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Sacred Symbols, Episode 324 | Astronomical

It's been an exciting week in the world of PlayStation. On the software front, Team Asobi's Astro Bot has arrived on PS5, and everyone loves it, us included. We gush about it in the What We're Playing section of the show, and encourage all of you to give it a try if you haven't already. Meanwhile, over in hardware territory, the long-lingering PlayStation 5 Pro has been officially revealed for a November release. Some people are excited about the machine (the three of us will each be buying our own for launch), but many others aren't pleased at the high price, the lack of a disc drive, and even what the machine can do. Who's right? It turns out everyone is! Capitalism will sort this whole thing, one way or another... but something tells us PS5 Pro will be just fine. Other news this week includes John Garvin's most recent Days Gone-related Twitter episode, a slight increase in the cost of a new DualSense, a fresh approach for future Destiny 2 content, and more. Then: Listener inquiries! Why would a band ever turn down an opportunity to have their music in Grand Theft Auto VI? Could Ubisoft 'go private' and repair its deepening financial woes? How can we justify buying a game at launch when the product is always cheaper and in better shape later on? Are everyone's cats and dogs safe and sound?

Timestamps:
0:00:00 - Introduction

0:29:58 - Hart-Lee-Pool

0:34:00 - Wolfenstein 2 Collector's Box?

0:35:13 - Linkin Park's Return

0:52:08 - Concord's Secret Level Episode

0:55:48 - Refurb PS5s

1:04:25 - DualSense Price Increase

1:05:48 - New PS5 Firmware

1:07:10 - John Garvin is Upset

1:19:10 - PalWorld for PS5

1:20:40 - Chris Deering's Comments on Layoffs

1:24:29 - Street Fighter 6 Surpasses Four Million Sold

1:24:43 - Space Marine 2 Sells Two Million Copies

1:25:05 - What Are We Playing?

2:20:00 - PS5 Pro

3:57:37 - Destiny 2 is Changing

4:08:54 - Most Downloaded Games

4:11:51 - New PlayStation Plus Games (again)

4:17:00 - Ubisoft Going Private

4:26:07 - When Will Colin Play Skyrim?

4:27:40 - GTA Music Drama

4:34:33 - Vampire Survivors Console vs Mobile

4:40:19 - Is It Better to Wait to Play a Game for a Better Experience?

4:44:35 - Change in Vernacular in Gaming

Sacred Symbols, Episode 324 | Astronomical
Sacred Symbols, Episode 324 | Astronomical Sacred Symbols, Episode 324 | Astronomical Sacred Symbols, Episode 324 | Astronomical

Comments

“No” in Australian is “nahhh”, or “yeah nah”. Practice more before you bring next year’s live show to Sydney.

RidersofRohan

If anything, this podcast has made me realize I should get a new job

Jack

I had no idea. Thanks for making me aware. I will check out the inFAMOUS track tonight. 🙇‍♂️

Directional Joy

RIP SaltyGamer. Classic podcast moment 🤣

Gray Gordon

It’s crazy how ubisofts efforts to detoxify their work environment has completely neutered their games.

Kyle

I wish it was more entertaining. I just had a student with a ‘disability’ that was, you could say, randomly outspoken. I think some of it is on me, for being extremely sensitive to sound/distractions in class (during test taking in particular). I grew tiresome of the outbursts but fought along silent. I guess the teacher did too, till that last day. 😂 Thankfully, no students throwing chairs, like moments I had going to an alternative HS (not that they are all bad, a great resource, just some bad eggs). 😀

Directional Joy

True, and also when he blamed Microsoft being a bad competitor for Sony ripping off fans. Hes jumping through hula hoops and bending over backwards to frame Sony well. I've listened to Colin since early IGN, he has not always been like this.

Bailey Callis

"she wears underwear with dickholes in them"

superbadisfunny .

Facts. I'm so glad Dustin is back to humble him. him saying "why get a refurbished system?". Like maybe to save money because you still have to get PlayStation Plus and games. I think at this point he's far removed from regular fans of games.

superbadisfunny .

He's not even trying to hide his bias anymore. I can't believe how up sonys ass, and how against the fandom he's become.

Bailey Callis

How’s the haunted house market up there, Casper?

Alec Davis

Enjoy spending a stupid amount of money on extensively a weak GPU upgrade. Gonna need a double shot of copium.

CasperTheCanadianCunt

Love you Dustin! Welcome back!

SeveredLimbz

This honestly needs more prominence. These kind of things need to be addressed by Colin. Sometimes his pivots are crazy.

CasperTheCanadianCunt

Leave it to the Canadian to talk about history

Alec Davis

It's uncomfortable to be on the wrong side of history, I understand.

CasperTheCanadianCunt

Deacon was the best new character Sony had in 2010s

SirJoseph_iv

I don’t know if they were fanboys but they were level headed

Alec Davis

How is my username edgy? It’s a self-deprecating jab at my multiplayer FPS skills, but go off. I would be obsessed with showers too if I lived in a shit hole country

WashedAF

Colin’s comment never made sense to me because there’s no way a large amount of console players even touch the options menu after the initial mandatory settings

WashedAF

And the PS5 fanboys were reasonable?

