MARCH MADNESS 2023 - Day 25
Added 2023-03-25 16:00:05 +0000 UTCCongratulations to SCREAM, which brutally murdered all four Beatles yesterday, including the two who were already dead.
Here is a look at the franchises still in the running as we reach the Elite Eight:

Up today - OCEAN’S vs. TURTLES.
“Finding Nemo” taught us that you can find Turtles in the Ocean, but these Turtles probably feel more comfortable in the city sewers. Also these Oceans aren’t wet per se, even though they’re slick.
ANYWAY.
With the Ocean's franchise, we'd get 5 films:
- Ocean's 11 (1960)
- Ocean's Eleven (2001)
- Ocean's Twelve (2004)
- Ocean's Thirteen (2007)
- Ocean's 8 (2018)
With TMNT, we’d do 6 films - the original live action ones, the Michael Bay-produced reboots, and the animated feature:
- TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES (1990)
- TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES II: THE SECRET OF THE OOZE (1991)
- TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES III (1993)
- TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES (2014)
- TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES: OUT OF THE SHADOWS (2016)
- TNMT (2007)
TBD on how / if we cover the upcoming animated feature, which looks great.
So - who will be the first franchise to advance to the Final Four?
Comments
Yeah but the 2007 cast was insane. Chris evans. Lawrence fishborne. Sarah Michelle gellar. Patrick Stewart. Zhang ziyi. Plus voice over legends! And also ninja rap!
Chris Lynch
2023-03-27 06:29:35 +0000 UTCBut what if they went under water and frustrated everyone while they diffused bombs
Chris Lynch
2023-03-27 06:25:37 +0000 UTCYou sound hurt. I hope you heal. And get an ice cream. Plenty to talk about. But if I would rather take Han eating snacks over rusty ryan any day
Chris Lynch
2023-03-27 06:24:42 +0000 UTCObviously this isn’t about grown ups. That’s hardly a franchise. This is about turtle power
Chris Lynch
2023-03-27 06:21:51 +0000 UTCSame. The commenTary would be so good. The dossier alone. Chris evans as Cary jones!?
Chris Lynch
2023-03-27 06:20:43 +0000 UTCAre there 11 oceans tho?
Chris Lynch
2023-03-27 06:19:31 +0000 UTCOceans 11 gave the turtles a jose canseco bat. And I didn’t pay money for this.
Chris Lynch
2023-03-27 06:19:06 +0000 UTCThis is totally not radical, dude
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-27 03:07:29 +0000 UTCThis Sucks
Chris Lynch
2023-03-26 17:35:31 +0000 UTCI demand to be the guest if Ocean’s wins it all, I love those fuckin movies
ALYSSA
2023-03-26 16:23:14 +0000 UTCRecount !
Paul Munoz
2023-03-26 16:13:51 +0000 UTCYou people let TMNT beat The Exorcist for this? Shame.
FreakaJebus
2023-03-26 15:53:58 +0000 UTCHow dare you all. You deny me my turts.
Michael Loiacono
2023-03-26 15:51:25 +0000 UTCDo people realize they’re voting for the heist movies and not actual oceans
Game That Tune
2023-03-26 15:51:14 +0000 UTCAwful opinion
John Boy
2023-03-26 15:48:41 +0000 UTCThis is ridiculous!
Alan Carroll
2023-03-26 14:11:39 +0000 UTCFirst the SNL upset and now this. I just want a silly little patreon series.
Liam
2023-03-26 13:38:48 +0000 UTCDidn't realize most Blankies are 3 years old. Grow up kids, it's a podcast contest
Trevor Talley
2023-03-26 10:20:07 +0000 UTCNaqoyqatsi all over again
Universal Single Payer
2023-03-26 07:36:34 +0000 UTCYikes at all of this
Zachary Strebeck
2023-03-26 07:12:10 +0000 UTCVery disappointing results, Blankies. Y’all keep fucking up
Jeremy Jurgens
2023-03-26 07:06:29 +0000 UTCThey probably did that because they didn’t really wanna cover the scorpion king after being pummeled to death by mummy 2 and 3…
Kevin Love Hewitt
2023-03-26 05:31:19 +0000 UTCThis should not be close. TMNT is perfect Ben fodder
Jared V. Archuleta
2023-03-26 05:05:23 +0000 UTCI wanted to hear Ben talk about ooze
andy
2023-03-26 04:55:38 +0000 UTCThank god the turtles finally got taken out. Other than some great 90s FX, ya’ll do realize that those movies are pure garbage, right? We would get a great 45 minute discussion about the turtle costumes during the 1st movie…and then what? What is there to talk about? WHO is there to talk about? Good riddance.
