Zach Gets Deep... Dropouts #214

I can see what you mean but do u think its possible both atmospheres to? Like we dont everything that goes on off camera. And i think have two different vibes to the podcast isnt so bad since people can be like nothing bothers me and something is happening inside i think seperating everything isnt necessary since the point of this was to seek if needed you know. Sorry for the late comment barely saw the episode

Eddie Estrella

Great episode. 💯

Brian Sanchez

Our heroes 🦸 💖

Kylie Ketterman

Today I discovered, going up water slide obstacle course jumpy houses…. That’s my hit the gym 3x6days a week reason….. and getting out of pools trying to pull out from the side. Bye 👋

Yaryzett

He played it off lol he was nice and chatted for a little bit

Kaylee Kelly

Would love to see a collab with dr K from healthygamergg

Alexandros Dellios

First of all, thank you for your vulnerability and humility. Zach and I should be friends because the commonality in his feelings with my own are scary. I think adulthood makes you question a LOT, what is the point? Why are we here? What’s my purpose? When in reality, NO ONE KNOWS. We are all doing life for the first time, and learning and growing everyday. But when you’re a deep feeler, or emotional intelligence is at our level, it’s easy to detach from it all and feel like life is moving while you’re watching it. Being overly aware of our emotions, others emotions, and how we affect those things can bring a sense of mundane feeling. As if you’re a puppet master, in a way. But with non-malicious intent so you’re stuck feeling indifferent? I understand this all too well and I pray for a deeper understanding of joy and contentment and release of control over these things for you Zach. It’s a hard battle, but it’s not our battle to fight. I believe everything happens for a reason, and that our paths are already paved. So a “solution” I’ve found has been to put myself in situations where I feel safe enough to FEEL all the feels, and to let myself as whatever is going to happen, is going to happen regardless of my actions or next steps. I hope this gets to you!! It’s all love over here.

Lexi Bacon

glad to know i’m a triangle of sadness😂😭😭

amelia lane

I love the dynamic of Zack, Skylar, Jared, and Alyssa. So much fun, and lots of laughs! Alyssa seems to be getting a little more confident and embracing her wonderfulness, which is awesome to see! I appreciate Zach being willing to be open and share his heart with everyone, and I've been able to relate with what he was saying so much in the past.

Kayla Hewitt

Thanks for being vulnerable Zach!

McKenna

Zach have you ever tried getting your blood tested and maybe a brain scan and things? A surprising amount of mental health things can stem from brain chemistry being off or your body missing something it needs, also highly processed foods cause inflammation and can make things worse.

Mya Perrenoud

This also goes along with imposter syndrome. I've found that a lot of men feel this way within themselves and can't figure out the why or where it came from. Especially modern men, I think without realizing it Zach feels like he lacks a purpose in the big picture- which can take away from everyday life as it sits in the back of your mind.

Darlene Talbott

Your vulnerability means so much Zach, I hope you know how much your followers appreciate you. I hope you can think about us all even in your darkest hours and see some light

Emily Rutan

i think Zach needs to look into derealisation/depersonalization

kyrsten

30 so im an old fart compared to people here, they just mention it in a lot of eps. Almost like they're trying to tell him but not telling him... I've seen it happen but it's also a comedy podcast so it might be a bit 🤷‍♂️

Jon

You must be young

RainingInReverse

Im pretty sure this better help portion was tapped before Tara left so that might be the reason it's not included.

Janelle Rebovich

He actually did respond and said why Tara left in a recent episode. He also said how much he’s happy for her. Maybe watch the other episodes before throwing out accusations.

Kennedy Collier

She, Tara, posted a video on her YT. and they spoke about it, briefly, on a pod. No drama. She’s booked and busy and wants to just do YouTube like she always planned. The podcast was a lil side quest that just got to be too much.

Teeeeenz

Carson

Probably my fav episode!

