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[D'sP] Doyle And Ally Have A Visitor - Chapter 173

Doyle has returned to carving up the inner sphere of the seventh floor and more time passes. Outside in the town, the Barrais along with the carpenters have set up a field for most of the cows. Though they do have a smaller field inside the inner ring for their personal experiments and farm animals.

The one important feature at both fields is a small shrine with an Idol of a golden cow. Sure, the Idol isn’t actually made of gold but rather carved of wood and painted with some scavenged paint. Maybe the skill behind carving it isn’t exactly the best. All of that didn’t matter. Rather, despite the somewhat shoddy nature and low-quality materials, it was made by a true idol craftsman.

An older lady had come in with Jan’s group. A rarity not only for her age, but also for being from a different continent. That last detail was important because where she came from was a religious crossroads and she had made her living by carving small idols for those on a pilgrimage. Not skillfully, but rather with passion and reverence, no matter the deity or saint.

And that was the key. While not skilled, that devotion now translated into a special quality. That of being able to craft a true Idol without being a follower. In the wider universe, this isn’t the rarest of things, but definitely a catch this early for a new world.

For the normal deities people would worship, a true Idol only provides a small boost and allows a church to gain some system based protection. The true need for an Idol only comes into play at the higher levels. Moota however isn’t a normal deity, but rather a beast deity.

That one detail changes the value of a true Idol. Animals that match the portrayed deity will naturally begin to believe in the deity. This wasn’t missed by Moota. Not only wasn’t it missed though, but it caused a reaction that drew her back to the world.

Why? Because while a true Idol might not mean much to the believers, that isn’t the case for the deity. At least not for the first true Idol on a world. Just like how a deity can visit a world as long as someone is faithful there, an Idol is like that but supercharged. Before Moota would have needed to spend some effort and energy to visit Doyle’s planet even if every single cow had believed in her.

The first true Idol is like a free ride to a planet so of course Moota isn’t going to turn it down. Though this time she won’t have to literally knock on the dungeon to get Doyle’s attention. A quick call to Ally and she was let in.

Moota takes a moment to look around and nods, “Looks like I wasn’t wrong to bet on you guys. I admit I had second thoughts when Ally came to cry on my shoulder, but it seems things are working out between the two of you.”

Ally laughs nervously, “Yeah, I did kind of use you for emotional support. Not many people on my phone that I could call. It would have just been embarrassing to have to call my mom.”

Doyle nods, ‘I’m glad you did have someone to depend on. Anyway,’ and he turns his attention to Moota, ‘What brings you here? Not exactly the most hopping part of the universe.’

Moota shrugs, “You’ve got an Idol crafter in town. Why would I turn down a free ride? Though more seriously, it is nice just to be able to skip out on my position as an eternal intern. Oh, and I wasn’t expecting to be able to do much here? Like, you can’t expect a true Idol to just pop up so soon! Even the pantheons have a hard time getting one this early and I’m the first here.

“Sure, other gods have their believers, but they aren’t going to spend the faith to travel here. Though a quick warning. Going to want to keep an eye on those who might commission that crafter. There are some nasty beings out there. No offense to Ally, but I heard about the fae worshipper the town just had to deal with. If that Fae had gotten a foothold through an Idol no one would be having a fun time. Fae are a pain to deal with.”

Ally sighs, “Yeah, don’t worry about it. I had to live with them, after all. Of all the people, I was in a particularly good position to know all about how annoying it is to have Fae hanging around.”

Doyle’s core twinkles, ‘I know what you mean!’

Ally rolls her eyes, “Heh, funny. Anyway, the Fae aren’t the worst things out there being worshiped and not all of them will be limited like others are.”

Moota nods, “True that. I’m sure you have enough stories about outer gods and what not. As it is, your world here is a clean slate. Of course, with enough time, most things will manage to sneak in unless one particular religion locks a world down. But I don’t see this planet turning into a shrine world so eventually you’ll get to deal with those freaks.

“At that point, though, there should be enough people able to defend against it. I’m going to drop a message to the town about it as well, but if you can, give them the option to let you be less than friendly to those cultists.”

