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MARCH MADNESS 2023 - Day 30

Jelly has been avenged…OCEAN’S MOVES ON TO THE FINAL!

Today, we determine who Danny Ocean and crew will face for the win.

It’s Keanu Rotoscope Face vs. Ghostface.

It’s PHILIP K. DICK vs. SCREAM.


With PHILIP K. DICK, we’d narrow the field and cover 6 films:

We would not be covering MINORITY REPORT and TOTAL RECALL (1987) because we’ve already covered those on the main feed, and we’d be skipping the TOTAL RECALL remake and some other stinkers because, per David - “ugh, those might kill us”

With SCREAM, we’d cover the 6 franchise installments:

So - are we going with science fiction? Or scary slashers?

Comments

how did we let this happen

chelsd

This is wildly lame.

Tyler Duggan

pretty silly

Sean Mackin

not like this

Sean Mackin

Be serious…y’all let SCREAM lose?!?!

Ian Smart

Kids go wild for THE ADJUSTMENT BUREAU

Olivia Haidar

This is disappointing… Blade Runner x2 isn’t worth killer 6x Screams

RJ Burchatz

all this pain just so Oceans can beat PKD later

Rudy A Martinez

No one. Everyone has the same taste as you. This must all be bots.

Johannes Wiberg

Yawn. If it ain’t scream and it ain’t mortal kombat who cares

Seth Adams

I wanted Scream more, but either choice is a great one. I've weirdly wanted to watch The Adjustment Bureau for years, so this might be my chance. Though I'm sure Oceans is coming out on top

Chad Hotelling

this bracket is absolutely bonkers, PHILIP K DICK???? hilarious end result here, convinced it’s all a set up just to get Ocean’s to win extremely easily

Patrick Orr

I don't want to risk finding out A Scanner Darkly isn't as good as I remember it being, I was pretty mid on Blade Runner 2049 and would love to spend a few months intermittently trying to explain why Scream 2 is the best Scream. Long story short: Ghostface gets the vote.

Jozef Raczka

I would bet money that the majority of the people who have been voting for Scream voted for Hellraiser.

Matthew Goderre

Scream good yall playin

Carolina Avery

Thank goodness. Scream SUUUUUUUCKS!

Michael Kolodziej

For those bemoaning the lack of horror coverage, I point to the fact that y’all voted out Hellraiser in favor of effin Jelly. Hellraiser, which even with it’s huge slumps, is 1000x more interesting than Scream. And for some reason you went went Jelly.

CT

Come on people, this is the only way we’re gonna get Wes covered!!!

Kai Beattie

How silly does it get?

Chris from Jacksonville

For the Scream heads out there, now seems to be a good time to shoutout former Blank Check guests' podcast With Gourley And Rust (Matt Gourley & Paul Rust of the Escape From LA episode). They covered all the Scream movies a while back. It's not Blank Check, but it's got similar vibes and is in some ways just as good. I'm pretty sure I discovered it here in the Patreon comments or on Blankies Reddit. Thought I'd pay it forward.

Tyler Dietz

This is insane, Scream should be winning in a landslide

Julian Gray

This is BS

Zachary Marriott

Well, guess I'll have to remove the Scream movies from my watch list and add in....The Adjustment Bureau 🫤

Nickelback McGruber

Why are y’all doing this to Scream?!

Anthony Fortelny

…scream is 5/6 good to great films. Dick is 2 great and the rest are trash, come on folks.

RJ Burchatz

They're definitely never doing Craven.

Jonathon Pernisek

C'mon, all those Screams have stuff to talk about!

PolterZeitgeist

There's never a GOOD time to say you don't really care for Blade Runner, but seeing it stop all over a series I rewatch every two years or so... I respect Blade Runner more than I actually like it. Same goes for the rest of the PKD movies. Scream 5-eva.

Joel DeJong

Don't tell me it's okay. It's not okay. It's heartbreaking

Harry Kolmer

I'm going to just keep voting for the thing that loses until morale improves around here.

Chris Dobson

Somewhere a Phillip K Dick fan has dressed up as Ghostface and started murdering Scream fans to secure the PKD win. RIGGED.