Breanna Gordo

Is Jared an alcoholic now? All I ever hear is that he drinks a lot

Jon

Just a friendly suggestion, maybe it is best to keep the health talk to yourselves, as the constant pushback on health to Alyssa can be really damaging even with no ill intent. It’s also a hard watch and showing a hard ass side to the guys on the pod that is coming off poorly imo. Health topics can be really sensitive to listen to and watch when it’s critiquing a girl on it so it feels like a personal topic versus a podcast topic.

Lexi Bacon

I worked at a taco bell for 5 years, and we were right off the highway from Ohio to Indiana so we got a lot of truckers. They would always try walking up because their semi wouldn’t fit and I always felt bad for denying them service after lobby was closed but it was definitely a safety hazard.

Bri

Hearing men open up is really refreshing.

Faith

I think this is great advice! Being true to yourself and listening to what you actually want in life is a great first step in feeling fulfilled. Also, I love that you pointed out that pushing down the bad feelings can eventually lead to inhibiting all feelings. I could be totally wrong, but from what he’s expressed online, if he worked on letting himself be vulnerable and sharing the uncomfortable emotions with those he loves, he might have an easier time feeling the more joyous emotions.

Toni Aviles

Loved the second part Zach thanks for sharing

Marco

He said the light switch flicked around 19, before moving to LA and that lifestyle. Therefore, there’s not enough background information. That’s for him and his therapist. Not that some of your points aren’t valid, but it’s oversimplifying what could be a complex situation.

Dean Matthew

Thanks for sharing Zach!! As someone who has been in therapy and has had tremendous difficulty in trusting others enough to be vulnerable, I know it’s no easy feat. I think there’s a lot more to unravel with what you’ve shared, and I’m hoping you continue to figure that piece out because you deserve to feel joy🩷

Javiera

Yea except really open up to someone for the first time no cause of who he was I didn’t really know bout the podcast

Cassi Steinbeisser

Or maybe that’s his secret ploy all along….

Javiera

This may not be wanted advice, so please feel free to disregard, but it seems like you have maybe pushed down certain aspects of yourself in order to stay safe in whatever context that may be, and over time this has caused you to do things that maybe aren’t actually aligned with you like going out or whatever you may be doing that you don’t actually even like. If you pretend the bad feelings aren’t there for long enough then eventually the good ones won’t be able to come out either. My advice would be to be radically authentic. I know that can be hard, especially in a world where you may need to adapt behaviors or do things to move forward with your goals- and also being a highly empathetic person it can feel like masking/making others comfortable in exchange for your authentic expression is right- but be true to yourself in more situations… doesn’t have to be all at once, small changes matter, but radical authenticity and being present in the moment are key 💓

Christina

Got catfished by a fake Zach but eh got me to join the patreon

Cassi Steinbeisser

I ask this every week Skyler what watch are you wearing

J

Seems like zach is very self aware

Ynk25

Loved the first half of the episode as always. So glad Alyssa’s getting more comfortable talking and huge kudos to Zach for being so open and vulnerable, it’s not an easy thing to do especially on the internet

Adi

I’ve been in therapy for months now and it’s genuinely saved me even though there’s a lot I haven’t quite figured out yet. I’m very similar with depression and being an executor and I honestly think joy looks different for everyone and we all might not come from the same experiences but I do hope you feel lighter Zach. And also if anyone’s debating going to therapy, I hope you do it because I promise you’ll feel at least slightly better after. If any of y’all just need someone random to listen or talk to as well, feel free to reach out, I’m happy to just be an internet stranger and not have any real life connection if someone needs that

Adi

I think therapy is always good and people should seek it. However I do believe that most of our problems stems from our existence as human. We ask ourselves what is our purpose? why r we here? what will happen after death? These questions are difficult to answer. I advise u to seek religions for some answers read their books it might help you. Start your own journey by learning more about Islam, Christianity.. etc. People tend to underestimate these ancient books although they contain lot of wisdom and enlightenment. I wish you and everyone a happy fulfilling life.

iAymxn

Joy is a weird concept .

