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MARCH MADNESS 2023 - Day 29

SCREAM had the juice to knock out MORTAL KOMBAT, making it the lone horror franchise to reach the final four!

Up today, in our first semi-final, it’s hot thieves vs. hot cops.

It’s OCEAN’S vs. POLICE STORY.


With the Ocean's franchise, we'd get 5 films:

With POLICE STORY, we’d also do 5 films:

We will not be covering Supercop 2 (not enough Chan) nor the “reboots” New Police Story and Police Story 2013.

WHICH JELLY-LESS FRANCHISE MOVES ON TO THE FINAL ROUND?

Comments

overrated movies with some of the most overrated actors

Brynndiana Jones

Scream 4 doesn't exist. I can remember what cinema screen I saw it in and nothing else about it.

HappyCroc

This is a crime

Alicia Miao

What do you mean by irrelevant and out of touch? They're good movies with some of the biggest stars in movies (still)

Perry

Ocean's 12 doesn't exist?!?!?!?

Alex Lovendahl

There are 5 oceans movies that are interesting to talk about

Jonathan Eby

JUSTICE FOR JELLY!!

Jonathan Eby

You mean unlike the relevance of Crocodile Dundee or Naqoyqatsi? I vote for what I think will produce the best episodes.

Johannes Wiberg

I want to join hands with Jelly voters to vote Dick tomorrow, incidentally, I say that Dick is the thing

Rad Rodge

Like, there’s even multiple styles of pizza, none of them are good?

Rad Rodge

this is the first good reason I've seen for voting for oceans lolol

Brynndiana Jones

that seems new, right?

Brynndiana Jones

omg parker posey i totally forgot

Brynndiana Jones

I hope you mean 8

Brynndiana Jones

agree with you 100% colin - do not get it

Brynndiana Jones

A movie filled with good looking and funny people stealing from rich awful people? Totally not relatable to 99% of the population.

Harry Russ

Okay this is a challenging take hahah, this is sort of a “pizza isn’t good” take

Rad Rodge

where is this ocean's love coming from? They seem mostly irrelevant and out of touch to me

colin p clune

Scream vs Oceans: “No Matter Who Wins, We Lose.”

Brad Pearson

I voted Police Story, but I don’t hate this result. The best series are when they have a lot to talk about, and they probably won’t even get through all the careers of the titular 11 during the 1st movie. So what if they’re all the same? So was almost every franchise in this bracket.

CT

I am praying for Scream. Zany performances over many years. Each one (3 is… ok) a hoot. Versus smug smirking in movies that don’t really even do heists well. Oceans 11 had some charm. Oceans 13 had a better heist story, but less charm. Oceans 12 doesn’t exist. Oceans 8 (I know it’s not Soderbergh, but he did produce) truly does not exist. Matthew Lillard! Emma Roberts! Henry Winkler! Drew Barrymore! Parker Posey! Just to name a few!

Ryan Monroe

i think Scream vs Ocean's is going to be a real barnburner

ian

Police Story barely beatJelly — there’s no way it could stand up to Ocean’s

Chris from Jacksonville

There is one good Ocean's movie, what are we doing here folks.

William Linn

Ghostface lurks....

Manton

Oceans is going to win the whole thing, isnt it? They are so milquetoast. What else is left. IDK where the patreon bracket is located.

Jacob Tasoulas

My vote is for Don Cheadles accent work

Kristian Taylor

I'm so unsure about who the average BC fans are because you don't like old movies and you clearly don't like movies that are old.

Broccololipop

the part in Police Story w here they destroy a fucking mall was a childhood dream of mine. now that every mall is a vacant ghost town, i wonder how much it would cost to make it happen

Bob Lemmon

A gang of criminals led by George Clooney? Das fukkin' weird

Christopher Roundhill

Yeah, I’m for Police Story here and Scream is at the bottom for me, so it’s a little bit of a bummer but it ain’t the end of the world. Like, if this is what the most people want I can be happy for them.

Mike Batz

Ring a ding ding, boys

Jeremy Culver

…procean.

Lauren Damon

Hey hey there’s some distant Matt Damon relations voting too* (*not really, but I am pro-Ocean)

Lauren Damon

ACAB (All Chan’s Are Badass)

Cody Johnson

thank god

Justice SZ

There is not a good Oceans movie…

Benjamin

I watched all the Police Story movies recently, pretty damn fun the whole through. Voted for Oceans though, as I want to hear them talk about Andy Garcia and how fucking hot he is. Starting the betting pool on how many times David screams in frustration about Oceans 11 (1960) lack of anything even remotely entertaining.

Daniel McLane

eclectic cast? there's one woman in Ocean's Eleven and she is barely a character. The first one is a fine movie, but let's at least be real about what it isn't.

Brynndiana Jones

except ocean's 8 if you count that as a sequel. I'd watch that again. Have to sit out on ocean's 12 though. it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. And not even in a so-bad-it's-good way.

