About the chapter 2
Added 2024-04-10 21:56:08 +0000 UTCI will be honest, I am going to try soraue recipe since chapter 1 mistake there is no Jack pov that much for him to be even relevant tbh.
Which I 100% assure, a lot of people will be mad since I want to focus the story on him risen to hero fighting monster king.(Yes, I am still planning for that monster king combat rather than pure RPGM combat and try to fund a bit for that chapter 2, in terms of finding the plugins and time investment for coding a plugin myself(Sex Stats thing which people have a lot of crashes).)
Dual story is cool and all but at this point, the story will gone haywire and the game will be at permanent stuck and will never reach chapter 4, let alone chapter 3(Which the party will venture going through the ruins and learning more who Sayako actually are, how Aetherians truly died out). Since, people hate soft resets anyway.
I don't mind doing that NTS storyline, but it will end up as NTR tbh. Because for it to be pure NTS, it is plain impossible. Like I said, for it to be pure NTS, Sayako need to be deleted. One of the main reason why I said, that was my long term vision for chapter 4 to happen, but I didn't know NTS hated NTR so much. It ain't going to cut it. Unless, I totally rewrite Sayako herself and try to make the "talk no jutsu" to work. Which, I am not going to rewrite anymore. I only rewrite the part where her revenge is so petty or she is not truly in character.
So, I am going to work on NTR and NTR only. Because the potential is truly there. There is more to NTR rather than pure r*pe. I don't mind doing it but it just killed the impact for the main story, that's why I don't want to do it tbh. That Paradise Island will have it.
Also, not I want to cuck people keep using Jack. I want people get the good stuff when Sayako is at her full power.
Comments
"Alice is sexually frustrated, should be no problem." The question is: whether Alice is so sexually frustrated that she is willing to fight against her adopted son, who can't do anything about it. Sexual frustration associated with heartache. Could strengthen willingness and one wrong word from Jack could escalate things. If Sayako cares about turning the girls against Jack. Persuading the girls to fight Jack as a kind of training under realistic circumstances, without him knowing that it is training, with unexpected consequences for everyone involved. "manipulate people around him bit by bit." Jack is also not free from manipulation; after all, he blindly trusts Sayako without questioning what she does. Which makes her easily susceptible to her corruption but at the moment it's too early for Sayako to corrupt Jack until the time comes. Jack basically corrupts himself, the one time for the NTR part in Chapter 1, where he lied to himself and even though he looks like he's happy on the outside, he's lonely on the inside, despite 2 sex scenes, but that changes in the long run not much about his loneliness. From his point of view, everyone is having sexual fun except him and that has the potential to escalate.
Sakui
2024-04-14 15:38:34 +0000 UTCSayako is different entity. What I am trying to do is, Sayako acting nice with Jack and stuff but behind his back, she is up to nothing good and will manipulate people around him bit by bit. Sanako and Ayako got even more dependant on Sayako, that's what I am trying to build up tbh. That's why everything feels so rushed since I thought people only interested in sex but I was wrong tbh. That's why it is really tricky to be totally realistic. I might touch temporary hypnotize, not totally brainwash. Brainwash will 100% kill the NTR feeling imo since that will kill the attachments. Lust crest I can touch. Alice is sexually frustrated, should be no problem. Kana is the problem and I need to avoid her being a total bitch. This is why NTR is really tricky. NTS, I know how it would go and it become an NTR imo. Cause the usual NTS, Jack will tell Kana to go have sex with Sayako. Which in turns, it is Jack own fault that he got NTRed himself due to not knowing Sayako is there to screw him up. To be pure NTS and without NTR happens like warped desires, Sayako have to be deleted(Hence, the sealing and chapter 4 are stopped since she wasn't able to reach her goal). But, tbh, I prefer getting her. She is just too good to pass up. The reason I don't want to do r*pe, it is because r*pe killed the impact before the story able to be built up. That's why I don't want to do it that early. There is a reason why talk no jutsu won't happen and I hope that chapter 3 will explain a lot why she won't be able to be "convinced". I know some did see I am trying to let people play as Sayako in the future, but I am more interested to let people getting her with full power. Paradise Island will use Sayako but everything won't make any sense and how limitless potential she will have.