WashedAF

The pc players were insufferable after the pro announcement. Really tempted me to generalize their collective intelligence

Alec Davis

I don't understand his attitude towards physical collectors. Sure the folks that use it to troll those who prefer all-digital are tiring to listen to. But most of us just want physical to stick around for the purposes of consumer choice, game preservation, and, oftentimes, friendlier pricing. It's a super elitist, anti-consumer tendency he has that frankly flies in the face of his supposed "populist, conservative" views

Seany Mac

I second writing in about this because the disc drive/physical media discussion in this episode was absolutely awful. Colin relishing in the thought that physical media gamers can't play their libraries in the future? Apparently an enlightened above room-temperature IQ level take.

ToiletDrummer

Oh they’re all pretty toxic. I only use IG really for personal and professional stuff. It’s less toxic because you can choose to read the comments or not etc.

The Devmeister

No one cares about you or your country. I know that stings, but using the lame and tired school shooter rhetoric is so boring. It doesn’t happen nearly as much as you want it to. That’s all I have to say, gonna go back to living in the greatest country in the world and never thinking about yours 🇺🇸

RIPIT

I think for me the Pro price and lack of disc drive is a few reasons holding me back, especially because the PS4 was disc only. I bought a PS4 pro because it ran games noticeably better. It didn't overheat or sound like an aeroplane. Crucially, the pro introduced 4K to games at 30fps and 60fps to 1080p and took advantage of what was my new 4K TV. The PS5 Pro isn't a leap like that. It's not even going to do 4K/60fps in many cases. Throw in the backdrop of first party games going up £15-£20 to £70, DS5 controllers going up £5 and still flawed, PS Premium under delivering but increasing by £20 or Extra by £16. Then throw in the fact that many titles are crossgen PS4 game and it's only the past 12 months we really see the previous gen finally gone. The PS5 was a big leap with the SSD and 4K disc drive to play my ever increasing collection of 4K films. It will be the first Playstation console I'll skip. I bought both PS1's, both PS2's, all 3 PS3's, both PS4's, the PSP, Vita and PS5. And if Sony go digital only, I'll buy a PC instead. It will cost more for the hardware, but games would be much cheaper, there's emulation for 40 years of games from all systems plus I can use it for work and the kids for school. When PS Store was selling RE4 on release for £54.99 but day 1 Asda sold it physically for £42, I'm not paying £13 more for digital. Spiderman 2. I paid £64 for it, £6 less than the PS store. Finished it in a week, didn't rate it, sold it for £60. I paid £4 for it in effect. If I spent £70 on the PS store, it's dead money. I will never play Spiderman 2 again and digital is a financial trap.

Andrew Simmons

Welcome back Dustin! So glad to have you back on the show to steer these two deranged minds back on course!

Shane Quinn

Regarding PS5 Pro marketing - is anyone else skeptical like me about their claim "75% of players use the performance modes"? Am I wrong or did we hear from like xbox not that long ago that this is the opposite? Maybe I"m having false memories. Can't remember source just remember hearing that most players like quality modes better.

Guybrush Threepwood

Australian too it's a rare case even though it's first party astro bot wasn't full price. But I agree with everything you said I don't buy full price games anymore at $124.95 it's just too much.

Josef Barker

It really brought a smile to my face hearing Dustin again. It’s good to have you back, bud :)

Oliver Johnson

Well what other social media platform is not very toxic?

Bailey Callis

To be fair, he essentially said it's a masterpiece DESPITE the bloat. It's easy to frame things anyway you want and get lots of likes when you ignore most of a discussion.

Bailey Callis

God Bless you Dustin ❤️❤️❤️

Gabriel Baker

Kiwi here, i feel ya. i think its $1380 here without a stand or drive... digital games are a rip off this side of the globe.

Homz

some how the pro is looooooonger.

Homz

Yeah its funny i always hear Colin saying "i see people making fun of XYZ" im always like, where? i havent seen that at all.

Homz

I never buy digital where i live, (NZ) its just to expensive. I dont really care about re selling the game, i just want digital to be the same price as phisical.....it should be cheaper

Homz

the slim and the pro looked pretty much identical. extra patty in the burger haha

Homz

Sly 2 is one of the best sequels ever

Jerry Huerta

haha this made me laugh, Murica!

Homz

definitely DOA outside the hardcore. for me its just not worth that $$$ for a few more fps. and all the games will be designed for the base PS5.....

Homz

glad you guys will be getting the Pro to talk about on here. lookign forward to seeing what it ACTUALLY will do. because I am not going to evaluate this thing's worth until I actually start seeing DF's comparisons on specific games. GREAT To hear Dustin's voice again too.

Guybrush Threepwood

Wireless VR headset?

Monta

“As for you, Boss Hogg, very insulting what you said about my coat... it's made out of your mother's pubic hair. All white and silky” - Silky Johnson award winner of the 9th Annual Player Hater of the Year

Samuel Zamora

Colin not seeing an issue with a 30 dollar stand that took prolly 5 dollars is super weird.

superbadisfunny .