TroDose

Thanks for replying btw

Kyle Wilson

i relate to this a lot. the part about thinking too much about ourselves and others is literally me. I always say that i feel like i have like a third eye that i opened one day and now i wish i could close because it makes me see too much and think too much. Like I'm tooo aware, you know what i mean?

Raquel Saavedra E.

Oh shii didn't know that been busy haven't been caught up whys she leave?

Kyle Wilson

today has been such an overwhelming and emotional day for me that as soon as i got to the therapy segment of the episode i started sobbing. I have a theory that the cause of such high depression and anxiety rates comes from the fact that the world has developed insanely quickly (specially technologically) in the last few years, but the human brain has not developed at the same rate. Our brains don't have the capacity to receive the insane amount of information that we receive daily. This leads to everyone feeling insanely overwhelmed. For example: Back in the day, our parents/grandparents would compare their lives and success to the people immediately around them. Now a days, because of technology, we compare each other to the person next to us and also the person on the other side of the world. And we all know that comparison is the thief of joy.

Raquel Saavedra E.

Too smart for your own good Zach. I struggle with it too- this sounds harsh but thinking about yourself too much, ruminating, causes more pain than help after a certain point. Stop thinking about yourself so much, get out of your head. In the same breadth, thinking about others too much does the same thing as well, it puts a giant weight and responsibility on yourself, and, ironically, the others around you too. When you struggle with “excessive empathy” (this is what my therapist called it oof) you tend to feel this panicked responsibility to police and control everyone else’s life and emotions because you can’t stand the idea of them suffering. You aren’t able to do that, actually. Not for one person, and not for everyone around you either. If they want to be happy they will find a way to be happy, if they need help they’ll ask for it, otherwise they are living the life they choose to live, even if it’s not perfect. It’s not your responsibility. The only person you are responsible for is yourself (and your child, if you have one). Genuinely- you are your only responsibility. Your therapist was right when she said “selfishness” is a good thing, as in putting yourself before others. You can’t help others if you feel like shit all the time, eventually your energy will run out and you’ll be completely empty: nothing to give and nothing for yourself. Think about why you truly feel the need to help make everyone’s life you care for better? Is it so they’ll be happy and at peace or so you can feel less worried for them, and their feeling better is just a byproduct? Helping is a good thing, being generous and caring to others is a good thing- but if it’s exhausting you perhaps it’s an attempt for you to actually control and manage those around you. I used to struggle with this a lot. Let it go. It takes a long time and I still struggle with it but genuinely, people are gonna live the life they wanna live whether you intervene and worry yourself to death about them or not. I know the feeling of having so much love in your heart that it hurts…give some of it to yourself for once.

jocat

the policys bc if they get hit by a car they can sue for letting them in it

kaylin

This is the sweetest thing ever, thank you so much Zach.

Charlie Lawson

they could never make me hate any of u

seley anna

The need for a car in a drive thru is a safety issue. There’s a lot of blind spots and distracted driving in a drive thru, and the risk for you as a pedestrian of getting hit is high. Allowing you to walk through the drive thru would make it “part of their normal business practices,” and they could potentially be held liable for your injuries if (1) you were following all their posted rules and (2) there’s not enough warnings to cars about the possibility of pedestrians. Insurers and restaurants don’t want to deal with defending themselves from these lawsuits all the time, so insurance companies write exceptions for these types of things into their policies (so they aren’t involved if these things happen) and the restaurants ban it to prevent exposure to lawsuits.

Riley Hauser

Weird comment to make given the overarching theme of this episode.

Dean Matthew

Haha poor guy. How did his reaction look like in the moment before you found out this true internal monologue?

JSL

BP

thank you for being so vulnerable with us Zach ❤️ we love you

Lissa S

thank you for this Zach, i’ve always wanted to try therapy and think it would help so much, but i’m so scared. this has really inspired me to

Kaitlyn Cynthia

I'm sad for Skylar because of the breakup... but I think him and Alyssa would be perfect for each other. They argue like a married couple already lol.