Doyle laughs, ‘As luck would have it that is already partly in place to a degree. The town was a little shocked by what happened with that cultist so now is requiring those with a blessing to report it at the gate. Of course that won’t catch a passive follower, but I don’t think those would be the type to get an idol.’

Ally grimaces, “That might not be the case. Monitoring who is worshiping which being isn’t exactly a new idea so of course there are ways around it.”

Moota sighs, “You can’t really do much about it. But that is why I’m going to warn them about the Idol thing. It isn’t exactly something I’m supposed to be telling the ‘mortals’, but they are caring for my followers. Plus, screw those cliquish deities.”

Doyle rolls his core back, ‘The more I learn, the more it feels like the world is doomed. Every corner I turn there is a new gotcha.’

Moota shrugs, “That’s just life. It isn’t like your world was necessarily safer before this. Even without magic, a single unlucky event can doom a world. You’ve just traded off some dangers for others.

“For instance, while you might have to worry about outer gods, the normal deities will be able to prevent random meteors from smashing your face in. A single deity might not be allowed to do much, but with enough of them true miracles can happen. Though you can’t expect them to truly fix everything. After all, a desperate person is more likely to worship a deity.”

Ally laughs, “More than just a few of those shrine worlds are constantly on the edge of collapse with only their deity keeping things together. Nevermind that the deity might have set the situation up like that in the first place.”

Doyle tilts to the side, ‘I’m going to guess there are a million and one ways to set up a disaster that is cheap to just pause.’

Moota nods, “Just hang a moon in a decaying orbit where it just takes a small shove to keep it stable. As long as the people on the world stay planet bound, there is no way for them to fix it. Like, that sort of thing is so easy to set up that I’m sure there are millions of planets like that out there.

“But we have gotten a bit off track. As I already mentioned, I’m going to send the town a mention about being careful about who idols are made for. They are lucky in the fact that an idol has to actually represent the being it is for or it won’t work. On the other hand, deities can have all kinds of wild forms and so it isn’t as easy as just banning idols with tentacles involved.

“Beside that mess, I also wanted to bless the Idol. Of course, when I showed up, I found there were two already. While the one out in the larger pen has more cows, I highly suspect I’ll get a better return on the smaller pen in with those founders.”

Ally raises an eyebrow, “I must admit I don’t know what blessing an Idol will do for it. Though I assume since you’re bringing it up, you want our input?”

Moota brings up a system screen with a 3d graph, “This is a simplified version of what blessing an Idol can do for a deity with around my follower count. Simplified because it is only using 3 axes to display the variables and isn’t constantly in flux. For me personally with that specific Idol? I can think of at least ten options that might be available but there will be an absolute ton of extras kicking about.

“The three I’m looking for though are an increased chance of sapience, an increased chance of a bloodline, and the rarest possible outcome, which is the ability to appoint one of the nearby cattle as a priest of my religion. The last one is rare mostly because none of the cattle on the planet, let alone near the Idol, are anywhere close to being on the evolutionary path to gaining sapience. Kind of hard to be a priest if you aren’t sapient.”

Doyle nods, ‘I would assume so. But none of this matters unless we know what the options are. Can you check it from here?’

Moota smiles and pulls up a new screen.

{Choose an Idol Blessing:

Increased chance of cattle having twins

Decreased chance of diseases spreading to cattle

Increased chance of a bloodline

Cattle herds are more cohesive

Symbiotic beings that target cattle have reduced negative effects

...}

Moota looks at the bottom and sighs, “I’m glad the system puts the more beneficial options at the top and cuts off the rest. There are probably a good hundred extra blessings being hidden at the moment. Worse yet, some of them will say the same thing. After all, it doesn’t exactly say how much of an increase or decrease the blessings provide. Luckily, it looks like the bloodline chance is in the top five and I don’t have to go dumpster diving for it or the sapience one.”

Ally frowns, “If there are so many options couldn’t the priest one be among them?”

Moota sighs, “If only. That isn’t exactly an option that has varying degrees to it. Either you can get a priest or not. The bloodline one could be an increase of either 1%, 10%, or 0.0001% and it won’t tell me. Scratch that, technically the really low chance it might add a modifier to the front of it, so instead say it was a slightly increased chance.”

