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MARCH MADNESS 2023 - Day 25

Congratulations to SCREAM, which brutally murdered all four Beatles yesterday, including the two who were already dead.

Here is a look at the franchises still in the running as we reach the Elite Eight:


Up today - OCEAN’S vs. TURTLES.

“Finding Nemo” taught us that you can find Turtles in the Ocean, but these Turtles probably feel more comfortable in the city sewers. Also these Oceans aren’t wet per se, even though they’re slick.

ANYWAY.

With the Ocean's franchise, we'd get 5 films:

- Ocean's 11 (1960)

- Ocean's Eleven (2001)

- Ocean's Twelve (2004)

- Ocean's Thirteen (2007)

- Ocean's 8 (2018)

With TMNT, we’d do 6 films - the original live action ones, the Michael Bay-produced reboots, and the animated feature:

TBD on how / if we cover the upcoming animated feature, which looks great.

So - who will be the first franchise to advance to the Final Four?

Comments

Yeah but the 2007 cast was insane. Chris evans. Lawrence fishborne. Sarah Michelle gellar. Patrick Stewart. Zhang ziyi. Plus voice over legends! And also ninja rap!

Chris Lynch

But what if they went under water and frustrated everyone while they diffused bombs

Chris Lynch

You sound hurt. I hope you heal. And get an ice cream. Plenty to talk about. But if I would rather take Han eating snacks over rusty ryan any day

Chris Lynch

Obviously this isn’t about grown ups. That’s hardly a franchise. This is about turtle power

Chris Lynch

Same. The commenTary would be so good. The dossier alone. Chris evans as Cary jones!?

Chris Lynch

Are there 11 oceans tho?

Chris Lynch

Oceans 11 gave the turtles a jose canseco bat. And I didn’t pay money for this.

Chris Lynch

This is totally not radical, dude

Tyler Duggan

This Sucks

Chris Lynch

I demand to be the guest if Ocean’s wins it all, I love those fuckin movies

ALYSSA

Recount !

Paul Munoz

You people let TMNT beat The Exorcist for this? Shame.

FreakaJebus

How dare you all. You deny me my turts.

Michael Loiacono

Do people realize they’re voting for the heist movies and not actual oceans

Game That Tune

Awful opinion

John Boy

This is ridiculous!

Alan Carroll

First the SNL upset and now this. I just want a silly little patreon series.

Liam

Didn't realize most Blankies are 3 years old. Grow up kids, it's a podcast contest

Trevor Talley

Naqoyqatsi all over again

Universal Single Payer

Yikes at all of this

Zachary Strebeck

Very disappointing results, Blankies. Y’all keep fucking up

Jeremy Jurgens

They probably did that because they didn’t really wanna cover the scorpion king after being pummeled to death by mummy 2 and 3…

Kevin Love Hewitt

This should not be close. TMNT is perfect Ben fodder

Jared V. Archuleta

I wanted to hear Ben talk about ooze

andy

Thank god the turtles finally got taken out. Other than some great 90s FX, ya’ll do realize that those movies are pure garbage, right? We would get a great 45 minute discussion about the turtle costumes during the 1st movie…and then what? What is there to talk about? WHO is there to talk about? Good riddance.

CT

Gnashing teeth, wringing hands, howling

Beef Steak Tomato

But what if the Turtles went back in time?

Devin

Love and voted for oceans. That said, if TMNT wins, that new movie will be out by the time they do/ finish the series probably... would they cover it?

Michael Cuculich

Lotta weird comments here. Ocean's rules, so much overreacting

Darren Williams

Jesus Christ what is going on here

Evelyn Chavanne

Are we really choosing smarmy Brad Pitt not-really-acting over TMNT and Jim Henson Creature Studio!?

Tyler Duggan

Fwiw Ocean's has been my top pick in the bracket since the beginning, they're like my ultimate comfort movies, just good vibes. Can't speak for anyone else but I'd be voting for them even if Turtles hadn't taken out Pazuzu (Exorcist was my #2 tho)

Philip M Bernstein

I mean the comment was a joke to begin with, I do not expect them to do anything of the sort. But the Scorpion King also had something like 1000 more votes and ~100 people blowing off steam in the comments is exactly what shifted it then. Again, it’s not going to happen here.

Mike Dickson

Well, currently about 1300 more people have voted for Ocean's than Turtles so I would be very surprised if they called an audible based on ~100 people blowing off steam in the comments.

Philip M Bernstein

12 is trying very hard. Also, Tom of celebrity talk

Kevin Love Hewitt

It's so weird, I had no idea there was an anti-Ocean's contingent at all until today. They're charming!

Philip M Bernstein

Bye 👋

Kevin Love Hewitt

Some of us are tired of watching bad movies!

