MARCH MADNESS 2023 - Day 29
Added 2023-03-29 16:00:06 +0000 UTCSCREAM had the juice to knock out MORTAL KOMBAT, making it the lone horror franchise to reach the final four!
Up today, in our first semi-final, it’s hot thieves vs. hot cops.
It’s OCEAN’S vs. POLICE STORY.

With the Ocean's franchise, we'd get 5 films:
- Ocean's 11 (1960)
- Ocean's Eleven (2001)
- Ocean's Twelve (2004)
- Ocean's Thirteen (2007)
- Ocean's 8 (2018)
With POLICE STORY, we’d also do 5 films:
- Police Story (1985)
- Police Story 2 (1988)
- Police Story 3: Supercop (1992)
- Crime Story (1993)
- First Strike (1996)
We will not be covering Supercop 2 (not enough Chan) nor the “reboots” New Police Story and Police Story 2013.
WHICH JELLY-LESS FRANCHISE MOVES ON TO THE FINAL ROUND?
Comments
overrated movies with some of the most overrated actors
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-30 17:15:41 +0000 UTCScream 4 doesn't exist. I can remember what cinema screen I saw it in and nothing else about it.
HappyCroc
2023-03-30 15:48:21 +0000 UTCThis is a crime
Alicia Miao
2023-03-30 14:21:21 +0000 UTCWhat do you mean by irrelevant and out of touch? They're good movies with some of the biggest stars in movies (still)
Perry
2023-03-30 13:49:39 +0000 UTCOcean's 12 doesn't exist?!?!?!?
Alex Lovendahl
2023-03-30 13:31:12 +0000 UTCThere are 5 oceans movies that are interesting to talk about
Jonathan Eby
2023-03-30 06:42:36 +0000 UTCJUSTICE FOR JELLY!!
Jonathan Eby
2023-03-30 06:41:57 +0000 UTCYou mean unlike the relevance of Crocodile Dundee or Naqoyqatsi? I vote for what I think will produce the best episodes.
Johannes Wiberg
2023-03-30 05:14:45 +0000 UTCI want to join hands with Jelly voters to vote Dick tomorrow, incidentally, I say that Dick is the thing
Rad Rodge
2023-03-30 04:24:36 +0000 UTCLike, there’s even multiple styles of pizza, none of them are good?
Rad Rodge
2023-03-30 04:19:50 +0000 UTCthis is the first good reason I've seen for voting for oceans lolol
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-30 03:48:37 +0000 UTCthat seems new, right?
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-30 03:45:11 +0000 UTComg parker posey i totally forgot
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-30 03:43:37 +0000 UTCI hope you mean 8
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-30 03:42:54 +0000 UTCagree with you 100% colin - do not get it
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-30 03:41:48 +0000 UTCA movie filled with good looking and funny people stealing from rich awful people? Totally not relatable to 99% of the population.
Harry Russ
2023-03-30 03:29:59 +0000 UTCOkay this is a challenging take hahah, this is sort of a “pizza isn’t good” take
Rad Rodge
2023-03-30 03:24:52 +0000 UTCwhere is this ocean's love coming from? They seem mostly irrelevant and out of touch to me
colin p clune
2023-03-30 03:00:02 +0000 UTCScream vs Oceans: “No Matter Who Wins, We Lose.”
Brad Pearson
2023-03-30 02:40:33 +0000 UTCI voted Police Story, but I don’t hate this result. The best series are when they have a lot to talk about, and they probably won’t even get through all the careers of the titular 11 during the 1st movie. So what if they’re all the same? So was almost every franchise in this bracket.
CT
2023-03-30 02:33:49 +0000 UTCI am praying for Scream. Zany performances over many years. Each one (3 is… ok) a hoot. Versus smug smirking in movies that don’t really even do heists well. Oceans 11 had some charm. Oceans 13 had a better heist story, but less charm. Oceans 12 doesn’t exist. Oceans 8 (I know it’s not Soderbergh, but he did produce) truly does not exist. Matthew Lillard! Emma Roberts! Henry Winkler! Drew Barrymore! Parker Posey! Just to name a few!