Brynndiana Jones

lol

Brynndiana Jones

Lol

Kevin Love Hewitt

I want Ocean's to win cause Soderbergh is my guy and this was always the easiest way to get some longform Sodey-talk + the filmmaking of his trilogy is pretty damn wild. BUUUT I voted Police Story to show support for hong kong action/martial arts movies, Chan/Lee/Yen etc. should definitely be considered for commentaries at some point!

Tyler Jennings

also, as a former Jelly voter, c'mon fellow jellylovers, don't use "revenge for Jelly" as an excuse to vote against the lesser known combatant that's clearly the significant underdog going into this even without that baggage.

Zak Goldberger

The real question is: what is everyone having for lunch

Sam F Seagroves

ACAB. Jelly forever

JB

Vote fore recaps at the start of sequels! Vote for Jackie Chan, Maggie Cheung and Michelle Yeoh! Vote for blooper reels in the credits!Vote for slapstick action and kickass choreography!

Jacob

two really terrific options, either would be an amazing winner. Voted Police Story since Ocean's is steamrolling and it'd be nice to have an excuse to watch the rest of those movies since I haven't seen em all. Vote Dick tomorrow!

Zak Goldberger

ACAB does not include Jackie because he isn’t a cop...he is an actor.

Cody Johnson

Ocean's will make for a better commentary - and audio experience in general. Police Story is very visual. Which, while great as a movie, is not suited for a medium like a podcast.

Bill

Does ACAB mean Jackie too? I may have to change my vote.

Tim of The East

I hear you, and I appreciate your position, but I’m sure we can all agree that Casey is the only problematic figure in this year’s bracket.

Robert Young

I voted for Police Story because those movies rock and I’ve been a Jackie Chan fan since I was a kid, but he doesn’t exactly have an uncontroversial personal life....

Cody Johnson

time for crimeaganda (oceans)

Ruby Levine

Fuckin’ Elliott Gould lmao that guy can fuckin’ eat on camera! Holy hell!

Tyler Duggan

Because he is her motivation just like she was his?

Tyler Duggan

Super boring way to choose what movies you watch but 🤷‍♂️

Ryan Noonan

COPAGANDA IS COPAGANDA EVEN, AND ESPECIALLY, IF IT LOOKS COOL DOING IT!

Tyler Duggan

Fair.

Tyler Duggan

Okay Steven Universe ;)

Tyler Duggan

I’ll do that before I sit through Copaganda

Tyler Duggan

Exactly! Ocean’s series is great story! Especially Ocean’s 8!

Tyler Duggan

Voting Police Story is tacit approval of inept police behaviors, Copaganda, communist Chinese Police propaganda specifically, and fantastical world view of cops as the strict “good guys.” Ocean’s knows what it is, a fancy heist romp with an eclectic cast who got to hang out and shoot the shit. The behind the scenes stuff alone that the 3 boys can dig up to discuss is worth the vote.

Tyler Duggan

People ignoring Police Story are also ignoring the fact that Maggie Cheung does slapstick and I'm taking that personally. VOTE FOR MAGGIE, VOTE FOR MICHELLE, VOTE FOR PLATE GLASS WINDOWS

Cynthia

Voting Oceans is tacit approval of CA.

Robert Young

Fundamentally don’t understand the love for the Ocean’s movies.

Sam Schrader

Oceans movies probably more interesting for commentary purposes but the downside is you have to sit through those dogshit movies.

Ryan Noonan

I voted Police Story because Jackie Chan is the greatest physical actor of all time, but voting Oceans does not make you a Casey Affleck stan lmao. Vote who you want to vote for everybody, don’t let other people make you feel bad for weird reasons!

Sam Greer

Eating chips isn’t a character trait. Vote for the story.

Derrek Drass

Those stunts are good as hell!

Richard S

A lot of Casey Affleck stans on this feed. Truly disappointing.

Robert Young

I literally just rewatched all of Scream within the past two years. Kinda bummed that it's gonna win this personally

Evan

Ocean's is an ideal commentary series IMO. Lots of movie star discussion and they can go into Soderbergh since it's clear they will never cover him due to the length of his filmography.

Zach Altschuler

This is a great point, she hasn’t been hyped enough during the Patreon bracket

Rad Rodge

I’m thinking now about the chance for Julia Roberts discussion, the show has never really had that and with the new season of You Must Remember This it feels like Roberts time to me

Rad Rodge

Between Police Story 3, Heroic Trio, and Executioners, the Michele Yeoh collection on Criterion now almost doubles as a Maggie Cheung series, and I’m loving it.

Mike Batz

Wow, the Sinatra heads have come out swinging!

HappyCroc

I'm on a heavy losing streak on Patreon. At least the main feed is going better for me because Oceans and Scream were my two absolute bottom picks

HappyCroc

O shunned

Josh Harvey

Oceans! Firing up to steam roll Scream.

