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REACTING to BTS WINGS 'Boy Meets Evil' Comeback Trailer

HOW DID I MISS THIS?!?!?

Hobi ATE this up and went to TOWN holy guacamole!! This is a video that is sure to get anyone fired up! The heckin BODY control, the back bend flip, his VOICE?!?!? I don't know if Hobi is considered an "ace" in the music world but he is 100% an ACE in my HEART!!

This man can do it all, he has visuals, rap talent, singing talent, INSANE dance talent and stage presence.. WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT?! I loved this video so much because once again the boys are out here proving that they always have SO much more to show us and that we need to be READY!!

DAMN, I'm stilll shaking over this one

REACTING to BTS WINGS 'Boy Meets Evil' Comeback Trailer

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whenever I see him dance I'm like where are his bones? how is he doing that with his limbs?

Sara C

WE HAVE A RELEASE DATE?!? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Peachy Saiyan

BAHAH gotcha!!! >:D

Peachy Saiyan

YES! Golden Hyungie all the WAY!!

Peachy Saiyan

Cyb did a good job here, i think there's one also from hoseokiepedia 🄰 these false narratives has been circulating for far too long already and being considered as truth by most sadly.

Anj08@HOTSšŸ’œ

I think this is the first bts song I was really gobsmacked by. All the sounds in the production, and him screaming in the background ahhhhhh it's so crazy good. Also NEVERRRR going to be over him literally kicking himself in the head like it's nothing????? How???? (5:15 in case you missed it!) I definitely recommend you check out another live performance though! As much as I love the MAMA 2016 version, it's a mashup with Jimin's Lie, and seeing hobi do that kind of contemporary kick flip in the air thing live is soooo so good. My fav performance is a modified version he did live at the 2017 Seoul Music Awards where he's kind of chasing the camera through part of it.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5_X-Tiyq9k But he also did a dance live performance of it every night of the WINGS tour (except the Wings tour Finals in Seoul).

KRip23

You guys were right about the letters my bad but everything else I said still stands and I’m standing on it. The point of my message was don’t ignore the history because he’s your bias. They all had struggles they had to get through that helped them become stronger individuals Hobi included. That was the point…the point wasn’t the letters so we didn’t need your links sweetie but thanks.

Jay18

Y’all are misinterpreting my comment so bad…. No one said beauty equals talent…. But beauty does play a huge role in popularity. Also never said Jhope isn’t hot or beautiful so idk why y’all keep acting like i said that. But I’m done speaking on it because y’all keep twisting words and ignoring the truth of things. Save your reply because I won’t see it

Ana

Hun I know about the debunking of the letters. But you should stop playing obtuse. Ofc haters will call someone ugly but that doesn’t change the fact that the maknaes get the most attention due to their looks…. First thing people mentioned about V when people are learning about him is he’s the most handsome man on earth yet you think looks don’t play a role? Or Jimin is the prettiest man. Or Jk is muscle papi. Why is Jhope fancams never in the top fancams list? When Jhope fancams should be number one. V’s fancams are the top due to his facial expressions and you think beauty standards don’t play a role???? Why did someone on this very Patreon say Jhope and RM received the least letters on weverse? No one here thinks Jhope is ugly but you’re gonna ignore Jhope down playing his looks when it’s come out his own mouth multiple times?? Especially in bon voyage? Or people wanting him kicked out. You’re gonna ignore Namjoon literally reading someone say he was the ugliest idol in an interview? You’re gonna ignore Jimin be called fat? Ofc none of that is true about them but stop trying to act like it didn’t happen. And stop acting like we don’t know about Jhope and what’s he’s gone through. You keep saying things are debunked but the words still clearly affected the members. They themselves suffered with beauty standards. They don’t even want to get tanned afraid of appearing too dark. But for sure beauty standards definitely don’t touch BTS because everyone in the whole world is Army right? Anyone who speaks on a person’s appearance is a hater that’s obvious. Please tell me why the vocalist are more popular than rapline? And don’t use that screen time excuse because Jin is a vocalist and he gets the least. Please give me the reason why the vocalist album sells did waaaaay better. I’ll wait The hate all of them received is what made them the strong men we see today. Stop trying to act like it didn’t happen and disrespecting BTS like they didn’t receive a lot of hate from everywhere especially back in their early days

Ana

Here’s a whole thread debunking the whole ā€œhe didn’t get any lettersā€ and other fake narratives about Hobi for anyone who is interesting about learning about him 😊 https://x.com/cyb3rpunkt/status/1686828733464764417?s=61&t=GAQmmNBO8AB1vLlLoWObzQ

daydreamer18h

@Jay facts fr. Like why try to erase their history and struggle’s because you deem them negative? Or why try to deny things that actually happened and plays a factor in things? And thank you for saying we know Jk is the golden maknae and how much it’s pushed. I see Jimin get called an ace waaaaaay more than Jhope. And Jimin is my bias but Jhope is by far the top ace in the group and in the whole of K-pop. And if you don’t think looks play a role then that is just delusion. There’s a reason the rapline and vocalist music is not streamed the same way. And don’t say because they have solos. Solos are out performing army..? Or is army a lot more biased towards certain members for certain reasons…..

