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If you could change one Middle East foreign policy decision, what would it be?

Simone Ledeen takes on the desert island challenge.

If you could change one Middle East foreign policy decision, what would it be?

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Here's an opportunity to hear some directly related follow up discussion on PNAC activities. https://x.com/NewsBud_/status/1948746508410535956?t=-0j15H72qX-nWaY4jKW6DA&s=19

Robert Diggins

Abandoning Israel would make 9/11's easy and popular? Could you explain a little, bc I don't think we know what happened on 9/11, besides the simple narrative of 19 religious extremists used box cutters on 4 planes and 3 of them hit their targets, while 1 crashed in Pennsylvania. Then the two planes that hit the wtc towers 1 & 2 caused the total destruction of those towers, as well as wtc7 later that afternoon, in a symetic collapse, with the load bearing interior twisting and contorting and then collapsing, before the exterior collapsed, most windows intact, at free fall acceleration (these are from the Final Report from NIST, who, during public input sessions during the 7 years it took to produce it, were asked about free fall acceleration and replied, "No, that would be impossible, because it would mean there was nothing in its path to slow it down.". That opinion apparently changed by the time they published the Final Report, which took a long time, since they had to explain the observed freefall acceleration, shown to them by a high school science teacher who did a frame by frame analysis as a class project ...with high school students. So, they came up with "the inside collapsed before the outside", using language that apparently made it too difficult to read, by the average person.) So, there was a fund drive and common people pitched in to fund a 3 year study by the University of Alaska, Fairbanks (UAF) Engineering Department, which was published and totally destroyed NIST's computer model, cites them for not including things like the sheer studs that were there to prevent such a failure (NIST said they were using a first time ever cause of building collapse, called "Thermal Expansion", which just means that heat expanded steel and that pushed another piece out of its seat and cause a failure of a single column #79 at one spot. Then, the continue, this failure propogated horizontally, across all columns in the football field sized, trapezoidal building. Then, all of the columns could totally fail within the same fraction of a second it would take to have a symerrical collapse, which is still problematic, since they said that one side of the trapezoidal building was damaged by falling debris from the collapse of the twin towers, which is what caused "normal office fires" to start and travel around looking for new normal office fire fuel for hours. But the steel in wtc7 was fireproofed and rated at 3 hours, which is longer than the normal office fires burned in any one place. So, we have video testimony from Barry Jennings, who died around the date that NIST released their WTC7 Final Report. He and another City official had gone to the NYC Emergency Bunker in WTC7 and found it empty. Then they were told to get out of the building. When they were leaving, there were explosions that knocked them down in the stairwell and destroyed the structure enough that they couldn't go further. Then there's video of their rescue, by the NYCFD. Jennings talked about stepping on dead bodies. This was in the AM, hours before the "normal office fires" caused "thermal expansion", which somehow caused the failure of one column (79) by expanding just enough...IN ONE DIRECTION... without the sheer studs that were there and that caused the lateral spread of column failures all across the trapezoidal building with damage on one side, so they could all totally fail within the same fraction of a second, so that the entire load bearing interior of the trapezoidal building to collapse, BEFORE the videotaped exterior, most windows intact, could achieve free fall acceleration in its totally symmetrical collapse, and not fall to one side. And we know that foreknowledge of the WTC7 collapse was spreading far and wide, with a few different news networks reporting its total and complete collapse ~20 minutes before it happened. The BBC did report that live, with WTC7 still standing in the background of the shot, seconds before the connection to the live feed was lost. (Boy, that Daylight Saving Time is a vitch for other countries, isn't it?) There were hundreds of firefighters who gave testimony of hearing explosives, that were omitted from the Commission and NIST Reports. There were many National Security whistle blowers, vetted to make sure they weren't just complaining about not getting a promotion, but had seen criminal waste, fraud, and abuse, who contacted the 9/11 Commission, because they wanted to give sworn testimony related to the attacks. The vast majority of them were turned away, while the Commission advertised "turning over every stone". The ones who were able to teatify