Arcane 2x6

What are you on about?

CJArts

It's a reference to Sheera thinking he was Ekko in season 1. They're just joking around.

Jules Eris

That’s not ecko

Johnwick

unreal.

Inmate_I

nah this next act man

Finka Clash

sheera the goat, gtfo

kam

GG isha 😭😭😭😭😭

Bobby Robinson

It was definitely sudden for us. But I don't think Jayce took that decision lightly or quickly.

SoggySoup

Refreshing to see reactors be skeptical about viktor and have faith in Jayce, because he’s obviously seen what happens and it does not look good, viktor probably just thinks he’s helping but he’s not just like roshi said

gr2ves

Speak for urself, that’s why I love watching them, their random comments and jokes, if you don’t want that watch it by yourself lol

gr2ves

I can’t tell if Jayce was right or wrong. There’s a lot of weird things going on with Viktor. But, it doesn’t seem like he’s doing anything. . .nefarious. But it’s shit literally no one but him understands. I’m not sure what happened to Jayce while he was gone. Did he see the future? Or maybe the effects of hextech somewhere else. Or maybe the effects of whatever Viktor is doing was happening where he was at? I don’t know. But the way is was portrayed, it seems like Jayce just crashed out so unecessarily. He didn’t even TRY to talk to Viktor which is so insane to me. And Viktor said Jayce’s mind was damaged AND there was something else in him. So like…wtf Jesus. And that whole thing with Vander is so sad. Aisha taking herself and him out presumably so Jinx wouidnt have to watch that awful battle go down smh. I’m glad Jinx at least got to hear him speak one last time… This show is crack bro.

Eli Kisamo

Sheera hate will not be tolerated. She brings her own spice to the reactions

XxYourWaifuxX Xx

That isn't Riven's sword at all. It's a Noxian polearm with an item attached from league that gives magic resistance(hence absorbing the hextech).

Byron Wright

Sheera so annoying, she ruins all nice moments in the show by yapping non stop

Aybek Telgarin

That’s riven’s sword, she inherits it probably because he’s died

Joe

Jayce killing his best friend like that is insane! I’m not sure if what he saw made him go insane or if he just knows something we don’t but damn dude. Offing your boy like that is wild

Samir Hilario

28:37 It is unforgivable if this man isn't made a champion in LoL

BaddaBing

Sheera yapping away that entire Isha sequence 😭

Sheraya san

Hope y'all watch the Spin Offs

ShaquanVirse

The reason why vi says that dude is a traitor is because he ratted her and Caitlyn out for shimmer in season 1 to silco if I remember correctly.

BlueSmurf

Technically, his distraction force them to leave Vander alone, but I’m still team Jayce🤷🏾‍♂️😂

Jay Voorhees

she got adsorbed by by the hexcore and then jayce put it into viktor so basically or spirtual form is in the core which is now inside viktor

Forbidden GamingTv Lets Plays

That end discussion about singed and victor was sooo frustrating. The missing piece that wasn’t connecting the dots for Sheera is that Singed already sold himself (and unhinged Warwick/Vander) to Ambessa in exchange for his freedom and livelihood… if Vander’s mind was free, it would have ruined the entire agreement as there’s no way Vander would have agreed to be used as a WMD for Ambessa’s family reunion. No Warwick, no freedom.

Darren Banks

And lo, a collective of Viktor mains/fans sang out- 'HE SAID THE THING!'

UnbindingNote

I'm a LoL fan and I think in the lore Jayce is an arrogant guy who pretty much use hextech for weapons. Viktor is a guy who pretty much became a machine after he decided to perfect you have to destroy your humanity within you

Pablo Piovesan

"the final glorious revolution" MY GOD!! HE SAID THE FUCKIN LINE!!!!

Jota N.

in the backrooms, lmao

Ty Be

27:12 nigga you’re not well took me out

jamesnightblade

That had to be it it was Vikor got hit Vander mind was gone so there was no go going back

CleoKujo

Jayce is the real villain smdh

CleoKujo

Like where tf is he!!!?

CleoKujo

I had the same thought 😂

Khalil Tippin

It's not rare for literature to have a thesis statement of sorts at the start. Ambessa talked about the three principles of strength. One of them was might, and she said "lava in your veins" like Vander/Warwick had at the end. Not sure about the other two (maybe Vi and Cait with guile because they tricked Ambessa). Then she added a fourth one, being sacrifice. So to your question, this is what I think and how I see her mental state: Isha wanted to sacrifice herself to protect Jinx. If Vander was not killed, Jinx could not give up on him and would die trying. We don't know if Isha knew that Jinx is the one who essentially killed him. If she did, she would know that Jinx, in her guilt-driven self-hatred would not think about her own well-being and get killed. But even if not, probably the same conclusion. Isha saw already that Vander is so durable and has such a quick healing factor, that he can't be killed with normal means. She somehow knows thst overloading the hextech pistol with multiple gemstones will explode and that is hopefully powerful enough. She will make that decision and sacrifice for herself, for her loved one. There are so many sacrifices made for love in this show, big and small acts. I think this just one more.

SigmaMaleDigBick

Singed is the alchemist thats been creating Warwick. He was knocked out by Caitlyn as he was going to inject Vander with that circular device he was fucking with 10 minutes prior. When Vander is going nuts after Viktor dies there are two camera cuts, one is of Ambessa staring at her dead boo, and before that to Singed who is now awake standing inside the dome where he was initially going to inject Warwick. He was successful because he woke up and injected Vander after everyone walked outside to see what was happening.

Alorian

Can anyone explain what Isha’s goal was? Was she trying to mercy kill Vander?

PersonaFyde

I think the reason why he sees Sky is because when he tried to heal himself with the Hexcore the second time, he was out of Shimmer, which he needed to survive the ordeal because Singed said the human body can't survive that transformation on it's own. And because he tried to do it without Shimmer, he was about to die when Sky came and 'sacrificed' herself and the Hexcore not just killed her, but absorbed her lifeforce or whatever you wanna call it. And I think since then, a part of her psyche was like imprinted on the Hexcore. Also I'm not accepting Isha's death until I see it. It just can't be.

zer0clue

Ekko pls press R

Keziah

That... is not at all how jayces lore in league was. Dude was a stupidly smart scientist that got humbled when even his genius couldn't solve "hextech" untill be buckled down and grew learning from how the people around him felt and how he should of been less rude and easier on them. Then making the shard from the gemstone and succeeding. I won't go further cuz it ties in viktor and spoilers on their new lore(all this lore is pretty much retconned and arcane is the canon now which is why i didn't mind dumping it).

Panda

Exactly,in the end something bad will happen even if u are doing something "good". Every action has a reaction.

Andres

“Remember me, remember me, I’m too far gone” The music in this show has always been used as a way to tell the mental state of the characters so to understand it easier(see Hellfire for Caitlynn) Something about that lyric in this episode though makes me think Vander was never going to be healed. Like Viktor said, he was deeply entangled with the beast’s psyche. And even if Vander was healed, what then? We saw how the hivemind acts like shells of their former selves, singing only high praise for Viktor. Even in ep 5 we saw that Salo *doesn’t breathe.* We see Jayce’s breath, but never Salo’s. So I think the ‘Remember Me’ song was Vander saying to Vi and Jinx to move forward with his good memories, not try and save him from something thats pretty much unfixable.

slavicandsapphic

I just realized viktors powers worked by using nearby metals and materials to repair people so it makes sense vander was coughing up lava after viktor died it’s all of that progress literally being cried and vomited out ☹️

Jtrggrhappy

I think that what Jayce did there killing Viktor is gonna cause the problems he saw in the future

tifaxxx

so, I think sky is like a part of the hexcore. Vicktor was talking a lot about inspiration which in the first act he found by following sky. Sky before she died was talking about how Vicktor inspired her, and she found a missing piece. What if that missing piece was the inspiration for the magic of the hexcore? Or maybe it's some doctor fate shit where the core needed a male and female presence to unlock its incredible power.

3CM0NEY2

Well from what Arcane is saying in the narrative is that no matter your intentions the Arcane has horrible consequences regardless of use. Like using it period is toxic to the environment and even though things seem fine now, it'll eventually cause irreversible damages down the line to the land and the people it's directly in contact with.

Isaac

I know Jaycee is probably doing this for the better good of everyone so I’m waiting to see what they show but I do think Victor did everything with the best of intentions regardless of how booky it looked from what we’ve seen he was just trying help people with no other motive’s But right now Jaycee an OPP FR hope he chokes on a popeyes biscuit no Bev for what he did to OG Vander forgot everyone else that just innocently died but Vander was enough to cross him off my list .

