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Rhiannon Interviews Mahmoud Khalil

On this episode of Popular Cradle, (Rhiannon’s other podcast!), she interviews Columbia grad student Mahmoud Khalil, who was detained by ICE for more than 100 days earlier this year. You can find Popular Cradle wherever you listen to podcasts.

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The Road To Peace is long. We are lost on the outskirts. I hope we can all find a path back to The Road...

Shawn Galbraith

Mahmoud Khalil says he wants to center Gaza and the liberation of Palestine, and also that the interest of the liberation movement should be collective and incorporate other liberation movements and not rely on purity tests. I'd be interested to hear more about what that all means. As for the assertion that more than 50% of Americans now support Palestine, I look forward to hear more about what that means to Mahmoud and others about the current reality and the next steps that he alludes to here. I recognize that right now, Gaza is largely in ruins and a large portion of the current project is to stop the war and Israeli oppression that continues to threaten the freedom of the people there. There has been a dearth of Palestinian voices in America, so I hope more people speak up and help us all understand what we can do, what their goals are, and how they plan to gain support from folks around the world for the next steps. It's good to hear him say he supports a sensible solution with an open mind. My understanding of "mainstream" American support for Palestine is that support is mostly couched in opposition to American Governmental and Military support for Israel, Netanyahu, and the far right wing goverrnment there. Most of us have very little understanding of the struggle for a free Palestine. It will be crucial to maintaining support here, if that is a goal, that Americans understand the goals of The Palestinians at large and feel they can support those goals. I just wanna say to Mahmoud that while some people in power are not staying steadfast in their support for free speech, human rights, due process, and freedom, many of us oppose those violations and are doing our best to do so on a daily basis. We are opposed to what happened to you and others who are being abducted by the Trunp administration. Please don't dismiss the American ideals you might share just because some people are abusing their power. I know you said we should be scared of them and yes, people should be cautious, but we can't let our fears drive us away from the principled fight ahead. I know it is likely impossible to imagine right now, but, as an American, the only thing that makes sense for me for the Israel/Palestine region is for the Israelis and Palestinians to figure out a way to establish one secular democratic state that protects religious freedom and equality under the law for all people. They should agree to freedom of movement for all, freedom of expression for all, freedom of religion for all, individual self-determination for all and proportional representative government for the new state. I understand that Khalil cannot see right now how the Israeli Government can be forgiven and not held accountable for the destruction and many Israelis are still unforgiving about October 7 and all the previous fighting. In my view, all war crimes should be prosecuted by the ICC or by the new free government to be established or a truce drafted and agreed to. I don't believe 2 states will ever lead to peace. I don't want the USA to support Israel if they plan to continue their plan of oppressive subjugation and death in Palestine & I don't support a vision of Palestine that wants to kill Jews and/or remove them from the Middle East. I believe it is the duty of The United States to cease all military and economic and political support of any ethnic or religious or etho-religious state or any state so established that wants to continue combat with their neighbors. The USA should support a vision for one state based on secular liberal democratic principles and natural human rights. Nothing more, nothing less.

Shawn Galbraith


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