Rudy A Martinez

This truly is March madness

Eli Green

Voting against slapstick and Maggie Cheung and now voting against slashers and a slew of 90s hotties: who *are* we? Is this what we want to be? Vote for Parker Posey, vote for the fashion, vote for is Jamie Kennedy hot in scream debates, vote! for! scream!

Cynthia

PKD opens up a new kind of franchise curation to the podcast and that’s why I’m ALL IN BABY!

kennedy

P.K. Dick: I wanna rewatch some absolute bangers and also some total weirdos with the boys

J M D

I love Craven but I truly never see him being covered on main

Rory Dunn

Carpenter also won MM. From what I heard, they basically said they weren’t going to do Cronenberg unless he won a March Madness (that’s why I really wanted him to win). That would be 22 films which is even less than Craven. I just don’t see them dedicating half a year to a horror director with the kind of filmography that Craven has.

Cody Johnson

Watching them as he and others talk over them in search of constant content to not actually be quiet and watch the movies shouldn’t be his first time watching the movies.

Kevin Love Hewitt

Scream currently over 1500 votes short of the numbers it had against Police Story.

Donald W Pratt

If you combined some early movies into a single episode (a la Demme) and skipped everything that wasn’t given a theatrical release, you could easily do it in less than 20 episodes! It would be no longer than the Carpenter series

Michael Rogerson

Voting Scream because these commentaries are for sure the only way they WILL cover Craven.

Evelyn Chavanne

That’s probably never going to happen because his filmography is too big.

Cody Johnson

His filmography is so varied and has a perfect mix of certified super classics like The Hills Have Eyes/Nightmare on Elm St, and underdiscussed gems like Red Eye/The People Under the Stairs. Even the Scream movies wouldn’t get old because he alternated them with a bunch of really interesting projects (including his weird attempt at making a prestige-y oscar movie with Meryl!)

Michael Rogerson

That's fair

Kaitlin

voting against scream bc they need to just do Wes Craven on the main feed - and if they do the commentaries, they’ll never cover him properly

Michael Rogerson

They’ll absolutely do Dennis

Rob myler

Choose Dick so they never do Scott and Villeneuve on the main feed

William Evans

Genuinely floored by these results. I thought Scream was gonna obligate Dick

Jeff Burnett

Scream was a great movie. Then they made 5 sequels that were pretty much the same thing over and over. Vote Dick!

Chris from Jacksonville

Y’all really messing this up? Choose scream!!!

Justin Bertolero

We’re so close to a Scream miniseries. Please friends, don’t mess this up!

Seth Lambert

Maybe? I guess we won’t find out. See ya Scream.

James Manning

Would have been happy with Scream or Elmore Leonard or Jelly. Would also be happy if Ocean's wins. But I truly can't wait to hear David geek out over Blade Runner.

Kevin Rowley

what a relief to not have to hear about any scream movies past the 1st one

Lundon Boyd

This is bananas. SCREAM seems like the obvious choice. But even if it loses, my hunch is they eventually do the series anyways.

George Wishart

I love scream but feel like PK Dick would give so much more variety

J S

It bums me out how much horror always gets destroyed in these.

Danie Jensen

Darn... The tangents that Screams would generate every movie would be great.

Evelyn Chavanne

Does this include the 1999 Andrew Fleming picture?

fartinscorcese

Screaming for some Dick

fartinscorcese

Pls

Josh Landreth

Scream

Josh Landreth

I'm riding Dick all the way to victory!

HappyCroc

No, but I watched it once and I do need someone to explain why.

HappyCroc

I would love a Ridley series, one of the most interesting careers with all kinds of genres and some all time great movies. I've been anti-Dick and anti-Leonard all month for these reasons. But I just don't want a Scream series at all.

HappyCroc

I'm not precious about either, and think Scream would make for a better commentary series, but let's be honest, whoever wins this is getting steamrolled by the Oceans juggernaut.

Zach Altschuler

All of this to say, one of these guys has a way better chance at being on the main feed in the near future than Craven ever does - lets give the slasher franchise that aims to lampoon and recreate slasher tropes a chance to shine in goofy commentary form!

