MARCH MADNESS 2023 - Day 24
Added 2023-03-24 16:00:08 +0000 UTCHahahahaha MORTAL KOMBAT WINS! FINISH HIM! And by “him,” we mean Larry the Cable Guy as that hillbilly tow truck.
In our last Sweet Sixteen franchise matchup, it’s the Four Lads from Liverpool against Billy Loomis et al.
It’s THE BEATLES vs. SCREAM.
With THE BEATLES, we’d cover their 4 musicals:
- A Hard Day’s Night (1964)
- Help! (1965)
- Magical Mystery Tour (1967)
- Yellow Submarine (1968)
Get Back (2021) is, unfortunately, too long for us to do as a commentary. We could possibly do a non-commentary episode on that if they win the whole thing.
With SCREAM, we’d cover the 6 franchise installments:
- Scream (1996)
- Scream 2 (1997)
- Scream 3 (2000)
- Scream 4 (2011)
- Scream (2022)
- Scream VI (2023)
So - “Help!”? or “HELP I AM BEING STABBED BY GHOSTFACE!!”?
Comments
I’ll give you all that with the first two Screams!
Kevin Love Hewitt
2023-03-25 18:33:25 +0000 UTC👑 Timothy making a claim then backing it up with insight. The kind of insight you won’t see on Screams 4-6.
Kevin Love Hewitt
2023-03-25 18:31:53 +0000 UTCRichard Lester is a major director who practically created (or at least popularized) the language of music videos. It borrowed from the French New Wave and applied those techniques to a movie starring what was then thought of as a passing teenage fad, thus putting them in front of very mainstream audiences. Not sure why this is controversial? I would never say Scream isn't important (it's great!), just that the series falls off a cliff after the second one and the series would be boring.
Timothy May
2023-03-25 17:19:29 +0000 UTCLol no
Anthony Regina
2023-03-25 17:07:21 +0000 UTC"A Hard Day's Night is one of the most significant movies ever made from a film language point of view" god I hope this is a bit
Percy Leopold Cromwell
2023-03-25 16:12:02 +0000 UTCThey'll probably post one with the start of the new round today
Parker Suczynski
2023-03-25 14:13:30 +0000 UTCThere are people commenting here who weren’t paying attention to horror in the mid 1990s. If you just like Beatles movies more, god bless and definitely hear that opinion. However, in 1997, Horror was shit. There were some fun movies here and there but Scream had a Halloween-ish (not comparing the two, not my argument) like impact on the horror genre. It reinvigorated horror. I f*ckin love the Beatles but, as a film franchise, Scream has not made a bad movie and is far more impactful to movies going forward, imo.
Wayne Telford
2023-03-25 13:29:06 +0000 UTCThis is the only argument I would take in this argument. Patrick Bromley and Heather Wixson are finishing up a complete dive into Craven. On F This Movie stream. Craven for Craven. Even the TV movies. Pretty fun listen if you love Wes
Wayne Telford
2023-03-25 13:22:57 +0000 UTCRiding Scream until it’s end!
Wayne Telford
2023-03-25 13:19:40 +0000 UTCYeah we really need to get out of the late 90s/early 2000s. Becoming a problem with March Madness.
Chris Fyvie
2023-03-25 10:03:02 +0000 UTCSure, it's interesting through Scream 3, I suppose (though the reclamation of tha t movie baffles me). The last three are real bottom of the barrel dreck, though, and their "insights" into modern horror trends are very surface level. The culture of the late 90s/early 00s has been quite thoroughly discussed on this show. I suppose not from a horror angle, but the boys don't care that much about horror, so I don't anticipate very deep conversations, especially since one of them has never seen the movies before.
Timothy May
2023-03-25 09:39:12 +0000 UTCthere's absolutely loads of contexts to the scream series, they're so meta that not discussing Craven's experiences in making the films (which form the basis of Scream 3) would be silly. Ripe for chat about all sorts given how central to culture the Screams are
Danny K
2023-03-25 09:33:36 +0000 UTCThere hasn't been a good Scream movie since 1997. This will be a deeply boring series. Very little creative team overturn, same basic formula every time. Griffin hasn't seen them, so there'll be a lot or reacting as opposed to insight, a la the Star Trek series. A Hard Day's Night is one of the most significant movies ever made from a film language point of view, and is also a ton of goofy fun. And Yellow Submarine is built for this format.