Ante Proctor

This feels like a pivot moment.. like a thanos snap kinda shift, for mental health (especially men), for Zach, and for this dropouts community

Alex Parris

i have really been struggling lately with trying to find my place in the world. idk where i’m supposed to be or what my purpose is. my mental health has been really struggling lately & i am so glad that you guys are really open & honest about your struggles with mental health & acknowledge that some people do need help & that talking to someone is okay. growing up im sure a lot of us can relate in the way we were raised not knowing much about it & not knowing how to handle it so im glad it is becoming more of a topic & more talked about amongst everyone so the next generations can be more emotionally intelligent & hopefully not have to struggle the way we have

Jenna Biego

Thanks for sharing Zach, thankfully I got away from depression before it took my life ( I was extremely close) but when my depression ended a new chapter of my life started and I’m thankful I got to experience that level of depression so I can hopefully help someone else in that dark place. Also seeing this podcast grow has been a blessing thank you guys for everything y’all do, yall help a lot of people and you may not even know it so thanks

Ruck

She quit

Abby

I’m 21 years old in school and I’m working so I get wanting to have the human experience and I have been struggling with it a bit too my best friend got married and my other friends have started they’re careers and I’m just going home to school every day after work and it’s hard cause I wanna live and I don’t feel like I am but I have a goal

brody .

She’s an amazing therapist

Shamaury Mosley

Wooow. For some who is dealing some sort of mental health but I have not gone into fixing because I always think somebody else out there has it worse then I do. Thank you for this episode!

Subz

this is so important to show zach. i’m so proud of u for being so vulnerable with the world. so much love for u

sydney berg

I used to be the kind of person that distracts myself from all negative emotions because they hurt and are uncomfortable but something that has been good for my mental health is forcing myself to sit with them and process them. To do this all I do is literally stare at a wall for an hour, no phone, no music, no distractions of any kind. Just being forced to sit with my own thoughts has helped my understand my wants and needs much better, made myself much more comfortable with being alone in my own head and overall just a more productive human. Probably won't work for everyone because everyone is different but it's a simple idea that I think is worth sharing

ryan

aww no way i’m sad skyler and courtney broke up💔

Keikei

This was a great video. I thought it was very interesting getting to see a deeper glimpse into your psyche. I really like the idea you mentioned about passing on your knowledge and skills to help the people coming up behind you. It's very clear to see you actually don't have an ego about your success and really just want to help. It's really sweet. <3

Emma

Wheres yummy?

Kyle Wilson

This episode is incredibly sweet, it's on the next level.

Rene Hasp

Shoulda done the therapy with Dr K

Ali G

I’m 100% a lurker. Thank you for posting this and being so open. Happened to coincide with a very weak moment for me. Signed up myself. Nothing but respect, if you can share this with all of us, I can share mine with a professional. Nothing but love for you, thank you. I can’t be the only one you’ve saved. ❤️

Michael Stewart

I was the fan with the bachelorette party 😂🤦🏻‍♀️ sorry Skylar! Thank you for being so sweet!

Kaylee Kelly

I really connect with Zach love his sense of humor

Cassi Steinbeisser

You guys are real as fuck for this. Thank you

Calogero E Barrientos

like some of us zacks to smart and analyzes everything and trys to respond with the appropriate reaction but un genuine. like a Spock. Just too smart for the everyday bs. my recommendation. just keep doing you bro it's who you are, but whatever you do don't experiment with drugs, you don't really need it. instead keep living for others. I see nothing wrong with that.

Peace

It pains me knowing we relate. I’ve been battling depression since 13 years old and I’m 21 currently. I only experience sparks of joy but I’m usually just existing. When I hang around certain crowds, I mimic their behavior because I don’t wanna be a “sad sack” lol. Deep down I’m scared no one knows the real me.. or if I even do. I appreciate you showing your vulnerability and I truly believe lots of people will begin therapy because of YOU. I pray you find joy in everyday life and don’t feel like you have to mask around people. It’s exhausting.

Rhendi

For the longest time I've been wondering if Zach was going on therapy since his persona is so complex, he's very emotionally intelligent, not mentioning the abusive relationship experience. Glad to know now, hope you will continue therapy. Thank you for the raw vulnerability you finally showed.