did so behind closed doors and their testimony was omitted from the Report. I'm not offering anyone the answer of "What Really Happened". I'm trying to let you know that THEY DID LIE TO US AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, EVEN THOUGH BERNIE KERRICK (RIP) DID RECEIVE THAT INTACT PASSPORT OF ONE OF THE HIJACKERS, FOUND IN THE RUBBLE OF THE WTC THAT DESTROYED EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF THE JET FUEL WE SAW BURN IN FIREBALLS OUTSIDE THE TOWERS. EVEN THOUGH HE'S A GREAT GUY AND WE TRUST HIM, WE WERE LIED TO AND HEACY STEEL BEAMS WERE SENT FLYING LATERALLY AT 60+ MPH WHEN THE TOP 10% OF THE TOWERS CRUSHED THE 90% BELOW THEM, EVEN THOUGH THE CENTRAL SUPPORT VEAMS GOT PROGRESSIVELY THICKER TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING AND WE HAVE MANY REPORTS OF STREAMS OF MOLTEN METAL AND THE USGS FOUND IRON MICROSPHERES (WHAT HAPPENS WITH SURFACE TENSION ON SMALL DROPLETS OF MELTED STEEL) IN THE DUST SAMPLES. THAT'S THE GOVERNMENT AGENCY - THE US GEOLOGICAL SURVEY. THEY FOUND EVIDENCE OF NELTED STEEL, WHICH DOESN'T MELT AT PEAK TEMPS OF JET FUEL, MUCH OF WHICH WE SAW BURNING OUTSIDE THE BUILDING RIGHT AFTER THE PLANES IMPACTED. AND WE HAVENT THE BEEN TOLD ABOUT HOW FAR BACK FOREKNOWLEDGE OF THE ATTACKS GOES, BC THAT TESTIMONY WAS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND OMITTED FROM THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT. AND LOOK UP MICHAEL SPRINGMANN, WHO DENIED TERRORIST VISAS, BUT WAS OVERRULED BY HIS BOSS. ⚠️ With all that, HOW can you say that you think defending Israel will prevent more 9/11's? WE. DON'T. KNOW. WHAT. HAPPENED. AND. WE. WERE. TOLD. VERIFIABLE. LIES. 💡I have an idea! Why don't we use this community to call for those "9/11 Papers" Trump said he would declassify, before the upcoming anniversary?! Does anybody want to know more about what happened on 9/11? Is it just too close to home? Would we be insulting the victims families? I'm responding to a statement built on layers of propaganda, while there were instances of Israelis celebrating, because it meant we'd be attacking their enemies, and being arrested in a van which contained traces of explosives, held, failed lie detector tests, and then released for diplomatic reasons and then appeared on an Israeli talk show, saying they were there "to document the event". Maybe something was lost in translation. I'm certainly not going to say that Israel was involved in a false flag, using their front company, Urban Moving Systems, and some "art students", because I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. ALL I KNOW IS THAT ONE YEAR VEFORE IT HAPPENED, THE PROJECT FOR A BEW AMERICAN CENTURY (PNAC) PUBLISHED A REPORT, TITLED "REBUILDING AMERICA'S DEFENSES", THAT STATED THAT ONLY "A NEW PEARL HARBOR" COULD SPEED UP THE PROCESS OF PUTTING SO MANY RESOURCES INTO THE MILITARY, THAT THE GOAL OF UNCHALLENGEABLE GLOBAL DOMINANCE COULD BE ACHIEVED MORE QUICKLY. THEN WE HAVE A BUNCH OF VETS, INCLUDING SHAWN, SAYING THEY ARE UPSET ABOUT BEING LIED INTO IRAQ, BUT EVERYONE SEEMS TO THINK THEY KNOW WTF HAPPENED ON 9/11. CAN YOU SEE THE HYPOCRISY?!!! I CAN. IF YOU CAN'T, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A LISTEN TO SOME NARRATIVE ABOUT PNAC AND THEIR ADVENTURES IN GLOBBAL DOMINANCE, TONIGHT. HERE: https://x.com/RichardGage_911/status/1948771026948788659?t=O5lukxI8bVhZitqXoBb8Jg&s=19 It's probably a good idea to consider that this group has some of the war profiteers you get so upset about. "Who's Afraid of Sibel Edmonds?", to quote the American Conservative November 2009 Cover Story Title. You coming? 👂 or 🙈🙉🙊? You can even ask questions. It won't be too crowded. Come with a question or at least some interest in what might be enlightening on a subject related to what IT'S OK TO BE MAD ABOUT - LYING US INTO IRAQ. 🧐 THAT'S PNAC TOO.

Robert Diggins

Don't target Israel, nor abandon them like we have done time and again with the Kurds. 9/11's would become easy and popular.

Jesse Raymond

Accountability? W for sure. I’m sorry to hear about your brother and yes, we have all lost people because of Iraq and the decision. Our government made not good. The tribunal of Jesus Christ will be the ultimate judge who is right who was wrong

Patmos

We should only be going there as missionaries. Not for any military actions. You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing things more than once expecting different results

Grampa Spring

We should only be going there as missionaries. Not for any military actions. You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing things more than once expecting different results

Grampa Spring

Bush is Anakin, avenging his parents. Spice trade is oil.

Bran Stew

To the middle easterners in the US: a great policy would be a free slim Jim with the purchase of a large Icee. 🙏🏼

Kevin O’Malley

We were definitely the empire in OIF. And, in the least racist way possible, the “insurgency” was the sand people of Tatooine

Bran Stew

AGREED!

Wyatt Moser

Stop sending money to the Taliban

Derek Forsythe


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