Jay.NAS

But what about the serum he created to halt Viktor's progress? He would've injected Vander if he wasn't physically stopped

Oliver Rodriguez

I think he said that to stay on Ambessa's good side. Because without the Vander, Singed would probably be killed by her or put back in prison because both her and Cait could care less about his work to save his daughter.

Jarren Jenkins

I watched Carlie and Ange's reaction and either them or one of their commenters said that Viktor was using Hextech for good, which is why it seemed so peaceful and gentle, while Jayce uses Hextech for evil or bad, making it chaotic and distrustful. I don't know League lore, but it seems like with any magic, it is how you perceive and wield it that makes it good or bad. I don't think Viktor was brainwashed, I think he just saw how to use Hextech differently while Jayce had such a negative experience with it that he only sees it as evil now. Just my thoughts.

Jarren Jenkins

The way I ugly cried when I first watched the ending…it like, actually hurt.

Clinton the Bingethinker

I can be wrong about both of them wanting to use him as a weapon. For sure Ambessa wants to use him as a weapon. But at 21:05 he told Ambessa "Viktor believes he can save the man inside the beast. If he succeeds, I'm afraid the creature's usefulness will be lost to us". Singed's and Ambessa's use for Vander may differ, but they don't want Viktor to succeed in bringing Vander's mind back. That's the point I was trying to make.

Oliver Rodriguez

That is not true singed mentioned the beast is the key for his daughter meaning he wishes for the regen without the beast to use for his daughter. He also mentioned trying several catalysts to restore him but nothing worked.

Dolos

12:46 — one of my favorite shots ever

Clinton the Bingethinker

Victor's whole deal in game, before arcane was ever even a thing to us was basically "trying to reach the apex of human evolution by way of machinery"

Quinn Balsam

yes it's from the game

WillGlacier

Is that a callback from the game or is there another meaning than him just saying that?

Rayanh LaNansha

I think Viktor really thinks he is doing something good no evil shit etc but I also think Jayce is in the right cuz the way he was seeing all the people that Viktor healed ... They were looking like demons(don't want to spoil anything so I will not say what they looked like) but yeah just like heimer said I think the hexcore seems something really good but it will end on something really bad and btw remember how Viktor told Jayce to destroy the hexcore at first and Jayce didn't want to? Now is the opposite after Jayce spend that time inside the hexcore. It seems like Viktor just brainwashed himself on believing that he is a savior and he is doing something good. So i trust jayce on this.

Andres

Isha's death was both incredibly sad and absolutely beautiful. This fucking show i really want more seasons but I respect that they don't want to overstay their welcome.

Jamaal Ellison

Idk what Sheera is talking about in the end commentary. Singed did not want Vander to get his mind back. Singed told Ambessa that if Victor succeeds in fixing Vander, "the creatures usefulness will be lost to them". Singed and Ambessa did not want Vander's mind back. They wanted to use him as a weapon

Oliver Rodriguez

She hit her with the butt of that rifle like 5 times in the breadbasket and knew it was Vi the whole time she was doing it that's petty. 🤣 also that Jinx vs. Zangief fight was crazy. Ambessa's whole crew is mad dope and her second in command. Kraven the hunter is living up to my expectations for him.

Jamaal Ellison

My hypothesis is that right before he shot Viktor, he said "I will not fail". He was restating something he said to Ekko who mustve been somewhere in the future with Heimerdinger. He had to have been sent back in time by Ekko. I think Jayce coming back exactly when he did was when the hextech facility was weak enough for him to break through a barrier placed by the core itself. Ekko sent him back to fix the past because as we see, time is fairly linear in the sense that Ekko controls it. So by destroying Viktor and his control on his cult, it allows Ekko to return via a catalyst of Hextechnology usage... Isha sacrificing herself with the explosion. Also, did yall notice how the explosion seemingly stopped and stood still for a second...gotta be Ekko. Also, did you notice how Vander did see Isha and tried to knock the gun away because he remembers from when Jinx shot him, that it basically did nothing to him, so the explosion mightve been in vain the whole time, unless Ekko makes use of it. You can see the look of anguish and on his eyes as he tries to knock it away. Also the magma in his blood come from Ambessa saying that to Caitlyn. "Lava in your blood" during the training scene.

Weekly Flo

I think the hexcore has been corrupted from Viktor. He out his blood into it and he had been taking shimmer. The hexcore became corrupted and yearned for more Shimmer. Thats why it absorbed Sky, but there was no shimmer so it desired more. Thats why it bonded to Viktor. Thats also why it bonded to the shimmer addicts because it was siphoning shimmer from them.

Weekly Flo

At 35:44 you can see Jinx's eyes turn blue for a second. I believe Isha was actually able to heal Jinx to some extent.

WuffleIron

Ofc

immortalmayfly

Hammer for mining, right?

immortalmayfly

My take on Sky is 1 of 2 things: 1: Yes the hexcore killed her physical body but her mind and spirit resides inside the hexcore, when Viktor was merged with it, he was able to communicate with her again. Or 2: Sky is actually dead, but the hexcore was able to bank her DNA. Her appearance/personality/knowledge is just data that it's using to manipulate Viktor into creating more followers, maybe it even considers them a food source. I initially thought that Sky appearing to Viktor could also be due to his immense guilt at her death, maybe in some part it still is

naumi

No singed injected him Jayce had nothing to do with it

Ley Nay

He literally knows something we don’t he’s been in the wild rune for months relax

Ley Nay

Also Cait got called cupcake once and folded immediately lol

Charles Jennings

Bro Cait freaky af, girl wiped Vi's spit to her mouth instead of away from it lmao... she longing for her spit xD

Charles Jennings

isha turning into jinx by the minute

quxntum

18:27 HE DID IT, BOYS! HE SAID IT! HE SAID THE THINNNNNNG! "Glorious evolution"

WillGlacier

oooh nooooo my heart, havent we gone through enough

Norman kay10

3 more episodes and this shit is gone forever life aint fair yk. I know they finna be more league adaptions but tbh idrgaf it aint gonna be the same or make me care for characters as much as this lol.

sotonye ogan

Okay that "Noxus is defined by 3 core principles" which directly ties into the 3 leaders of Noxus REALLY makes me think the next series after Arcane is gonna be set in Noxus Vision: Swain the grand general Might: Darius the hand of Noxus Guile: secret leader but is basically Swain calling out Leblanc and her witches in the black rose

WillGlacier

he only needs SECONDS!!!

Oppiee

I just thought the hexcore made a fake Sky to manipulate Viktor. Seems like some void shit from the hive mind stuff and small flashes from Jayce when all the people touched by Viktor started looking purple n shit. And if it is some void shit then HELL YEAH KILL EM before they destroy all of Zaun

WillGlacier

One possibility is that Sky was absorbed into the hexcore + Viktor fused with the hexcore = Sky's soul is within Viktor. The other is that he feels guilty about her death and he sees and talks to dead people similar to Jinx. Because of Viktor's more mystical disposition, I'm leaning towards the first option. In his monologue at the end of the episode, he said that Singed was right, and that humanity is the reason for evil (and good too). In the game he is like a full on cyborg, so I think this will drive him to strip himself of all humanity. Maybe he'll take Warwick's blood and "perfect" himself 🤷‍♂️

SigmaMaleDigBick

Music when Viktor was fixing Vander went crazy

Dexter

The music and flashback sequence at the end added to my misery… Thank you Jay C Hammer, it better be a good ass excuse as to why.. My heart! 😭😭 lol

Justin Stanford

Oooo yeah he did tell Ambessa that he could make it so viktor couldn’t succeed, so it was some unstable juice

Dexter

Yeahh that last frame did it for me he boutta carry Act 3 on his BACK

Domehead

Hmmmmmmmm true I didn't even think about that

Expired Breast Milk

There’s a shot during Victor’s death monologue before the sacrifice, everything is in slowmo. One of the scenes show Singed standing up. So it tells us that he injected Warwick with the Serum he crafted to prevent Vander from coming out, during the time Cait Vi and Jinx went outside to check on the screaming citizens. This explains the Lava spilled from within him. That’s the serum at work

Domehead

WAIT... i just realized what might happen based on something ik about one of the characters in the game but Imma have to let it cook in case it's a spoiler. ifkyk

Justin Neason

Defender of tomorrow got Isha and Vander clapped bro😭😭

Acen Yang

Bro this is all jayce's fault bro wtf😭😭

Acen Yang

cried again

Juls Kun

@GNEISS Did he? Or did the Hexcore make him think something else was behind his actions? Because lets be real here, the Hexcore fused with him and is obviously manipulating him via Sky.