Paradox V
2024-04-14 03:19:39 +0000 UTC"I will try to find a plot point why Sayako is so hostile against Jack later in the storyline itself and why she wanted to tear the party apart(NTRing or try to turn the girls against him)." Hmmm. So far I haven't had the feeling that Sayako is hostile towards Jack. They even had a day off together, even the first day off ingame, and it seemed like the two of them were building up a little friendship, especially because Sayako invited Jack to the day off (also at the NTR part). Of course I don't know what will happen in the next chapters if it's pure NTR, but in Chapter 1 Sayako didn't give the impression that she hates Jack in the NTR part either, unless Sanako and Ayako are secretly still pissed at Jack because of the fusion thing. Could it be in Chapter 2 that things change? that Sayako specifically wants to make Jack angry because the ancient soul in Sayako senses sleeping powers in Jack over time, which Sayako wants to awaken because Jack's true powers are part of her true plan. Turning Alice and Kana against Jack will probably be very, very difficult for Sayako, even if the first argument breaks out between Jack and Kana, which only lasts a short time. Just a thought, not important. The easiest thing would be for Sayako to exploit her old enemies from the Knights of Juno. Send a letter by magic to the Knights of Juno, for example inside the letter it says that the Goddess of Destruction is back, so that a few Knights of Juno attack Jack, a fight which he loses and Jack's faith in the Knights of Juno is destroyed becomes. Sayako barely had to do anything except protect Jack at the right moment when Jack was seriously injured on the ground. Would have several advantages for Sayako, on the one hand, destroying Jack's mental and physical and making him more vulnerable to Dark Corruption and gaining his loyalty to turn the hero into a villain servant. On the other hand, Sayako would be loved even more by the Girl's Party members, especially Alice and Kana, securing their loyalty since Sayako saved Jack's life. Along the way, Sayako would make Jack and the rest of the group begin to hate the Knights of Juno. This would show the player how clever and sneaky Sayako is. Let's see what comes.
Sakui
2024-04-14 00:14:52 +0000 UTCYeah, I feel that. I haven't made a game before, but I have written a couple of stories, and it's not as easy as people think. I just want to see this be as close as possible to the original vision, but I also know that crunch time and people in general will be mean and criticize the thing before it can be fleshed out and explained, pulling it in every direction. It will be difficult. But for now please focus on you health and try and make a speedy recovery so it can be the best quality possible. Can I get a link for the game animation because I either can't find it or it's not work. Please.
Pederson28
2024-04-13 23:34:57 +0000 UTCthat's why, this will be the last series of doing NTR or NTS or whatever it is. Because I am trying to build up Sayako getting power bit by bit. Since, I am more interested in getting there. But yeah, I will just pace myself. Cause, even some update people hate and said lacking. That's why I only ask for 3usd and I will be able to work in peace. Some even complaining I am not trying to complete the game, hence, starting of scrap and starting to bulldoze this. It doesn't sound mean, the real mean will be insulting when I already work on a lot of things. I ended up hitting the point of, screw this. I am going to proceed since whatever I do, people going to hate anyways. Hence, starting the scrap of a lot of things and stop doing dual story. Since, I am trying to get there asap. I know a lot of people wanted to play as Sayako, but that is the reason why people wasn't able to use her yet. Like I said, I don't mind skipping and also being an NTR dev, don't earn a lot and will get a lot of hate. I can see why some NTR game ends up go to a weird direction.
