Foster cause what I am is OK to go
Rad Rodge
2025-02-21 05:17:58 +0000 UTCwhat a delightful way to finish this stupid week
Jordan B. Anderson
2025-02-21 05:12:09 +0000 UTC"David Carson film". A phrase you never hear literally anywhere.
Mark Kalzer
2025-02-21 05:07:22 +0000 UTCExcellent.
Christopher Teuma
2025-02-21 05:04:18 +0000 UTCA full half hour before the movie starts 😍
ian
2025-02-21 05:03:21 +0000 UTC