Timothy May
2023-03-25 09:24:46 +0000 UTCInsane that this was a matchup
Vegan Police
2023-03-25 06:59:10 +0000 UTCThe WilliamSons&Daughters unite!
Percy Leopold Cromwell
2023-03-25 05:43:43 +0000 UTCIt's kind of like Seinfeld. Prett basic now but at the time like nothing other. Scream kicked off two huge trends: pop cultural aware meta commentary and the Kevin Williamson era. Scream was the first horror movie to acknowledge the existence of horror movies which at the time was extremely refreshing and especially appealing to gen x cynicism. As for the writer,Kevin Williamson, he went on to make I know what you did last summer and then more importantly Dawon's Creek. This was the mold that all CW shows for decades would follow. His influence is all over late 90s early 2000s pop culture and Scream kicked it all off. Not to mention the fact that horror was on its way out and Scream brought the genre back into not only the mainstream but got it a bit of respect. Halloween was on the path of direct to VHS but its feature in Scream renewed its interest and Kevin Williamson even went on to write the treatment for H20. Sorry for the long ramble, but the short version is it's up there with Halloween and Psycho as huge milestones of innovation for the slasher genre.
Percy Leopold Cromwell
2023-03-25 05:42:29 +0000 UTCI’m just adding to the pile at this point, love their music f$$$ the movies
EvanEightNine !
2023-03-25 05:01:46 +0000 UTCI do think it helps if you were around when the original came out. I generally am not a fan of slashers and I have seen all 6 of these for some reason. They're real dumb fun.
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-25 04:43:06 +0000 UTCSCREAMSWEEP
Kat White
2023-03-25 04:13:07 +0000 UTCI've always said Ben look very clean!
The Duke of Nebraska
2023-03-24 23:25:33 +0000 UTCIs Scream a "you had to be there" thing? Cause I was born the same year as scream 3 and I really just don't understand the appeal of this franchise (no shade, of course)
The Duke of Nebraska
2023-03-24 23:24:52 +0000 UTCYELLOW. SUB. MARINE.
bug
2023-03-24 21:51:33 +0000 UTCCan anything beat Police Story?
Bill
2023-03-24 21:26:53 +0000 UTCThe Beatles would have more juice with me if you also included an entire episode talking about the Beatles sequence in Walk Hard
JB
2023-03-24 21:26:23 +0000 UTCScream 3 makes scream 4 look like scream 6
JB
2023-03-24 21:25:16 +0000 UTCHmmmm
Rad Rodge
2023-03-24 21:06:22 +0000 UTCand they're all GREAT! amirite?
Brynndiana Jones
2023-03-24 20:45:12 +0000 UTCYou said it, Skimbleshanks
Rad Rodge
2023-03-24 20:26:45 +0000 UTC100%, Richard Lester as inventor of the music video is just irresistible
Rad Rodge
2023-03-24 20:26:24 +0000 UTCThis would be so many fricken Scream movies
Rad Rodge
2023-03-24 20:24:44 +0000 UTCSheesh this is not very fab
Rad Rodge
2023-03-24 20:24:12 +0000 UTCWhat is interesting about SCREAM that the movies don’t say about themselves, mostly as direct dialogue?
John Halski
2023-03-24 19:47:41 +0000 UTCHelp! the Beatles
Tom
2023-03-24 19:39:34 +0000 UTCI like SCREAM, but I want a Wes miniseries on the main feed and I don’t want to potentially jeopardize that. So, Beatles!
Alan Howell
2023-03-24 19:26:36 +0000 UTCExcept for some fools!!
Anthony Regina
2023-03-24 19:20:22 +0000 UTCAw, man.
Tobey
2023-03-24 19:07:33 +0000 UTCBen doing psychedelics during a Yellow Submarine episode is an easy layup
Charles
2023-03-24 18:21:36 +0000 UTCSeems like an easy choice, no offense to the Beatles.
Jordan Coleman
2023-03-24 18:08:05 +0000 UTCThe question is… can SCREAM beat MORTAL KOMBAT. The answer is definitely yes. wHaT’S yOUr fAvORitE scArY mOviE!?
Tyler Duggan
2023-03-24 18:04:20 +0000 UTCRip Beatles: Get Back
LT
2023-03-24 17:45:31 +0000 UTCScream needs to win the thing !!
Rudy A Martinez
2023-03-24 17:38:07 +0000 UTCGive me an Across the Universe ep!
