Hidden True Crime

Podcast: The kidnapping and murder of David Heisler

Here is the ad-free audio podcast and early access to my interview with Debbie Heisler. Debbie's only child, David, was murdered after he received full custody of his daughter. Debbie takes us through her story and shares how she has become an activist for others going through a similar situation. 

Tonight we will premiere this pre-recorded interview on YouTube  in just a few more hours. Right here: https://youtu...

MISSING CHILDREN- PARENTS TALK OF CLEARING DARK SPIRITS

This is a case we want to get out and shared asap. The children, according to the private investigator, are in danger. Two sets of parents have increasingly intensified religious beliefs, and the grandparents are calling it a cult. The similarities to the Daybell case are eerie. The grandparents are in Louisiana, and the missing parents and children have made their way to the Phoenix area. 

Here is today's interview with the grandparents of four-year-old Nathaniel. Please help us f...

UPDATE- NEW CASES WE ARE FOLLOWING

Patreon gems! What a weekend, and what a Monday. John is now sick, but I am doing better--luckily. During the weekend two new cases were brought to our attention and we're following both closely. Four new YouTube videos have been posted, (it was three videos when I started writing this patreon post, but I just did another unexpected interview, so that makes four).

 I'll share the links below for the first case out of Excelsior Springs, MO, and I'll share additional Patreon posts la...

PUTIN PODCAST 2.0

What makes a tyrant? Why do human beings continue to let tyrants have positions of power? This episode tackles these questions. 

Dr. John hasn't been in the most hopeful place listening to the news about the war in Ukraine, and studying/researching Russian President Vladimir Putin, hence this conversation has continued at our dinner table. 

For those who aren't caught up on our first conversation about Vladimir Putin, you can find it with the link below: 

2022-10-07 18:54:00 +0000 UTC View Post

Hello Hidden Gems -

Took a break from editing the upcoming Patreon episode to answer some questions we are continuing to have.

John and I are not taking any new direction. We are doing what we’ve always done—talking about the Daybell case, along with other crimes, at our our dinner table and hosting Podcast and YouTube episodes.

Lori Hellis is a guest and legal expert who makes appearances on our YouTube channel.

While Lori is actively engaged in filing her motions we are respectfully not ...

Life update and episodes coming

Hi Patreons!

If anyone saw our live last night on YouTube about the Eliza Fletcher case, you saw I was coughing (again). After 5 months of bronchitis last year, our fingers are crossed this is only temporary.

I hoped to get an episode out for our Hidden gems today. John and I recorded the Patreon-only episode Thursday night at our dinner table, but alas—I’m in bed.

Some uplifting news: Taking care of myself today is reminded me of everyone’s kindness last year. So m...

Dr. John interviews Netflix Director Skye Borgman. They talk Colby.

This is the RSS feed audio, and below is the link to your ad-free, early access video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO35VgPigcA

Skye Borgman is the Director of "Sins of our Mother" the Netflix documentary about the Daybell case. She is also the director of other true crime docs you've likely seen. 

We will be sharing this interview on YouTube tomorrow, but we will be cutting some of i...

Rebekah Barsotti podcast- RSS AUDIO VERSION and AD-FREE YOUTUBE

Here it is! For those who like their podcast apps, or those who would like to listen ad-free on YouTube, both choices are available now. Thank you for your patience! 

https://youtu.be/-qRXmkr97Kw

Public premiere in 30 minutes

Hello Hidden Gems! Usually we give you early access, but there's an urgency with the Rebekah Barsotti case and we can't wait to release this. Word on the street is that the Montana AG's office is investigating  (FINALLY!) John and I want to put the information we've learned out into the sunlight ASAP. 

This was my project. I wanted people to understand this case, and learn about Rebekah. I wanted to bring many of the facts together so we can understand what is happening in Min...

BEHIND THE SCENES OF THE NETFLIX DOC

Director Skye Borgman interviewed John twice during the two year process of making "Sins of our Mother". The second time the Netflix crew came, I was able to watch some of the interviewing process and shot some video on my cell phone. 

Just found this 6 minute clip with Skye asking John about cults and Chad Daybell. 

On Friday we turned the tables and John and I were able to interview Skye. It was an intimate conversation. We discussed Colby's charges that have now been ...