Paradox V
2024-04-13 21:16:17 +0000 UTCYou are going to get hate because futa fantasy is NTR and NTR inherently glorifies and fetishized cheating on the significance other and as humans we have since the dawn of time cheating has been frowned upon in every culture and it doesn't help that people have you know basic empathy for bad situations and seeing someone get stabed in the back by there significant other kinda kicks that in even if it's a fictional setting in a fictional universe with people who we will never meet that's why can feel bad for like Anakin Skywalker, Magnito, Thanos, joker (depending on the version), sandman,clay face, killer croc, gollum, etc etc all of them can on some level can be have some level of sympathy given to them because something happens to them can make us have some sympathy or pity for them. You are going to have to work like double if not triple as hard to have anyone feel not feel bad for anyone that isn't jack because by you own mouth he can't stop it because if he does what's the point. Sorry if this came across as mean or condensing it just the way to have people to not hate this as much will cause even more problems because you either have to get rid of Jack or make him such a unbearable unreasonable asshole and I mean like a actual domestic abuser mixed with drug addic or alcoholic that's like going out of his way to kick puppy's and kitten because because you already refused to make him more intelligent so the only other thing that I can think of it to make Sayako the lesser of two evils because you given yourself almost no wiggle room and I don't know what to give you what won't be discarded or shut down.
Pederson28
2024-04-13 19:38:49 +0000 UTCThat's what I am stuck in. Because I am touching reincarnation and change. Mixed that with a fusion gimmick. Too many gimmicks or the story will go haywire and become much more confused. Hence, the single storyline. I didn't want to add any characters yet as of now. I know in OG game have Joanna, but I am not going to add a lot of characters suddenly shows up. She will come back, but not now. I will try to find a plot point why Sayako is so hostile against Jack later in the storyline itself and why she wanted to tear the party apart(NTRing or try to turn the girls against him). I am not into staying in one game for far too long. Those characters I mentioned will have their relevant in chapter 4, which the party will reach the Ancient City of Juno or whatever it is. But at this point, I am going to bulldoze through a bit. Cause, no matter what I do, people will keep on hating and I have no idea why. So, that's the reason I started to delete discord and stuff. I already have a health problem(If people give a shit and the reason why I said, I can't stay in one game for far too long.)
Paradox V
2024-04-13 17:06:52 +0000 UTC"But, if I make Jack too smart, why would he let it be?" In the case of Juliette and Yuki, Jack couldn't care less who or what they have sex with, regardless of whether it's Sayako (even if he knew Sayako had a dick) or someone else. In the case of Alice, Jack and Kana could definitely be interested. Since both adopted children by Alice, Jack would not intervene and would rather be happy for Alice. Except that Kana will get mad at Sayako easily, but Sayako is good with words and gets it sorted out and continues to corrupt Kana. In the case of Kana, Jack might be interested, but the anger would be directed at Kana rather than Sayako as he would be more disappointed in Kana. Jack and Kana didn't get together until Day Off at the fireworks (both NTR and NTS selections). Kana could have told Jack that she was in a relationship with Sayako and asked Jack if he had a problem with that or if he would prefer to remain brother and sister (not biological siblings), which she never did. "I also ended up need to make him weak so that NTR can happens. If that happens, Sayako need to be superbly strong which in this case, she is in a really weak state." It's also a big advantage for story reasons, including for character development and in the fights, Jack is very weak compared to Sayako, but who knows (except the game developer, of course) whether he still has sleeping powers that should never be awakened. There is also the text at the obelisk about the Goddess of Origins and in the castle, in the library the story about Nyxaris the Goddess of Destruction, Auroraia the Goddess of Creation and Azreala the Goddess of Death. I'm curious to see if all of this is connected, I'll be surprised.
Sakui
2024-04-12 10:45:08 +0000 UTCMost people hate NTR usually a brain damage skyrim guard MC, which I will try to avoid that. But, if I make Jack too smart, why would he let it be? I also ended up need to make him weak so that NTR can happens. If that happens, Sayako need to be superbly strong which in this case, she is in a really weak state. Like, really weak to be able to do her thing, the magical cum is still there, but it is not really strong enough. It will have the full potential when she have the 2 shard that I planned. 1 shard is monster king, 1 shard is dragon of ruins(Chapter 3). I did think of doing a side story which will be based on her before this timeline happens, but that can be done when chapter 2 complete(Which a possible hint of her true name). That is the period when she have the full power and why she turned evil. Like I said, I like a complex villain rather than pure petty rather than "That girl have a nice ass." or "I want sex.". But I was totally wrong, I thought people more interested in sex only, but people more interested in the story itself. That Paradise Island will be pure nukige with no relation to the main story, that's why it is 0 story and the girl aren't real there.