Emily Parker
2023-03-24 17:33:58 +0000 UTCScream is awesome but would completely erase any chance of Wes getting covered on main feed. With all the recent Cillian love, not doing Red Eye would be a crime. Beatles it is!
Clay Ammentorp
2023-03-24 17:31:38 +0000 UTCAll my favorite remaining picks are on one side of the bracket, not too excited by Jelly, Police Story, TMNT or Oceans
CT13
2023-03-24 17:30:17 +0000 UTCAm I gonna have to cancel my Patreon?
Chuck Nipper
2023-03-24 17:25:15 +0000 UTCI am very disappointed in all of you.
HappyCroc
2023-03-24 17:18:23 +0000 UTCIt's easily the favourite
HappyCroc
2023-03-24 17:17:08 +0000 UTCTwist and SCREAM
Javier Alcácer
2023-03-24 17:15:21 +0000 UTCThe Beatles are great and their movies are very fun, but Scream, a nearly perfect horror series, came out at the perfect time for me in high school and it has been a deep love of mine ever since. I just love how it’s always found an interesting way to satirize the zeitgeist of horror at whatever particular moment it’s released in.
Anthony Regina
2023-03-24 17:15:21 +0000 UTCThinking about how many different actors they could cover with the Scream series, not to mention Wes Craven, since we will never get a Craven series on main. Also, Griff hasn't seen the sequels and there's mad surprises for him! Seems like a no brainer, it would be a banger series.
Spam Boi
2023-03-24 16:56:33 +0000 UTCI think Scream could run the table, and I'm so excited about it
Michael Hollenbeck
2023-03-24 16:53:39 +0000 UTCI mean Yesterday will be covered on the main feed.
Collin Odell
2023-03-24 16:49:41 +0000 UTCScream is def making it to the finals.
Hayley
2023-03-24 16:49:27 +0000 UTCEasy vote. With two Scream movies in about a year with many of my preferred movie podcasts covering them, I am thoroughly sick of listening to people talk about Scream movies.
Alex Stroup
2023-03-24 16:48:58 +0000 UTCwould be very fun to have the boys watch Beatles movies, love when Ben gets into his music brain
Patrick Orr
2023-03-24 16:44:01 +0000 UTCI don't want to rock the boat, but the Beatles music is good. Also though, thought I wasn't rocking when I say Beatles movies bad.
colin p clune
2023-03-24 16:41:43 +0000 UTCThe Beetos
Drew Scheid
2023-03-24 16:39:56 +0000 UTCI need to hear David's thoughts on Scream 3 since he goes so hard for it.
Dan H.
2023-03-24 16:39:07 +0000 UTCIs there an updated patreon bracket floating around somewhere?
Mitchell Daun
2023-03-24 16:37:37 +0000 UTCShould have included Yesterday (2019) and John and Yoko: A Love Story (1985), with Peter Capaldi as George Harrison
Bill Sweet
2023-03-24 16:36:56 +0000 UTCSlice & Dice those Liverpool lads.
RJ Burchatz
2023-03-24 16:34:28 +0000 UTCWhat! Who care about scream! I WANNA POD YOUR CAST!
Jon Tiberious
2023-03-24 16:34:11 +0000 UTCbeep beep mm beep beep, yeah
Judson Greene
2023-03-24 16:31:21 +0000 UTCGoo goo g'joob
JT Sitko
2023-03-24 16:30:26 +0000 UTCBEATLEMANIA
Charles
2023-03-24 16:28:38 +0000 UTCEspecially #4.
Mike Uehlein
2023-03-24 16:26:28 +0000 UTCCMON LADS!!
Sofia Car
2023-03-24 16:24:09 +0000 UTCGod, what’s the over under on Griff’s Wes Craven audition story if we get Scream? 47?
Kevin Fennell
2023-03-24 16:23:24 +0000 UTCShame. Would be amazing to hear them talk about Yellow Submarine. Besides, six slasher movies in a row would get old fast
Nick Domino
2023-03-24 16:22:17 +0000 UTCScream is pretty boring but the people have spoken.....
Martin Schneider
2023-03-24 16:21:15 +0000 UTCI mean, we're all just agreeing that Scream should win this, right?
jscro
2023-03-24 16:21:09 +0000 UTCPersonally looking forward to Griffin's cold reacts to the Scream cold opens.