Invader Rin

viktor literally said "thats not jayce" "there is another within" and it looked like he was trying to fight it when he killed viktor

GNEISS

I think Sky is to Viktor what Fake Kino was to Mel. That ain’t sky

These Plums

Thanks, this isn't a theory or any either, he actually said this, i guess she just didn't hear or maybe misunderstood it

Dark Danny

When you realize that all of this is Jayce’s fault. He was the one that went to the undercity and bought illegal materials from Benzo and Ekko. Ekko followed Jayce, which he then gave the location to Vi and crew. They are all fucked because Jayce wanted to fuck around with magic, and he sure as shit found out 🙃🙃🙃 Edit: Nigga should’ve stuck to making hammers

Makeni

i mean specifically the three gems in the gun and the three crystals in the monkey bomb but yes!

wren

I think Vander could’ve definitely been saved. Having his life connected to Viktor is trash but the only other alternative was being a mindless killing machine. Also, I think what Jayce did is what will cause the bad things to happen, he’s causing the future he tried to stop.

PersonaFyde

If you know the lore then you would know that Jayce is just as bad if not somewhat worse then Viktor. Jayce's lore makes him basically a scientist version of Homelander

Joseph C Gdaniec

I wouldn't try to defend Jayce too much. I will say he usually thinks he's right and acts without fully thinking about consequences.

Joseph C Gdaniec

I totally agree on this.

Kaito Kid

The second I heard “Glorious Evolution.” Oh yea it’s time to pack him up while it’s an amazing reference. All I think about is Ultron. It always goes back to Ultron(Comic Version) and his thoughts of evolution for me.

Jay Voorhees

Skye got absorbed into the orb basically taking her life essence along with her physical form but when victor combined with the orb he was essentially taking people's life essence but keeping their consciousness in their bodies which is why when he died everyone else died.

Clearice122

At 33:57 you see Singed getting up. Something tells me he did something to Vander before Jayce blew Viktor away. And besides, I think Vander couldn't have been saved. Because as you said, it's trash that if Viktor dies he takes everyone with. Vander would have ended up been connected to Viktor had he finished. So I am staying on team Jayce here, he did nothing wrong. It's obvious bro saw something and is on a mission to shut it down. Now we head to the Glorious Evolution as I doubt he's dead and Singed would like to keep him alive for his benefit. The "mutation must survive" after all.

Invader Rin

its hard to tell but you see Singe standing there so he could have injected Vander when the others left thats why he want crazy not Victor getting clapped.

TheShortGuy

Honestly Cait Vi and Jinx as their own little Trifarix of Piltover/Zaun goes hard in its own way, Isha-sadness aside.

Gilthwixt

I'm thinking Sky could be the hexcore's attempt at communicating with Viktor and trick him, so it took on the form of sky. I think the whole hexcore thing is "evil", which is what Jayce saw. These people that Jayce saw is similar to some people in the LoL games so I think it's definitely evil. I could be wrong tho

Arkan Matlub

I stand with the defender of tomorrow no matter what happens in the future🫡Keep cooking Jayce

Jay Voorhees

Janna isn't an Aspect the way Zoe or Pantheon are (that's pretty much a Targon only thing; even Kayle and Morgana's mother, the Aspect of Justice, was originally from there). She is otherwise an immortal elemental spirit that's been worshipped for eons though, so basically a deity in her own right.

Gilthwixt

Listen nigga, Jayce was on a MISSION

Makeni

He doesnt need to die both ways ...Viktor is a person you can reason with easily and jayce didnt even try to talk so thers some huge play goin here

Rishad GB

I thought it was fairly clear Arcane Viktor is going more in the direction of "human emotions are the problem" based on all of his dialogue this season. Pain causes strife, and you can't feel pain if you feel nothing at all. So it sounds like that's what this version of Viktor's motivation will be.

Gilthwixt

they all did they mentioned it last ep that they were hinting towards that

Rishad GB

Normally I would never advocate for installing League of Legends, but they have a nice little puzzle/escape room kinda thing going on called Jinx Fixes Everything that lets you explore locations in the show. Hearing her react to all the little easter eggs they snuck in was a fun way to re-live the pain of Episode 5 all over again :'-)

Gilthwixt

sheera literally said the parallel is crazy

Rishad GB

I totally missed that, thought the same thing

Atar

what?

Rishad GB

See I get what you’re saying but I believe it’s flipped. I think that Viktor while helping is unknowingly causing a negative event to happen. I think Jayce isn’t necessarily being influenced but more so is scared and haunted by what he’s seen and is doing everything in his power to stop that. Jayce is easily manipulated sure but never to the point where he’d just kill Salo in cold blood. I think that Viktor is the one being manipulated through Sky who is actually the Hexcore pretending to be her. People going to Viktor for healing on their own is one thing but to lose their humanity and become a hive mind is another. No matter how you slice it that’s weird and spooky even if there is good intentions behind it. The handprint markings on Viktor’s members are the same markings on the creatures that Jayce sees. I could be wrong but I think that Jayce went to the future and has been fighting those creatures trying to survive which is why he has the leg brace. Ekko and Hemi are still there but will probably have the same mission as Jayce when they get out and I wouldn’t say they are easily manipulative.

Dennis Asubonteng

Sheera, the scientist said he couldn't save the mind and believed it was lost till the prison escape before that the only thing that commanded Vander was the scent of blood but then he saw powder and the scientist realized he was wrong and Vander was still in there

Dark Danny

Jayce has game!Viktor’s leg brace, so I am…concerned…

Bria A.

viktor dying didn't cause the reversal in vander. Watch the scene again, and you'll see Singe standing in the room. While the chaos was happening, he injected him when no one was in the room.

Quincy wincy

Every time we see the gear rolling, it rolls slightly differently. Do with that what you will.

Schmidli

I was going to say something about your ignorance but you’re getting raw dogged as it. 😭

__

Going off of Sheera’s theory at the end. The whole scientists goal was to prevent people from dying and potentially reviving his daughter. I believe that by putting Vander’s soul and mixing it into the wolf body that he captured was a way to “revive” Vander but failed to do so. But he wasn’t able to completely revive Vander because his soul was overpowered by the beast. But because the scientist made a new deal to keep the beast, he was preventing Victor from successfully bringing back Vander fully. (I think🧍‍♀️)

Jada G

We’re not talking enough about the parallels between Isha’s sacrifice and Powder’s fight in ep. 1. IS NOBODY ELSE IN TEARS?

__

Didn't seemed he would though, where did singed do something to him?

Arkan Matlub

They made the weapons now tho

Arkan Matlub

The hammer was made for and as a weapon so..

Isaac

These aren’t weapons, they’re for mining!

Schmidli

Just to point out. Vanderbilt would have went berserk regardless of if Jayce killed victor or not. Singed did something to him

Asher Ealey

i’m so glad sheera caught the powder parallel. it makes me sob…

wren

AFAIK it probably doesn't consume his own life directly as such, but w/e mojo the hextech core he was in stasis in added to make him not pepsi from his injuries. So he's finite resource because he's curing others by dispersing fragments of his own energy into them (thus why he can take over their mind to speak through them, and see through the, since they are essentially him from macroscale arcane POV)

Skebaba

Uh oh is this how "the flesh is weak" Viktor is born? He realized the mistake that is the non-mechanical lifeforms

Skebaba

Aye bruh Ekko bout to have the Sickest entrance next episode man I cannot wait for it to drop

Domehead

That's crazy, the new Powder killed Vander with a weapon containing three hex crystals just like the old one did

Alex Cook

btw vander wasnt jayces fault that was singed and whatever he made to prohibit victors calming

SnailSpray

THIS IS JUST MY THEORY. I think sky is the hexcore taking skys name and form. She died and its using a collegue and friend figure to easily manipulate Viktor and bring more cult members

Ayo

isha’s sacrifice actually broke me like it’s so depressing 😭

solo prince

sobbing

solo prince

Great reaction

Teyon Alexander

There's a race called the Aspects that are essentially gods, like Janna that was mentioned in season 2 ep 3. You might see more hints of them as the story develops in this show and potential future ones

A Jiang

i literally didn’t even think of it like this. that’s literally what happened, lmao ! personally, i like viktor and jayce, so i’m not really against anything that’s happened from an objective standpoint. just because i really do think jayce had to have seen something crazy for him to be behaving this way and him saving viktor happened before he knew of the arcane going crazy. it’s probably a for the greater good type of thing. (,:

angelic

Btw for Singed, YES HE DID want Warwick’s mind to be FIXED. HOWEVER, after seeing Viktor, he now INSTEAD wants to combine warwick AND Viktor into the perfect being. Warwick has insane regeneration powers, Warwick is essentially immortal, a never ending life(we see this in his fight vs Vi where his head is literally exploded by Vi and he just regenerates it like nothing happened, we also see his rib cage getting fully destroyed but then it heals back up immediately). Viktor has immense magic power and can influence the mind and has been able to keep his mind safe. If you fuse Warwick + Viktor = An immortal being with infinite magic power and infinite life that will still have his mind intact(seems current Viktor’s magic consumes his own life which is why Singed says that Viktor’s power is finite, he is essentially slowly killing himself to heal everyone else). Singed’s end goal is just to fix his daughter, if he can create the perfect immortal being then he could do the same thing with his daughter by taking that perfect being’s blood and injecting it into his daughter.