I gotta know more about what was going on in this art class

Gooch Gobbler

I found them pretty mid but also not my favorite band. They have some slappers though. Knights of Cydonia especially

Gooch Gobbler

The biggest musical stars perform the Super Bowl halftime show for free. All they get is exposure

Glen Yelenovic

Yeah, same thing happened to phones. First they hike the price to 1000 for a 'pro' model, people say it's nuts, it still sells, and then it's just the norm moving forward. You don't like the price - don't buy it, they'll get the message. Historically Playstation's best moments were when they undercut their competitors with $299 for the PS1 and $399 for the PS4, though. You cannot underestimate the potential of getting people into your ecosystem at a 'cheap' price to sell them subscriptions, games, and accessories later. With Microsoft becoming the biggest publisher, and their ability to sell at a loss with $3+ trilion at their back, all the while Sony's 1st party output is slow this gen and they're more stingy with pricing (controllers, consoles, games, ps5 upgrades, PS+, etc), I could see a potential PS3 situation brewing next generation IF things continue as they are. This might turn out to be a huge mistake in the long run.

MISZCZOGRZMOT

Haha my wife introduced me to Coheed in 2012. Im a Puerto Rican who grew up in NYC and I listened to rap until I met her. I took her to a Circa Survive concert for her birthday in 2012 and I haven’t listened to rap since. It just doesn’t resonate with me anymore. But when I when to my first rock concert my whole life changed. We saw Coheed like 7 times since. The wildest one was definitely the Starland ballroom in Jersey. What an amazing experience. We also saw them at the chameleon club In Lancaster PA where they unveiled the “Dark Sentencer” for the first time. The Star Wars band Galactic Empire opened for them and that was dope to see.

Michael Mashpotato

People complaining about the price of the PS5 Pro and then say stick with PC… dude it cost more money just for a graphics card than a PS5 pro and a disc drive

Glen Yelenovic

Such a great episode. Welcome back Dustin!

Elliott Morgan

This

The Rose Experience

Welcome back Dustin, good to have you back!!

Danomind

Yikes! Your use of gaped painted an image, in my mind, but I commend the grammar. 😃

Directional Joy

No disrespect to Colin but I FULLY expect an issue with scalpers holding onto disc drives and attempting to sell for high dollar. I don’t hate them for it. To me, it is Sony’s responsibility to keep disc drives available, but I anticipate them embracing the scarcity because a digital scenario benefits them. I may come off a bit cynical but that’s how I, currently, see things.

Directional Joy

Can't believe no one mentioned that LP's new Vocalist had an end credits song in Infamous Second Son (as Dead Sara). I wanna say it was a cover of Nirvana's Heart shaped box? Btw LP's newer stuff wasn't bad at all(aside from the last light whatever record) - they matured as a band, and became more rock then rap-rock. Stuff like Mark the Graves was great imo - no scratching, synths, no rap interjections, just raw rock. 🤘

MISZCZOGRZMOT

Love Coheed. First saw them at Warped Tour ‘03 or ‘04. There was a drunk guy screaming in between every song to “play Everything Evil”. I’m old.

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

I pray to the Lord that one day these dudes realize biomes have been popularized since Minecraft, not Returnal lmao

Riley Donovan

Colin, I feel personally attacked for being a gulper. I’m very self-conscious of it but I’m not doing it on purpose. Some of us just have tight little throats as opposed to your obviously gaped out gullet.

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

Don’t Stay is by far my favorite LP song too. It is sooo overlooked by most people when saying their favorite songs

Glen Yelenovic

Need to get Plinkin Lark trending

Glen Yelenovic

Yes, you've been to Canada... But have you been to REAL Canada on the East Coast?

Kevin Cooper

Minutes to Midnight was amazing too for Linkin Park. After that 3rd album it went downhill with only 1 or maybe 2 good songs per album.

Glen Yelenovic

I saw them in Boston in 2013 at TD garden. They're really fun to watch and also an amazing stage set

Alec Davis

Been on sale for $0.66 on LI the last few weeks

Glen Yelenovic

It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off

Glen Yelenovic

So glad to hear Dustin again. Welcome back!

Glen Yelenovic

I dont think pro not having a disc drive is because ppl aren't using it. I think that since the disc drive is an accessory now it saves them money to make consoles without it and makes them money being bought separately. Damn thing is sold out.

Kody Kindig

astrobot at 1:51:20

Keith Huntington

i'm going to start saying "interesting that you feel that way" to my wife at very risky moments. i'll report back on how it went. 😄😄

Keith Huntington

Dustin, I live in Kaihinmakuhari where TGS is held. I’m sure your trip back to Japan will be packed, but if you wanna hang out with a longtime listener and fan, feel free to reach out! Best to you and Holly

Stevie Q

Was thinking this to, and at the time I dismissed Colin’s comment bc I knew it was bullshit and not representative of anything

YP-Berserk

Dustin, two things 1. Welcome back! You have been missed 2. If you're interested in painting minis, check out Miniac on YouTube. He's a buddy of mine and makes great content and is amazing at painting minis

Jdummann92

if next gen consoles are $600-700 then that makes the price for the Pro even worse imo, those consoles will have way more justification to be that high. A 'slight' refresh with no disc drive should be the same cost as a new, next generation console? The pro should be 600 max, or at least they should've shown a little clearer just how much better it will be than the base ps5. So far, $700 for the upgrades seem extreme for a ton of people, myself included who usually throws money at upgrading to the latest hardware.

peanutbutterloveer

The PS5 pro Plus a disc drive here in Australia will cost $1,360. I say plus a disk drive because digital games here are $125 when they release whereas you can get them for closer to $80 physically. The Australian tax on gaming is just outrageous

Luke Trewarne

Welcome back Dustin

brody_low

My PS5 is also stood up behind the television because it is ugly

Moistescarjoe

He’s making stuff up to prime the inevitable ‘yeah I haven’t played since last week, I fell off of it’

Ryan

Arizona iced teas are $1.50 by me!!! I’m in IL

Ryan

So good to have Dustin back 😁

Loom Doom

"DUSTIN!". I actually said this aloud in my kitchen when Chris said they are back at fighting strength. Welcome back Dustin!