Doyle nods, “That makes sense. Though it looks like there isn’t really a choice here, especially since it is an increased chance of a bloodline. The founders are going to be doing what they can to get something like that already so it would be a multiplicative boost to what they are already doing.”

Moota laughs, “I’m actually a bit torn. The option for more twins is first on the list and would be amazing. After all, the rate of twins being born to normal cattle is about one in 200 so about 0.5% chance. While what goes into the blessings tend to not be a simple percentage increase, as there are so many variables, the twins blessing could mean twins being born one in 50 instead.

“If the town was going to depend on raising cattle, the increase that would provide would be astronomical. Like, you couldn’t ask for a better blessing. Still, I’m going with the bloodline blessing, if only because of how interesting your town already is.”


Discussing The Afterlife - Chapter 172

About Bloodlines - Chapter 174

Comments

I think leaving an idol up on top of the challenge cliff would be good.

zalex

my thoughts on how/who this would happen is is that those that gathered all the books they could (in secret away from those in charge of the town most likely) would be from Springfield high school. I was thinking something along the lines of a history teacher (the one that would recognize what exactly is developing via leadership trends) and 2 others(all the teachers would have developed magical scholar type classes. I think it is fun to have water, fire, and earth as their elements), a janitor and a lunch lady. In addition to three of four others in the group including the one who made the trip. I was thinking of a soldier that is married to one of the teachers who was on leave at home when the system came. (I was thinking of a backstory of the soldier who was home for his son's funeral, who was a big D&D fan when he died protecting another student at a school shooting.) In general, the teachers can see the writing on the wall as it were with the town leadership and generally do not agree with it. The soldier, instead of traveling down the river, traveled through the woods by himself in secret. Ultimately I see them as seeing who they will choose to serve. The town up the river, or the new settlement. What the teachers want is a place to properly teach without the bias of the upriver town leadership and in return, they get the books. Including books on engineering, medieval weapons and armor, and some medical. (as well as things like school textbooks and lots of D&D material)

zalex

The fun thing about true idols is they can be moved around. The catch to this is that there are an absolute ton of things that can block it with dungeon territory being one of them. Luckily because Moota is friendly with Doyle the Idol's signal got through.

Akhier Dragonheart

I'd be interested to know if Doyle could have a true idol in his dungeon? Could lead to some interesting options.

Garrett Johnson

A person like that would come from upriver but not be from upriver. They will have originally went there because they heard that upriver kept a lot of pre-system stuff around. Once there they would realize that while this was true it was more in line with people desperately trying to hold onto the past instead of adapting. This would not be what the person wanted as while upriver will preserve the knowledge (and they would likely leave copies of what they had gathered), their council will fight tooth and nail to not allow improvements with arguments about how magic isn't trustworthy and the system should be avoided. Of course the council also would not want them to leave with the knowledge as that would allow others do use it. This would lead to the person escaping downriver to Wolf's Rest not because they wanted to go there, but because there is so much traffic and would allow them to blend in with the crowd. From there they would seek aslyum there until they feel safe to move on. That is, that will be their goal until they realize that despite the rough appearance of the place, they are very much willing to let the person experiment with how pre-system knowledge can assist them. There would never be any kind of concrete deal between the person and the founders, at least not for a long while. Instead, people would come around with certain problems they feel can be solved by the person using pre-system knowledge. Eventually when children appear on the scene they would naturally be attracted to the person because of all the weird gadgets the person has made to test things. From there the person would end up teaching them basic things just because the person loves knowledge and spreading it. One of the founders will notice this and of course they can't have just anyone teaching the children of those in the towns core. Of course the founders don't want the person to leave so the only option is to induct the person into the secret. This will not be a new thing at this point as of course with such a small population, the core members aren't going to only hook up with one another. Though the person might be the first to be allowed in without having hooked up with someone already there. Nevermind the fact that even the significant others of those in the core might not always be let in. I don't know if anything like this will happen. I know so much about how it would happen because while I don't know if this will happen to Wolf's Rest, it is happening elsewhere. Though more centralized in places that ended up near the major colleges, museums, and libraries. Or more specifically the situation that some highly educated people will have a hard time adapting to the new situation and end up losing the new generation of thinkers to place that are more open to learning about what has happened is happening all over. There are of course places that do accept the post-system world, but the world is a big place.