PyroPhoenix

better firefang warwick lol

Guav

Whatever Entity is influencing Jayce, is probably trying to influence the world and take over but saw Viktor as an obstacle that must be removed. It brainwashed Jayce and showed him evil glimpses of what Magic is capable of to influence him to go kill Viktor. I personally believe that Jayce has just now caused the evil route of this outcome

PyroPhoenix

also the gear, was like showing chaos and the cleanliness of the other side when talking about humanity so like the chaos side would be humanity while the clean part is, well if you play lol you know

Guav

GLOOOOOOOOORIOUS EVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guav

Carlos, do you know the lyrics of the song? I'm arguing the scene would be better with the lyrics in English or subtitled because they are beautiful and relevant to Isha. If you still don't get it, that's a YOU problem.

Quintin

facts. i think jayce saw some terrible things in the future after he disappeared. a full beard and a leg brace? dude could’ve been there for months or years. it all ties back to viktor’s quote in s1: “in the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.”

Tye

100% agree, on a rewatch it's actually quite a bit better but man that first watch was giving me whiplash. If s1 was 10 eps and s2 was 11-12, the pacing would be elite all the way through

NiToTheNah

oh, everyone on twitter caught it lmao

Bria A.

I don't know much about League, but I wonder if there are actual gods in Arcane's universe. Whenever I think about magic in fictional narratives, there tend to be gods that bestow it or mortals that gain enough power to become a god (like in Dragon Age or D&D, from my experience). Maybe that has something to do with whatever is interacting with Viktor or what Jayce is scared of, I might be totally wrong though lmao.

aj

When she wiped that spit off she directed the wipe towards her mouth. I can’t be the only who caught that. Caitlyn is a freak fam

chefboyarkey

I honestly didn't notice it wasn't in English cause I was...yknow...absorbed in the emotional ass scene happening before me that at least to me conveyed it's point pretty damn effectively. Feels like a YOU problem.

Carlos

and about sky i THINK the arcane itself is using her form so it could manipulate viktor, like that sky IS arcane using viktor

Harry

part of me wants viktor not to die n a part of me says what he was doing had some fucked up consequences he wasnt aware of that could lead to bigger problems.. act 3 better come wit answers

Harry

I’m crying why they want to put Vander down so bad😭

Dontsop Keran

0:41 "i air this bitch out like a queef" roshi got me dying and the episode aint even start 😭

melloburner

I think you guys are forgetting that Singe works under Mel’s mom so him making the beast insane again instead of letting Viktor heal his mind isn’t really under his own accord

Tay

Isn't ekko time powers spoilers for them since they don't play the game??

Frazão

I noticed the use of mandelbrot fractals in the designs of Viktor's sanctuary and the arcane. That's so neat!

aj

Other way around. Viktor is spreading its influence, it makes more sense for Jayce to have seen the future (remember he says “what have we done”) and wants to stop Viktor Viktor just says Jayce is being manipulated because he himself is manipulated, it’s misleading him. Notice how he doesn’t wanna destroy the hexcore anymore

Tay

I’m not the first person to bring this up, but, Ambessa’s four principles: Vision (Cait; sharpshooter), Might (Vi; melee), Guile (Jinx; trap maker), Sacrifice (Isha)

Bria A.

You guys are better than me cause i wanted Jayce dead after that ep.

Ayanda Mpofu

Tbh I think the pacing is perfect or probably even better. We already have all the characters established, their ideology, way of thinking etc. now the story can pick up the pace a little, fitting for the events of season 2 and a slow drama like direction (season 1) would be out of place anyways. Your observation is correct, the pacing did change for sure, characters and their stances in different situations shift and change all around (which is possible due to them beeing properly established in the past season) so you really do just have the freedom to drive the story forward and it also enhances the sense of "chaos" that is also happening. We are currently in the climax and tbh this is picture perfect directing and writing and arcane is one of the highest quality productions in all regards. So yes the pacing is different but not "off", as you said it is the final season and the end of piltover/zauns tale, we also move away from the tame powerscaling, this season escelated heavily into godlike powers and magic and all that which is a huge part of runeterra so this is definitely intentional. Your question will be answered slowly in future season if they will go through with it the way they plan to.

TimmSchmimm

Right?! #JusticeforViktor

WorldWideLove2000

To be fair last season most the eps were out already when they started watching it and they threw it into the schedule because of the request so there wasn't a release schedule.

hokeypokey

Hear me out... it may not just be cope 🙏

WorldWideLove2000

Jayce really brought Viktor back to life against his will just to kill him again.

Josh S.

I’m getting the feeling that’s the case too. I can’t wait to see how it all unfolds

ItsLargeDad

Viktor absorbed Skye and his form was created by her matter and the arcane. After the explosion when the arcane further took root in him as he recovered in that goo sack thing, probably furthered his awareness and connection as when he awoke, he alludes to himself being stripped of certain emotions/humanity

Zephyrs

We just gonna pretend like the show writers aren’t trying to make you feel sympathy now and sway any previous judgments made?

Tremaine

Illiteracy where?

Tremaine

I don't hate on Jayce. I love Jayce and Viktor. Jayce is very impulsive, but I feel like he is being manipulated by "the other will" that was mentioned. As I stated earlier, he is easily influenced. So seeing something he doesn't understand, coupled with his impulsive tendencies, and the possibility that someone or something is trying to manipulate him, I think it's highly plausible that Jayce is messing up by doing what he's doing. Viktor is not taking anyone's free will. They are coming to him for healing. Viktor being connected to all of them may seem wrong, but he's not making them do anything. His hexcore powers are what healed them, and seeing how powerful it is, the people most likely require a constant connection with him for their bodies to remain stable enough to contain their souls. You can see by the trippy animation while Jayce is running around that something strange is up with him. If he is being manipulated, whatever is controlling him may have wanted him to get rid of Viktor so it could then use the people of the commune how it wanted. It probably doesn't want Viktor to become infinitely powerful. I think a lot of people jump to conclusions and assume that great power suddenly equals evil. Not everyone can mentally handle that level of power, so they think it's a bad thing that Viktor can. SPOILER WARNING CAUSE I'VE PLAYED THE GAME... Going off what I know from the game, he is transforming the people to a higher level of existence. As he did with himself. So Salo's breath not appearing in the room while Jayce's did makes sense if Salo's body is not strictly biological. Iykyk. I think the scene where Viktor first heals (When he heals Huck), supports this. When he touches him to heal him and the wind picks up, you can see that it picked up bolts and pieces of scrap metal. He used it to heal him cause like I said, not strictly biological.

WorldWideLove2000

oh wtf.... my guy viktor :c

TimmSchmimm

The Entity likely views Victor as credible threat, or actual obstacle to it extending its influence/ actualising. Thus it sent future Jace to the past in order to eliminate its other half

Expired Breast Milk

I got a theory that ekko, hermandiger, and Jayce all combined into one person since victor said there’s a will within him that isn’t his. And I agree completely agree with what you said Roshi about victors perspective and potentially jace

Caleb Gaming9099

YOOO ur soo right. I didn’t even catch that

Parampreet Singh

Hadimai! Viktor just built the Made in Abyss season 2 hideout

TimmSchmimm

Lmao what Roshi say at the beginning...? There is so much I hope to be wrapped up because we still got the Ekko and Mel plotline happening, whatever Jayce saw, Jinx's mental, the mending/breaking of relationships, Viktor and ofc Viktor ain't DEAD-dead like it's not much but I just hope it's not rushed

Nita - Kento's Widow

Skye is most likely dead and the arcane is just using her image to manipulate Viktor into doing what it wants, which seems to be creating a hive mind. It also may have wanted to stop Viktor from healing Vander at the beginning because it didn't want to risk its own power diminishing to a point where it isn't basically god. Vander is now most likely gone completely and it's just going to be Warwick with his wolf head once he regenerates from Aisha shooting his head off. I can't wait for these new episodes fr.