Anthony

I’m so excited for PS5 Pro! I’m still inching my way through FF7 Rebirth, and I think I’m going to put it down until the Pro releases. I really want a better graphical experience on performance mode in that game. I’m in!

Molly Bittner

"it's a Bethesda game, it's fine..." Coming from the Horizon apologist is diabolical 😭

Eric Golley

It’s awesome to have Dustin back on the show! He compliments Colin and Chris perfectly.

Joe Perez

That’s incorrect, the new 2T Xbox has an optical drive. The new all black series S has no drive.

Marko Krnic

Chris’s issues with Sly are so , so strange… The characters discussing the tutorial, Sly’s voice & how he controls? What? Thank god he actually is enjoying it

Cormac

Welcome back Dustin!

AngelOfCake

Colin, please ask Tom from Moore’s Law is Dead, what is his opinion on Sony launching the PS5 Pro with WiFi 7 capabilities? No one is talking about this. I could be off base but it seems extremely unnecessary. Unless of course it’s an indicator of something else we’re all missing. “Future proofing” for a longer console cycle or possibly a better connection to a future Portal device? Maybe I’m wrong and it’s not a big deal but if anyone would know it’s Tom. Thanks from Phil in NYC. P.S. It was great to hear from Dustin.

Philip Dunphy

FYI too Colin said the Xbox series x new 2tb $599 version has a disc drive but it actually is all digital so that’s also expensive for an already 4 year old console so when you put it against that the ps5 pro actually has better value since it’s also an upgrade.

Guatles

I’m a guy that still buys physical media. However, it doesn’t take a genius to see that it’s a dying market. Fewer stores are selling physical games in the abundance they once did. Unless you preorder, GameStop never has extra copies of new releases. On top of that, there isn’t a game released these days that doesn’t require a substantial patch once you put a disc in the drive. At this point, the disc is literally just a license for a download. The PS5 Pro not shipping with a 4K BR Drive isn’t the ‘rip off’ people are making it out to be. The bellyaching is more about FOMO than it is about price. I’ll be buying one regardless. I bought a high end OLED TV and would like to take advantage of the Pro’s fidelity. Also, Welcome back, Dustin. You’ll be happy to know that there are plenty of 3rd party stands for the PS5 Slim that cost less than half of the price of the Sony product.

Patrick A Crone

Is Dustin the Simba of LSM? Fuck yeah he is. Peace and much love to him and Holly.

Frank G.

I’m calling something that is both insanity and completely possible… a Mark Cerny body pillow. Screw PS5 Pro! For the humble price of $99, you can feel the comfort of Cerny, while listening to his ASMR style dulcet tones.

Directional Joy

Wtf lol? Colin has been saying for a long time that his friend who works on a big shooter told him that the majority of people pick Quality over Performance. Now he switches it around to work for him now that the real stat is out. I love the show boys but you guys gotta do some memory exercises or something man

Reon Williams

Welcome back Dustin, thoughts and prayers with you and Hollie ❤️❤️

Your Boi Nicky V

Alex here from Phoenix. I posted the Skyrm question. Chris if you are reading this, I have not yet completed the main quest. I have been doing the faction quests over many different save files. I have probably played over 1,000 hours of Skyrim on PS3, PS4, and PS5.

Historicus

lol yeah I realized that when I read the third response

Brian Presley

He was talking to me about the forced stay lol. I will indeed put one on the barbie in your honour, it’ll be a prawn though 😉

Adam Barnes

Forced stay? I took the disease seriously and gladly stayed indoors bc of family with medical issues. Was just commenting on people misconceptions of prices between countries, though. Have a good day

Brian Presley

Digital to physical data is greatly skewed cause it counts only Digital items, such as DLCs.

Jacob Lesperance

Would love gun control laws. I can’t make it happen. Though I was just commenting on people constantly misconstruing prices between countries. Have a good one and put another shrimp on the Barbie for me. Cheers

Brian Presley

My job never even shut down, lad. The US isn’t the only place with ‘muh freedoms!’. Living up to your edgy username, champ. Go have a shower.

Adam Barnes

Welcome back Dustin!

MrFreundly

Missed you Dustin!

Dana Anderson

It really infected YouTube, too. I was recommended literally dozens of these little pissant rage-bait channels that I’d never watched before. It was a feeding frenzy.

Jimmy G

Not to be too critical, but...this show is SO much better with Dustin back! Much love.