Colby Ryan Arrested, Charged

The son of Lori Vallow Daybell was arrested over the weekend and charged with two counts of sexual assault. When we learned of the arrest tonight, we posted the news on Facebook, and wrote: "This tragedy continues to reverberate every day, and now across generations." These were our initial thoughts, and John says the first emotion he felt was sorrow. He shares more of his thoughts tonight, and we process the difficult news at our dinner table with our guest Emily who is visiting over the hol...

EARLY ACCESS/AD-FREE: SUZANNE FREEMAN PART 2

Here is the audio RSS feed (Podcast version) of Suzanne Freeman's interview (PART TWO) 

If you prefer video, below is the ad-free, early access YouTube link for Part 2. It still might be processing for another 10 minutes, so check back soon if the video link is not pulling up right away: https://youtu.be/vxj5gbyuFXk

We will be premiering the YouTube video for the public on Friday evening at 7pm, so please co...

UPCOMING NETFLIX DOC: Dr John will be featured!

We wanted to answer questions and share a bit of our experience filming with the Netflix crew! 

Up next, I'll share some behind-the-scenes videos and photos during John's interview with Director Skye Borgman.

Suzanne Freeman PODCAST audio, PLUS DOCS/EMAILS SEEN IN VIDEO

Per your request (and we love it when we get requests) we are not only adding the audio version of Suzanne Freeman's interview (PART 1), but ALSO all of the docs/SS/emails I used in the video version of the interview. there will likely be doubles of some things, and some extra docs not seen in the video, because most everything I saved for the interview was in one folder, and I've attached everything. Let us know what you notice! We love all of your extra eyes. ENJOY!

Also, if anyone i...

Suzanne Freeman preview for tonight's public premiere

I apologize for not getting an earlier release to ya'll today. I kept editing, edited some more, drank a lot of caffeine, and I am just wrapping up. 

BUT your early access, ad-free link made it (Although it might be another 10 minutes while the video still processes): https://youtu.be/OuDSvTkepvQ

Until then, enjoy the preview posted above, and I hope many of you will join tonight's chat in just 90 more minut...

A sneak peak at Suzanne Freeman interview - some edits

This is Lauren. Our plan is to publicly premiere Suzanne's interview Friday (TGIF), and I hope to have her interview published on Patreon ad-free tomorrow.  I realize I mentioned it would air tonight (Wednesday) but I'm STILL editing!  I've been continuing to research and add extra sound to emphasize the thoughts Suzanne shares with us.

Someone asked me how Suzanne's interview contributes to the conversation surrounding the Daybell case, and I think what it does really well ...

Dr. John's YouTube live in podcast format

Here is last night's live Q and A, ad-free, in audio form. 

TONIGHT: Dr John will go live on YouTube.

Leave your questions in the comments below, and we’ll prioritize YOUR questions.

Also, for those that like to hear Dr John in podcast form, I’ll post the audio of tonight’s YouTube live either later tonight, or tomorrow, to listen ad-free.

Lori's hearing, Macbeth and other late night snacks

We sat down last night at our dinner table to just ... talk. 

And talk we did. We talked about Lori's emotions in court yesterday morning, and we talked about what John did while Banks and I were out of town (Spoiler alert: He went clubbing.   ... Just kidding.  He watched Macbeth).

Remember, all of these audio recordings can be listened to on Hidden True Crime's Patreon podcast. Subscribe and you'll be notified of any new episodes we publish. 

PATREON PODCAST - A Julie Rowe Story

One woman's experience watching her husband distance himself from her family after exploring Julie Rowe's teachings.

We care about understanding Julie Rowe at Hidden True Crime. We believe she and Chad were major leaders in the belief system and cult that led to multiple murders. Julie continues to preach her messages today about multiple probations, past spouses, and even a workshop on zombies. 

Lori and Alex were big fans of Julie Rowe's books before meeting Chad. 

Newspaper clipping including Chad and Tammy Daybell

I’m going to take a guess: Tammy wrote the entire Tiny Talks book, and Chad just HAD to put his name on it. Tammy’s name comes first on the cover, although alphabetically it should come second. I picture Chad thinking: I just can’t let Tammy have this moment all to herself, and takes some ownership by slapping on his name.

Lastly, the episode with a woman whose family has been influenced by Julie Rowe Is coming! Small glitch yesterday in the final podcast, so editing one last thi...