Diggs

GLORIOUS EVOLUTION YOOOO HAHAHA THAT HYPED ME UP, I need to hop on league and play 1000 games of viktor now

TimmSchmimm

Isha a real one she looked at jinx like I understand it now....I know Victor needs to go but jayce pick the worst time to clap him

Reckless Company

RIP Isha. This is gonna leave Jinx shattered. 3 spheres in the gun? That's a direct parallel to when Powder put 3 of them in the monkey and killed her entire family. "That what inspires us to our greatest good, is also the cause of our greatest evil." Jinx is gonna go FULL Joker. Jayce, WHAT did you see!?

godUsoland

bro in the wrong comment section

Shawn Mondol

Nah absolutely. I've watched both acts a few times now through reactions and while my opinion of it has grown, things are definitely moving way too fast compared to Season 1. The biggest problem is Cait - she makes the right choices, but they should have been more difficult for her. Instead we don't really get to see her struggling with any of them. - Doesn't question Ambessa overriding her orders to keep Singed locked up in a dungeon forever or how she convinced him to cooperate - Switches sides within seconds of meeting Vi despite how toxic their last encounter was - Immediately accepts Jinx being on Vi's side without more than a single word, doesn't argue and doesn't appear to want revenge for her mom (regardless of Jinx saving her in that moment, this one seems wayyy too easy and kind of unearned imo) Like, all of them are understandable to an extent, it's just the pacing that's off. An extra 2-3 episodes this season might've been able to sell them better.

Gilthwixt

12:02 busted out laughing that poor goat 😂

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Deep

It’s because their story is gonna be over after season 2 , season 3 is gonna be completely different league of legend story so it’s likely we won’t see any of this referenced or tied in going forward which kinda sucks

Talib Belcarris

1.) JERRY NEEDS PSYCHIATRIC HELP!!! 2.) #FUCKROBCITY!!! 3.) YOU’ER NOT SMART PAT you annoying RAT!!! 4.) WELLZ STOP SHITTING ON JERRY!!! 5.) EVAN COOL CALM COLLECTED🔥

Neoteric

they dont show it well, but they show singed standing up inside after vander goes beserk, they leave him in their with singed who they thought was passed out, but its implied singed did what he wanted to do when he was alone with vander for that brief moment

Michael Brown

Is Jayce impulsive sometimes sure, but that’s literally everyone on this show san Ekko, it’s cause and effect. Jayce did not want to make weapons until he saw the extent of shimmer. Was done after accidentally killing a kid. That’s a realistic response. He then lost Viktor his bestfriend while being perfectly fine himself. In his confusion and desperation he went to save Vicktor. That’s another realistic response. Also he didn’t know how dangerous Hexcore was because he never knew that it killed Sky. His mission is to destroy the Hexcore(Arcane) using Wild Ruins. We don’t know the full story yet. But if you look at the glimpses that flash from Jayce it looks like Viktors followers are machines/alien monsters. I believe that him, Ekko etc were sent to the future and saw what the cult becomes and now is back to try to stop it. Both Viktor and Jayce are victims to Arcane and the Chaos it is bringing. I think people overly hate on Jayce because they love Viktor so much.

Dennis Asubonteng

My point was: The lyrics are beautiful and would make the scene better if included. Whether through English singing or subtitles. I understand what Riot / Netflix were going for and I respect it. It's just not my preference. Didn't get the impression anyone was genuinely trying to understand what I was saying though. All is good, I took no offense.

Quintin

After that explosion, there's a sound that maybe some league players would know, but maybe that's just cope 💀

Shib

I think ekko just arrived or did something because the explosion just stopped out of nowhere and time paused. Also the gear spinning in the beginning and the end are different one spins longer than the other so he may be rewinding time right now and we just saw a glimpse of an alternative timeline with the first gear.

Derick

This episodes parallels with the last episode of the first season hit hard with the whole "happy ending that could have been" vibe it's done really well.

BornUnMotivated

I think the point a lot of us are trying to make is that Jayce has always been impulsive. He is also easily swayed by those he's close to. In season one he was constantly trying to please Mel and Viktor. I think deep down he has a good heart but he's a people pleaser. And he makes drastic decisions to do it. He went from being fascinated with Hextech after he and his mom were saved by a mage using the arcane, he was against using it for weapons. The he was convinced to use Hextech weapons to fight the undercity, causing a rift between him and Viktor. Then he changed his mind again when he accidentally killed the kid. He then agreed to destroy the Hexcore, then immediately went back on his promise to save the friend he had made his promise to. Now he's on a hellbent mission to destroy it all, while still using it. So right now, he is either just completely off the deep end, or, he is being influenced by another will like they were saying.

WorldWideLove2000

so ok Jinx always calling Viktor metal makes me think that's how we're supposed to see him too and so now he makes perfect sense to me compared to what I know from the game. Jace threw me off completely but I'm here for it and I am extremely surprised with Caitlyn and how she acted.

BornUnMotivated

Penguin RIGHT before too. Now that i think to myself we also are getting cobra kai(not really sad sad but a banger as well as all these on this list). Man this season of shows is going to be unmatched for a while lmfao.

Panda

Am I the only one that felt like the pacing was off in act 2? Might because I want more and I know this is the last season, but I feel like each act had enough story to be its own season, instead of being crammed into three 40 min episodes

Thunter

at this point i'm just here for whatever viktor is gonna become i don't care anymore

badln

ngl, seein that big bully ass nigga bite it was SOOOO satisfying

Tejiri Ubiedi

i don't think viktor's work on vander was undone that was singed and the serum cause we can see him awake

badln

Exactly! Thank you! Yes, Jayce is impulsive, but I feel like "the will" working in him is a force that just magnified that aspect of his personality and made him go nuts.

WorldWideLove2000

Both times Jayce built weapons was in retaliation to evens from Zaun tho? He made his hammer to take down Silco’s shimmer factories with Vi and he made Caitlyn’s Gun/ others after the attack at the memorial. Both are good reasons to fight back. Both times he’s against it before something happens that escalate.

Dennis Asubonteng

I only came to that conclusion because the logic behind what youve said previously was shakey at best, so its the only thing that could reasonably explain why you were ignoring every other aspect of the scene, and everything related to it leading up. Given that youve gained a bit more of a different perspective in light of some other comments here, i apologize if it was offensive.

Alorian

Jayce is basically the manifestation of "destruction on impulse". He needs to take a chill pill 😅

WorldWideLove2000

I think Jayce fcked up, but not by his own doing. He's probably going to have the biggest crash out in act 3 after he realizes what all happened

WorldWideLove2000

Singed got Warwick/Vander with thee potion. They show him standing after WW went feral. Also I'm pretty sure Viktor is evil and is being tricked as well.

James Noël

Cliff hanger of doom Evil ass cliffhanger

Ziggy

Hive mind was the wrong choice of words, you're right. The ability to puppet others and being tied to Viktor* feels suspicious. We've received hints from Season 1 and now 2 that the Arcane is a lot more dangerous than the messiah act we've gotten this season. Sky feels like something to manipulate Viktor. This has spun off from the existing lore, but I'm here to see how it plays out and am banking on Jayce having made the right call.

Emko

The true glorious evolution begins lets goo viktor villain arc

PJ Rivera

I kinda hope wherever the hell Jayce, Ekko and Heimerdinger went ... that Ryze ( and/or Zilean ) is the reason for Jayce's return and why they made it so dire that he kill his own friend for the greater good. Assuming y'all know who Ryze is anyway. Though maybe it was Heimerdinger that told Jayce to do what needs to be done since right now, he's the only established character who has seen the consequences of the Arcane going out of whack in the hands of man. Heimerdinger even said that it technically isn't the person who wields the Arcane at fault, it's the Arcane itself manipulating the man, so Viktor had to be put out of commission before it lead him to do something destructive.

Isaac

I watched all of them the same day. Because I hate myself.

Gilthwixt

LoL Players playing the ending at 200% volume, huffing copium because of a potential sound effect that could be real or imagined 😭 IYKYK

Gilthwixt

A hive mind is a single individual who controls the behaviors of others. Viktor is not controlling anyone else; he is simply connected to everyone he has touched. If their entire body and mind has been healed by being connected to him, of course it makes sense they wouldn't be able to continue living without that. You point out being suspicious yet don't question jayce when he and his weapon are clearly touched by the arcane and altered them

Reapers Odium

Ekko VA was on an interview with Necrit (biggest league lore yter) and he said act 3 is probably the craziest thing he ever saw so we in for a ride (Especially hyped for ekkos new power)

zILovePelmeni _

I've seen this mentioned elsewhere and I swear y'all shippers are different breed lmao but fuck it, knowing Fortiche it probably was intentional.