Selmon Rafey

Keanuscope

Sloane

of all of these, I think Denis is particularly ripe for a series - one of the blank checkiest directors in the business right now (getting entrusted with 2, maybe 3 movies in the Dune franchise? that's a big ol check). One of the few Nolan-y filmmakers around who makes detailed, large scale films that also are critically if not commercially successful. Would be an easy choice IMO, especially after Dune Part 2 comes out. Also, if they do a Blade Runner 2049 episode, I could see them doing a Patreon ep on Blade Runner so that it isn't left hanging Now, Ridley has a deep filmography, but also is one of the most blank check directors ever and could easily be done Spielberg style, pre and post win for Gladiator which reignites the blank check he got for making Alien as his second movie (followed by Blade Runner cementing his influence). Linklater would be a fascinating series: the Before Trilogy and especially Boyhood make for fascinating check cashing exercises (yeah, we're gonna trust you to cash a little check over the course of 12 years and hope this works out well? insane!)

Selmon Rafey

Y'all, they'll do Scream eventually. It's ok.

Mike Ostrov

WHAt

Nic B

Huh, well PKD better beat Oceans.

CT13

Get 👏 that 👏 D

Chuck Nipper

We’re not getting these episodes on the main feed in anyone’s lifetime

Filip Boratyn

All right you guys convinced me to chance my vote

expeditioner

I'm so mad right now. I thought Scream would take this whole thing 🥺

Steve Geiler

So bummed about losing Police Story, but I was really worried Scream was going to take this whole thing so I will accept my Ocean’s v Dick finale and be glad.

Tobey

I don't think people understand that it's truly impossible to make Next interesting. You're voting for the worst commentary they could do (and not their fault! It's just that boring!)

Rory Dunn

So are your Mom's christmas cookies.

Daniel McLane

Following a slasher movie is a bit different from Star Trek

Jason Feffer

Everything you’re saying here is 100% correct. People here really aren’t thinking this through.

Jason Feffer

Don't gimme wrong, Blade Runners rule and are all-timer movies, but I don't think they would make for great commentary episodes the way the Scream movies would! Vote for the discussion to be had, not just your favorite film! SCREAM!

Selmon Rafey

voting Scream if only because I don't want this pod's first conversations about Blade Runner, Blade Runner 2049, and Scanner Darkly to be in the freewheeling commentary format - those would be such good deep dive conversations during potential main feed episodes! Scream would probably only be covered in commentary form as i don't see them taking on a Wes Craven series, and it has had such an interesting up and down history over 20 years (whereas besides their original authorship, the "Dick series" has very little discussion between the pieces). Vote Scream!

Selmon Rafey

Oh, thank you! We have a few unreleased episodes but the energy went out of it when Aaron selfishly had twins... at least for a bit!

Gerry Canavan

Scream franchise is overrated

Colin

And discussion of then-hot/now-obscure actors careers

Bob Lemmon

be honest with yourselves y’all only wanna hear a couple of the Dick picks. at least with Scream there’s continuity

Austin McDougle

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH (scream)

Austin McDougle

I have a theory that people are mostly voting Dick knowing it has no chance against Oceans, which is a real bummer.

Jett Wallace

Let me guess, you’re not a college basketball fan.

Matthew Chmiel

Hi Gerry, Grad School Vonnegut/Achebe is very special to me and was a deep comfort during quarantine. Thank you for making it. I will be listening if you and Aaron ever podcast again someday. Takes the sting out of my beloved Scream seemingly going down (so it goes) to see you stump for PKD.

Sean Maloney

I was really hoping scream would pull ahead.

Dan H.

Hell yeah, next year should be March Politeness

DF

I can't tell you how uninterested I am in the Philip K Dick stuff. But I'm also a believer in democracy.

Ryan Jenkins

Ghostface nation it's time to mobilize

Ally

Finally it looks like scream is done

Jon Tiberious

Dick is all I want at this point. People are saying how cool it would be to see Griffin discover the Scream movies, but I actually find the commentaries to which he comes with opinions much more enjoyable. Or commentaries about nonsense movies that are just an excuse for a hangout. Don't count on anyone following the plot of a first watch too closely, or not missing important plot points because of lunch orders (not a complaint!). Dick gives us a cool new Patreon series format and a nice mix of great, weird and dogshit

Filip Boratyn

Noooooo Scream is so much better!