CT
2023-03-26 03:09:36 +0000 UTCGnashing teeth, wringing hands, howling
Beef Steak Tomato
2023-03-26 01:01:58 +0000 UTCBut what if the Turtles went back in time?
Devin
2023-03-25 23:18:35 +0000 UTCLove and voted for oceans. That said, if TMNT wins, that new movie will be out by the time they do/ finish the series probably... would they cover it?
Michael Cuculich
2023-03-25 22:43:18 +0000 UTCLotta weird comments here. Ocean's rules, so much overreacting
Darren Williams
2023-03-25 22:12:29 +0000 UTCJesus Christ what is going on here
Evelyn Chavanne
2023-03-25 22:04:09 +0000 UTCAre we really choosing smarmy Brad Pitt not-really-acting over TMNT and Jim Henson Creature Studio!?
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-25 21:51:54 +0000 UTCFwiw Ocean's has been my top pick in the bracket since the beginning, they're like my ultimate comfort movies, just good vibes. Can't speak for anyone else but I'd be voting for them even if Turtles hadn't taken out Pazuzu (Exorcist was my #2 tho)
Philip M Bernstein
2023-03-25 21:16:42 +0000 UTCI mean the comment was a joke to begin with, I do not expect them to do anything of the sort. But the Scorpion King also had something like 1000 more votes and ~100 people blowing off steam in the comments is exactly what shifted it then. Again, it’s not going to happen here.
Mike Dickson
2023-03-25 20:54:44 +0000 UTCWell, currently about 1300 more people have voted for Ocean's than Turtles so I would be very surprised if they called an audible based on ~100 people blowing off steam in the comments.
Philip M Bernstein
2023-03-25 20:52:18 +0000 UTC12 is trying very hard. Also, Tom of celebrity talk
Kevin Love Hewitt
2023-03-25 20:50:53 +0000 UTCIt's so weird, I had no idea there was an anti-Ocean's contingent at all until today. They're charming!
Philip M Bernstein
2023-03-25 20:50:16 +0000 UTCBye 👋
Kevin Love Hewitt
2023-03-25 20:49:29 +0000 UTCSome of us are tired of watching bad movies!
Kevin Love Hewitt
2023-03-25 20:45:59 +0000 UTC11>12>13
Kevin Love Hewitt
2023-03-25 20:44:09 +0000 UTCIt wasn’t March Madness so it is a little different. But it was deciding whether to cover Body Bags or Scorpion King as the next Patreon episode. The votes went for Scorpion King but because most of the comments were loudly supportive of Body Bags instead they talked about it for most of the episode (and said the reason was because of the loudness of the comments)
Mike Dickson
2023-03-25 20:41:44 +0000 UTCOCEAN'S HATE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE
Alex Papaioannou
2023-03-25 20:38:50 +0000 UTCThey advanced the loser because more people were talking about them in the comments before? When?
Philip M Bernstein
2023-03-25 20:35:09 +0000 UTCThese numbers are a tragedy. TMNT has so much good fodder to discuss over decades of pop culture
Jon Williams
2023-03-25 20:08:16 +0000 UTCThats it... cancelling Patreon
Jacob Tasoulas
2023-03-25 20:00:59 +0000 UTCCOWABUMMER
Spencer Asmann
2023-03-25 20:00:26 +0000 UTCI’m really pulling for scream myself and didn’t really expect turtles to get this far. I’m just even more in shock that oceans is getting so many votes. I always thought of them as fun but forgettable.
Aaron Farrell
2023-03-25 19:37:52 +0000 UTCShell shocked!