Gilthwixt

bruh why they leave that starting bit in lol

Tejiri Ubiedi

Riot has announced a "secret" VGU for a champion coming soon and that we'll have to wait until after Arcane finishes airing to see it, and the easiest assumption is Viktor. Given the hints in Jayce's visions I'd bet money they're gonna change Viktor's lore to be tied to the Void and retcon the original lore.

Gilthwixt

Ekko and Heimerdinger watching this shit with jaws dropped.

David

Everyone was already dead viktors cult were basically extensions of himself. When Jayce came back salo wasn’t breathing like he was. Jayce did what he deemed right in the moment like anyone would

Code Kisaro

So idk if anyone else noticed but at the start of the episode the gear victor drops spins 3 times before it cuts. Then later in the episode right at the end the gear is spinning but drops before it does the first spin. Now this is where my theory might be wonky but it’s possible echo gained his time jump ability and in the first burst went beyond his normal limit of 5 seconds. So it’s possible that maybe he went before everything happened but couldn’t stop it?? Idk bruh but some time shit is going on

Imari

Jayce has been shown throughout both seasons to be extremely impulsive and willing to jump to violence to justify it. Their entire goal was to use hextech to help people and yet Jayce created several weapons due to inability to control his emotions.

Reapers Odium

I don't think Sky is real. I think it's the Arcane personified in a way for Vicktor to understand. Partially because of guilt because he's the reason she died

Life101!

Remember how Singed said he could concoct a serum to prevent Viktor's power from healing Vander? It was orange. Some people are speculating Singed snuck in and did it during the chaos as Jinx/Vi/Caitlyn ran outside. Idk how likely that is, mfer is fast in game but not that fast, and not nearly that sneaky.

Gilthwixt

Yeah, obviously the ONLY solution is by killing everyone while also still using hextech and having it implanted in him lmao. I have no idea why everyone believes Jayce's course of action is correct

Reapers Odium

Season 4?

Samuela NTETE

Not only that when Jayce encountered Salo in that room Salo was shown to not have any breath meanwhile Jayce, Ekko, and Hemi all did when they were there. Leaving me to think that those that Victor heal aren’t “alive”. Also I don’t trust “Sky”. If anything I think Victor is the one working with another force.

Dennis Asubonteng

Finally someone else had the same thought. They forgot his regeneration capability is insanely fast and he was literally dying but not dying at the same time, on top of being devoid of his human mind anymore. The other working theory is that singed injected him with the serum when he woke up. You do see him just standing there after Warwick is starting to rampage.

ItsLargeDad

Vander didn't die, Viktor was trying to separate the beast (which is perfect shimmer) that manifested inside Vander. If Viktor was successful, Vander would regain his mental but the perfect shimmer would be destroyed.

Jigga Man

yeah i edited the reply n talked abt it. Either something evil in the Arcane or what Roshi was saying that it might be a alternate future Viktor.

Bad Karma

About the Sky situation. I always took it as this: When Viktor woke up alive, his guilt and grief over Sky's death caused him to develop a subconscious manifestation of her in his mindscape. You've seen it in media before where a character creates a "ghost" of someone that impacted them in some way. Like Garfiel developing subconscious Elsa that speaks to him, or Wanda literally manifesting Vision in WandaVision out of sadness, or that traumatized little kid Nataku from Fire Force having Rekka in his head, rent free, cheering him on to his detriment. I'm taking Sky as that though I do lean heavy on it actually being Sky and her soul was just absorbed into the Hexcore and now that he's fully fused to it, he has access to speaking to her soul and she's acting as a spiritual friend. I hope the hexcore isn't using her appearance to manipulate him because he is such a kind man trying to legit help, but clearly he's has something beyond him that'll have horrible consequences so I'm not that mad at Jayce for doing what he did, especially since he had to shoot someone he loves for the greater good. I'mma need the context from Jayce's perspective asap.

Isaac

relatable...

Richard Batten

Also a very possible possibility. We’ve seen it in shows before. Hell the black rose used the image of Mel brother against her.

Semaj Brown

Now I’m very curious because things are gonna play out 1 of 2 ways. Either Jayce crashed out wrongly and actually causes the bigger issue or he is saving everybody from further infection in a way. I only say this because Viktor even said he is basically not acting of his own volition. He was in a way being controlled.

ItsLargeDad

I honestly believe that Sky is the Hexcore(Arcane) using her image to manipulate Victor

Dennis Asubonteng

I can't believe we had Dan Da Dan ep 7, Look Back and Arcane happen around the same time, depression streak is crazy.

TheMilkMan

Damn.. Isha.. damn man.. this is sad

Jigga Man

He will be back in Act 3 although I’m curious as to when and how they are gonna show him developing his Z-Drive. It won’t do much for the overall story unless they retcon stuff because he can only go back in time like 6 seconds I think it is.

ItsLargeDad

I think that’s actually not Sky and is the Hexcore itself using her image to manipulate Victor

Dennis Asubonteng

Warwick puking up "lava" is because Singed woke up and hit him with that serum.

Chris Johnson

bro where the fuck is ekko, imma need him to do the thing cuz this shit is fucked

Fuji

Sheera was definitely missing exactly what Roshi said. Singed saw what Viktor became and wanted to use him, however seeing as his power was finite he was trying to fix that in him. Which in order to do that he had to sacrifice Vander. Then he would have brought his daughter to Viktor to save her after he gained Warwick’s regenerative capabilities.

ItsLargeDad

But only the first two seasons. S3 can stay in the trash.

Gilthwixt

In the scene where Sky "dies", when the hexcore went crazy and vaporized her, it definitely did destroy her body but whatever was left (maybe her soul) was absorbed into the Hexcore, which IS PART of Viktor now. So. she's literally inside of him. I don't believe she's her own person though. I believe she's only "alive" because Viktor is sustaining her, and if he ceased to be she probably wouldn't exist anymore. That is to say, if it even is her and not some puppeteer like what was happening with Mel.

Bad Karma

Time for 'the boy saviors' climactic return.

Godrick

I believe when Sky died, she was absorbed into the hexcore while it changed Victor's hand. now that the hexcore is one with Victor, absorbed during his evolution in act 1, sky is in his head alongside the hexcore

Tripleflipb

i really don't have an complaints about Arcane, but i realllly wanted to catch up with jayce and ekko and see where they went, and I hope this last drop doesn't rush that arc lol

Delinda Arts

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Kimani ❌

My prediction is that Jayce is in a time loop and Ekko is the one allowing him to keep attempting. He is giving me Cable from Xmen vibes. Specifically cable from xmen97

Asher Ealey

I think Jayce made the right decision

Asher Ealey

Obviously Jayce saw something crazy for him to just blast viktor so easily

gr2ves

do u play league? it would be funny if they rework him and make him like sion i will lose my mind lmao

mercury_black17

That echo joke will never get old 😂

jared zavala

I’m just joking lol, it was a thing last season people would annoy the fuck out of them saying when’s the next episode. But thank you!

Wizard

BlueSmurf, the agree you don't need the lyrics to understand her sacrificing. The lyrics of the song are very beautiful though and I think it would've made a nice addition to the scene if not sang then with subtitles. I understand it's not what everyone desires and it might be a bit nitpicky but I don't disagree :)

Quintin

This weekend when they come out, Saturday eastern time

GigaDirt

Arcane episode 7 when?

Wizard

Wow Alorian what an assumption. I don't dislike Chinese. I've been respectful and explained stated why I preferred to understand the song lyrics during the scene. I would've said the same if it was French or something else. Wtf man.

Quintin

Yea I think that's what they were going for. Like I don't think you need to it to be in English to understand that she was sacrificing herself for them. Like I didn't even noticed It wasn't in English cause I was so focused on her.

BlueSmurf

I think Viktor thinks he is doing the right thing but the arcane is using Sky looks to manipulate him and Jayce saw whats really about to happen. Also at the end it looked like Ekkos W those from lol know.

Jorge Viera

Sheera was confusing herself at the end there lol

Itanna

My glorious crash out king Jayce🙏🏿 idk what he saw but gotta respect the conviction. Need my dawg echo back asap

O

This about to be jinx biggest crash out 😭

Kingmakaii

Virtual, I see where you're coming from. You're right it's similar to what Jayce explained with the wild rune. I see what they were going for. Maybe that'll make me appreciate the choice ce more. Thanks for your input!

