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The Drydock - Episode 208 (Part 1)

The Drydock - Episode 208 (Part 1)

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Very interesting take that perhaps it was pressures on land that compelled many peoples to take to the sea. I’m not sure if anyone in the archaeological/anthropological community has considered that possibility before!

The Rogue Chief

I thought I recognized that name - that was the former S.S. Eastland, infamous for capsizing at dock with a Westinghouse family excursion group aboard killing heartbreaking numbers of people. One common claim about the ship was that it was unstable, and then made more so when it had to come in compliance with the new maritime safety regulations enacted after the loss of RMS Titanic.

SendPenguins

Escher Wyss Zurich startet with variable pitch propellers for small ships and used it as starting point for aircraft propellers. It even startet in another field though, water turbines. The first prototype ship is still around, its the MS Etzel on lake zurich from 1934. Www.msetzel.ch

Felix B

Wellll... If the Brits lost 1 for 1 and the Germans had nothing left, it wouldn't matter which Royal Navy ships were left. Hell, the Royal Navy could put some ships in reserve and save some money. The 12" ships would have been as good as the 15" ships if there were nothing but pre-Dreadnaughts left on the German side.

Ted Jones

Nelson commended the skipper of HMS Glatton after Copenhagen - Captain William "Breadfruit" Bligh

ROBERT NABORNEY

Good answer on primitive seafaring. Watercraft are a toolset and the most important force at work in their development is pressure on land, usually population pressure, often violent. Those are push factors. Pull factors include fish protein, which seems to explain for some anthropologists just why Homo sapiens spread from the southern coastal tip of Africa along the Indian Ocean littoral rather than overland, and might explain why sea protien is essential to our brain development. Even today, a population heat map shows that we mostly live near coasts and rivers, where our best evidence is that humans have always developed watercraft optimized for the local conditions. If you can tie things together, you can make a raft of logs or reed bundles. If you can cut a log, you can build a canoe. So whereas the Nile has northerly winds and a southerly current, so that you can easily sail upriver and float back down, the Tennessee is steep and full of rapids and the winds blow the wrong way on the Mississippi. Thus, sails were useful on the Nile but not in North America, while the lack of trees ruled out a birchbark canoe in Egypt. We've been making these efficiency choices as far back as we can see.

Matt Osborne

Are we amphibious Ribbit Ribbit

ROBERT NABORNEY

http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/014164.jpg

ROBERT NABORNEY

USS Kearsarge's conversion to Crane Ship Number 1. Mississippi served as a missile test ship in the Fifties. http://navsource.org/archives/01/041/014153t.jpg

ROBERT NABORNEY

Add the gunboat USS Wilmette, a converted Great Lakes excursion ship. She was based at Chicago's Navy (duh) Pier. Interwar she trained Naval Reservists from states adjoining the Lakes - during Prohibition port calls in Canada were a highlight of training cruises! During WW2, she naval armed guards prior to their being assigned to merchant ships. She actually sank a German U-Boat in Lake Michigan. The USN took some captured U-Boats on tour around the US. One was assigned to the Lakes and after her touring was completed was sunk as a target by the Wilmette.

ROBERT NABORNEY

As far as the RN being the only operator of battlecruisers after "Jutland - the Battle of Annihilation", didn't the IJN have the four Kongos...As a matter of fact, I can see them joining the RN ships at Rosyth as the Second or Third Battlecruiser Squadron as a result of that battle. Renown and Repulse became operational in late 1916. HMS Eagle would be completed as a battleship and she and her sister, HMS Canada, would be retained by the RN post-war, as would HMS Erin. After the US entered the war in April 1917, I can see a mighty effort being made to get all her dreadnoughts - oil fueled or not - to Scapa. Add Brazil, which joined the Entente in October 1917, and had two ships to contribute as well. Of course, with the High Sea Fleet destroyed, maybe Allied reinforcements would not be needed. What Britain would build in terms of its emergency battlewagons would make for an interesting contest using SpringSharp with the winning designs being featured on a Friday episode.

ROBERT NABORNEY

A Drydock and the HMS Neptune guide all at the same time! You spoil us Drach, you really do!!

Graham William Kidd


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