Ana

that narrative of him not receiving letters has also been proven false. It was a video taken out of context, from ONE day in which there were only a handful of letters in the fancafe (most written to the group, which mean most members didn’t have letters written to them) and Hobi made a joke and moved on with the video with no issues, people just keep sharing a few seconds of that video for the narrative without getting full context šŸ˜…I encourage you all to watch the video with the full context, understand the joke he made and also read the BTS book, in which Jimin clearly states they ALL received letters and gifts from fans since before debut (except for Tae who wasn’t introduced until debut so clearly wasn’t able to get letter before that). I also think you should read the interview in which Tae mentions how Hobi was so popular pre-debut, that everyone called BTS ā€œthe group with Jung Hoseokā€ and how when he arrived to their dorms thought Hobi was the visual because of how good looking he was :) always believe the members, not narratives created on the internet from 5 second clips taken out of context that contradict everything the members say :)

daydreamer18h

You right Peachy, it's not only you, many consider him the Ace of kpop! He covers all the bases with great skills. My man definitely deserves more recognition!šŸ”„šŸ’œ Kind of sad seeing here some arguments due to people coming with backhanded compliments

Purple Chamchi

JHope is simply a consummate performer - he can do it ALL and he knows what the audience wants, and he sees the big picture as far as a stage show or performance!!! I don't know if you've seen it yet, or if you are to that point in your album journey, but please be sure and watch him perform Just Dance LIVE when you can. You can really see what I'm talking about in that performance, and also in his live performance of Mama (the one with the gospel choir).

Mary Leona Weaver

Peachy the title tracks are always released at the same time with the album (or at least when it comes to BTS). The first MVs before the title tracks are usually the intros and the Comeback trailers that have been always solo songs (ex: Boy Meets Evil, What Am I to You, Serendipity, etc), or BU related stories like the prologue, this shirt films and the highlight reels. BTS, especially in chaper 2, release 1-2 MVs before the title track

Purple Chamchi

I actually disagree with Daydreamer as a Hobi bias…I get not wanting to spread negativity but there’s a difference between that and wanting to erase history…Namjoon and J-hope did in fact get the most heat for not fitting the KBS just a sad truth. J-Hope is extra confident BECAUSE OF the struggles he went through and how he rose above it and that more empowering than pretending it doesn’t exist….I will never forget his little face when he realized he didn’t receive one single fan comment or fan mail letter during their debut days but to go from that to the numbers he did at Hobi-palooza and having millions of people show up to chant his name in tsquare like that is a huge accomplishment guys and nice to see him getting the props he deserved and worked hard for. Like it’s okay to be a Hobi-Stan but let’s not be delusional…there is a reason people know the term Golden Maknae and they don’t know that J-Hope is considered an Ace (Peachy included) and that’s because both topics are not discussed on the same caliber…we need to push recognition and not diminish his battle with being seen but in hindsight I am glad that he does eventually get the recognition he deserves.

Jay18

Yes, j-hope is an ace!

nessa

J-hope is an ace , he’s so talented like crazy. I don’t understand why people equate beauty to be considered an ace , talent will give you that , beauty is subjective , how one defines beauty anyways? For me Hobi is overflowing with hotness , he is wearing confidence and swag like he wears his lv , chefs kiss.

Anj08@HOTSšŸ’œ

Love this thank you 🄰 @daydreamer18h

Anj08@HOTSšŸ’œ

Hobi is definitely an ace and if JK is the ā€œGolden Maknaeā€ then some ARMY’s consider J-Hope the ā€œGolden Hyungā€ he just doesn’t get the same attention in that regard as JK does unfortunately. But yes J-hope oooozes talent…it’s ridiculous lol

Jay18

OMG you said "you probably typing this but I did see this song" while I was literally writing it 😵😵

Hope

You finally getting why I was spamming this song šŸ™ŠšŸ™ŠšŸ™Š

Hope

The first time I listened to this song it had me in choke hold, this song is absolutely stunning and left me WANTING more of this energy from him... so imagine how happy I was when More and Arson dropped as well šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„ I live for edgy hobi