Behind the scenes of the Rebekah Barsotti case

After quite a few emails, concerns from listeners, and confusion as to why we feel this case is so important, Dr. John and I decided to sit down and talk Barsotti in a way we haven't discussed publicly before. We start with a thoughtful message from a Patreon member and go from there. We answer some questions many have had. We explain the case, and how it evolved into where it is now. 

A year ago today is the day Rebekah's dog Cerberus was found dead in a Montana river. After just ...

NEW DAYBELL TIMELINE (complete with texts in chronological order)

Carrie Knapp is an amazing hidden gem who put together an excellent timeline. I asked if we could share it here, and we are so grateful she said yes! It is attached below in pdf form. 

A bit about Carrie and her research: 

"I joined Patreon so I could read the Chandler documents. Thank you so much for sharing those.

I am a paralegal and my job all day every day is to sort through document dumps and make sense of them. The best way I know to do this is to creat...

Matthew Coleman podcast - FULL Video version for Patreon

It’s finally uploaded and processed — for those that like video —here is the private YouTube version of the podcast we posted last night. As always, it's ad-free.

We also show you a bit of the behind-the-scenes at our dinner table, although Dr. John wasn't in the mood to be filmed, you'll get the idea. :)

We will be playing a shortened version of this episode tonight publicly, in lieu of TGIF. I'll share the link here as soon as I have it, so we can chat during the premiere....

Matthew Coleman - jailhouse letters admitting delusional beliefs, after killing his own children

Hey Patrons! This is the audio (RSS feed) version of our latest podcast for you.  We have a video version too that's currently uploading, and we'll post it here next. You can listen here on Patreon, or on any podcast app you use. If you're subscribed to our Patreon podcast, you can get notifications each time a new episode drops, and we plan to do our best to make many of our produced YouTube videos into audio episodes for those who enjoy the podcast format.

If you'd rather hear (...

DEEP DIVE INTO CHAD'S VISIONS FOR TAMMY DAYBELL

Our guest and Patreon Julie Holden took the time on Friday to share information she's gathered on Tammy Daybell. Here is that live in Podcast form for anyone wanting to revisit the live, or for those who prefer podcasts, or an ad-free listen.  

ALSO attached, for our Patrons only, are Julie Holden's slides and research material in PDF form. 

THANK YOU TO THE GOODJULIE for sharing your time and research with us! 

We'll be back with more soon! :) 

PODCAST AUDIO: HTC's live with Jason Maxwell - INVESTIGATING DAVID BARSOTTI'S LIES

We received word that our Patreon's are wanting more of our YouTube videos ad-free, and as a podcast. 

This is tonight's live, unedited, in podcast form for our podcast listeners. Just subscribe to our Hidden True Crime Patreon feed to listen. Zero ads! 

Or listen right here on Patreon. 

We had a visitor on tonight's live chat--Shane Bishop--a producer with Dateline. He's working Rebekah's case, and HTC is sharing any evidence we can right now with the Datelin...

TONIGHT: LIVE WITH MARINE JASON MAXWELL

Jason Maxwell is also a neighbor of David Barsotti, and he has A LOT to say. 

If you'd like to join the live chat, please do! If you'd prefer an RSS feed of this live to listen later on our Patreon podcast, I'll share it here later! 

REBEKAH BARSOTTI UPDATE: Live q & a with the "hitman"

Whew! Covering this case has been overwhelming -to say the least. What started as John and I wanting to advocate for Rebekah--a domestic violence victim-- has turned into much more than we anticipated. 

We've continually debated if we keep covering this case, and we have also filed a report with the FBI after receiving the phone recordings and texts from Nathan.

The conversations are allegedly between Nathan and Rebekah's estranged husband David Barsotti, after Rebekah went m...

ZULEMA INTERVIEW - PODCAST AUDIO - reading of Zulema Pastenes 2020 Interview

Here is the ad-free reading by Lauren that is now available as an RSS feed so you can listen to it as a podcast episode. 

Attached is the full interview you can read in PDF form. It's from our FOIA requests--the Chandler evidence dump.

Tonight at 7pm pacific  Lori Hellis and I will go live HERE https://youtu.be/jLm7JNOyD2g to talk all things Zulema. Please leave your comments and questions below, and I'...