ByWatterson

I appreciate you guys with your high level thoughts of ps5 pro with too many “YouTubers” and gaming podcast pundits with the click Batey “ps5 pro is a ripoff or people saying “who’s the for?! Or “this is for NOBODY!?” This is OPTIONAL and for a niche audience so yeah they won’t sell as much as base and slim models but they know that as well. I’m just tired of all the Negativity is INSANE! I appreciate you guys for keeping it real and keeping the conversation level headed.

Guatles

The homie is back

Red Metal

You guys really need to get the hell off Twitter. All this shit talking you guys discuss about the social narrative around games or PS5 PRO etc . Is ONLY coming from Twitter/X. Been off that shit for a long time and I get zero of this negative influence or toxicity - and completely just make my own decisions lol

The Devmeister

Please write in with this comment for next week's episode. A lot of great points

Brian

Linkin Park was only good when Fergie was with them, right after she left Outkast.

Teddy

I do think the lack of competition contributes to the price of both the $600 2tb XSeX and the $700 PS5 Pro. Both MS and Sony know that there's no point in trying to price more competitively, it won't really matter, so they both set prices where they make a nicer profit. It also can make sense to switch to PC when/if PlayStation abandons discs. It could be that you game on PS because you are a big fan of physical games. If Sony abandons that, some may say, "well, I can't play physical games either way now, so I'll just go to PC primarily now because of X, Y, or Z..." That's not my position, but it could make sense. I have the money and may end up buying a PS5 Pro, but I want to be sold on it. That presentation totally failed in selling it. I downloaded a high quality version of the video from Digital Foundry and sat right up to my 48" LG C1 I use as a computer monitor and there is a difference shown, but it is so minimal that it's just not that obvious if you're not looking at side by side comparisons.

Matthew Cooper

Muse is an awesome live act, definitely recommend, they're one of the few bands that takes advantage of performing in an arena. However they're also a weird band to complain about not being able to see at a club or theater, they just did a theater tour for their last album before they did their arena tour, and it was fantastic!

The Late Nate

Best crafted game I’ve played in a long time.

MrFreundly

When I say home theater, I didn’t go with a projector. I have an 83” LG C3 and a 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos setup.

Chris Van Buren

Astro bot is definitely GOTY

Mike

Just started the episode and when Colin jokingly said next live show in the states will be Wichita Kansas. I did a spit take! That’s where I’m from’ See you soon bros!!!

Big St3ph3n

DUSTIN!!! You have been Missed! Glad to hear you’re doing well. Welcome back!

Guatles

How was your forced stay at the Covid camp?

WashedAF

fair enough

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

Welcome back Dustin! Hope all is well.

The Devmeister

Top comment 😂

The Devmeister

It’s visually stunning but I put it down after a few hours in because the design was annoying to me.

NeO JD

“Rolling credits” is on the same level as having your pronouns in your bio. Just take a hike, loser.

Adam Barnes

Lots of people who haven’t bought a physical copy of a game in years suddenly aghast at the concept of not having a disc drive.

Ryan

Curved corners. Base PS4 had sharp edges and pointed corners. I think you’re the one misremembering

Adam Barnes

I don't think Sony not including a disc drive on the pro is based on data...at least in the above-board way Colin seems to be insinuating. Routinely the quarterly earnings charts companies put out showcase "digital sales" which includes dlc, mtx, digital-only games etc. To my knowledge I don't think we've seen a granular breakdown for solely full retail games aside from the Insomniac leaks, which actually showed in physical's favor. No doubt digital is a bigger share than physical overall but the true nature to what extent that is has been constantly doctored by the stats these companies put out. Also don't you think the ratio of physical collectors is much higher in the hardcore 10% of playstation customers likely to buy the pro model?

Seany Mac

I swear to god Chris is misremembering what the PS4 and PS4 Pro look like when he says that he loves how different they looked …the ps4 pro looked exactly like a standard ps4 just with an extra level

Marko Krnic

If you’re into Far Cry at all, that Avatar game is dope as hell.

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

Glad to see Dustin back. Welcome back brother

Terry Atkinson

Aussie here, I’ll let everyone over here know that you’re incensed. Reckon you could mention something to your team about all the kids being needlessly gunned down in schools? Cheers 👍

Adam Barnes

Colin would like Space Marine, especially as you can play the co-op campaign missions with bots, so he never needs to talk to anyone.

Ryan Taylor

A $250 premium for the Pro is not that serious. Be real — how many of you degenerates spend that on Uber Eats and Onlyfans in a month? Stand down.

Jimmy G

Over 800 for a ps5 pro with a disc drive is absurd. The pro doesn't seem 300 dollars more than the base machine. I have plenty of free capital and am a hardcore gamer. Shit I bought a psvr2 at launch. The pro imo is doa The biggest differences between this and the ps4 pro is price. Ps4 pro was way way cheaper and it sold 10 million unit's. The price of living has gone up since 2016 way faster than wages globally. I see ps5 pro being under 3 million at best

Wayde

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Adam Barnes

So happy to have Dustin back!