Ryan Monroe
2023-03-30 02:32:02 +0000 UTCi think Scream vs Ocean's is going to be a real barnburner
ian
2023-03-30 02:10:43 +0000 UTCPolice Story barely beatJelly — there’s no way it could stand up to Ocean’s
Chris from Jacksonville
2023-03-30 01:52:49 +0000 UTCThere is one good Ocean's movie, what are we doing here folks.
William Linn
2023-03-30 00:48:48 +0000 UTCGhostface lurks....
Manton
2023-03-29 23:52:20 +0000 UTCOceans is going to win the whole thing, isnt it? They are so milquetoast. What else is left. IDK where the patreon bracket is located.
Jacob Tasoulas
2023-03-29 22:48:31 +0000 UTCMy vote is for Don Cheadles accent work
Kristian Taylor
2023-03-29 22:26:20 +0000 UTCI'm so unsure about who the average BC fans are because you don't like old movies and you clearly don't like movies that are old.
Broccololipop
2023-03-29 22:22:12 +0000 UTCthe part in Police Story w here they destroy a fucking mall was a childhood dream of mine. now that every mall is a vacant ghost town, i wonder how much it would cost to make it happen
Bob Lemmon
2023-03-29 22:18:08 +0000 UTCA gang of criminals led by George Clooney? Das fukkin' weird
Christopher Roundhill
2023-03-29 21:02:14 +0000 UTCYeah, I’m for Police Story here and Scream is at the bottom for me, so it’s a little bit of a bummer but it ain’t the end of the world. Like, if this is what the most people want I can be happy for them.
Mike Batz
2023-03-29 20:55:36 +0000 UTCRing a ding ding, boys
Jeremy Culver
2023-03-29 20:49:36 +0000 UTC…procean.
Lauren Damon
2023-03-29 20:40:57 +0000 UTCHey hey there’s some distant Matt Damon relations voting too* (*not really, but I am pro-Ocean)
Lauren Damon
2023-03-29 20:40:41 +0000 UTCACAB (All Chan’s Are Badass)
Cody Johnson
2023-03-29 20:38:47 +0000 UTCthank god
Justice SZ
2023-03-29 20:20:27 +0000 UTCThere is not a good Oceans movie…
Benjamin
2023-03-29 20:13:52 +0000 UTCI watched all the Police Story movies recently, pretty damn fun the whole through. Voted for Oceans though, as I want to hear them talk about Andy Garcia and how fucking hot he is. Starting the betting pool on how many times David screams in frustration about Oceans 11 (1960) lack of anything even remotely entertaining.
Daniel McLane
2023-03-29 19:22:46 +0000 UTCeclectic cast? there's one woman in Ocean's Eleven and she is barely a character. The first one is a fine movie, but let's at least be real about what it isn't.
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-29 19:20:02 +0000 UTCexcept ocean's 8 if you count that as a sequel. I'd watch that again. Have to sit out on ocean's 12 though. it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. And not even in a so-bad-it's-good way.
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-29 19:16:38 +0000 UTClol
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-29 19:14:40 +0000 UTCLol
Kevin Love Hewitt
2023-03-29 19:08:30 +0000 UTCI want Ocean's to win cause Soderbergh is my guy and this was always the easiest way to get some longform Sodey-talk + the filmmaking of his trilogy is pretty damn wild. BUUUT I voted Police Story to show support for hong kong action/martial arts movies, Chan/Lee/Yen etc. should definitely be considered for commentaries at some point!
Tyler Jennings
2023-03-29 19:03:36 +0000 UTCalso, as a former Jelly voter, c'mon fellow jellylovers, don't use "revenge for Jelly" as an excuse to vote against the lesser known combatant that's clearly the significant underdog going into this even without that baggage.
Zak Goldberger
2023-03-29 18:49:33 +0000 UTCThe real question is: what is everyone having for lunch
Sam F Seagroves
2023-03-29 18:49:13 +0000 UTCACAB. Jelly forever
JB
2023-03-29 18:45:17 +0000 UTCVote fore recaps at the start of sequels! Vote for Jackie Chan, Maggie Cheung and Michelle Yeoh! Vote for blooper reels in the credits!Vote for slapstick action and kickass choreography!
Jacob
2023-03-29 18:43:51 +0000 UTCtwo really terrific options, either would be an amazing winner. Voted Police Story since Ocean's is steamrolling and it'd be nice to have an excuse to watch the rest of those movies since I haven't seen em all. Vote Dick tomorrow!
