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Axe To Grind
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New music; dunking a basketball; Botch; fests for aging alts; hair; Jawbreaker; scene police; directing major motion pictures after your ska career stalls; more

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I don’t get why Botch and Cave In are put head-to-head like this. Both are fantastic, but Cave In from are from that same “hardcore kids with leftover Slayer riffs” school as early Converge. I don’t think Botch had much in the way of actual metal influence, they just wanted to push their older hardcore sound into weird places and it ended up heavier, but they’re way more about texture than riffs, especially on WATR. I recently read a great article about the writing of that record where Brian Cook basically details how they went into that record wanting to cut out power chords from their sound and have the bass and guitar occupy very different frequencies rather than double up. (Article: https://machinemusic.net/2020/09/08/pillars-of-the-90s-brian-cook-talks-botchs-we-are-the-romans/amp/ ). Listening back to the record after reading that, I noticed quite a few little details I’d missed before.

Dan Smith

Agree, Jupiter was their absolute peak and all the proggy Rush hints finally found their habitat.

Botch vs Cave In plays out this way for me - on Until Your Heart Stops, you can hear that Brodsky really wants to write a record like Jupiter but is at a waypoint before he gets there, so it always felt like it had one foot in that other place for me. Botch was just being Botch, and on We Are The Romans, they're the strongest version of themselves.


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