Iconic Masters panic
Added 2017-11-21 16:13:30 +0000 UTCSo as everyone knows by now, i did not offer Iconic masters at a "Rudy" cheap price. Simply because..the market conditions are so bad, it doesn't "feel" good.
Now that a week has passed release and the market is slowly leveling out, box prices are stuck at the 165-175.00 range and seem to be holding.
I originally only received around 150 boxes compared to the normal 600+
This was caused by all the WPN stores being allocated "larger" numbers like 64 boxes each vs. the normal 24-36.
Now whats happening is most stores are NOT buying them and refusing them. The distributor level is holding a LOT of boxes.
The ironic part is that distributors received 20% less boxes than Modern Masters 2017. The theory is because the missing 20% went to Walmart/target. The print run is NOT higher and is NOT massive. It is the same as MM2017. The difference is the big biggest MTG stores in the country are NOT taking the allocations due to panic and holidays.
I am accumulating a LOT of boxes. probably over 1,200+ boxes so far. The market will calm down and the single prices will level out and start to uptick in the coming months.
1 Small distributor restock is expected from WOTC in the next 30 days. (we are talking SMALL like 1 pallet per location)
So this leads us to today...do you guys want me to add Iconic Masters to the black friday sale list coming tomorrow for around 164.99 the lowest market price.
Comments
I bought some from ebay when you recommended that, I would also buy a few more at that price.
2017-11-23 17:23:08 +0000 UTCYeah so I guess I'm a lying sack of shit. I bought two boxes from Creepy Rudy in this crazy Black Friday sale.
2017-11-22 21:39:20 +0000 UTCApparently SCG is fireselling their Iconic Masters for 150 with cheapest shipping at 7 dollars. I'd still give the extra 3 bucks to Rudy for the sheer fact that he never skimps on the cheese on those tacos
Avery Martin
2017-11-22 20:42:17 +0000 UTCwell thats not good...without being tickled whats the point...lol
Rudy The Magic Guy
2017-11-22 16:16:21 +0000 UTCI don't think of it as a patron fee - I'm volunteering to be a patron. I want to help support Rudy in making more videos, because they're worth it to me. In addition, I'm willing to pay $5 more per box to give a little bit back to Rudy. I also find the $160 boxes VERY suspicious - one seller looks legit, the rest are questionable. I got burned months ago on a cheap-but-realistically priced MM2017 that looked EXACTLY like some of the $160 boxes look.
2017-11-22 13:44:31 +0000 UTCidk what sealed product even tickles my pickle anymore rudy...
Donovan
2017-11-22 09:57:57 +0000 UTCid buy a box or two just really hoping the duel decks don pop up on your black friday list after i bought them on sunday ... lol
2017-11-22 05:42:25 +0000 UTCPaid $170/doorstop on a few cases from eBay. I am not going to buy any but that is a great price for anyone that wants them. I say yes! add them.
Francis
2017-11-22 05:28:00 +0000 UTCI'd likely get two boxes since it's been a struggle and a half getting my two from eBay. Damn work schedule keeping me from being home to sign for them.
2017-11-22 04:30:44 +0000 UTCI'll take another case.
2017-11-22 03:01:41 +0000 UTCI'd pass at $165 eBay has them at $159.99 right now. I'd be in if you matched your previous Modern Masters 2017 price of $150 that seemed like a worthy black Friday deal. Honest question to the other patrons: So many of you make it sound like $165 is some killer deal (Not even including the patron fee), do you not look up prices elsewhere?
2017-11-22 01:35:53 +0000 UTC160 seems to be lowest on eBay. I see prob buy 2 at that price
2017-11-22 01:29:21 +0000 UTCi would also buy at least 2 boxes
2017-11-22 01:14:08 +0000 UTCI would buy two boxes, to hard to pass up., thx Rudy.
Greg Halvorson
2017-11-22 00:44:42 +0000 UTCI would very likely get two boxes
2017-11-22 00:15:54 +0000 UTCGosh darn it Rudy (keeping it family friendly). Of coarse after I have bought 5 boxes on ebay. I think I am done with buying IM but still would be great for them to be offered.
2017-11-22 00:14:27 +0000 UTCI won't buy anything less than a case.
2017-11-21 23:02:02 +0000 UTCI'd buy a box or two.
Geoffrey Portch
2017-11-21 22:52:05 +0000 UTCI feel bad for the people who patreon to you and bought boxes at 200$!!! But their lost is my gain I will buy maybe one box.
Joey Nguyen
2017-11-21 22:28:58 +0000 UTCI'd take at least one box, thanks Rudy!
2017-11-21 22:17:08 +0000 UTCI'll defs go in on it!!