Akhier Dragonheart

Not related to this chapter. I would love to see someone coming from upriver making Ace and the others of presystem books in return for higher tier citizenship and to start a school/academy. (like a person representing a bunch of teachers and librarians who gathered all the books they could from the starter town library and schools.)

zalex

This isn't a path thing, but rather a blessing being placed upon the Moota idol in cow pen that the Barrais are personally taking care of. More will be explained in the next chapter.

Akhier Dragonheart

So the bloodline option they're taking isn't a final choice right? Like the other paths more options can be added later if something happens down the line? Since the twins option seems popular, could that be picked as well at some point?

Roethan

A novice crafter using higher quality material would be a waste no matter how you slice it. While a person new to bone carving won't be able to use 100% of the potential in a horse bone, it won't take long to get up to 50% or more and that is completely reasonable. On the other hand, trying to use something like a unicorn bone might not even use a percent of the potential (thought it would still be better than a horse bone) and despite working with a unique material, not provide as much towards their carving skill. They just wouldn't understand what is happening as they carve the bone and so lose out. A crafter who wants to reach the top is basically going to have to manage a balancing act between using a high enough quality material to push their skills while not going beyond their current skill so as to tank their progress.

Akhier Dragonheart

Ok, so a master of the craft can still do something great with material of low quality. Where as a novice of the craft could only work with a small amount of greater quality material without it being wasted. Ok, got it.

Knightlykobold57

The answer is yes. Some materials are better at handling magic. So the bones of a unicorn are going to be better than the bones of a normal horse of equal level. And the skill of the crafter can play a large part. Though for most crafters it has more to do with whether they can use the full potential of the material. So say the unicorn bones had a quantity of 100 and the horse bones had a quantity of 10. A new crafter might only be able to use a small portion of the unicorn bones such that a true master of the craft could do better by getting every smidge of power out of the horse bones. There is of course more to it than just that, but most of it is outside the realm of what Doyle is likely to encounter in the near future. Oh, and things will naturally be able to handle more power, the more power dense the environment they grew up in was.

Akhier Dragonheart

Oh so bloodlines lead to stronger evolution trees, gotcha. Also when I was talking about bone armor, the image that came to my mind was something like Skyrim's Dragon bone armor. Except maybe not large carved like that and the metal replaced with a nice dark polished bronze. Perhaps later when Doyle can summon some larger monsters, but I imagine that the bones would be carved to fit together. Looking closer to Roman laminar armor I feel. Speaking of, do certain materials take magic enchantment better than others, or is it based on the skill level of the enchanter/crafter?

Knightlykobold57

Primitive is in the eye of the beholder. Just because something is carved out of bone doesn't mean it has to be caveman style. As for the bloodline thing? Doyle already has a monster with a bloodline. Technically he has two, but it is the same monster so I'm just counting it as one. Remember, the grassen goat has an ancestor from both the goat side and the symbiotic herb side. What is important to note is that even though Moota provided herb cattle which in theory are in her evolution line, it doesn't mention a bloodline. This cuts to what a bloodline represents. The being that starts a bloodline is one that has grown so powerful that its very existence has been stamped onto the universe in a manner that transcends things like DNA. The next chapter will explain it some more, but this cuts towards why Moota has chosen the bloodline bonus over the twin bonus. She has decide to go for quality over quantity.

Akhier Dragonheart

I did not. Guess I better fix that.

Akhier Dragonheart

Does the Bloodline blessing have a high chance to get other evolution variances, or something else? But damn would that twin chance be good. It would increase the population of cows that follow Moota by an insane amount. Plus, it would give the town a surplus of materials and food in a very short amount of time. Anyway now they just need to find someone with a shamanistic magic path, then they would have cheap magic items to barter with. Plus I can see them being kitted out in a strange mixture of bone and bronze armor/weapons. It might look primitive, but lets see them laugh when they shrug off all the pre-system and most of the early post system weapons. That is if they don't have a dungeon nearby to tap for items and materials.

Knightlykobold57

Well that was fun, thanks for the chapter. But you do know that the plural form of axis is axes, right?

Carl Mason


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