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C!!8 pages 36-42

CW: domestic violence/ child abuse

7 new pages :3, which means we are now at page 40~, which is the half on the chapter.

For the second half, I need to think of drastic workload-reducing ways or a workflow where I can find my concentration and a bit of energy again because ... the way I crawled through this first half was hell oof.

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Comments

Thank you for highlighting how one form of physical abuse shouldn't be seen as "better" or more acceptable than another. My dad controlled me and my brothers through the fear of being spanked. The fact that he wasn't (usually) hitting us in the face didn't make a difference in the end. Abuse is abuse, fear is fear, trauma is trauma.

Kappathefish

I love how you portrayed Reubens family through this scene, they feel like real people handling stressful situations in not the best way.

JaySevun

I was never rooting for the mom mainly because of the empathy I feel for Reuben's dad. I don't agree with his actions, but we've also seen zero support for him so far as a parent and I know that if I ever became a parent, I would need a partner to be there to take over when my own neurodivergence resulted in me getting overwhelmed and needing to either walk away or throw my own tantrum. Coldly calculated violence applied to solve a problem feels way worse than his dad's impulsive reactions, though. Mostly because I think that if his dad was given tools to manage his own emotional impulsivity that he'd do better with Reuben

ChesterSnap

No, they often do it because they don't know what else to do because this was how they were punished as kids and don't think about the consequences of teaching a kid that violence is the best method to teach something and enforce your will. By attributing bad behavior to being a natural behavior only stoppable by the fear of punishment (being caught), what you're saying is that there is no reasoning with them logically which is probably the same reason they're hitting their kid. Adults don't magically obtain knowledge and experience - we repeat the things we're taught as kids and are fully capable of learning new habits and reactions just like children but they need to be taught. The frequency in which I see people suggest that adults just "be better" without any sort of dialogue as to why they have those bad habits in the first place and how to counteract them just freaking sends me. I was going to jokingly blame Pokémon evolutions but I think the actual issue is how we often teach history as something disconnected from the now. Children aren't a separate species

ChesterSnap

Hmmmm, I think the discussions should happen but I don't think they'd do much in the short term. If Reuben's having an autistic meltdown than a conversation about how to react (particularly in the moment) isn't going to do much because the meltdown is happening due to emotional processing difficulties. He needs help learning how to process those emotions and nobody absorbs information we'll when upset. I said this on a previous page (set of pages?), but I strongly suspect his father needs the same training. I think RReuben gets his neurodivergence from his dad As for what to actually do in the moment.... no idea. As someone who can't handle tantrums because that amount of noise will blank my brain, I'd put on multiple levels of hearing protection and just make sure they didn't hurt themselves while they worked through their tantrum. Actually, I'd do what I'm currently doing and just not have kids but that's a personal choice and having autism shouldn't mean you shouldn't have children

ChesterSnap

I am not a parent. However, I know that children can be very frustrating sometimes, and there are parents who lack skills and/or guidance as to how to deal with situations like these. It seems that Ruben's patents were very young, he was their only child, and they had some issues between themselves as a couple. They acted that way towards him because they couldn't find a different outlet for their frustration on one hand, and couldn't figure out a different way to effectively deal with Ruben's excessive energy and tantrums on the other hand.

Bez

I kind of understanding both the parents and Ruebens perspectives. The only problem i have is that physical punishment should not replace civilized discussion. Parents need to explain situations to children and teach them how to appropriately handle disappointment, sadness, and other feelings. 4 is not outside of the age where the concept of low ses will be too hard to understand. But you need parents who are able to have that conversation.

KingBronxcyc

Ich fühle sehr mit Reuben, ich bin ähnlich aufgewachsen und habe mich mit meinem damaligen undiagnostizierten AuDHD ähnlich gefühlt. Ich mag wie du ohne viel Erklärung diesen psychologischen Aspekt der Situation realistisch rüber bringst. Und die Bilder sind auch so gut, wirklich tolle Arbeit!! Ich freu mich auf den Rest 🩷

Blue

You home is supposed to be a safe space and your parents are supposed to be the people that love you for being yourself. Ab#se won't teach a kid what's wrong with their behaviour. Parents "punish" their kids in such ways, because realistically, they won't get any consequences for this stuff anyways.

Nicole R.

My heart for Reuben he’s always been my favorite <3

Polythix

See, I think there are ways where such discipline I would be accepting of even if I wouldn't utilize them myself, but I also am part of and know too many households that have trauma from physical disciplinary measures. My father was an ex military abusive drunk to my mom and his kids, we got much more than spankings or belts. So it just kinda makes me think that even if there was an ethical way to spank, it ain't even worth the risks

Tanky Crobat

I love that cereal box design! I want the crying dino!

Diego P

Ahh ok

Kelton Jones

As latino child I can relate a lot with Reuben, experienced the same kind of upbringing, and being autist didn't help to be understood, neither my interest or personality

Job Levi Sanchez Garcia

I wanted to start when I have the current chapter finished as a buffer.

Yaa

When are u gonna start posting on tapas again???

Kelton Jones


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