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fixed some parts, added 1 page for better flow to the next episode.

The next update will be followed by the next story.


I can't reply the message during drawing because there are so many messages, please understand! 😭


Thank you!

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Cool, but here are the true, loyal, paying fans. And ultimately it doesn't matter what the fans think, it's about what the creator wants to draw.

Beepy

on other pages where he has posted the majority of it was against the old bastard.

satyriasis

On page 6: "Shouldn't we probably get going soon?" is a little out of order, it should be either "Shouldn't we get going soon?" or "We should probably get going soon." Same thing for "Guess it's time for the finish as usual" slightly out of order, I'd put it as "Guess it's time for the usual finish" or "Guess it's time to finish as usual" Page 8 "Peaky" is a British word, so it might be more understood to just use "pale" or "flushed" --- As for the change itself, it doesn't really bother me personally, but isn't the entire series about everyone having sex? I don't really see how this is considered the only scene with NTR. The original gives it a bit of lore for Yuko's beginnings. But either way, really well done as always! :)

Ainsley

Few notes on the English translation: The translation is good, you don't need to change anything; there are just a few things I wanted to point out for more natural speaking. On panel 2 using 'just' multiple times feels awkward (though it is somewhat normal for people to do in regular speech, it's much more awkward to read it) I'd personally write it as "It's just, things have been so incredibly hectic, I haven't had a chance to come see you." adding 'see you' makes it flow a little more naturally, but without it has some slight sexual connotation if that's your style ^^ Also and page 2 and page 4 1:"It's been a while for here too" and 2:"Here's just the same as always" Again, this isn't wrong, it's just a little awkward. 1: There's no easy one word replacement, but I'd probably go with something like "It's been a while since our last time, hasn't it?" 2: I'd just replace it with something like - "You feel the same as always" again removing the 'just' for brevity / flow.

Ainsley

You don't get to have a say in what Pepper draws.

Beepy

I don't like old people and ntr and I should just swallow it and keep quiet? Well then, I'm sorry, I forgot that his works are purely for jerking off.

AlmostCry19

I definitely prefer the original. But it's your art, so draw what you want. As for the people acting like it was a betrayal. No one betrayed anyone. It's fiction, just a drawing and story. Get a nut off, or not, and move on. If you don't like it, no big deal. As for the addition of dialog. Love it, especially the small exchanges in the middle, like how she marvels at th re strength of her dad.

blumpsie

Nah, you can get stuffed and touch grass. People crying over her with the dad are hypocrites of the highest order and acting like entitled Chinese gacha spergs as if you were personally cuckolded in real life.

Dumbermancer

Maybe we can still see Yuko in a .5 update with the sons, could be good for the people who have to wait.

SageTheMage

Pepper0 confirms in an earlier comment that they have had sex before. I would like to imagine it started quite early on, because it's hot and is another avenue to get a loli character.

Bxxo

I personally didn't have an issue with the first version. I actually kinda thought it explained the foundation of her experiences growing up and that's how it translated to her doing the same with the boys almost like tradition. That being said mom and the boys are by far my favorite so I do mirror others concerns when i say that it sucks knowing the rotation of this many characters means we sometimes have to wait multiple months for another illustration. I think this particular storyline has turned into a lot of drama and you'll never be satisfied if you listen to the vocal minority, so my recommendation to you is to try to get the general idea of how people feel overall, not just the loud ones. And at the end of the day it's your art so fuck everyone else.

pxiv_anon

Forgot to say, adding dialogues and manga style is a very good decision (not with old man) . I can't wait for manga stories with the boys.

AlmostCry19

Anyway, the chapter had a very bad effect on the overall picture. As a fan of Yuko, I was very, very upset. Like, the whole mood got incredibly worse. And even now, after the changes, the effect of some kind of betrayal remains. And it's very sad. However, the change was quite good, although I would have preferred that this dream was dreamed by the grandfather. I pray that he never appears in the future and everything remains only between the boys. And that no one except the boys appears at all. And it's also very painful that we will have to wait a long time until the new update with Yuko, in order to see her with the boys. I respect your work, but this is very painful. In any case, thanks for the past works and, I hope, for your future ones..

AlmostCry19

My headcanon: she didn't fuck her father, yet.

