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Welcome to Law School 2025

Kudos to everyone who is starting law school in this economy and during an authoritarian regime. In this annual episode, Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael share their wisdom on how to survive law school. 

Thank YOU, subscribers! You keep us going in more ways than you know.

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5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations. Transcriptions of each episode are available at fivefourpod.com 

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IDK if this has ever been recommended by the pod ever, but I consider Dean Spade's essay "For Those Considering Law School" essential reading for people considering law school (which I was, once!) as a path to social justice work. I really can't hype up Dean's work enough

wormwrangler

Sidebar: have you ever fucked with the speed and slowed it to .5 speed to listen to the gang on barbituates?

Sam Ziemer

"Wow this is going to be so helpful, what great advice!" - Me, a 31 year old HR worker with no plan or intent to ever go to law school.

Ty

Over 15 years ago, I dropped out of law school after 3 semesters. During it, My hair grayed, my immune system was so shot that I got a random bacterial infection they couldn’t diagnose AND meningitis, and ya know what? I’d go again. The real life value of ANY legal training has been invaluable as a POC. Never paying the loans off tho 😆

Lis

He got a new mike(apart from the two Michaels he already has🙈) . He spoke about it in IBCK

Vaidehi Krishnan


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