2017-11-21 21:50:18 +0000 UTCIll deff buy two probably beginning of Dec!!
2017-11-21 20:13:10 +0000 UTCI would grab a box from you if offered for that deal.
Derek Young
2017-11-21 19:29:05 +0000 UTCIf i could buy one box from that price for you it seems like an awesome deal!
2017-11-21 19:04:45 +0000 UTCI would be in for a couple boxes at a minimum. We're largely drafting then cubing all sets lately, so it would be good fun to quell our back cracking addiction.
2017-11-21 18:27:53 +0000 UTCLike an addict, I am already 10 boxes into the set, but I think it is a great addition. I am a big fan and even though I had a range of boxes, I still came out slightly ahead when only adding up singles worth more than $2.
Andrew Booth
2017-11-21 18:27:03 +0000 UTCi wouldn't buy any
2017-11-21 18:12:28 +0000 UTCI bought two boxes of Iconic Masters at $170 shipped via eBay. I opened one of them and got one of the "reallygoodhit.com" boxes (strangely, only ONE mythic, and no money foils, but I got a Horizon Canopy, Ancestral Vision, a Grove of the Burnwillows, and six other rares worth between $5-10, closer to the $10 side). I still ended up short of the money I spent on the box. I am saving the other box to draft with my friends, because Iconic Masters seems like a hell of a lot of fun to draft. But I don't think all those good cards from the first box combined with an excellent draft experience with my friends is going to make up for having spent $350 for 48 booster packs. I think I may have already unfortunately formed my impression about this set.
2017-11-21 18:11:07 +0000 UTCI would buy some too
2017-11-21 18:05:44 +0000 UTCYeah I'd buy some
2017-11-21 18:01:04 +0000 UTCRight, so, the minute I opened a pack, not only did the cards feel "normal" but the booster pack wrapper even felt more "normal" than whatever came out of all those boxes of Ixalan I just opened. That being said, holy shit, those foils from Creepy Rudy's box opening video yesterday had some of the worst ink smear/smudging I've ever seen on any card. This makes me really curious about the printing process, because it appears Wizards knows EXACTLY how to fix the printing problem, which would contradict Creepy Rudy's video. I feel however that Rudy's primary currency is trust, and so I genuinely believe him when he brought us the information from the recent printing video. Creepy Rudy has every incentive to put out information as accurately as he can.
2017-11-21 17:57:06 +0000 UTCYes indeed!
2017-11-21 17:51:33 +0000 UTCI feel your pain bro...
2017-11-21 17:44:07 +0000 UTCI would buy at least 1 box at that price
2017-11-21 17:28:31 +0000 UTCman... I left MTG right after Urzas Destiny/Legacy... Trying to get back into the swing of things and wow... so much has changed... My head hurts.... lol I have not bought into any cards sense then - Actually sent Rudy an email about this a few days go... Not sure where to jump in - hell not even sure if I want to again... seems like everything is flipped upside down now.... hmm..
2017-11-21 17:27:25 +0000 UTCI already hit my six boxes this month at my current Patreon level, would I need to up my Patreon to get this Iconic Deal? *wallet looking at me annoyed* I'd probably grab two. :) *edit* screw it, I got a sexy deal on Adobe Creative Cloud this week so all year I'm getting it for $40 instead of $50 (not an ad), so I just upped my Patreon to $20! Even if I don't buy 12 boxes a month it's money well spent supporting you Rudy. :)
Grey Shirt Guy
2017-11-21 17:16:42 +0000 UTCIf you haven’t opened this yet... card quality and foiling is pretty damn good. You can tell a pretty substantial difference with card stock on this set compared to what’s been put out in the last year. I saw Rudy had some issues with inking.... all of my product was flawless and foiling/overall card feel was very nice.
2017-11-21 17:16:40 +0000 UTCI couldn't care less about Iconic Masters. Not to save, not to open, nothing. I'm surprised demand has prices that high.
2017-11-21 17:14:40 +0000 UTCYes I want to draft this set!
Albert Ian
2017-11-21 17:07:08 +0000 UTCI'd buy multiple boxes from you at that price :) So long as you promise me it's "the best" as you throw the non-best on the ground!
2017-11-21 16:55:35 +0000 UTCConfidence is low on this set, there are better investments out there for less money. My local store got 12 boxes in, they are sitting on 4 at $214 a box and will not be getting anymore.
2017-11-21 16:53:42 +0000 UTCTo be completely honest, as a PokeTuber, I need product to open on my channel, so I’d rather buy a case of Pokémon boxes at a Black Friday blowout sale level from you. The iconic masters box, for me anyway, will go straight to my vault to be stored rather than opened. So, I’d rather an awesome Pokémon price for Black Friday buddy.