Quintin

Idk I think we will get more explanation in the last act because I think he seen something bad that will happen because Jace isn't the type to kill anybody. Maybe he saw victors future and that it goes wrong. Like victor could think that he's doing good but he's really not. One thing that's noticable is that when Victor heals people they seem very devoid of emotion after. Alot of them seem to have no emotion to vandar or Jace tweaking out. Why does Viktor dying kill them? They seem to have a hivemind and I think jace saw what would happen if Viktor kept healing people.

BlueSmurf

Also the way everybody in the commune went down is seriously giving "soul being sucked into the Void, the Arcane or to whatever entity presenting as Sky" vibe. It may really be the best that Viktor didn't get the chance to heal more people.

Gevere

As for why sky is there with Viktor. I think it’s because she died touching him and became part of him. Remember sky was trying to save Viktor when he was stuck to the hex core thing or ruin. He was touching it and she was pulling him. Then she disappeared into dust. That’s the only reason why I can see only her showing to him like that

Semaj Brown

day 2 of asking them to react to The Umbrella Academy

Giorno_Yoshikage

I don't think that's really sky though. I think that's the hextech showing him that to manipulate him. Also he seen her in the first act when he healed someone for the very first time.

BlueSmurf

Yes, Vander wasn't affected by Viktor's "death", or else he would've simply gone down like everyone else. It was definitely Singed's serum (which had an orange vial in it). Also agreed with your first point. Even putting aside all the elements pointing out that Jayce had definitive reasons to act like that, he might actually not be responsible for much of the damage here surprisingly enough.

Gevere

I can’t hate Jayce for what he did. Can’t imagine what he saw in limbo he’s trying to keep whatever the fuck was going to happen from happening

Code Kisaro

I hate to tell you this but that version of Viktor is still happening

HypeRec

Now put respect on my goat Isha dont ever call her powder again😭

Tyshawn Evans

You complain about it not knowing enough about what shes feeling when theres nothing more that needs to be added, because you are literally seeing what you are asking for, but ignoring it because you dont like chinese or some shit. You: "i want to know what shes thinking in the moment because she cant speak" The show: "Heres a literal live feed of her thoughts while shes running into the fight" You: "BuT ThE SoNg iS iN AnOtHeR LaNgUaGe?!" like wut bro? lol

Alorian

anyone else feel like the Isha sacrifice was an ad for a new Annie skin?

Godrick

Did you guys just completely forget that Sky was shown to be with Victor in the first act of this season? Her being in this episode wasn't some big reveal.

Johnathon

It took 3.5 years for vander to be reunited with his family again. It took 3.5 years for jinx to have her own little family. It took jayce 1 day to do that

Anh Duc Vu

First of all this was the craziest cliffhanger I have ever seen. I find it worse than waiting 3 years after arcane S1x9. Second of all this whole episode was just depression man. After crying from happiness in EP5 we get to have a glimpse at a future and FUCKING JAYCE just fucks it all up. Like cmon man, I know you probably had an amazing reason, but you could've done it like 1 hour later

Virtual TimeLine

I think Viktor was 100% correct when he said another force was working inside Jayce. The runic stone Jayce had is now embedded into his wrist, his mind is all scrambled up. Viktor even said he saw that Jayce's mind had suffered. It's probably some malicious being that is influencing Jayce to destroy the good people using the Arcane. I feel like everyone just kind of forgot that a mage used the Arcane to save Jayce and his mom. Just like any other power, whether physical objects or not, the Arcane can be used for good or evil. Just like Viktor stated at the end of this episode. Completely destroying a power because you're afraid it will be used wrongly is ignorant. Arcane isn't evil, but can be used for evil - just like guns, knives, fists, etc.

WorldWideLove2000

That's the whole reason. Just like we say from Jayce explaining to ekko about the wild runes. Isha uses grunts and other noises, something raw. Something thats not a language but still feel. That's the reason for the song being in another language, you cannot understand it, but you can feel it. A masterful choice imo

Virtual TimeLine

Bro RIP Isha she went out like a G but shits still sad 😔

Boogie's Games

Damn, Sheera always be catching the smallest things, I never noticed Isha grabbing the hexcore at the beginning of the episode

Aiden Bjortvedt

Viktor said the thing! 😁

Khalil Tippin

Not 100%, but I believe the reason Warwick/Vander was spewing what looked like lava is because the "touch" of Viktor was trying to kill him like everyone else, but his blood keeps healing him. Could be wrong, and could be something else entirely.

Revurus

Pretty sure Skye is a figment of which the arcane conjured to communicate and manipulate victor.

Fizzy

He breathing he alive no matter what the outside look like

Luhbabytay

Fizzy, just because you disagree with someone doesn't make them stupid. I think you're just missing my point.

Quintin

When Jayce came back from the Wild Rune, we see these silhouettes snap into him, also when he's about to kill Victor we see his head spliting. Viktor and Skye said that before the portal closed there was another voice, something "Ancient" and that there was another will working inside of him. Everyone is making it seem like everything he is doing is just Jayce, but I'm pretty sure he isnt in his right mind.

Revurus

Fucking Peak!!!!

ShaquanVirse

Alorian, that was made clear in the show yes. I'm talking about her last scene and having a deeper understanding. You're not going to tell me you understand the song as well as someone who understands the lyrics.

Quintin

Tf did Isha do to you bro

Ashton Wizard

Season 2 has been awesome

Frederick

You just bitching for the sake of it cause this comment is stupid as shit.

Fizzy

Nah fuck heimer, maybe if he said more than "im 2000 years old trust me dawg" and didn't actively ignore people suffering on the regular people would have listened.

Panda

I swear nobody is forcing you to care, doesn’t mean everybody should feel what you feel. Obviously there are people who share your sentiment fam

Teejay

What if Jayce's reasoning is him not being in his right mind. Because Viktor and Skye both said that there was something else influencing him, and through imagery we see jayce being pulled and split in different directions insinuating that it's not just him inside of his mind/body.

Revurus

I think it’s just the Arcane fucking up an using Viktor tbh I don’t thinks sky is actually in there just like black rose was trying to use Mel’s brother against them

Yeh2001

Two things can exist: Jayce might have seen something and his actions are valid, but also he picked the WORST time to interfere. Vander had his mind back and was speaking! Since Vander was already touched by Viktor he got affected too sadly.

User100

Isha was on the streets with nothing and Jinx saved her life effectively giving her a family and new start. Shes fighting to protect the things that matter to her. If you cant get that line of thinking just by what was shown, lyrics aint gunna help you fam.

Alorian

There is no concrete proof of it, but it does seem to me to be more of a manifestation of viktors guilt/the old part of him as well as a representation of his mind breaking down from either the hextech overuse or touching the arcane. Sky regularly shows compassion, restraint and warns viktor. Similar to how he did jayce. Where as the current viktor is more on his massiah quest at all costs, where as before he was hesitant about it even to the point of asking jayce to destroy the hexcore.

Panda

Yeah, bc all Singed is gonna do is imbue Viktor with shimmer, making him not only more powerful, but much more antagonistic

Djones

I think viktor seeing skye is just the embodiment of his guilt, the arcane is just trying to trick him

Saud

Roshi a troll for leaving that beginning in 💀. But I do like to see y'all "break from character" if you will

User100

I respect the Victor support but its kind of like, "You're just going to completely ignore the Hive Mind shit, huh? The fact that everyone fell apart when Victor got shot? You don't find ANY of this suspicious?" I could be wrong this weekend, but as of right now I'm on the "Jayce is taking the L for everyone else, murdering his best friend" team.

Emko

Jinx: Yah know I think I'm finally feeling happy again Arcane: Nah, we can't have that shit!

OMegaWattz

Not established but I just think she’s not real because of her ashes in season 1 but because she was getting absorbed it’s possible that it’s actually her

Requiem

Butthead, perhaps it is. I would've preferred to finally understand Isha in her final moments through the lyrics.

Quintin

Theyre guessing.

Alorian

I don’t care what Jayce reasoning is. Whatever happens it’s his fault for forcing the hexcore on victor who was ok with dying last season after he told Jayce to destroy it

Kraddaku

My understanding is the hex core destroyed sky's physical body but absorbed her consciousness. That's why when his body was taken to the bench after the explosion she was pushing the hexcore towards him merging the two souls within the single body. Fun fact there's a league champion called Varus who also is an amalgamation of two lovers who were fused with an ancient demigod to become the single entity.

Oliverson

John, I'm not saying music doesn't convey emotions without lyrics. I'm saying lyrics add more to the music and that's lost when you can't understand it. Doesn't mean the song isn't beautiful.