Agnieszka Mołdysz

In my completely non-professional opinion, I think there is a level of disconnectedness that we are becoming more aware of across all of our social interactions - a sense of distance from the human experience that makes us feel as though there is something wrong with us and giving rise to the question: "why am I not experiencing the same joy that seems to come so easy to everyone else?". It's something that I have struggled with personally, but what has helped me is the realisation that there is no such thing as THE Human Experience, since there is no such this as THE Human, only A human with individual thoughts, feelings and perspectives that will shape their individual human experience. Saying that I am wasting this finite life, to me, is saying that there is a "correct" way to live, and that "correct" way will bring happiness. But I think measuring happiness immediately destroys it. What if you reach a major accomplishment, but you don't feel as happy as you thought you would? You have already detracted from whatever joy you did feel with disappointment. Instead, I find it better to live in the moment - I have routines, go to work and survive, but I try to marvel little things in the day, like the shape of the clouds, or the feel of the sun, and appreciate the little joy I feel in that single moment. I believe if you string together enough happy moments, you will find a happy day, then week, then life. It takes courage to release something as vulnerable as a therapy session to the world, and open yourself up to the psychoanalysis of everyone, and I really appreciate that step. I'm sure that this video will reach people, and help them realise it is ok to get help, or even make them feel like they are not alone in their feelings. Thanks Zach! ☺️

Rachel Patterson

wait i just saw the 12 notes poster beside alyssa that’s so cool

Shawna lee

Change is necessary : 1.New podcast set. 2. Read: Reality transurfing 3. Microdosing 4. Sky diving 5. Sensory intensify, example - spicy food, different essentials oil smells, 8D music, breathwork etc 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

Ailsie Path 🌹

I empathies with Skyler ❤️ Hope you find joy again soon

pilo nim

I think you won therapy bro she seems stumped

Ty Herman

Curious your take on pharmaceuticals because, as you briefly mentioned, sometimes it really is a lack of the chemicals needed to feel these things.. though I don’t recommend it as a first resort but sounds like you’ve done a lot of internal work and are very self aware which are great pre-reqs

Ashley Brimacomb

Zach - I totally understand how you feel, and it’s one of the hardest things to work on when you’re seemingly doing “all the right things.” Recognizing when you should be excited, or elated after having a “good day,” but not feeling that way… so frustrating. “Did you have fun?” is one of the worst questions because on paper yes but I didn’t FEEL the fun or excitement.

Ashley Brimacomb

damn i never thought id relate so much to everything you said zach. i'm making pasta rn and listening lol and i verbally said out loud "No" when she asked if others celebrating your accomplishments does anything for you. i've been living by that same little mantra "you'll figure it out." since i was in elementary school. it's crazy when you open up, you find out how many people relate to you.

𝗆𝖾𝗀𝗁𝖺𝗇

Excited for this one!

Dylan Stewart

Also, thank you for being so open and vulnerable! Great episode.

Anon95

What changed all of that was 1) addressing that I was in a long term state of mild depression and it was numbing my life experiences and 2) that happiness and joy is not one-size-fits-all. If you feel immense gratitude and happiness when your family and friends succeed, then you should practice leaning into those feelings fully and then build on that for yourself

Anon95

I had similar feelings - disconnected from experiencing what everyone around me is experiencing. Excitement, wonderment, joy. Felt like I was surrounded by an invisible barrier that made everything muted, dull and blurry while everyone else seemed to see things in technicolor. I am also fiercely independent and a problem solver and rarely rely on people around me to help me solve things. I realized that the lack of trust and safety means I always have to be ON. Being on all the time makes it incredibly hard to feel authentically. You are always guarded and neutral so you can be ready when a problem arises. You feel guilty celebrating yourself because you don’t think you deserve it.

Anon95

i loved this ep so much, thanks zach for being vulnerable

Taela

Great podcast guys. Zach, it was nice to hear about your struggles as I struggle with many of the same issues. I have thought about therapy, but wasn’t sure it would work out. I think you have changed my mind though.