Kevin Love Hewitt

11>12>13

Kevin Love Hewitt

It wasn’t March Madness so it is a little different. But it was deciding whether to cover Body Bags or Scorpion King as the next Patreon episode. The votes went for Scorpion King but because most of the comments were loudly supportive of Body Bags instead they talked about it for most of the episode (and said the reason was because of the loudness of the comments)

Mike Dickson

OCEAN'S HATE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE

Alex Papaioannou

They advanced the loser because more people were talking about them in the comments before? When?

Philip M Bernstein

These numbers are a tragedy. TMNT has so much good fodder to discuss over decades of pop culture

Jon Williams

Thats it... cancelling Patreon

Jacob Tasoulas

COWABUMMER

Spencer Asmann

I’m really pulling for scream myself and didn’t really expect turtles to get this far. I’m just even more in shock that oceans is getting so many votes. I always thought of them as fun but forgettable.

Aaron Farrell

Shell shocked!

Stephen Michalowicz

For those confused: the Oceans movies are good and have all the pretty boys in them Also they allow for discussion of Sodie and historicizing the movie star Also 12 is really weird and 13 has Al Pacino

Ben Bequette

Cab we please not spend months talking about Brad Pitt? I just don't have the energy for his recent doh shit behavior

Stephen Blakley

Who is out here voting for Ocean’s? Hopefully the gang follows past precedence and advances the group everyone in the comments is talking about rather than the actual vote winner since they’ve done it before.

Mike Dickson

I think turtle supremacy is just highly overstated and has less appeal for more ambivalent votes. It would be pretty surprising if it could pull off a win against a heavy hitter like Scream.

Sam Greer

In a perfect world we’d be just in time for oceans 14, where the two crews join forces.

Jack o Diamonds

In this case, agree to disagree, but I’m glad you got something out of these movies that I didn’t. Best of luck in your future turtle related endeavors.

Sam Greer

Toughest choice yet for the Patreon bracket!

Justin Markey-Thomas

Choose turtle power you cowards

Erin

Is oceans that popular? Or is this a if I can’t be happy no one can?

Aaron Farrell

I have a feeling Ocean is going to win it all and then people are going to complain that the commentaries feel like a slog because the movies are all basically the same in terms of plot and performance but with diminishing effort.

Matthew Duane

How does OCEAN'S keep cleaning up?! Snooze!

Andrew Carden

Too much bossa nova last night. Just voted! 🤙

Chris Lynch

hoping for Ocean’s but also wanting main feed Soderbergh… which will probably never happen… so i’m hoping Ocean’s takes it all

Patrick Orr

No I want turtles vs ghostface!

Chris Lynch

And when there’s an obvious interest in something it can influence the subsequent Patreon schedule. If one of the shorter series wins they might still cover it in time for the new movie!

ipsydipsy

I was upset about the way this was going, but knowing it’s partially motivated by spite weirdly makes me feel better about it.

Robert Young

Hey Turtles fans, it’s time to get fucked for causing us to miss out on Schrader stories.

Matthew Chmiel

This is an outrage

Josh Rioux

Oceans v Scream final round: whoever loses, we win

Selmon Rafey

The first turtles movie is an easy top 10 comic book movie. Dark, emotional, and a study of maturing into adults as brothers. The farm house sequence alone is better than anything in Oceans. I am all for Soderbergh miniseries but the Oceans movies are the least Soderbergh of Soderbergh. If they did an actual miniseries I would probably skip all the Ocean’s movies except the first one. The Turtles movies open up discussions about adapting a work, fan bases, parents and censorship, and how different creative teams see the same characters. It is just a much more interesting commentary option.

Mykle Curton

Heartbreaking Oceans keeps beating these

John

The 2007 TMNT films and the Bay produced films are all equally, if not less boring and interesting than Oceans 12. The original films are wacky, but that doesn’t always translate to the best commentary, as they are bad movies with not a lot of context in terms of greater filmmaking culture. If I’m voting for a commentary that is pretty much just a meme, I’m going Jelly every day. What are they going to talk about? Soderbergh, all day! A miniseries isn’t coming anytime soon and this is the most realistic way for discussion on the one of the weirdest mainstream filmmakers working today. The idea of Soderbergh, a classic blank check director, discussions should not be undervalued.

Sam Greer

The Coaxium must be kept at a cool temperature

Bodie Davies

Sounds drastic!

Michael Conway

Our boys from the sewer will have their day in the grimy NY sun

Jed

I hope the Ocean following dries up.

Robert Young

OCEAN'S = BORING, VOTE TURTLES

Jonathon Pernisek

Fingers crossed that TMNT is losing only bc the turtleheads partied too hard last night and haven’t woken up yet

Ray Goldberg

The first movie, TMNT is a good if flawed movie, and Out Of The Shadows is a more romp then any of the oceans movies. Turtles has never had as boring or bad of a movie as Oceans 12. I feel like all the Turtles movies will make way more interesting commentaries then anything Oceans. What are they going to talk about… the performances are the exact same across all the movies and they all have the same basic plot.