Napoleon in Rags

My boy Dustin! ❤️ Emily sounds off on the older LP tracks for sure but the new single is dope. “The PS5 is light years better than the PS4.” Is it tho Col? Other than speed, I miss the PS4 all the time. Personally, I was really looking forward to the Pro but that presentation killed my hype. Not a good reason to upgrade, if at least for now. Col, you say the reaction won’t be the same as online talk because the disc drive sold out. Of course it’s gonna sell out immediately. If even the niche Portal sells out, then clearly this will. The better question is will it hold? Scalpers will surely clear out a lot of the initial inventory, but I don’t see the longing demand there yet. Outside of you guys, I haven’t even seen other reviewers excited for it. Ubi has been slacking in quality as of late for sure. Hoping the new AC changes that. 1 of the rare times I actually want to buy a Ubi game on day 1. The publicity alone from that Rockstar-centric tweet got me to check out that song, so I guess it’s a minor win for them in terms of attention. I wasn’t feeling the track tho.

NeO JD

The king has returned

Murderer Kevin

Dustin, you and your family have been in my families prayers literally every single night since I heard the news. Hope you are doing well.

Uvula Smack

I hope Dustin knows that he void k have gotten the Bloodborne outfit from the gotcha machine in the base game, and that he simply just wanted the outfit from the start. Unclear to me from his comments if he thought it was exclusively in the upgrade or not.

Jared R

Reminds me of people saying that Forza Horizon 5 doesn't deserve GOTY because "it is just a racing game". 😡 But maybe Colin didn't even mean it that way and I'm here getting angry over it. 😄 I swear, I am not mentally ill and I don't like Billie Eilish!

Danio

Colin complained so much about FF7 Rebirth being bloated but now he is afraid to give Astro Bot GOTY over it... I don't get this man. Maybe it's just that he still likes Rebirth more but it sounded to me like he thinks that a 3D platformer for a whole family isn't "serious enough" game for GOTY and I definetely don't like that.

Danio

Super pumped about the episode with Tom

larry Seitz

I liked Ashley in ME1. She was quite interesting to me, especially her being "racist" was cool. Kaidan on the other hand is the worst out of the entire ME1 cast for me (although he for sure isn't as bad as Jacob Taylor from ME2, that guy suuuuucks).

Danio

As a fan of Linkin Park, I completely support adding another style of sound to the musical formula, instead of attempting to emulate what once was. Their integrity may fail, with fans wanting more of the same, who knows. 🤷‍♂️ I just hope some fans recognize that, however it turns out, this doesn’t appear to be a ‘business’ decision.🤞

Directional Joy

PS5 Pro is an easy cop at $700. Baby money. I'll be preordering two. The poors complaining about price don't belong in the gaming space. Get your money up bums.

Rufián

Lol. Colin thinks a 7th grader wouldn't say "fucking idiot"

Angel DeJesus

Welcome back Dustin! Take all the time you need and we will take whatever you can give. You’ve given me a great example of how to have faith in trying times. My wife and I will keep your family in our prayers.

Matthew Hopkins

Chris’s Bentley impersonation needs to be a SS staple

Joshua La Rosa

It’s so good to hear Dustin back on the show! At the risk of sounding parasocial, I missed you, dude. Sacred Symbols just feels so complete when its C, c, and Big D.

[ Enrique ]

Hey CDC, I’m getting a little annoyed at these Tomby Brits complaining about price differences between the US and the UK when they don’t know how to do math. First as a lesson for all, the US uses sales tax and it gets added on at the end of the transaction. The avg sales tax in the US is 6.44% bc it varies by state and city. The price of a PS5 Pro is roughly $745 after sales tax in the US. The UK inversely uses Value Added TAX. This is a tax that is already included in the price. The VAT in the UK is a whopping 20%. So the price of the PS5 Pro in the UK is £583.33 before the tax. If you then convert the pre tax price of £583.33 to USD using the avg conversion rate of roughly 1.25 the last year, it is equivalent to $729 in the US. A $30 price difference. Not a $400 difference as the person from the UK tried to claim. There are other factors like tariffs, shipping costs, etc that can factor into these prices as well. Easier to send stuff to US directly from China via boat than it is to send stuff to the UK which typically require air freight or a shipping down and around Africa. If the Brits want to complain about the price of the PS5 Pro tell them to go to their legislators and lower their taxes, lol. Please share this PSA bc it’s so annoying to hear people from the UK, EU and Australia make false equivalencies when they don’t understand the differences in taxes, conversion rates, tariffs, and shipping.

Brian Presley

I think the sacred crew admittedly and most of the audience are hardcore enthusiasts that will support the PS5 Pro. I think it’s pretty much DOA with most gamers though. I will be interested to see if I’m wrong.

Chris Evans

oh naurrr

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

Yes but it’s funny in MGS

Special Needs Cannon

I find it interesting Chris doesn’t like the characters talking about pressing certain buttons to do things in Sly Cooper but he never mentioned that when playing through the old Metal Gear Solids lol they do the exact same thing.

Josh Lucas

Dustin so good to have you back 🤍

Alex Weiss

The podcast is better with the third chair. Welcome back Dustin

Caleb Peacock

My heart goes out to the person that Colin referred to as unstable. I try to be respectful of ‘disabilities’ but also remember taking an art class, in college, that completely went to $#!T (both my grades and the overall class vibe) because of an overly vocal individual. The teacher tolerated it until the final day of class, when she inevitably went off on them. Honestly, wish she had handled the situation sooner. Anyways, just saying that I understand the discomfort of straddling the line between respecting someone and respecting yourself and your time.

Directional Joy

We're in for a good one today, aren't we?