Stephen Michalowicz
2023-03-25 19:31:13 +0000 UTCFor those confused: the Oceans movies are good and have all the pretty boys in them Also they allow for discussion of Sodie and historicizing the movie star Also 12 is really weird and 13 has Al Pacino
Ben Bequette
2023-03-25 19:28:09 +0000 UTCCab we please not spend months talking about Brad Pitt? I just don't have the energy for his recent doh shit behavior
Stephen Blakley
2023-03-25 19:25:47 +0000 UTCWho is out here voting for Ocean’s? Hopefully the gang follows past precedence and advances the group everyone in the comments is talking about rather than the actual vote winner since they’ve done it before.
Mike Dickson
2023-03-25 19:19:57 +0000 UTCI think turtle supremacy is just highly overstated and has less appeal for more ambivalent votes. It would be pretty surprising if it could pull off a win against a heavy hitter like Scream.
Sam Greer
2023-03-25 19:06:55 +0000 UTCIn a perfect world we’d be just in time for oceans 14, where the two crews join forces.
Jack o Diamonds
2023-03-25 19:04:27 +0000 UTCIn this case, agree to disagree, but I’m glad you got something out of these movies that I didn’t. Best of luck in your future turtle related endeavors.
Sam Greer
2023-03-25 19:03:06 +0000 UTCToughest choice yet for the Patreon bracket!
Justin Markey-Thomas
2023-03-25 18:57:17 +0000 UTCChoose turtle power you cowards
Erin
2023-03-25 18:54:50 +0000 UTCIs oceans that popular? Or is this a if I can’t be happy no one can?
Aaron Farrell
2023-03-25 18:43:42 +0000 UTCI have a feeling Ocean is going to win it all and then people are going to complain that the commentaries feel like a slog because the movies are all basically the same in terms of plot and performance but with diminishing effort.
Matthew Duane
2023-03-25 18:34:25 +0000 UTCHow does OCEAN'S keep cleaning up?! Snooze!
Andrew Carden
2023-03-25 18:29:58 +0000 UTCToo much bossa nova last night. Just voted! 🤙
Chris Lynch
2023-03-25 18:14:14 +0000 UTChoping for Ocean’s but also wanting main feed Soderbergh… which will probably never happen… so i’m hoping Ocean’s takes it all
Patrick Orr
2023-03-25 18:14:01 +0000 UTCNo I want turtles vs ghostface!
Chris Lynch
2023-03-25 18:13:32 +0000 UTCAnd when there’s an obvious interest in something it can influence the subsequent Patreon schedule. If one of the shorter series wins they might still cover it in time for the new movie!
ipsydipsy
2023-03-25 18:12:50 +0000 UTCI was upset about the way this was going, but knowing it’s partially motivated by spite weirdly makes me feel better about it.
Robert Young
2023-03-25 18:05:46 +0000 UTCHey Turtles fans, it’s time to get fucked for causing us to miss out on Schrader stories.
Matthew Chmiel
2023-03-25 18:01:45 +0000 UTCThis is an outrage
Josh Rioux
2023-03-25 17:57:00 +0000 UTCOceans v Scream final round: whoever loses, we win
Selmon Rafey
2023-03-25 17:56:26 +0000 UTCThe first turtles movie is an easy top 10 comic book movie. Dark, emotional, and a study of maturing into adults as brothers. The farm house sequence alone is better than anything in Oceans. I am all for Soderbergh miniseries but the Oceans movies are the least Soderbergh of Soderbergh. If they did an actual miniseries I would probably skip all the Ocean’s movies except the first one. The Turtles movies open up discussions about adapting a work, fan bases, parents and censorship, and how different creative teams see the same characters. It is just a much more interesting commentary option.
Mykle Curton
2023-03-25 17:54:44 +0000 UTCHeartbreaking Oceans keeps beating these
John
2023-03-25 17:45:42 +0000 UTCThe 2007 TMNT films and the Bay produced films are all equally, if not less boring and interesting than Oceans 12. The original films are wacky, but that doesn’t always translate to the best commentary, as they are bad movies with not a lot of context in terms of greater filmmaking culture. If I’m voting for a commentary that is pretty much just a meme, I’m going Jelly every day. What are they going to talk about? Soderbergh, all day! A miniseries isn’t coming anytime soon and this is the most realistic way for discussion on the one of the weirdest mainstream filmmakers working today. The idea of Soderbergh, a classic blank check director, discussions should not be undervalued.