Michael Hollenbeck

OK, you win - I changed my vote! Get a thousand more to switch and we'll be good to go. It'd help me ignore Blade Runner for another few decades.

Lance

BOOOO (both as in i am upset about how this vote is going and as in boo ghosts are scary like ghostface and i would like them to discuss him!)

Eleanor Mohrmann

The missing android head of PKD must be avenged

Bill Sweet

With Dick, you get Nic Cage in Next, it's no contest

Noah Mittman

PKD! PKD!

Gerry Canavan

Thank god. Scream winning it all would be zzzzzzzzzz

Mikey

It’s March Madness. Could you imagine fans being like “whoever wins, it’s fine.”? This was set up to have people root for their picks. Calm down and get in the spirit.

JFox

You love to see it! The real question is how do I decide between Dick and Ocean..

Jackson Clark

Guys we can’t make griffin wait another year to watch Scream

Jesse Isaak

Nooooo I was praying for a scream sweep

Colleen Gaw

Whaaaaat??? How is this even happening?

JFox

Does anyone really need to watch The Adjustment Bureau again?

Kaitlin

This was a lot more fun 2 hours ago

DF

DICK DICK DICK DICK

Alexander Parker

Both of those could be interesting episodes even if I don't like the movies. With Scream I'd rather they just do Wes Craven on main feed.

PG

why did they hype us..

Rudy A Martinez

Friendly reminder to anyone saying Scream would be best to wait till Halloween… Last year Roger Moore started in August and went through November. A Patreon series is only 2 movies per month, so 6 movies stretches 3 movies, right through the Fall.

Jason Feffer

Who said they’re a populist film podcast only?

Jake Hyslop

They're skipping some fun dick (screamers, imposter). Vote Scream! The commentaries for the twists will be so fucking fun. They've not really done twisty mysteries OR slashers before. Scream baby!

Art Curtis

This series would likely start in July or August, which means it would likely go through Halloween regardless. Roger Moore started in August and went through November.

Jason Feffer

Yeah. This would be the first time I would be watching the movies along side if scream wins. I am excited for griffin to Watch them For the first time. Plus the screams are all different! And what casts. And Ghostface exists in the Viewaskew Universe! 🤯

Chris Lynch

And you'd be wrong

Rory Dunn

Dick in the (Ghost)face!

Manish Agarwal

I'm pretty sure this is what an actual vote for scream would entail, they'd schedule it around Halloween

Eli Green

I love him but I doubt they've ever even considered him

Rory Dunn

It’s almost like the fanbase for a populist film podcast is refusing to have populist films covered this year. It’s becoming exhausting.

Jason Feffer

Come on G Face. Tear that Dick up! It’s such a weak series how did it get this far? Next would be fun. But paycheck and adjustment bureau? We want Deputy Dewdrop!

Chris Lynch

Probably smarter to wait until after the Scream reboot trilogy directed by David Gordon Green gets wrapped up in 2037

Eric Hill

It's just never going to happen

Rory Dunn

I'm sorry, what?

Rory Dunn

This is correct.

Jason Feffer

DICK! DICK! DICK!

longhornsteve

Bummer Screamers isn't on the list but it's dick all the way for me babey

disk-kun, the mascot for the famicom disk system

Ugh how grimly predictable.

Alethia St. Joan

I'll be happy with either winner but I want Dick.

Isaac Adams

Of course the blankies were never gonna go all the way with Scream. What a let down :(

Spam Boi

As someone who was obsessed with PKD in high school and college, truly blindsided by these results and his dominance. But I am always meh on the franchises-that-arent-really-franchises.

Jamie

Griffin and David and the crew have been putting out excellent podcast work out for nearly a decade now. Whatever wins will result in a good time because it's those folks making it. This fanbase can be such a bunch of brats sometimes

Bradley Dame

SCREAM! SCREAM! SCREAM! *receptionist*: SCREAM! SCREAM!