Quintin

So. Isha calmly chose to use multiple hextech gemstones (the stable version of hextech) in an attempt to save her family from a monster, whereas Powder rashly used multiple hextech crystals (the unstable version of hextech) in an attempt to save her family from a monster. Even though other people likely died in the process, they ALL likely would have perished if not for Isha (either way their deaths are not on her, but on what they did to Vander). She is everything Powder wished she could have been back then: a “big fat hero”. And she was inspired by Jinx herself to be that hero. So basically Jinx’s first 100% healthy relationship was with a more self-assured version of her past self. I don’t know if Jinx will be pushed beyond the point of no return after this. I believe her relationship with Isha and her mended view of who she used to be is stronger than that. But who knows what these writers are cooking, that’s just what I would assume. As long as what happens makes sense I’m up for whatever lol.

Chelly

Is that established at all? Or do you have some League knowledge beyond what the show is doing? Because it totally seems like she lives in another dimension or something now

John Cedar

Ivan, we praise great lyricists in music because there's meaning in lyrics. You don't get the full picture by just hearing the music.

Quintin

Sky isn’t real btw, I’m pretty sure she’s apart of his imagination like the arcane or his subconscious using her as a means of communication/companionship

Requiem

it has to be said but victor as the best new canon W from this series. lol all he used to be is an angry warhammer 40K Mechanicus.

alex amyot

They don't make it specifically for the show all the time, they have reused multiple songs they had made personally years before the show air'd season 1. The song playing during the warwick hug scene was from the varus cinematic. We got multiple worlds songs used, etc. They are just REALLY good at music, before they made the TV series it was a meme that riot was a Music Production Studio first and a gaming dev second. Now they are an animated studio first, music production studio second, and a game dev third. lmfao

Panda

How do you think people who don't speak English connect to the English speaking dominance in popular music and TV? You can feel a song without understanding the lyrics, in a way it forces you to delve deeper into all the things the artist is using besides language to convey the emotion of the song. Also, what about instrumentals? Orchestral music, rock guitar solos, soft piano music, etc. Music conveys emotions without words all the time.

John Cedar

“Crank Cam”🤣😭

Bosastar

Fun fact! During the brief shots of Isha and Jinx hanging out, Jinx's eyes will briefly flash blue. It's to symbolize Isha bringing out the "Powder" in her. Isha's name also means "protector", and she took that shit literally.

Ashes2Ash

Couple things i want to point out(no spoilers or theory's), Singed(Dr Ravek or the Mad Alchemist) pointed out to us and viktor acknowledged that viktor only had a finite(limited) supply of power. The question comes what happens when he runs out to those people, would it be the same as what jayce did but on a larger scale with how many more he cured? I would also like to point out, that after Vander broke out, and we got ambessa's reaction to her man dying. It cut to singed again, standing in the room. If you remember Caitlyn knocked him out, but he still had the serum on him to make vander uncurable. So beyond the affect of viktor dying, it's probably fair to assume he got hit with that drug too.

Panda

Sky was absorbed by the Hexcore when she died and remember that since Viktor woke up in his new form, he heard and was guided by Sky to Zaun where he healed the first one (Huck)

Sylisen E.

Jayce basically seeing demons right now😭

Bosastar

"The whole show we've been unable to understand her since she doesn't speak, then when we get a song that represents how she feels, you still can't understand her because it's in a different language from the show and has no subtitles either." I'm pretty sure that's the point,,like that's kinda what they were going for

Butthead faxe

if you notice, when Vi spits in cait's face, cait wipes it towards her mouth not away from it, and is fixated on vi's lips

Jaelyn Mcgee

lupa just silently in pain the entire post episode discussion he is HURT

CuteAdorableDog

7:05 That right there is why i love watching Roshi. most ppl seems to think that jayce is on the wrong side of this conflict. But if shimmer is a byproduct of what i think it is... Boy his making the right call!!

alex amyot

These animators/ writers are extraordinary. In Isha's flashback, Jinx's eyes briefly illuminate blue, symbolizing Powder during her happier moments rather than Jinx.

Rin Okumura

If you need someone to spell out how you need to feel and you don't get that from the art and tune, it's entirely on you xdd

Ivan Garcia

I'm not a fan of Isha's song being in Chinese. The whole show we've been unable to understand her since she doesn't speak, then when we get a song that represents how she feels, you still can't understand her because it's in a different language from the show and has no subtitles either. Yes you can look up a translation somewhere but that completely kills the immersion and lacks the impact that actually understanding the lyics during the scene could've had. Still love the show though.

Quintin

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hasnain Khan

I love 6:16 Roshi and Lupa trying to roast Sheera but she's just locked tf in and doesn't care lol

Beagle

Makes sense, they have a whole archive of LoL bangers on YouTube and Spotify that I've saved.

Bones

Viktor also joining the ranks of the Dunkin Doughnut crew. Up there with ace, toji, whitebeard and many other goats.

Panda

pretty sure Singed got back up and used whatever he made to make vander like that, sure Jayce didn't help but the magma part was Singed

EaterOfRice23

Singed gotta be related to Shou Tucker.

Oracle

Bro them saying oh it’s ekko is the funniest shit ever bro

🔥

@Chelly Vander, similar to the other „touched“ was affected by victor being blasted, but unlike them he didn’t become a lifeless puppet that screams, he became something else. But you can still see the fingerprints where victor touched him, glowing with that orange hue when he comes out of that hut so his crashout is directly linked to Jayce donutting Victor

Gucci Pucci

It’s not the fact that Vander is involved in anything, it’s the fact that Jayce killing Victor just reversed all the progress he had made in helping Vander

Nick Vaughn

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. Best animated project I’ve seen in a long time, maybe ever.

ItsLargeDad

I’ve been seeing people talk about this for awhile now and it’s hilarious lmao

ItsLargeDad

They make the music specifically for this show

MrGuy3000

Real shit 😂

Rex Perez

The architecture in Victor's village reminds me a lot of topology optimization and bio-mimicry in engineering. The spirals in the structures are reminiscent of Fibonacci spirals, which seems to imply that The Hexcore gives them the most efficient and natural designs, maybe even a new way of thinking. Similar to the way Jayce described the difference between Hextech runes and wild runes to Ekko, it looks much more organic and alien than the rigid, polygonal architecture that humans usually design.

John Cedar

Oh hell yea burn the remains or whatever to make sure there ain’t a single piece of him left

Nick Vaughn

i mean she already stuck her tongue down VI's throat so its not that big of a deal XD

Jdogzero Silverblade

She's down astronomically for Vi

bluism

how is Vander at all involved in what Jayce chose to do here lmao

Chelly

We lost 2 Victors within a week or less....

Djones

The only Im having with Jayce is the fact that he probably didn't take his corpse. Like if imma destroy the apex form of Hextech, imma Vision that mfer.

Djones

Caitlyn a freak she wiped the spit towards her mouth not away

CuteAdorableDog

love when people confidently admit their media illiteracy like this

Chelly

Whoever selected the music for this show needs a raise. Every scene has a song that goes with it like peanut butter and jelly.

Bones

are they not gods

Zack

Completely on Jayce’s side. It’s unfortunate that Vi and Jinx had to watch Vander die again but he shouldn’t have been alive in the first place if you could even call him being Frankensteined into a monster alive

Nick Vaughn

Great more depression😀

_Kiing

First 5 seconds: as you can see we have 3 reaction YouTubers in their natural habitat lol

Jean Lambert Ackah

ok bro

amalia

Finally

namnas

Jayce slander is always acceptable and hilarious 🗣️

Uhohmykokoro (Ari)

These reactions are like crack 😭 Imma be in withdrawal till next monday yall 🫡

Jay

Yesssirr

Bona Fide

Cliffhanger-kun strikes again

bleach

Lesgoooo 🔥

V STAN

Rin Okumura

GET BEHIND ME JAYCE I WILL PROTECT YOU

Hori Zon

Nope fuck that guy he should've llisten to Heim and none of this would've happened

Kisuke01

Jinx finna hit Sevika with the Iron Man "I lost the kid" 😢. Also I'm mad as hell cause this is like Season 1 in episode 6 they reconcile only for shit to hit the fan later we're just doing it again fuck Mel's mom.

Kisuke01

Preach it loud preach it proud we stand by our man.

Panda

Nobody forcing you to big guy

Divinerights

Jayce did nothing wrong

Prxj3ct

The fuck did you say when you were walkin in roshi lmfao.

Panda

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

PJ Winnie

the ending is straight depression

JAY

This is one of the few times I refuse to be made to feel bad for the villain I have no sympathy for powder 1 or 2

Tremaine

omg i was waiting for thisssss

Gage Ballou