Zak Goldberger
2023-03-29 18:42:51 +0000 UTCACAB does not include Jackie because he isn’t a cop...he is an actor.
Cody Johnson
2023-03-29 18:38:22 +0000 UTCOcean's will make for a better commentary - and audio experience in general. Police Story is very visual. Which, while great as a movie, is not suited for a medium like a podcast.
Bill
2023-03-29 18:33:06 +0000 UTCDoes ACAB mean Jackie too? I may have to change my vote.
Tim of The East
2023-03-29 18:32:16 +0000 UTCI hear you, and I appreciate your position, but I’m sure we can all agree that Casey is the only problematic figure in this year’s bracket.
Robert Young
2023-03-29 18:23:15 +0000 UTCI voted for Police Story because those movies rock and I’ve been a Jackie Chan fan since I was a kid, but he doesn’t exactly have an uncontroversial personal life....
Cody Johnson
2023-03-29 18:16:16 +0000 UTCtime for crimeaganda (oceans)
Ruby Levine
2023-03-29 18:12:13 +0000 UTCFuckin’ Elliott Gould lmao that guy can fuckin’ eat on camera! Holy hell!
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-29 18:09:24 +0000 UTCBecause he is her motivation just like she was his?
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-29 18:08:55 +0000 UTCSuper boring way to choose what movies you watch but 🤷♂️
Ryan Noonan
2023-03-29 18:07:58 +0000 UTCCOPAGANDA IS COPAGANDA EVEN, AND ESPECIALLY, IF IT LOOKS COOL DOING IT!
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-29 18:07:47 +0000 UTCFair.
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-29 18:06:58 +0000 UTCOkay Steven Universe ;)
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-29 18:06:17 +0000 UTCI’ll do that before I sit through Copaganda
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-29 18:05:19 +0000 UTCExactly! Ocean’s series is great story! Especially Ocean’s 8!
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-29 18:05:00 +0000 UTCVoting Police Story is tacit approval of inept police behaviors, Copaganda, communist Chinese Police propaganda specifically, and fantastical world view of cops as the strict “good guys.” Ocean’s knows what it is, a fancy heist romp with an eclectic cast who got to hang out and shoot the shit. The behind the scenes stuff alone that the 3 boys can dig up to discuss is worth the vote.
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-29 18:04:31 +0000 UTCPeople ignoring Police Story are also ignoring the fact that Maggie Cheung does slapstick and I'm taking that personally. VOTE FOR MAGGIE, VOTE FOR MICHELLE, VOTE FOR PLATE GLASS WINDOWS
Cynthia
2023-03-29 17:57:55 +0000 UTCVoting Oceans is tacit approval of CA.
Robert Young
2023-03-29 17:53:39 +0000 UTCFundamentally don’t understand the love for the Ocean’s movies.
Sam Schrader
2023-03-29 17:50:22 +0000 UTCOceans movies probably more interesting for commentary purposes but the downside is you have to sit through those dogshit movies.
Ryan Noonan
2023-03-29 17:47:38 +0000 UTCI voted Police Story because Jackie Chan is the greatest physical actor of all time, but voting Oceans does not make you a Casey Affleck stan lmao. Vote who you want to vote for everybody, don’t let other people make you feel bad for weird reasons!
Sam Greer
2023-03-29 17:47:05 +0000 UTCEating chips isn’t a character trait. Vote for the story.
Derrek Drass
2023-03-29 17:36:16 +0000 UTCThose stunts are good as hell!
Richard S
2023-03-29 17:34:36 +0000 UTCA lot of Casey Affleck stans on this feed. Truly disappointing.
Robert Young
2023-03-29 17:33:44 +0000 UTCI literally just rewatched all of Scream within the past two years. Kinda bummed that it's gonna win this personally
Evan
2023-03-29 17:28:19 +0000 UTCOcean's is an ideal commentary series IMO. Lots of movie star discussion and they can go into Soderbergh since it's clear they will never cover him due to the length of his filmography.