Luis Moro

Yes

Bradley Dame

This was a tough one. Love Scream, but 6 in a row vs a nice variety with Dick made me vote Dick. Count me as a vote for Scream as a special run around Halloween though! 6 in a row feels right then!

Lance

Please, the word is "Screaquels"

Philip M Bernstein

It's annoying that PKD keeps winning. Are people really so excited to hear them talk about blade runner, a movie nobody has ever discussed at length, that they're sabotaging series that could actually be fun?

Max

Goddamn this fanbase's taste is inscrutable

Creighton Budris

The Bad Dick films are definitely worse than the worst Scream films

Jonah Kaufman

Paycheck is the perfect commentary. I am surprised the MST3000K reboot never covered it.

JT Sitko

Compromise: Do dick and also cover Screamers.

Michael Kalange

Vote changed. I like PKD better, but I'd rather have silly commentaries on Scream.

Ted Bogart

No, I’m hyped for both Blade Runners, A Scanner Darkly and Next! (I voted Scream, but feels weird to trivialize a potential series with such strange and interesting movies.)

Sam Greer

Don’t you guys wanna hear Griffin react live to seeing the scream sequels for the first time!! Screamsweep!!!

Kat White

Oceans V PKD is a more compelling match for some reason.

Bud Cutino

Thanks man!

Johannes Wiberg

Similar to yesterday’s matchup where the more fun commentary series is probably the one that requires watching a bunch of bad movies—but with the opposite result!

Ryan Noonan

They can always do Scream imo. PKD winning the whole thing would set a really fun precedent about be types of franchises they can explore.

Thomas adams

Just think of the Lillard talk people!

Joe Douglas

Ghostface: I can't believe I'm losing to this guy

Samuel Kay

Don't fuck this up guys. Scream needs to win.

Harry Kolmer

Maybe because I just listened to the Black Men Can’t Jump episode on Scream VI…. I would love a full dive on the Scream series. Especially little tidbits about casting and filming.

Luna Linstrot

Ridley Scott is never going to make main feed (I don't even have time to count how many films he's directed.... 30?), so this is a good chance to talk BR. Hope Villenueve makes the main sometime, though.

Benjamin Simko

I’m not opposed to good horror mini series. I just don’t think Scream qualifies as good.

James Manning

This is bullshit. Scream would be so much more fun

Brian Hines

apparently everybody wants The D (even though the scream movies are more fun here)

Ben Burbank

SCREAM OR BUST

RJ Burchatz

Every scream movie is fun and the commentaries would be fun. Are people actually hyped for a paycheck commentary

Eli Green

gimme that Dick!

Tom

You hit me w the phone (philip k) dick!

David Rosenblatt

Please, for the love of god, I do not want Scream

H Alex Younger

Broooooooooo, I completely forgot this extremely relevant piece of context. Thanks for the reminder. I feel that should be in BOLD at the bottom of every voting post. 🤣

Frog Dimples (Jesse)

Whoah, Dick is the surprise favorite!

Daniel A. Barron

Damn I thought Scream would clean up here. Paycheck is a fascinating movie that doesn’t exist and I’d love to hear it discussed but shit Scream is one of the most consistent, fun franchises of all time. Gimme Ghostface and Neve Campbell!

Rhett

Gonna have to face it you're aDICKted to love

Jeremy Culver

For main feed style episodes, DICK would be my PICK. But these are commentaries. SCREAM would be a DREAM.

Johannes Wiberg

DICK HIVE

Cal O'Boyle

I'm going Scream but A Scanner Darkly (what a difference an A makes) was just a big movie for me in highschool. I'd be very happy with Dick if it ends up winning.

George Dunne

Most of those Phillip k dick movies blow

Deren Ney

I'm not averse to horror at all. Just love me some Dick.

Michael Harrison

I’m gettin a little Woozy!!

Nick A

I see what you did there

Dean Carrano

Scream means Wes mini-series. We might not get this otherwise.

Alan French

Yeah that’s making me feel better about these results

Kyle V

Oh, thank G-d. I was really worried for a second.

Matthew Farthing

Jokes aside, I really want an excuse to watch A Scanner Darkly again.