James Manning

ACAB

Ruby Levine

damn. I was ready for all the Maggie Cheung talk, she's so baby in these movies!

Daniel Montesinos-Donaghy

Oceans I guess. I love the Police Story movies but I don't think they really lend themselves to the kind of active commentary the gang does on Patreon. Oceans doesn't really either but at least those episodes won't be 50% giggling and "oh shit!"

jscro

Ocean's beat the turtles. Police Story beat Jelly. I don't want either.

Luke Swisher

Justice For Jelly, Danny Ocean’s making it happen.

Andrew Jones

Main conflict here is I've always wanted to see the Police Story movies but rewatched oceans several times each

Chad Chidester

Ocean’s Twelve is an amazing sequel and I will fight anyone who disagrees with me . . . . . . but I voted for Police Story as Ocean’s is going to win.

Matthew Chmiel

Wait did they just add the Rat Pack movie or was it always there?! I want the bits!

Charles

Yo yo yo I need more Yeoh!

Mark Jackson-Brown

Sorry Police Story, but we need more Elliott Gould and Brad Pitt eating in our lives.

Scotty White

RIP the Elmore Leonard squad, not even a question in this match-up

Jack R

I was 100% behind Jelly but I'm still voting for Police Story because that's how much I hate the Oceans sequels.

Brynndiana Jones

If nothing else, a conversation about Ocean's 8 could investigate why they felt the need to bring up George Clooney three (3) times without him ever actually showing up

Eric Stolze

Police story would be perfect for commentary because they play so well as silent films. I'm disappointed

Steven Nuchols

Noooooo please vote for Police Story so we can hear Ben react to the stunts live

Omeed

I've long fantasized about pulling off an elaborate heist and walking away with millions. Therefore my vote is for OCEANS.

Wyatt Gray

Im voting for Police story only because I know Ben would LOVE them

Anthony Alfano

If you don't vote Police Story, you're racist!!!!! Lol

Lionel Olivares

I'd like to imagine Jelly smiling in his grave seeing these results

Filip Boratyn

Bummer.

Tobey

Millennial generation movie plus Jelly revenge? How could it not?

Donald W Pratt

Elliott Gould and his glasses need to be discussed

Kaitlin

Oof didn't think the margin would be this bad.

Henry McKenzie

I just think the Ocean Movies will speak to the hosts strengths more than Police Story.

Jordan Coleman

Avenge jelly

EvanEightNine !

Jelly wouldn't want us to vote against Police Story just cause it eliminated his movies. He'd want us to vote with our hearts. Das whas fucked up

Glinko Dool

Brad Pitt and George Clooney’s moms must be patreons, it’s the only way to explain how oceans keeps making it so far

David McCallum

A vote for Police Story is a vote against plate glass (vote Police Story)

Alex Kazanas

Two franchises that would be really fun to talk about! I'd be so happy with either. This is a fun process. Whoever wins we win!

Andrew

There’s no substitute for Jelly but Carl Reiner as Saul Bloom is a fine consolation. Lining up all the hottest stars in Hollywood in one big ensemble, just so this old veteran can walk away with every scene. Legendary.

Ryan Wayward

Look at the garbage we’re left choosing between. What an embarrassment.

Liam

I had no idea the Oceans movies had so many fans, don’t think I’ve ever met one in real life.

CT13

ACABracadabra

Manish Agarwal

Police Story all the way.

Logghammer

I've said from the beginning it will be Ocean's vs Scream in the finale. I'll be shocked if that doesn't hold true

Jonah Kaufman

MANIFEST PACINO

Nathan Velasquez

Happy to see Oceans winning but I will never get over Mortal Kombat losing

Nick N

I don’t care who wins as long as Ghostface stands tall tomorrow.

DF

Kind of funny that after the first round of March madness I've hardly ever picked the consensus pick. The Police Story series has so much fun choreography!!

Evan

JUSTICE. FOR. JELLY.

Eileen Tierney

They will never do a miniseries for the Soda man. This is the closest we’ll ever get. Oceans all the way

Jake

#JusticeForJelly

ChewyWalrus

ACAB

outb0undflight

Michelle Yeohhhhhh

Joe Allen D.

Police Story has a Criterion box set. Ocean’s doesn’t have one of those!!!

Joel Cunningham

IF OCEANS WINS I WILL BE PETITIONING TO BE THE GUEST HOST 😂

ALYSSA

I’m mad about Jelly too but if we gotta listen to BC sleep through the original Ocean’s… das fucken weird!!!

Matt Greenberg

Police Story!!

bigcabba

Abstaining out of respect for Jelly

Ross Wendlandt

VOTE DIRTBAG, VOTE ACAB

Matthew O'Reilly

Oceans vs scream is going to be a helluva battle. Scream probably wins because most of them will be first time Griffin watches. But go OCEANS

Chauncey Telese

Just remember who was at the scene of Jelly's murder, and that Danny Ocean has an alibi. Danny would never turn in Jelly, because das fucked up.

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