Hope

FinaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaallyyyyyyyy in jk's voice

Hope

Thank your for reaction, Peachy! By the way, Hobi's new song "LV Bag" will be released on Friday February 21!!! With Don Toliver and Pharrell! We are still waiting for information on whether there will be a music video or if Hobi will be in it.

daydreamer18h

every celebrity suffers from beauty standards, and they're awful and shouldn't exist. And because every single celebrity suffers from that, their fans shouldn't be spreading negative narratives created by haters as if they were not only facts, but a disadvantage in their career (when they are not because Hobi's career is great and he gets all his flowers). Speically bringing that up in topics where it is irrelevant... like when talking about Hobi being an ace :) Now... let's focus on what's important... "LV Bag" by Don Toliver , j-hope and Pharrell will be released on February 21! :)

daydreamer18h

Every celebrity suffers from beauty standards especially Korean idols. But I will reply no more. We just see things differently. Good night or good morning wherever you are in the world šŸ’œ

Ana

I see it and guess what... they are haters :) They do not speak facts or set the rules. There has never been an instance in which anyone who's not a hater with ill intent has said anything negative about Hobi or any of the member's looks. As for insecurities... I think it's a bit naive to expect someone to never have those, specially since we have seen the member pretty much grow up in front of our eyes. As for Hobi, he may be awful at getting compliments (about everything like I said before because he's so humble), but he has always been pretty confident about his looks... and it shows by how he's never been scared or nervous about looking sexy and acting sexy on stage :) Even recently he said in a weverse interview that he felt mature and sexy... that man is confident 100%!

daydreamer18h

Ok well I’m happy that you don’t see or experience the bad side of K-pop fandom and don’t see pretty privilege or things like colorism, height, weight. that all 7 have faced and expressed insecurity in. You need to tell me what side of the internet you’re on so I can stay there ā˜ŗļøšŸ’œ

Ana

There is literally no evidence of anyone saying Hobi doesn't fit korean beauty standards other than fans spreading that narrative in more recent years. The funny thing is, no one can explain exactly HOW he doesn't fit the standards because it's not true :) Again... Hobi has never once downplayed his looks. Do not confused Hobi being shy about getting compliments with him downplaying his looks because he has never done that. The member have called him handsome and complimented him multiple times, actually. Unfortunately it is people spreading that narrative and not wanting to realize the truth that keep Hobi or Namjoon from being able to break those boxes some people in the fandom keep putting them in. And yes, you're bringing j-hope down by making statements about his looks as if they are a disadvantage for him when they are not. He get his flowers and people who don't follow fake narratives created by haters, know he's the ace. As for me, I love all 7 and will never say or emphasize anything negative about any of them because that isn't kind. Specially something as subjective as looks and even worse, something I have no evidence of.

daydreamer18h

We’re just gonna have to agree to disagree. Because beauty standards play a role in everything. It could have been debunked but I still know what I see and what has been said. And I’m not alone in feeling this way. I don’t think screen time or roles play a part because Jhope is literally every role in the group. Hinata from XG has the least lines and least screen time. She had no lines in most songs but she is one of the most biased members. And she is considered the most beautiful member. So beauty standards do come into play. Maknae line music even gets the most attention and most of the comments about them is about their looks. Majority of humans are very superficial. Why do you think idols look the way they do? And it’s so much surgery? South Korea K-pop fans are some of the most savage people. And South Korea is a country that prioritizes beauty. We saw this with Jimin not wanting to show his buzzcut. Also never mentioned Jhope not like compliments about his performance or looks. I said that Namjoon and Jhope are the most vocal concerning their looks. They say it about themselves. Not anyone else. And if they keep downplaying their looks there must be a reason…? They must of saw something to make them feel that way… All the reasons you listed and you don’t think a tiny bit is due to beauty standards? Again all 7 are visuals and attractive af. Not bringing any of them down. Just stating one of the reason Jhope don’t get his shine. But have a good night šŸ’œ