Shinzo

Okay. I'm glad it wasn't a case of people harassing you into changing your story. I'm a fan of incest, regardless of the age or gender of its participants, and I've been loving this series. Keep up the great work.

zeikcied

I like the original better. :(

urkel_berk

Look at the other comments, you're definitely not in the minority. Most of us liked the original better.

Beepy

Might be the minority here but I think the original is better. While I was neutral about the grandpa I think the fact that they actually fucked first thing seeing each other is infinitely more hot than her daydreaming about it. Still I respect it if that's the direction you want. Well done regardless. Love your work

SMTTSSS

While I had absolutely no issue at all with the original release, I have to say seeing Yuko's lusting for her dad in a daydream is insanely hot. And I like that you still kept the major theme of the episode intact. Very well done!

lolifren

thank you for the work you put in, please continue doing what you feel is right! I'll support you either way... but please don't let the negativity get to you!

Ponderosa

If you want my opinion, personally I like this new character, it's a good addition to the plot and was never a big deal to fuss about. Hopefully we can move on. Another user here suggested that this could have been a .5 update, which is fair.

SageTheMage

Haven't seen this yet, going to class right now but hope you're satisfied with the result and doing well ❤️. Keep doing what you love.

SageTheMage

And it’s your own work, your own space! Just because a few boring haters with their narrow-minded views piped up, you had to change the story. I’m honestly kinda pissed for you—obviously at those idiot trolls, not you! それに、これって君の作品スペースじゃん! つまんない人生で視野狭い酸民のせいで、ストーリー変えなきゃいけなかったなんて。マジで君のこと思うと腹立つよ、もちろんそのバカな酸民に対してね! 게다가 이건 당신의 작품 공간인데! 따분하고 편협한 사고방식 가진 몇몇 깐깐한 애들 때문에 스토리를 바꿔야 했다니. 진짜 당신 생각하니까 화나요. 당연히 그 멍청한 트롤들한테 화난 거예요!

hideinurheart

Man, I feel so bad for you, having to deal with all that hassle just ‘cause of some stubborn idiots’ comments. Those ageist haters are seriously stuck-up and boring. Dad and daughter? Fine. Son and mom? Also fine. But dad with an adult daughter? Nope, apparently that’s a problem. It’s such a shame you had to redraw this piece, and it let down all the fans who were hyped for some older-character NTR. But hey, I’m still your biggest fan! No matter what you draw, I’ll always have your back. Keep rocking it! いやー、マジで残念だし、めっちゃ大変だったよね。頭固いバカどものコメントのせいでさ。あの老人嫌いの酸民、マジで頑固でつまんない人生送ってるよな。パパと娘? OK。息子とママ? それもOK。なのに、成人した娘とパパはダメって何? それで作品描き直しさせられて、老人NTR好きなファンの期待も裏切られちゃったし。まぁ、俺は変わらず君の超ファンだよ! 何描いても、ずっと応援するからね。ガンバって! ~~~ 아, 진짜 안타깝고 당신이 고생 많았을 거 같아요. 융통성 없는 멍청이들 댓글 때문에. 그 노인 싫어하는 깐깐한 애들, 진짜 고집 세고 삶이 따분할 거예요. 아빠랑 딸? 괜찮죠. 아들이랑 엄마? 그것도 괜찮죠. 근데 성인 딸이랑 아빠는 안 된다니 뭐예요? 그래서 작품을 다시 그려야 했고, 노인 NTR 좋아하는 팬들 기대도 무너졌잖아요. 그래도 전 여전히 당신의 열혈 팬이에요! 뭘 그리든 항상 응원할게요. 힘내세요! ~~~

hideinurheart

That's a seriously great statement.

BABaracus

That's what I was thinking, thanks for confirming.

BABaracus

You shouldn't have to censor yourself or change one of your illustrations just because of a few angry viewers - especially since it sounds like they were in the minority or there might have been some sneaky behavior with alt accounts. Above all else, you should draw things that make you happy! We (your REAL fans) will support you no matter what! お疲れ様でした!

madesomewaffles

If this is really what you want, then I understand. I'm sorry for seeming unkind, and I'm sorry you had to go through all of this.

mattmccleary

That was what I missed, and It'll be addressed in the upcoming update. Please wait!