Zach Altschuler
2023-03-29 17:24:18 +0000 UTCThis is a great point, she hasn’t been hyped enough during the Patreon bracket
Rad Rodge
2023-03-29 17:23:48 +0000 UTCI’m thinking now about the chance for Julia Roberts discussion, the show has never really had that and with the new season of You Must Remember This it feels like Roberts time to me
Rad Rodge
2023-03-29 17:20:33 +0000 UTCBetween Police Story 3, Heroic Trio, and Executioners, the Michele Yeoh collection on Criterion now almost doubles as a Maggie Cheung series, and I’m loving it.
Mike Batz
2023-03-29 17:15:47 +0000 UTCWow, the Sinatra heads have come out swinging!
HappyCroc
2023-03-29 17:15:40 +0000 UTCI'm on a heavy losing streak on Patreon. At least the main feed is going better for me because Oceans and Scream were my two absolute bottom picks
HappyCroc
2023-03-29 17:10:14 +0000 UTCO shunned
Josh Harvey
2023-03-29 17:05:18 +0000 UTCOceans! Firing up to steam roll Scream.
James Manning
2023-03-29 17:00:08 +0000 UTCACAB
Ruby Levine
2023-03-29 16:53:16 +0000 UTCdamn. I was ready for all the Maggie Cheung talk, she's so baby in these movies!
Daniel Montesinos-Donaghy
2023-03-29 16:52:34 +0000 UTCOceans I guess. I love the Police Story movies but I don't think they really lend themselves to the kind of active commentary the gang does on Patreon. Oceans doesn't really either but at least those episodes won't be 50% giggling and "oh shit!"
jscro
2023-03-29 16:51:21 +0000 UTCOcean's beat the turtles. Police Story beat Jelly. I don't want either.
Luke Swisher
2023-03-29 16:50:08 +0000 UTCJustice For Jelly, Danny Ocean’s making it happen.
Andrew Jones
2023-03-29 16:47:03 +0000 UTCMain conflict here is I've always wanted to see the Police Story movies but rewatched oceans several times each
Chad Chidester
2023-03-29 16:45:42 +0000 UTCOcean’s Twelve is an amazing sequel and I will fight anyone who disagrees with me . . . . . . but I voted for Police Story as Ocean’s is going to win.
Matthew Chmiel
2023-03-29 16:42:15 +0000 UTCWait did they just add the Rat Pack movie or was it always there?! I want the bits!
Charles
2023-03-29 16:42:02 +0000 UTCYo yo yo I need more Yeoh!
Mark Jackson-Brown
2023-03-29 16:35:51 +0000 UTCSorry Police Story, but we need more Elliott Gould and Brad Pitt eating in our lives.
Scotty White
2023-03-29 16:35:43 +0000 UTCRIP the Elmore Leonard squad, not even a question in this match-up
Jack R
2023-03-29 16:35:24 +0000 UTCI was 100% behind Jelly but I'm still voting for Police Story because that's how much I hate the Oceans sequels.
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-29 16:34:56 +0000 UTCIf nothing else, a conversation about Ocean's 8 could investigate why they felt the need to bring up George Clooney three (3) times without him ever actually showing up
Eric Stolze
2023-03-29 16:33:28 +0000 UTCPolice story would be perfect for commentary because they play so well as silent films. I'm disappointed
Steven Nuchols
2023-03-29 16:32:27 +0000 UTCNoooooo please vote for Police Story so we can hear Ben react to the stunts live
Omeed
2023-03-29 16:29:25 +0000 UTCI've long fantasized about pulling off an elaborate heist and walking away with millions. Therefore my vote is for OCEANS.
Wyatt Gray
2023-03-29 16:27:23 +0000 UTCIm voting for Police story only because I know Ben would LOVE them
Anthony Alfano
2023-03-29 16:26:58 +0000 UTCIf you don't vote Police Story, you're racist!!!!! Lol
Lionel Olivares
2023-03-29 16:25:36 +0000 UTCI'd like to imagine Jelly smiling in his grave seeing these results
Filip Boratyn
2023-03-29 16:25:23 +0000 UTCBummer.
Tobey
2023-03-29 16:24:31 +0000 UTCMillennial generation movie plus Jelly revenge? How could it not?
Donald W Pratt
2023-03-29 16:22:54 +0000 UTCElliott Gould and his glasses need to be discussed
Kaitlin
2023-03-29 16:19:32 +0000 UTCOof didn't think the margin would be this bad.