Begemott

Gotta go DICK

Zak Goldberger

I'm happy either way, but the boys so rarely talk horror I would love to see Scream go all the way

John Millsap

I would really love for them to do a horror mini on patreon. I just want them to do a discrete franchise like Philip K Dick more.

Zak Goldberger

C'mon - Scream would be a fantastic series

Rhett A Mitter

GIMME THAT DICK

Scott Southard

Vote SCREAM

Jack Loar

If you listen hard enough you can hear Alex Ross Perry is still talking from the Halloween episode

Adam

This one is a Sophie's choice amirite

Sophie Raseman

"Yes, I like scary movies, why do you ask?"

Matt Vaughan

I still don’t understand this podcast’s fanbase’s aversion to horror. It’s mind blowing we somehow got a Carpenter mini, but anytime something (legitimately) horror related makes it up the ranks in a Patreon March Madness; this group makes it loud and proud to smoosh it like a bug. Horror films are a large piece of film history and as we’ve seen with the Scream franchise, are a great place to play around with blending of genres, providing social commentary on film, satire, and subverting expectations. Horror fans are the real ones.

Matthew Chmiel

Oh, I see. That's a Dick joke.

Holden Martinson

If Scream doesn't win, I feel like they'll just do them this year anyways around October as their horror series.

Nate Shu

Don't let people convince you that voting against Scream is a vote for covering Craven on the main feed, he has 20 movies with many forgettable ones. They are not gonna cover him on the main feed

Jonah Kaufman

SCREAM!!

Jack LaMotte

I wanted scream to win but Park is doing so well on the main feed that I’ll let this slide…

Zach

Here's my argument for Dick, A Scanner Darkly fucks hard

Evan

Scream needs to win people. Griffin needs to watch them!

Rudy A Martinez

DICKERINAS RISE

Sofia Car

Voting Scream, because the only reason I've voted for Dick in the past is the idea of getting episodes on BR and BR2049. But all the stuff in the middle (besides A Scanner Darkly) is of no interest to me. Scream has a lot more potential for interesting commentary imo.

Christopher Roundhill

Someone has to stand up to Scream

Seymour Butz

Scream is a better hang. Plus, it would be cool for them to touch on slashers for once.

Holden Martinson

Now this is freaking hard

Jordan Coleman

Dick in the lead! This is a welcome surprise.

James Manning

Vote Dick!

TV's Kevin Lanigan

I scream, you scream, we all scream for DICK

Eric

If Scream loses we riot! I must hear David discuss his love for Scream 3.

City Fox

Remember that a vote against Scream commentaries is a vote *for* Scream, Nightmare on Elm Street, New Nightmare, Swamp Thing, Red Eye, and all-time Blank Check movie Music of the Heart on main feed (in 2029). Vote Dick!

Clay Ammentorp

VOTE SCREAM PLEASE

Wade Hollomon

There’s a movement that I don’t like.

Zack Kendall

VOTE SCREAM GOD DAMNIT!

Steve Geiler

I SCREAM YOU SCREAM WE ALL SCREAM FOR TEAM SCREAM

miles bolyard

YES DICK

Étienne Fillion-Sauvé

Solid point. But that's also my reasoning for not voting dick. I want that Denis Villeneuve series 😬

Steve Geiler

Get it Dick!

Kevin Grow

This outcome is making me feel better about the current results of Bong vs Wong

Joel Cunningham

Oh no, how is Dick in an early lead?!? I thought Scream would crush this, as it should

Jonah Kaufman

I doubt they ever do it. Vote Scream here.

Anthony Regina

I need scream to win more than I need oxygen to breathe.

Todd Kremer

Dickheads overwhelmingly demanding Radio Free Albemuth be added to the list. Many people are saying this!

Dersquerin

I literally had a dream last night about the gang covering the Scream series. Time to make it a reality...

Joel DeJong

It’s time to scream

Anthony Regina

Don’t you cowards dare let Scream win this one. Not over Dick.

Josh B

I'm screamin' for Dick, you're screamin' for Dick, we're all screamin' for Dick!!

Missi Information

I WANT DICK

Skimbleshanks The Railway Cat

We have to get Craven covered on main feed, gang! He's too good to go behind the paywall!

Mike Finnerty

😱😱😱😱😱😱

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