Pharone
2017-11-21 16:51:45 +0000 UTCIt sounds good
2017-11-21 16:50:34 +0000 UTCIt’s tough because I have no confidence in cards avoiding reprints in any recent sets with the exception of lottery cards (won’t be reprinted w same card style, I’m confident). Especially with iconic, Wizards proved that they’ll even reprint original artwork, which was one subtlety singles investors were still holding onto. Saying this because I’m probably not alone in my reasoning for not wanting to touch this set w a 50ft pole. I did one draft at an LGS and that was it.
2017-11-21 16:45:15 +0000 UTCFor that price, i would probably get some from you, too!
2017-11-21 16:45:15 +0000 UTCI'd grab two from you at that price. *Checks Yes*
2017-11-21 16:44:52 +0000 UTCYup yup. They are closing in on $160 on ebay. The extra 5 is worth it to know its coming from a confirmed source!
Robert Garrow
2017-11-21 16:38:28 +0000 UTCYou can. Personally I'm hoping for a mix-and-match deal on Final Fantasy boxes. I'm hoping you got some FF Opus 4 on the way and maybe put that on preorder Thursday. Would love to be able to buy say...2 boxes of Final Fantasy and 1 Unstable but I think we already covered you cant split Unstable boxes - damn you wizards! Looking forward to Thursday.
2017-11-21 16:38:06 +0000 UTCNothing about this set does anything for me (or any masters set for that matter). I'm a no-go at any price.
2017-11-21 16:37:46 +0000 UTCYes please! I see it as you doing us a favor.
Macoy DeAnda
2017-11-21 16:37:27 +0000 UTCI wish I knew this before I bought them from ebay....
Beaker
2017-11-21 16:36:41 +0000 UTCI think that's a yes
TopDeck4TheWin
2017-11-21 16:36:16 +0000 UTCI’d say add it as an option, just don’t remove anything from the list. I personally won’t buy any cause I s snagged a case for $130 a box and am currently $1500 in the hole for this month but options for people are always a good thing
2017-11-21 16:36:15 +0000 UTCI’d buy 1, but not two or more. I still want more Ixalan and Pokémon. I can’t afford more than 1 iconic masters.
Pharone
2017-11-21 16:34:20 +0000 UTCYou'd be a god among men
2017-11-21 16:34:01 +0000 UTCI would love to see this.
Red Comet
2017-11-21 16:33:49 +0000 UTCMeh, I would rather see older stuff and have this pricing in Feb
2017-11-21 16:32:21 +0000 UTCSounds like a good plan, I'll probably buy at that price
2017-11-21 16:31:49 +0000 UTCRudy I would say if it is just an addition to the list and it won't cause you to remove something else then go for it.
Jason Linger
2017-11-21 16:31:15 +0000 UTCHe is buying around $140 so I doubt he will be losing money.
Jason Linger
2017-11-21 16:30:22 +0000 UTCYes, add to sale. Will take 2 or 4 boosters at ~165.
Martin Morford
2017-11-21 16:28:17 +0000 UTCI think the community would be pleased with that as an option. Most FB stock for around the price has dried up or is minimal at this point. Well done for sure.
2017-11-21 16:25:15 +0000 UTCI'll be good with that
macleod2486
2017-11-21 16:23:20 +0000 UTCAs long as its not a big loss to you then I would very much appreciate the deal :)
2017-11-21 16:22:07 +0000 UTCI’ll probably buy one, but it really depends on what else you are selling on the sale list. I’m going to buy something though :).
Alex Risher
2017-11-21 16:21:37 +0000 UTCYes yes a million times yes please. I was hoping that this would happen. I wanted to be able to buy from you. I wanted to wait out the initial panic and I would love to be able to buy now. I was going to buy from eBay but if this happens I can go after the boxes I want at a fair price and buy it from the person I want to buy from. Please do this. I havent purchased in months but have been happy to donate the $10 bucks each month and I would love to be able to get something this month.
2017-11-21 16:20:56 +0000 UTCI knew I should have waited on my case. You should hold X amount and sell them to long term patreons for cheap in like 6-12 months.
2017-11-21 16:19:34 +0000 UTCLol wait a couple months then do this. Once our bank accounts reload. I already bought mine somewhere else, but would enjoy getting some more later at a fair price.
2017-11-21 16:19:21 +0000 UTCyes
2017-11-21 16:18:47 +0000 UTCGod yes
2017-11-21 16:18:46 +0000 UTCyes
randel s
2017-11-21 16:18:37 +0000 UTCUhh hell yes
2017-11-21 16:18:21 +0000 UTCI think you can, it doesn't hurt anything.
2017-11-21 16:18:16 +0000 UTCYes
Israel Solis
2017-11-21 16:17:39 +0000 UTC