˚☼。

Thank you for your opinion! If my sole intention was to simply surrender to some fans, I would have deleted that episode. The actual reason I made some modifications to the story was to reduce the kind of presentation that might feel like 'netorare,' while keeping the relationship between Yuko and his father unchanged. (Perhaps it's more accurate to say I fell for a provocation rather than surrendered.) I trust that those who support me do so for my freedom in creative activities, and I'm always deeply grateful for that. With this recent matter, I feel a bit embarrassed for showing a side of myself that seemed too swayed by fan opinions, which is different from how I usually am. I will strive to create even more amazing art so as not to disappoint you. Thank you always for your support!

˚☼。

It's pretty incredible that mom has become maybe even more popular than fumika

Birdie98

Thank you for the comment! The revision was intended to subtly hint that Yuko and his father's relationship had a pre-existing history, while also paving the way for a smoother progression into the next mother-son episode.

˚☼。

In my opinion the character should have just been part of the minor update, i don't think anyone would have cared that way. It's just that the mom i feel like is your most popular character, certainly my favourite and you get her only every 3 months, i was definitely disappointed, but yeah, if you kept it to a minor update, that would have been absolutely no problem. If anything, you should re-do the mom for this next major update again. But thankfully, the amount you charge for you art is so little, that it's no big deal.

Stabbar

I'm sorry that I'm modifying too often, but I think I've erased an important part so I've added it back. Thank you for reminding!

˚☼。

Thank you!

˚☼。

I think there is an unnatural part of the production because I was revising it for a short time. Thanks for the comments!

˚☼。

😍

˚☼。

Thank you for your opinion!

˚☼。

I'm sorry, but I'm pretty disappointed. Maybe you know something that we don't, like a bunch of people cancelled their support plans, but without that information it looks like you allowed yourself to be bullied by a bunch of people who aren't even supporting you. I don't like feeling like the voice of someone who's been supporting you for most of the past 3.5 years matters less than the voices of people who have probably never supported you. I don't think this will even make the bullies happy, to be honest. They'll probably keep adding unkind tags to this post over on pixiv.

mattmccleary

This incident being a daydream doesn't necessarily mean that Yuko and Grandpa don't already have that kind of relationship, so it still may be canon. The dream dialogue is still hinting at that at least ("as usual", "as always" ..)

BABaracus

Aw Should've kept the sex real

Legion92

I'm extremely disappointed that Yuko fucking her dad is apparently no longer canon. And I'm just sad that a couple angry "fans" launching a harassment campaign (one of them obviously created a dozen or more alts to flood the comments on the last post to make it seem like more people hated it than actually did) managed to make you compromise your vision. I don't blame you, I'm just sad it happened.

zeikcied

I was a bit confused as well. I thought the fluid was cum at first, but that would've made no sense with the daydream. If the panel of her daydreaming was above the one with Grandpa & Toru it would've made the order of events easier to understand.

BABaracus

It took me way too long to understand why the grandpa was covering Toru's face, because I was so focused on the mom's cute sleeping face and the "Daddy..." to see she was going to town in her sleep. I was like "That's a lot of drool she's wiping with her hands" lol Even if she doesn't actually have sex with her dad now, the fact she fantasizes about it is still great. The look Toru gives her at the end makes me wonder so much about what he's thinking. You didn't need to make any changes, but I think your quick work turned out well!

Bxxo

idk how i feel about the change, feels off. glad i got the earlier copy before. guess ill see how it goes.

Paunch

Sad to see the panel with her drinking the cum from cupped hands removed, I felt like her father is the reason for her fetish. But hey, it’s great either way!

ivandavy

I'm not sure why you changed it, but this is good too!

Cleveland Rock

I like this new version a lot better ! I don't think you need to satisfy everyone with every set, your the artist and you shoud draw thing you enjoy drawing but I still welcome the change nonetheless !

chatswaag

So this time it was a daydream of Yuko?

BABaracus

Love both directions though. Lucky I managed to get the earlier version too xD

Tech

Thank you for your hard work. Although, to be honest, you were not obliged to do it.

Birdie98

well its also a nice decision :D personally i hope its true :D, what if produce some scene like when mom is young enough and maybe mom and dad is also family members

小尾巴


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