Daniel A. Barron
2023-03-24 16:20:53 +0000 UTCHelp! We need somebody, Help! And I mean anybody, Help! Y'know they need some votes, 🎵Beeeeaaaaaatles🎵
Douglas Wykstra
2023-03-24 16:20:31 +0000 UTC😱😱😱😱😱
ChewyWalrus
2023-03-24 16:19:02 +0000 UTCBeatles are the best band ever, and have some of the kookiest films from a band ever
Jason Howard
2023-03-24 16:18:45 +0000 UTCMan, I hope they do Beatles anyway sometime.
Gerry Canavan
2023-03-24 16:17:42 +0000 UTCBuncha blue meanies voting on this
Skimbleshanks The Railway Cat
2023-03-24 16:16:37 +0000 UTCI have hard time not seeing it being Ocean's vs Scream in the finals of this. Both would be perfect for a Blank Check Patreon commentary series
Jonah Kaufman
2023-03-24 16:15:59 +0000 UTCI really hope Scream wins the whole thing. Would be a fantastic series I think
Jack LaMotte
2023-03-24 16:15:20 +0000 UTCI know Scream is going to probably win the whole thing, but I wanna make the case for the lads because a) it's the most interesting part of Richard Lester's career (with the exception of the first Superman), and it's probably the closest we'll ever get to a miniseries on him; and b) they're super important movies in both film and music industry history - they practically invented the music video! Loads of wacky and experimental stuff across only four movies, whereas Scream is going to be pretty samey to watch all back-to-back. (Also PS Get Back should be a Peter Jackson episode if/when that ever happens.)
elkweed
2023-03-24 16:15:18 +0000 UTCY'all, those four Beatles movies are BIZARRE and totally distinct from each other. You're telling me you DON'T want to hear Ben grapple with the rise of hippie culture on mic over that series??
Joseph
2023-03-24 16:14:32 +0000 UTCI just saw Scream VI yesterday and I think I've never seen a more convoluted reveal in my life
Will Redmond
2023-03-24 16:13:30 +0000 UTCScream is so perfect for BC. Lots of context and Hollywood talk in the movies themselves. And you know Griffin would be a big Scream 3 defender
Benjamin Haworth
2023-03-24 16:13:25 +0000 UTCScream, baby. Give me that pop horror slop, pour it into my gullet. And the two Beatles movies I've seen are borderline unwatchable if you're not a deep cut Beatles fan, imo.
Will Jacobson
2023-03-24 16:12:14 +0000 UTCHey Jude, do you like scary movies?
Matt Vaughan
2023-03-24 16:12:05 +0000 UTCI HAVE to hear griffin's blind reacts to who the killers are
Jack Barr
2023-03-24 16:11:57 +0000 UTCTruly every matchup is unpredictable and hilarious
Jack Barr
2023-03-24 16:11:36 +0000 UTCI’m actually pretty into the idea of doing sceam, especially if they’re new to griffin
Conor Dabler
2023-03-24 16:10:29 +0000 UTCThe Beatles are the most pver discussed pop culture group ever. No thanks!
Rory Dunn
2023-03-24 16:10:07 +0000 UTCBefore there were Two Friends… there were Four Lovable Lads from Liverpool
TV's Kevin Lanigan
2023-03-24 16:09:46 +0000 UTCPlease Beatles it's so weird and fun!!!
corndair
2023-03-24 16:09:40 +0000 UTCBobby Z's I Wanna Hold Your Hand was all the Beatles I need on Blank Check
Sarah Farrell
2023-03-24 16:07:37 +0000 UTCI love A Hard Day's Night, but I've never seen the others. Would love to hear the friends talk about The Beatles crossing over into the movies!
Harry Blackwood
2023-03-24 16:07:24 +0000 UTCGhostface killed John Lennon.
Casper Koopman
2023-03-24 16:07:20 +0000 UTCToo much scream recently. It's time to be Dicks.
zack albun
2023-03-24 16:07:15 +0000 UTCI'm pretty Screamed out. I hate the recent films and everyone has talked them to death. Let's watch Magical Mystery Tour with Ben.
Adam
2023-03-24 16:06:59 +0000 UTCI'm only voting for Scream because the Beatles have no chance
Christian Santos
2023-03-24 16:06:10 +0000 UTCBeatles never had a chance
Jake Nolan
2023-03-24 16:05:21 +0000 UTCCorrect I wanna see girls scream at Ghostface not some English dweebs
simon d higgins
2023-03-24 16:03:50 +0000 UTCHearing fan girls scream < Hearing horror screams
Luke West
2023-03-24 16:01:57 +0000 UTC