Sam Greer
2023-03-25 17:44:46 +0000 UTCThe Coaxium must be kept at a cool temperature
Bodie Davies
2023-03-25 17:33:04 +0000 UTCSounds drastic!
Michael Conway
2023-03-25 17:27:29 +0000 UTCOur boys from the sewer will have their day in the grimy NY sun
Jed
2023-03-25 17:25:27 +0000 UTCI hope the Ocean following dries up.
Robert Young
2023-03-25 17:24:15 +0000 UTCOCEAN'S = BORING, VOTE TURTLES
Jonathon Pernisek
2023-03-25 17:22:51 +0000 UTCFingers crossed that TMNT is losing only bc the turtleheads partied too hard last night and haven’t woken up yet
Ray Goldberg
2023-03-25 17:22:16 +0000 UTCThe first movie, TMNT is a good if flawed movie, and Out Of The Shadows is a more romp then any of the oceans movies. Turtles has never had as boring or bad of a movie as Oceans 12. I feel like all the Turtles movies will make way more interesting commentaries then anything Oceans. What are they going to talk about… the performances are the exact same across all the movies and they all have the same basic plot.
Mykle Curton
2023-03-25 17:16:15 +0000 UTCRewatched the Ocean's last year, was surprised how bored I was. Did not hold up to my memory, not even Eleven. And the 1960 version is notoriously boring by reputation. TMNT might be bad, but they're interesting bad.
Daniel Martin
2023-03-25 17:16:13 +0000 UTCI feel like people have been campaigning for some type of long form Soderbergh coverage for ages, so the Oceans votes aren't surprising to me at all. My personal bracket had the final 2 as Oceans vs. Godzilla (gone too soon, pour one out).
Tyler Jennings
2023-03-25 17:15:17 +0000 UTCHow is tmnt losing so hard? There’s so much more to talk about
Jay Kay
2023-03-25 17:15:02 +0000 UTCDanny Ocean fan club rise up, it’s turtle soup time.
Sam Greer
2023-03-25 17:13:22 +0000 UTCWhich three are these? Having a tough time coming up with more than one good tmnt, they are all pretty terrible.
Sam Greer
2023-03-25 17:08:15 +0000 UTCA vote for Ocean’s 8 is a vote against the Turtles, easy decision.
Sam Greer
2023-03-25 17:05:51 +0000 UTCI don’t see how TMNT loses to oceans of all options
MailManMatt
2023-03-25 17:03:32 +0000 UTCWhat is wrong with the all of you? There are like 1 1/2 good oceans movies vs 3 good tmnt movies. After this and losing POA last March, I might have to give up on the Patreon
Mykle Curton
2023-03-25 16:56:06 +0000 UTCVoting for TMNT but really only care about Scream
Rudy A Martinez
2023-03-25 16:55:17 +0000 UTCThis March Madness has been rough
HappyCroc
2023-03-25 16:53:30 +0000 UTCA little too raph
Richard S
2023-03-25 16:49:56 +0000 UTCPretty sure Griffin was cut out of Ocean's 8, so you're getting stories either way.
Timothy May
2023-03-25 16:48:32 +0000 UTCCan’t believe we out here voting for Ocean’s 8. Come on y’all.
Spam Boi
2023-03-25 16:42:28 +0000 UTCWhy is Oceans so popular!? I feel insane! There's, like, zero nunchucks in them.
George Dunne
2023-03-25 16:38:47 +0000 UTCGimme some movie star charisma and heists. Ocean’s it is!
Charles
2023-03-25 16:38:46 +0000 UTCTMNT really went the distance in this thing, I’ll give them that.
Anthony Regina
2023-03-25 16:34:24 +0000 UTCWanted those turtle boys to go all the way, but I’ll take Oceans.
Tobey
2023-03-25 16:30:08 +0000 UTCOceans? Seriously?!