Paradox V
2024-04-12 06:47:56 +0000 UTCThank you for answering my questions honestly. Honestly, I think the best NTR imo is the ones that are treated like it's a mystery and drop hints throughout so a reveal can happen that's foreshadowed beforehand and I'd the characters to be treated right all of them to come away smart for example the camp part you could have it were he finds some of her used condoms lying around ( I doubt she would use any) or some clever shadow play where he can tell something going on but can't tell and is not wanting to disturb them, then you could have it where the players gets extra scenes and he doesn't quite piece it together until it's too late but is proven to be smart on his own without feelings like a brain damage Skyrim guard. I don't know and I won't tell you how to build your game anymore, probably because I'm curious how this plays out. While I may not like NTR, I'm only here for futa and I just like stuff being brought out it's full potential I just like thowing my 2 cents in I'm sure you get a lot's of people tell you stuff just like what I just type out.
Pederson28
2024-04-12 01:41:11 +0000 UTCTo be honest, I am not capable to port it into mobile. I apologize for that. Yes, but I am trying to avoid Jack having a huge brain damage like skyrim guard meme. This is why NTR pretty much work imo, cause sayako are still the only futa and Jack literally have no idea Sayako have a dick. If jack stops Sayako, chapter 4 won't happen imo, cause I need her to win and gain full power, that is my old vision before I started this game, the reason I stopped doing nts, I have no clue a lot of nts fans hated ntr. In NTS, sayako got sealed, which will stop her goal, but it is just a light ntr. Like I said, I never change much in my original plan I wrote in jira docs. Sayako lore and potential is limitless when she have the full power. Cause the original plan, the game will be full ntr and it will turn into nettori, which people will use her. Paradise island thing is just for me to have fun without stressing about the story or whatever it is since I am still planning for that monster king.
Paradox V
2024-04-12 00:01:56 +0000 UTCSo, a couple of questions: Is this going to be ported to mobile? My PC caught fire, and I won't be able to afford a new one for a while. Also, how heavily are you going to go on the NTR? I'm not a huge fan because a lot of NTR have almost every character act like idiots for the NTR to happen or purposely ignore the NTR happening to them. Finally, will there be an ending where Jack stops Sayako, or at the very least, where Sayako gets a bad ending?
Pederson28
2024-04-11 20:47:49 +0000 UTCI like this idea then.. good luck.
D0
2024-04-11 15:17:04 +0000 UTCit is still the same link. Just I shut down discord because it is biting my ass due to answer people question but it ended up biting my ass even I am being honest and stuff. Which ends up, everything spoiled a lot as well.
Paradox V
2024-04-11 14:12:11 +0000 UTCit is pure Jack pov. That's what I meant by soraue recipe. Like fujino did with his scatach. Because his story is seriously lacking and people see him just "being there to be cuck" or "More to Sayako building her harem". That's what I meant by mistake, I did the same as scars of summers because I am trying to avoid the mistake fujino did with his SAO NTR finale, because he got rip to shred for that. Basically, I am trying to avoid making people feel like a cuck, but in this case, anything I do, people will keep hating anyways. So, I am going to try what soraue did and see how many people will get infinitely mad.
Paradox V
2024-04-11 14:08:22 +0000 UTCSince the discord is down are you planning on making somewhere to put the game animations at?
Even-Motor516
2024-04-11 11:10:53 +0000 UTCSo Jack isnt going to be your pov for chapter 2?... Thats a shame. Wanted more of chapter 1s teasing- like the tent scenes and such. But eh.. Maybe he will reclaim some pov in future too. Or maybe misunderstood(non-english throwin me off a bit)
D0
2024-04-11 09:45:51 +0000 UTCI like what you're doing, keep up the good work and don't let the haters get to you.
Anon
2024-04-10 23:14:56 +0000 UTC