Mykle Curton

Rewatched the Ocean's last year, was surprised how bored I was. Did not hold up to my memory, not even Eleven. And the 1960 version is notoriously boring by reputation. TMNT might be bad, but they're interesting bad.

Daniel Martin

I feel like people have been campaigning for some type of long form Soderbergh coverage for ages, so the Oceans votes aren't surprising to me at all. My personal bracket had the final 2 as Oceans vs. Godzilla (gone too soon, pour one out).

Tyler Jennings

How is tmnt losing so hard? There’s so much more to talk about

Jay Kay

Danny Ocean fan club rise up, it’s turtle soup time.

Sam Greer

Which three are these? Having a tough time coming up with more than one good tmnt, they are all pretty terrible.

Sam Greer

A vote for Ocean’s 8 is a vote against the Turtles, easy decision.

Sam Greer

I don’t see how TMNT loses to oceans of all options

MailManMatt

What is wrong with the all of you? There are like 1 1/2 good oceans movies vs 3 good tmnt movies. After this and losing POA last March, I might have to give up on the Patreon

Mykle Curton

Voting for TMNT but really only care about Scream

Rudy A Martinez

This March Madness has been rough

HappyCroc

A little too raph

Richard S

Pretty sure Griffin was cut out of Ocean's 8, so you're getting stories either way.

Timothy May

Can’t believe we out here voting for Ocean’s 8. Come on y’all.

Spam Boi

Why is Oceans so popular!? I feel insane! There's, like, zero nunchucks in them.

George Dunne

Gimme some movie star charisma and heists. Ocean’s it is!

Charles

TMNT really went the distance in this thing, I’ll give them that.

Anthony Regina

Wanted those turtle boys to go all the way, but I’ll take Oceans.

Tobey

Oceans? Seriously?!

Daniel A. Barron

We love it to be April 1805 don’t we folks

Rad Rodge

Ocean’s movies are fun but they are not radical

Kevin Merryman

I’ve been on the wrong side of the bracket almost ever vote since the sweet 16 started. Vote Turtles y’all I wanna hear some audition stories

Philip Munroe

Look I’d rather do Turtles than Scream

Rad Rodge

Hopefully the Turtles fans are just sleeping in. Turtle Power! The animated TMNT is a banger!

James Manning

WE NEED THE OOZE

Esteban Minero

Let’s dip our toes in the soderwater

Conor Dabler

If I have to watch the Bay TMNT’s I would much prefer it with the dulcet tones of the two friends…and Ben. Bay talk could be interesting!

James Manning

All I ask is that whoever wins this matchup wins the whole thing.

Max

T-U-R-T-L-E POWER THATS HOW THE SONG GOES AND YALL ARE MESSING IT UP

Sam Gibson

TURTLE POWER

Wade Hollomon

I don’t understand you people any more

Joel Cunningham

Ring a ding ding

Olivia Haidar

Do I want to talk 90s Turtles? Absolutely. Do I want to talk Bay Turtles? Absolutely not.

Rory Dunn

Who are these maniac ocean stans on here??

Jonathan Popalis

Come on y’all, TURTLE POWER

miles bolyard

VOTE 4 TURTLES

Sawyer Huelat

There’s a chance they never do Soderbergh proper, sure, but to David’s point the original Ocean’s Eleven may be a chore of a commentary. I think all of the Turtles movies would give great talking points for the guys.

Kawaiidebu

This is the hardest decision of my life

Chad Hotelling

So many herbs voting for Oceans 😂

Jamesdillenbeck

Turtles are no match for the Night Fox

Peter Smith

Neither, but Oceans doesn’t have Corey Feldman in it so I guess Turtles

CT13

Ocean's Twelve makes Ocean's Thirteen look like Ocean's Eleven

Noah Mulder

Caw Lee Flower 👏👏👏👏👏

Tyler Allard

🍕☢️🥷🏾🐢

Manish Agarwal

C’mon guys, celebrities on sexy heists Is fun and all, but do they eat pizza and fight ninjas? I don’t think so

Josh Ries

Turtles! The biggest grossing indie of its time. The terrible sequels! Toy Corner!

Patrick Smith

Thought for sure the Heroes in a Half Shell would beat the antiheroes with emotion shells

Jordan Gibson

Cowabummer

Peter M

Turtles are more fun y'all!

Lionel Olivares

T-U-R-T-L-E POWER

RJ Burchatz

LU-CKY LO-GAN 👏👏👏👏👏👏

Justin Davila

I. LIKE. TURTLES.

outb0undflight

Happy Ocean's Are Now Battlefields Day

Kyle Faber


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