Daniel A. Barron
2023-03-25 16:25:39 +0000 UTCWe love it to be April 1805 don’t we folks
Rad Rodge
2023-03-25 16:25:25 +0000 UTCOcean’s movies are fun but they are not radical
Kevin Merryman
2023-03-25 16:25:18 +0000 UTCI’ve been on the wrong side of the bracket almost ever vote since the sweet 16 started. Vote Turtles y’all I wanna hear some audition stories
Philip Munroe
2023-03-25 16:25:05 +0000 UTCLook I’d rather do Turtles than Scream
Rad Rodge
2023-03-25 16:24:47 +0000 UTCHopefully the Turtles fans are just sleeping in. Turtle Power! The animated TMNT is a banger!
James Manning
2023-03-25 16:22:49 +0000 UTCWE NEED THE OOZE
Esteban Minero
2023-03-25 16:20:55 +0000 UTCLet’s dip our toes in the soderwater
Conor Dabler
2023-03-25 16:19:41 +0000 UTCIf I have to watch the Bay TMNT’s I would much prefer it with the dulcet tones of the two friends…and Ben. Bay talk could be interesting!
James Manning
2023-03-25 16:19:02 +0000 UTCAll I ask is that whoever wins this matchup wins the whole thing.
Max
2023-03-25 16:16:26 +0000 UTCT-U-R-T-L-E POWER THATS HOW THE SONG GOES AND YALL ARE MESSING IT UP
Sam Gibson
2023-03-25 16:16:22 +0000 UTCTURTLE POWER
Wade Hollomon
2023-03-25 16:16:15 +0000 UTCI don’t understand you people any more
Joel Cunningham
2023-03-25 16:16:14 +0000 UTCRing a ding ding
Olivia Haidar
2023-03-25 16:16:02 +0000 UTCDo I want to talk 90s Turtles? Absolutely. Do I want to talk Bay Turtles? Absolutely not.
Rory Dunn
2023-03-25 16:15:20 +0000 UTCWho are these maniac ocean stans on here??
Jonathan Popalis
2023-03-25 16:13:15 +0000 UTCCome on y’all, TURTLE POWER
miles bolyard
2023-03-25 16:13:15 +0000 UTCVOTE 4 TURTLES
Sawyer Huelat
2023-03-25 16:12:40 +0000 UTCThere’s a chance they never do Soderbergh proper, sure, but to David’s point the original Ocean’s Eleven may be a chore of a commentary. I think all of the Turtles movies would give great talking points for the guys.
Kawaiidebu
2023-03-25 16:12:18 +0000 UTCThis is the hardest decision of my life
Chad Hotelling
2023-03-25 16:11:59 +0000 UTCSo many herbs voting for Oceans 😂
Jamesdillenbeck
2023-03-25 16:11:25 +0000 UTCTurtles are no match for the Night Fox
Peter Smith
2023-03-25 16:10:50 +0000 UTCNeither, but Oceans doesn’t have Corey Feldman in it so I guess Turtles
CT13
2023-03-25 16:10:50 +0000 UTCOcean's Twelve makes Ocean's Thirteen look like Ocean's Eleven
Noah Mulder
2023-03-25 16:10:43 +0000 UTCCaw Lee Flower 👏👏👏👏👏
Tyler Allard
2023-03-25 16:10:32 +0000 UTC🍕☢️🥷🏾🐢
Manish Agarwal
2023-03-25 16:09:55 +0000 UTCC’mon guys, celebrities on sexy heists Is fun and all, but do they eat pizza and fight ninjas? I don’t think so
Josh Ries
2023-03-25 16:09:45 +0000 UTCTurtles! The biggest grossing indie of its time. The terrible sequels! Toy Corner!
Patrick Smith
2023-03-25 16:09:40 +0000 UTCThought for sure the Heroes in a Half Shell would beat the antiheroes with emotion shells
Jordan Gibson
2023-03-25 16:09:22 +0000 UTCCowabummer
Peter M
2023-03-25 16:09:11 +0000 UTCTurtles are more fun y'all!
Lionel Olivares
2023-03-25 16:07:04 +0000 UTCT-U-R-T-L-E POWER
RJ Burchatz
2023-03-25 16:05:35 +0000 UTCLU-CKY LO-GAN 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Justin Davila
2023-03-25 16:05:31 +0000 UTCI. LIKE. TURTLES.
outb0undflight
2023-03-25 16:04:57 +0000 UTCHappy Ocean's Are Now Battlefields Day
Kyle Faber
2023-03-25 16:03:23 +0000 UTC