Brogan Trull

Welcome back Dustin!

Scott

Lovely words! I know they see these comments, so I know it matters. ❤️

Directional Joy

I started in audio, then recognized that he had returned, so I switched to video to see his lovely face.

Directional Joy

Death Stranding 2 is gonna look incredible on the Pro

Walker Simmons

Here here! 😊

Directional Joy

10 min. into the podcast, so a looong way to go. Just had to welcome Dustin back and I look forward to his return (regardless of the frequency). Sigh, trauma and grief CAN be conquered but I wanted to compliment Dustin on his wisdom of recognizing that he is a human being, and NOT a robot, so his mood may be in a constant fluctuating state… at least for a while. As you already know, we understand and please be mindful of your ‘head space’. 🫡 ❤️

Directional Joy

Man. I'm jealous. I'll be getting one as well. I have an office with atmos setup. I'd love a full home theater in our next house.

Jimmy Valentine

I’m ready for the pro, I definitely don’t want to spend that much but I will. I think a lot of people are downplaying just how much it’s going to do for current and new games because the Marc Cerny video didn’t show it off well

Katana Silver

My biome word is transmedia, how is that different than multimedia?

Michael Thew

I don't if I will get it day one. But I definitely will get it by the end of year if possible

James R Langley

Salute

AllTooEasy_

There's a conversation on the subreddit about it, apparently he was shouting, whistling, and possibly throwing stuff on the stage, generally being insufferably loud to everyone around him. Major main character energy, but the consensus seems to be that they handled the situation well.

Travis Johnson

When I heard Dustin’s voice it kind of made my day. Weird for a grown man to say, but sometimes work can be the best thing to occupy the mind and the podcast is best when he’s there. Day 1 PS5Pro and cope/seethe PC Bros

The Rose Experience

Preach it Dustin! Your break down on the price and reasoning on the Pro is spot on! I’m an enthusiast and big audio video guy (I have home theater), this is a must buy for me.

Chris Van Buren

Chris' Sly impression might be better than his Trump impression 🤣

Christopher Gourley

DUSTIN 🙌🙌🙌❤️❤️❤️❤️

Adam Barnes

The Linkin Park drama is about the new singer being a Scientologist and not believing in mental illness. Thus shitting on Chester's legacy and history with mental health. They think it is disrespectful for her to sing his songs. It has nothing to do with it just being a new singer. At least according to people on Reddit. I'm not a fan, and haven't heard any of their new stuff

Ryan Zimm

I swear to god Chris just said on Snark Tank that Jack sucks (true statement). Maybe it was Sweeney.

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

This isn't a left vs right thing, but I find it hilarious that you guys talking about Astro Bot sounds exactly like Democrats talking about Kamala at the convention.

Ealia Staroverov

Welcome back Dusty!

Robbie Agnew

I exclaimed audibly when you introduced Dustin. Lol. I don’t think I realized how much I missed him. 😊

Del Griffith

Saw MUSE at the Delta Center in SLC. One of the best shows I’ve ever been to. Loud (in a good way) and insane production

Noah Trujillo

I’m not a Patreon comments section guy but yaaaaaaa welcome back Dustin! You’ve been missed so much. Great to have you back on the show man 👍🏻

Chris Walsh

I dunno. I remember loving Hybrid Theory, but tried listening recently and it doesn’t hold up for me. New song bored me and I guess I just don’t get the hype.

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

All of this crying over the price is a little much. You’re kidding yourself if you think the next gen consoles will be $500 still. They will 100% be $600-700 starting.

Chris Van Buren

Nephew (just so nobody busts your balls)

Noah Friscopp

Me and my wife saw Muse at the Wells Fargo center in Philly. That is a fucking epic band and extremely talented. The stage was spinning and they were fucking slaying that shit. They are amazing and know arenas. We saw Coheed at an arena once and it sucked, they aren’t an arena band. But coheed at the starland ballroom is fucking epic. Some bands are arena bands. Muse is definitely one of them.

Michael Mashpotato

I can’t be the only one that thinks “Don’t Stay” sounds kind of like a song from Doom.

Davey Cakes

Yay Dustin! So glad to have you back as you’ve become my favorite of the Last Stand crew (love you all) and the most relatable to me. I appreciate you adding your extra insights on some more niche areas of gaming like tech, retro collecting, emulation, and audio quality. I hope you and Holly are doing as well as possible and best wishes to you and your family.

Mike R

Welcome back big D

Mike1core

Welcome back Dustin

Henry Velasco

Return of the King! Good to have you back, Dustin.

RektTek

Weird move to borrow the nephew’s copy of Space Marine 2 but do your thing bruh (edited)

AllTooEasy_

I had no idea Dustin's return would get me this hard. Rock solid.

NUTSO JIMBO

Totally agree with the dualsense having issues and bad battery. I just threw away my purple one because it started drifting and was out of warranty range. Idk if/when I’ll buy another one. My OG controller and a black one are still kickin.

king_ryan_james

Holy shit, I just got choked up hearing Dustin’s voice. Really good to hear from you again, man.