Ana

That is absolutely false. There's tons of threads of X that debunk all of those narratives about j-hope. He was never unpopular and he was never not consider attractive. And never once has j-hope downplay his looks. He's just shy when getting compliments. About anything... he also gets shy when they compliment his performance and it's not because he thinks he's a bad performer. No one has ever said anything about his (or Namjoon's) looks except solos of other member and antis. Even if you look at KBS for men (tall, slim but toned, double eyelid, V-shaped, well-defined jawline, nice skin, nice hair, small face...) j-hope fits all those descriptors. So the narrative makes zero sense. The reason some members are more popular than others is the role they are given in the group. Unfortunately some members are given better line distribution, more center time, more screen time. Notice how that is relative to the "popularity". Give Hobi or Namjoon more center time and you'll see their popularity increase as well. So, as fans, let's not spread harmful narratives about the members we claim to love (when really making negative comments about his looks was absolutely unnecessary to talk about him being an ace). Instead we should fight against those awful narratives and emphasize the positive. Don't you think? Let me add one final thing... Idols are selected following extremely strict standards. They MUST fit those standards that include beauty standards. Both j-hope and Namjoon fit those standards or they wouldn't have been even considered to be idols at all. Now let's lift up our boys instead of spreading harmful (fake) narratives about them.

daydreamer18h

Don’t confuse my comment. Jhope is definitely super attractive. But KBS definitely comes into play regarding Jhope and Namjoon in terms of their popularity and recognition. KBS are complete bullshit. But it has affected the members even Jk and Jimin have dealt with it. There’s a reason those two Jhope and RM downplay their looks a lot. I noticed it in all of the compilations peachy have been watching. The maknae line are considered the most attractive and they gain more popularity. It sucks but that is the reality unfortunately

Ana

Looks don't play a role in being the ace since is based on skill BUT if looks played a role, then he's covering all the bases anyway! Because he's extremely good looking :)

daydreamer18h

j-hope is definitely the ace of K-pop. And just to clarify some (honestly) very disappointing comments here about his looks, those narratives about him not fitting Korean beauty standards are not true and were created by antis and solos of other members to hate on some specific members. j-hope is and has always been considered good looking in and outside South Korea. He was street casted to be the lead in a dance musical when he was a teen and there's videos of girls screaming "Hoseok!" loudly when he was performing with Yoongi and Namjoon in clubs in 2011 before debut (when BTS was only them 3). He was one of the first member to have a fan youtube channel to post fancams of him alone :) Here's a couple of videos to show what I mentioned: - https://x.com/cyb3rpunkt/status/1686644621223301122 - https://x.com/cyb3rpunkt/status/1687891072364457984 And by the way, don't believe also the narratives about the No More Dream mask (it was only part of the concept. It had nothing to do with his looks) or the fan letter (it was debunked in the BTS Book). Sorry about the rant... I really dislike people giving backhanded compliments about j-hope's looks based on narratives spread by haters, when we all can see he has always been good looking. Hobi is been talented and attractive and he is the ace of K-pop :)

daydreamer18h

Starting this off by saying is Jhope an Ace??… F*** Yes!!!šŸ˜šŸ’œ The ā€œAceā€ convo really depends on the POV like from a Korean Standard Jhope isn't conventionally Attractive so people don't give him that recognition/title as much as say JK or Jimin (JK fits the Korean Beauty Standard… Jimin is really interesting in this convo because like Jhope he doesn't fit the KBS but he is still considered good looking to a lot of people in Korea also there is less push back on his looks if there was some because of how popular he is in KoreašŸ’œšŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø) it's very nuanced the more I think about it From a Western POV Jhope is good looking and is talented enough to be an ace so he isšŸ˜‚šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ’œ But legitimately i think within BTS 3J are all Aces for sure. Ive seen people make strong arguments for V and Suga too It's a really weird conversation tbh if you actually think about deeply šŸ˜…šŸ’œ

Kona

And that’s on purr

Ana

j-hope is the Ace of Kpop. There are a lot of idols that can do a little bit of everything, well. But no one is doing everything at the level j-hope is. Like he's one of the best rappers in kpop (my personal favorite), the best dancer in kpop, the best performer in kpop (in the industry, really), a prolific songwriter (with 146 songs to his name), a producer, and has vocals so good that in any other group he could be a lead vocalist. There's this meme that goes viral every once in a while on twitter that says "maturing is realizing j-hope is the only idol that is truly an Ace." I mean, there are other aces in the game of course...but I genuinely contend there's no one that does it all at the level j-hope does. As the boys of BTS once said "j-hope has no weaknesses." And he's fine AF, on top of it all. OOF. What a MAN!!

SNBangtan

Yes, j-hope is definitely an ace! One of the most talented people I’ve ever seen ever. He really put everything into this, his first ever solo music video, his first ever solo BTS song, he was so excited to be in charge of the album intro for the first time. His dance here is iconic!

CC

I was typing that you had seen this choreo right when you said it šŸ˜‚

KP

Jhope is definitely the ace of K-pop but unfortunately looks play a role in him not getting his flowers.

Ana


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