Devan Cummins

Loved the therapy segment, that happiness and fulfillment life brought when I was young has been gone for me as well

Jalte Rasmussen

Thank you Zach for being vulnerable.

EeveeQ

What was the book ?

Ben Melton

please bring the guests back

Madison

god i love alyssa

o o p

*This is a ‘copy and paste’ of a comment I posted up in the thread. I want to add a bit of context- the book is about add/adhd, and is extremely in depth and insiteful and brilliant. Everything started to make sense and as difficult as it is for me to focus on reading- I had no issue with it (literally only my second ‘novel’ I’ve read in my life. The other is I hope they Serve Beer in Hell 😂). Anyways sorry this is long! * -Zach, PLEASE read Driven to Distraction. It will explain how you got where you are and you will then have a starting point to find your way where you want to be. I hope you read this and give it a shot. Everything you’ve said is a dead ringer to what I have experienced most of my life (still am). But the two things I got from the book is an understanding of myself in a way I would have never had, and HOPE! I’ve never had the ‘light at the end of the tunnel’. I’m not here for clout or recognition, but if you read it and find what I have said to be true, maybe shout the book out for me just so I know I was able to help you and allow you to help through your platform. I gain nothing from a book sale- just saying.

Seth Knox

This is sick. In a good way though

Khaiwan Sammons

This is one of the best episodes you guys posted! I loved the first part, but Zach, thank you for the vulnerability you showed in the second part! You should continue therapy, as it definitely helps you, even though you obviously have a higher emotional intelligence than most ppl have. But stop chasing the „perfect amount of happiness” you see / think others feel. We are different. Let`s put it this way: none of the fingers on your hands are the same, and still, they all are as important as the rest of them for your hand to function. None of us are the same/function the same way, and that`s ok. Do what keeps YOUR mind at ease. One thing that I`m sure of, though, is that you`ll truly find the happiness you seek when you`ll settle and have your first child. That is the only true magic this World can do for each and every soul that steps foot on it... so I really think that that is the moment you will feel complete and truly happy! Much love 💚

Maya

Zach, PLEASE read Driven to Distraction. It will explain how you got where you are and you will then have a starting point to find your way where you want to be.

Seth Knox

Thank you Zach that was incredible. Weird when you hear things you thought you were the only one feeling.

Liz Priestley

This was so lovely!! Go Zach. Thank you for doing that. And the second half was also great, I love Alyssa being apart of the conversation! And happy to see Skyler being more vulnerable too. So cool. Jared just being Jared is beautiful as always. You guys are awesome.

Elissa

Thank you for sharing something so personal with us.

Gittie Bruyninckx

As someone who struggles, thank you Zach. <3

Meandra Sewell

No no, don’t do this 😂

Anon95

I think Zach you could try Carnivor Diet ( natural carnivor not fake meat or processed sausages ) ... it helped me reduce my depression and anxiety I can say by 50%. IF you pair it with workouts I think you will feel more benefits.

pilo nim

Used to work at McDonald’s it’s an insurance thing. They don’t want people getting smacked by the cars coming around the corner

Liz Priestley

Thank you for sharing your mental health struggles! I just finished my first month with BetterHelp & am extremely thankful!

Hannah Jane

Can confirm I ate the chewy bar

Rachel Kerby

Not only is sip the sake slow while in Tokyo poetic but also very true that shit gets you drunk fast

B222

Yayyyyyy 75 minutes of Zack! This is the content I sub for!

Samuel Ray

I’ve been waitiinnnnnggg for the better help segment

karen Paredes

I cnt get enough of podcasts like these , having all th gang....Soo funnnyyyyy!

pilo nim

Oh wow! Can`t wait to see it!!

Maya

I am so excited to see the second half of this pod!!

Abraham Alanis

Weekly comment about loving Skyler. Looking forward to this episode

Mason

Third

Austin Anderson

Second

Willy Groening

Can't wait!

thatnerdyguy