Jayce Tamulevich

YAAAAAY DUSTIN!!! ❤️

yosh_wah

Dustin man happy to have you back. We missed uuu man vibes has not been the same since you have been gone no offense to anyone of course. Love all yous

Kris Guzman

Dustin ❤️

BatmanBeyond

I'm so over inflation talk. Regardless it's still expensive. Not that I have an issue with it. I do think the pro is worth it But expensive is still expensive.

superbadisfunny .

Amped to see Dustin back!!

Doug Abaire

Can anyone at the live show that sat near that dude that got kicked out share what the fuck he was doing that caused so much disruption? Honestly that sounds scary as fuck. Any crazy can walk up in there and do some crazy shit

Bogey

Welcome back Dustin!

Omar Rosa

So happy to hear Dustin's voice again amongst the Sacred Boys!

Pauly Twos

Amazing to see Dustin back!

Kristian Lopez

MAN did i miss dustin. HES THE GLUE Ill stand down now

SlickMick

Love that Colin says “Beamer” for BMW, just like my Dad. Also great to have Dustin back!

WashedAF

Great to have you back, Dustin!

Cai

Good to have Dustin back. For the 2026 US show, come to Chicago❕

Josh Lucas

Welcome back Dustin! What an amazing birthday surprise for your boy.

Jay Bayles

Made my weekend to hear Dustin. God damn dude we missed you

0dds0ck

I love having Dustin back! F@#$ YA!

Joshua Jones

So good to hear Dustin's voice.

lazer_josh

Made my day to hear Dustin’s voice we all love you mate. But please take all the time you need everyone would understand.

Garry

THE DUSTY BOY RETURNS. I'M PARASOCIALING SO HARD RN

Riley Donovan

SO glad to have Dustin back! Welcome back and glad you’re doing well! Best to you and your family ❤️

king_ryan_james

Welcome back king 👑

James McGivern

Colin's Australian version of "No" made me almost crash my car holy shit 😂😂😂

Queef Wellington

Welcome back dustin!!❤️❤️

mattyboy316

Got a little emotional hearing Dustin's voice not gonna lie. Welcome back Dustin it's great to have you back.

Faulted Priest

Not usually a commenter, but Dustin coming back made my day. Good to hear from you, and please come and go as you need, we’ll always be here waiting for you! Best to Holly as well.

Derek Hoffman

Dustin is back and a 5 hour show just what I need to end my Friday thanks fellas

Nathaniel Ian Blasi

I don’t like saying it, but I think the Pro might be my final PS console if this is the way the industry is going. It’s a serious amount of money for what is ultimately, a hobby for most of us, a way of relaxing in the evenings. I’m seriously giving thought to getting a Pro, selling my PS5 and just building up a massive catalogue of games to play / replay as the years move on. Also, Dustin, my boy, welcome back. You were roasted within 5 minutes, great to have you back.

Cormac

THE GOAT IS BACK!!!

Hybrid Theory

So happy to see Dustin back.!!!

The Central Long Islander

Dustin: *comes back. Immediately gets roasted and job security comes into question in first 10 minutes haha We love you Dustin and are proud of you. Welcome back.

Nathan Johnson

Dustin my Goat

Pediatrician Disrespect

Return of the King

Dante B

Welcome back Dustin!!!

drew

DUSTIN 😍

Lemon Pepper

Welcome back Dustin. We love you.

Hashim Barakat

Welcome back Dustin! Great to hear your voice!

Ryan Hayman

We are complete

Jordan campos

our beautiful round headed baby boy is back

Alyssa

Woohoo! Dustin’s back!! Welcome, brother!

Tristan Kimball

Threw my hands in the air in excitement when I heard Dustin! Welcome back, dude! You were sorely missed at the live show.

Collin Sparling

DUSTIN!!!!!!

Eric the human

Welcome back Dustin.

Umberto

Dustin 🙏🏽❤️❤️

🌊Finna D. Fresh Flow🌊

Welcome back Dustin, great to have you back 👍

Ethereal Pizza

Glad to have you back, Dustin! The LSM community loves you!

Steve

Love hearing your voice again Dustin. Welcome back!

Aaron Omar

Hell yeah, the trio is back in full force! Glad to see Dustin well 🥹❤️

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

This episode is going to hit so freaking hard. Really excited to listen

StewDog

YESSSSS

Queef Wellington

The glue of Last Stand is back 👑

Alex Roberts

Welcome back Dustin. You and Holly’s strength is inspiring <3

Ryan

Happy to have you back Dustin.

Pan Ic

Dustin's back! Let's go! 🫶🏻

Bart Van Geert

Return Of The King, the GOAT, the D-Man, welcome back Dustin

Daddy T

Glad to see Dustin back!

Brandon Garvin

Missed ya Dustin!!

James

Let’s gooooooo Dustin! Glad to have you back!

Mykal

I’m most interested in the section about everyone’s cats and dogs lmao

The Lazy Indian Gamer

Return of the King

Jannik Rafael Andersen

He's back! I'm gone to be honest, I teared up a little. I hope this helps him heal

Travis Berry

HOLY SHIT DUSTIN. LETS GOOOO

Austin Clemence

5 hours AND Dustin?? Bros we are so back.

Nick Vieu

🙌 No spoilers but shout outs.

Michael Mashpotato

I’m so happy our boy is back 🥹🥹

Brenden

Yuhhhhhh

🌊Finna D. Fresh Flow🌊


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