Henry McKenzie
2023-03-29 16:19:31 +0000 UTCI just think the Ocean Movies will speak to the hosts strengths more than Police Story.
Jordan Coleman
2023-03-29 16:19:25 +0000 UTCAvenge jelly
EvanEightNine !
2023-03-29 16:19:05 +0000 UTCJelly wouldn't want us to vote against Police Story just cause it eliminated his movies. He'd want us to vote with our hearts. Das whas fucked up
Glinko Dool
2023-03-29 16:18:24 +0000 UTCBrad Pitt and George Clooney’s moms must be patreons, it’s the only way to explain how oceans keeps making it so far
David McCallum
2023-03-29 16:16:59 +0000 UTCA vote for Police Story is a vote against plate glass (vote Police Story)
Alex Kazanas
2023-03-29 16:16:06 +0000 UTCTwo franchises that would be really fun to talk about! I'd be so happy with either. This is a fun process. Whoever wins we win!
Andrew
2023-03-29 16:15:58 +0000 UTCThere’s no substitute for Jelly but Carl Reiner as Saul Bloom is a fine consolation. Lining up all the hottest stars in Hollywood in one big ensemble, just so this old veteran can walk away with every scene. Legendary.
Ryan Wayward
2023-03-29 16:15:39 +0000 UTCLook at the garbage we’re left choosing between. What an embarrassment.
Liam
2023-03-29 16:14:07 +0000 UTCI had no idea the Oceans movies had so many fans, don’t think I’ve ever met one in real life.
CT13
2023-03-29 16:14:00 +0000 UTCACABracadabra
Manish Agarwal
2023-03-29 16:13:31 +0000 UTCPolice Story all the way.
Logghammer
2023-03-29 16:12:03 +0000 UTCI've said from the beginning it will be Ocean's vs Scream in the finale. I'll be shocked if that doesn't hold true
Jonah Kaufman
2023-03-29 16:11:24 +0000 UTCMANIFEST PACINO
Nathan Velasquez
2023-03-29 16:11:12 +0000 UTCHappy to see Oceans winning but I will never get over Mortal Kombat losing
Nick N
2023-03-29 16:09:56 +0000 UTCI don’t care who wins as long as Ghostface stands tall tomorrow.
DF
2023-03-29 16:08:03 +0000 UTCKind of funny that after the first round of March madness I've hardly ever picked the consensus pick. The Police Story series has so much fun choreography!!
Evan
2023-03-29 16:07:39 +0000 UTCJUSTICE. FOR. JELLY.
Eileen Tierney
2023-03-29 16:06:58 +0000 UTCThey will never do a miniseries for the Soda man. This is the closest we’ll ever get. Oceans all the way
Jake
2023-03-29 16:06:33 +0000 UTC#JusticeForJelly
ChewyWalrus
2023-03-29 16:06:04 +0000 UTCACAB
outb0undflight
2023-03-29 16:05:48 +0000 UTCMichelle Yeohhhhhh
Joe Allen D.
2023-03-29 16:05:46 +0000 UTCPolice Story has a Criterion box set. Ocean’s doesn’t have one of those!!!
Joel Cunningham
2023-03-29 16:05:35 +0000 UTCIF OCEANS WINS I WILL BE PETITIONING TO BE THE GUEST HOST 😂
ALYSSA
2023-03-29 16:05:33 +0000 UTCI’m mad about Jelly too but if we gotta listen to BC sleep through the original Ocean’s… das fucken weird!!!
Matt Greenberg
2023-03-29 16:05:16 +0000 UTCPolice Story!!
bigcabba
2023-03-29 16:05:03 +0000 UTCAbstaining out of respect for Jelly
Ross Wendlandt
2023-03-29 16:04:58 +0000 UTCVOTE DIRTBAG, VOTE ACAB
Matthew O'Reilly
2023-03-29 16:04:48 +0000 UTCOceans vs scream is going to be a helluva battle. Scream probably wins because most of them will be first time Griffin watches. But go OCEANS
Chauncey Telese
2023-03-29 16:04:00 +0000 UTCJust remember who was at the scene of Jelly's murder, and that Danny Ocean has an alibi. Danny would never turn in Jelly, because das fucked up.
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2023-03-29 16:03:55 +0000 UTC